[QUOTE=BigBlink15;2446836]I am telling you I seen her. She looks like her pictures and is hott![/QUOTE]Yeah, if that is so hott! You must have been stuck on the west side of Columbus in the middle of Ohio for way too long.
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[QUOTE=BigBlink15;2446836]I am telling you I seen her. She looks like her pictures and is hott![/QUOTE]Yeah, if that is so hott! You must have been stuck on the west side of Columbus in the middle of Ohio for way too long.
I paid a visit to a provider that advertised she was open minded. I found that she had a lot of things on her no list.
Things on her no list:
No CIM.
No COF.
No Anal.
To me, all those things are fair game for being open minded.
I was able to enjoy BBBJ, Russian, CG, doggy and mish.
What are your thoughts about what open minded means?
[QUOTE=MrMikeCols;2497874]I paid a visit to a provider that advertised she was open minded. I found that she had a lot of things on her no list.
Things on her no list:
No CIM.
No COF.
No Anal.
To me, all those things are fair game for being open minded.
I was able to enjoy BBBJ, Russian, CG, doggy and mish.
What are your thoughts about what open minded means?[/QUOTE]Terms like "open minded" and "fetish friendly" are just bullshit statements to pull hobbyists in. They know you're not supposed to ask specifics so when you read open minded and think cim what they are thinking is easy pickens or you read fetish friendly and think anal they think foot fetish.
[QUOTE=Minnanon;2502587]All this talk about pricing (me included).
Come on, I know one of you guys has the double-secret provider list.
You know, the one where all the girls:
1. Look like Sienna Miller in her prime.
2. Bang like Sasha Grey.
3. Cost less per hour than a dinner for two at Applebee's.
If you would just stop holding out, we could end all this nonsense.[/QUOTE]I decided to move this over since I wasn't adding anything to a BP review just my. 02.
I have a list of 6 at all times that fit this description, maybe not literally but it's not a secret list either, a friend list as far as I'm concerned. I would say they are semi-retired ladies that have remained in contact with me because I was always respectful, treated them nice or so they say. Not sure why but they don't want their number given out because I've asked, got the please don't response multiple times because I asked.
The donation requirements have dropped too since for the most part their drug habit is retired too, double bonus. Members here sometimes ask about some of them but they have no interest in getting back into the game full time I suspect, one goes to Columbus State and looks way better than before and charges a fraction of what she could get before.
Sometimes the phone rings out of the blue from an old friend I haven't seen in a long time, I have had a lot of luck in this department but not sure exactly why. I've also lucked into several UTR Ladies that fit the same description, all to be had for under a Benjamin, again not looking to be famous on the internet / no reviews please, don't give out my number etc. Another one I know took her ads down fast when she received 150 calls and 73 text messages in 12 hours after taking the plunge to place an ad, I call it luck as she told me only a few came through myself being one, she won't place another ad or so she says. To pay more than $ these days I'd the say you aren't spending enough FREE time on the hunt. There are literally thousands of girls in Columbus on any given day looking to play. I thought at one time I'the never say it but BP is over played IMHO. I'm not paying 300 or 200 or 150 for a so called hot chick to do me at a bed bug infested flea dive out east, neither should you but I don't care if you do. With the quantity of ladies available it's a buyers' market IMO $ tops for as long as you want GFE Greek being the exception is ALL you should be paying. If your new at this then I get it.
[QUOTE=Spinman;2502707] I'd the say you aren't spending enough FREE time on the hunt. There are literally thousands of girls in Columbus on any given day looking to play. I thought at one time I'the never say it but BP is over played IMHO. I'm not paying 300 or 200 or 150 for a so called hot chick to do me at a bed bug infested flea dive out east, neither should you but I don't care if you do. With the quantity of ladies available it's a buyers' market IMO $ tops for as long as you want GFE Greek being the exception is ALL you should be paying. If your new at this then I get it.[/QUOTE]I never was a fan of CL when it was the place, or BP in Columbus. Maybe because there are other venues, it seems most of the CMH BP girls are one half step from the stroll. Whereas in other cities I've seen a wider range of quality on BP.
I've been mostly seeing 3 regulars. Two are on the independent site, one semi-retired UTR. My rates are grandfathered and I also usually do multi-hours. So my per hour ends up at 150-250 depending on which girl and the session length.
I've been doing this since all of this discussion was on usenet, not a web site. But I also just started branching out from my 3 regulars, looking for new talent. I've had some success with the Sugar Daddy sites, but it's a fair amount of work, and I don't have tons of free time to spend. Suggestions on where else to look besides BP, the known hooker boards, and the SD sites would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Spinman;2502707]I decided to move this over since I wasn't adding anything to a BP review just my. 02.
I have a list of 6 at all times that fit this description, maybe not literally but it's not a secret list either, a friend list as far as I'm concerned. I would say they are semi-retired ladies that have remained in contact with me because I was always respectful, treated them nice or so they say. Not sure why but they don't want their number given out because I've asked, got the please don't response multiple times because I asked.
The donation requirements have dropped too since for the most part their drug habit is retired too, double bonus. Members here sometimes ask about some of them but they have no interest in getting back into the game full time I suspect, one goes to Columbus State and looks way better than before and charges a fraction of what she could get before.
Sometimes the phone rings out of the blue from an old friend I haven't seen in a long time, I have had a lot of luck in this department but not sure exactly why. I've also lucked into several UTR Ladies that fit the same description, all to be had for under a Benjamin, again not looking to be famous on the internet / no reviews please, don't give out my number etc. Another one I know took her ads down fast when she received 150 calls and 73 text messages in 12 hours after taking the plunge to place an ad, I call it luck as she told me only a few came through myself being one, she won't place another ad or so she says. To pay more than $ these days I'd the say you aren't spending enough FREE time on the hunt. There are literally thousands of girls in Columbus on any given day looking to play. I thought at one time I'the never say it but BP is over played IMHO. I'm not paying 300 or 200 or 150 for a so called hot chick to do me at a bed bug infested flea dive out east, neither should you but I don't care if you do. With the quantity of ladies available it's a buyers' market IMO $ tops for as long as you want GFE Greek being the exception is ALL you should be paying. If your new at this then I get it.[/QUOTE]Yea. Not sure what that guy was going on about with the Sienna Miller / Sasha Grey reference. That guy and Bustercapp are insinuating that price and service are related. So the more you pay the better the experience apparently. Experience, a completely subjective event. If that's the case why not pay $1000 at the moonlight bunny ranch for mommy bellies, fake nails and hair extensions?
Why not pay $1,000,000 like Tiger Woods allegedly did for the greatest orgasm of your life? LOL, That clown talked about laws of economics. If we pay McDonalds workers $15 an hour then we will get much better service.
No more cold coffee or fries. Ford vs Merc? Really? I thought service was the analogy? In that case they both get from point A to point B.
A Mustang or Shelby, Maybe reflashed Focus ST should be able to match the speed of your typical Merc at literally half the cost or less. Merc interiors are supremely overrated and tend to be at the lower scale in the class that they compete in. Overpriced, over-engineered German Garbage.
And whos to say that every guy has a problem with mommy bellies?
Maybe some guys like their women with big butts as opposed to just back, legs and some bolt ons?
Maybe some guys prefer a little sleaze, a little white trashy as opposed to extremely Photoshopped over the top "artsy" photography? Supply and demand? LOL get bent. The most abundant and oldest service on the planet that requires no real specialized skill all of a sudden has a service / price correlation? Because coke ****** are better than needle ******?
If I overpay for anything I'm annoyed, as I should be. So if I convince myself that only $300 ****** can give me the greatest experience ever then it must be true, otherwise it defies logic right?
[QUOTE=JCags100;2503271]Yea. Not sure what that guy was going on about with the Sienna Miller / Sasha Grey reference. [/QUOTE]It was a joke, poking fun at everyone (me included) arguing about pricing. And I'm not the person making car analogies. What I said was:
[QUOTE=Minnanon;2498195] But the tendency for me, in Columbus, has been for QOS to go up with price. Now there may not be causality. I tend to pick my higher end ladies from places where they have lots of reviews from reviewers who are known quantities. [/QUOTE]Notice the "for me", and that I'm admitting my sample of high end gals is not random.
I see a range of women. And if you go back a couple of years here, you'll find a bunch of reviews on BP girls. But I didn't have a ton of great experiences. But as long as we ARE making car comparisons, on BP, for every Focus ST I've found, I've test driven 8 or 10 Yugos.
And sure, a Yugo, or a Focus ST, or a 911 will get you to the grocery store. But sometimes you want to run the Dragon. And for me at least, rather than hunt through the classifieds trying to find a modded Focus ST amidst the sea of used econo boxes, I'd rather just go to Byers and grab a new GT3. That's me. But when I express my experience, somehow, it's not my subjective experience, it's that I'm butthurt because I overpaid. Got it.
A couple of closing rambles (well three).
1. I was not being flip when I asked Spinman for advice. I do see a couple of $ priced young ones when I just want a straightforward pop. I found them on SA, and that's more work than I want to put in. If there is a better venue, I am all ears. I am happy to pay less than $$$ an hour. I have not found a reliable source of new Mustangs to replace my 911s, or I would.
2. If price is all that matters (or at least the biggest factor) and it's "the most abundant and oldest service on the planet that requires no real specialized skill" why are we even discussing which girls are worth seeing at $. Pick one at random. Hell, why aren't we all just doing fat chicks for free. Because even my ugly middle-aged ass can score 3 of those a week.
3. For the record, before someone accuses me of being a lover of Overpriced, over-engineered German Garbage, my daily driver is a 2011 Imprezza (stock). My fun rides are currently a tweaked 08 Forester XT I bought used from a buddy that rallies, and a beater 2002 pickup, depending on what kind of fun the weekend has in store.
[QUOTE=Josh88;2447104]I have no doubt that her photos are real. It's the "hott!" part that may come into question, especially since you added "she is not ugly". There is a big gap between seeing a girl and saying to yourself "she is hott!" or saying to yourself " she is not ugly". IMO, she is not hot. Regardless, the amount of business she does is going to depend on her performance. What can you tell us about her performance? DFK, DATY, BBBJCIM, etc. ?
[URL]http://columbus.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/brand-new-veronica-ultimate-playmate/22139175[/URL][/QUOTE]I guess it's a matter of opinion but I agree with Josh, she's NOT hott.
I took the joke for what is was, really just referring to the secret list that I think most veteran members have if they were honest then threw in my. 02 about current trends / recent topics about BP and pricing etc.
I don't give a shit what type of girls anyone prefers or how much they pay that's your biz and the statement made about BP from another member here was: BP is nothing more than a bunch of SW's with internet access. That's the most accurate statement said about BP in a long time IMHO, I liked that short and sweet.
Over the years I have on plenty occasions paid what I thought was too much and didn't find price improved performance with two exceptions.
One is Maras that was beyond a P.S. Experience. I mean the chick gets out this duffle bag full of toys and I had one in every hole at one point and she was going crazy, it was a long session but for $$. 5 it was WAY worth it. I never went back, just can't top that, now she's asking $$ $. I don't know if it was just a freaky day for her or what but DAMN top five wildest sessions I'll ever have in 7 lifetimes.
The other isn't running an ad but sometimes she's on EROS can't remember her name but not currently posting and asks $$ $, she was at a very upscale Cols location, a mature lady but it was a one of a kind experience / worth it but never repeated with her either. If she ever posts an ad again I'll put it up in the Escort section.
If I'm traveling I'll pay more to eliminate the chase so I go with a sure thing price doesn't matter to me then, it has kept frustration to a minimum IMHO, but if I think I can find a bargain on a sure thing even when traveling that's the way I'll go.
Paying a higher donation does NOT GAURENTEE better PERFORMANCE or service now or in the past, that's a fact not an opinion, almost thirty years' experience and it doesn't work like that and it never will. The best experiences I've had were typically under $. 5 but most less than that. You're not driving up my prices either I don't think like that, we're good, pay what you want. I think what everyone gets confused with on this topic is mixing that they deliver an experience more consistently across the board maybe or with less drama, it might be an easier search with less RISK but fuck better suck better or are a better ACTRESS, deliver the WOW factor more than the others? NO sorry not the case. Get a high end hooker on a bad day for her the results are exactly the same, you're not having fun.
At the end of the day they want one thing MONEY and we want PUSSY don't get twisted. Why guys get caught up in love and shit is something I'll never understand. You're a number / trick / date / client, just another ugly fucker with a cock that wants to fuck. They want your money, they aren't fucking you for free and stop thinking this is something it's not, this isn't eHarmony.
I don't know of a secret board that's out there but as far as the indy site I think Minnanon is referring to IMHO is a BAD place to visit or shop for talent, I always said meet and greets were a BAD idea. I find it funny guys still think everything is fine there, to each his own, end of story there.
SB SD seems like it might work but never tried. FB I think is the future with tumbler showing promise but I'm just guessing. Something will fill the void from an advertisement standpoint, the demand will never go down and the supply continues to grow more and more every day. More women are thinking a little cock for a little money isn't a bad thing, after all they've been giving it up for free to ass holes for a long time this is better. It has shocked me how many professional women I have met for a reasonable price that don't mind excepting a little cash for freak time, public opinion seems to be shifting at least among the professional women segment.
I don't have advice because I have found some friends in the weirdest places, two being in the help wanted section of CL, WTF. How does a girl think placing an ad in the help wanted section is going to bring them clients? I have found looking in odd places using the search function with certain key words of any site you might normally look, brings results. Both of the ladies I found there were the real deals, just rookies I guess or trying to fly UTR perhaps. One I still see form time to time. I banged her on her desk at her office recently, she doesn't post ads anymore but has bills, is a freak, I think she does it for the thrill factor, I don't care but she's not acting, again I got lucky. So I have gone outside the box, it works but it's not easy the rewards are better, much cheaper but not easy.
[QUOTE=Jared77;2503755]I guess it's a matter of opinion but I agree with Josh, she's NOT hott.[/QUOTE]LOL I seen her for myself. I been bamboozled. Got that large Irish wolf hound that needs a bath. Her twat was nice and snug. But her face has acne covered with makeup. Nice breast. But funny built. She does have a stomach that she covers. I couldn't repeat if I wanted too. Lives too far and not worth the drive. Hmmmm lucky charm. LOL.
[QUOTE=Spinman;2503835]I took the joke for what is was, really just referring to the secret list that I think most veteran members have if they were honest then threw in my. 02 about current trends / recent topics about BP and pricing etc.
I don't know of a secret board that's out there but as far as the indy site I think Minnanon is referring to IMHO is a BAD place to visit or shop for talent, I always said meet and greets were a BAD idea. I find it funny guys still think everything is fine there, to each his own, end of story there.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, since I myself wasn't clear on this point. I'm not a member there. I was, but have not been for a long, long time. But I did meet 2 of my three regulars there. One solely advertises there. The other in multiple places, but most of her business is there. When I was active there, the most reliable (but not only way) to find an experience like yours with Maras was that site. I don't know how things are there now, but have noticed the other places those types of girls advertise, Eros, e**ie, and P411 are all struggling in Columbus, and those two girls get most of their business from the indy site. But I had some trust issues there and ejected even before the Cleveland debacle started.
And you are correct, there are no guarantees. I had a terrible experience with a high end girl in Montreal this year. Stellar reviews on MERB. Recommended by a couple other girls I've seen up there. The only worse sessions I've had have been with BP crack hoes.
I hobby less frequently than some, but about 50% of my experiences are like yours with Maras, by design. This year, for my Christmas present to myself, I convinced my UTR to join me in a session with one of the indy gals. Ended round one DPing the UTR, the indy girl up front with a strap-on, me in the rear. Round two the indy girl bbbjtccimnqns and then some, while my UTR gave me an Asian session that was pretty close to a colonoscopy, LOL. I haven't tried everything I've seen on Extremetube, but if I've wanted to try it, I have.
I've been working the nooks and crannies a bit too. When CL was like BP now, I found a quality girl that wanted to find a regular or two, and stop advertising. Ended up as sort of an SB for a couple years. She really was in college, graduated and left. I did a tongue-in-cheek ad for her replacement on CL, and my current UTR answered it, first response. I've since run the same type of ad many times in the last five years with no luck at all.
I wouldn't even know how to get started with FB. I avoid that place like the plague. If it's the future, I'm in trouble.
[QUOTE=Josh88;2440395]I was cruising the other review site and noticed a recent review of Sidny, aka Kelly from back in the agency days when she was a madam. It's been over 10 years since I saw her and at the time I thought she was decent looking, close to a 7 but not quite, and not near that today. I looked over the list of Sidny's reviews and saw someone had given her an 8, so I checked out his previous reviews to see if he usually over rates the girls appearance. I saw that he gave lots of 9 & 10 ratings and pays some very high prices. He rated this girl Vivian a 10, as did many other reviewers, but what amazes me is that he thinks Sidny is only 2 points below Vivian. I would say there is a chasm between the two. See for yourself. BTW, he paid 120 for Sidny & 1,000 for Vivian.
[URL]http://columbus.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/kiss-me-baby-blonde-sidny-andlt3-your-temporary-girlfriend/20740902[/URL]
[URL]http://www.viviannovak.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Ouch. That kinda hurt.
[QUOTE=GhostRider50;2515056]Paid 1. 5 for for outcall a few years ago in 161 area, and the girl just wanted to dance. Paid 2. 5 to an escort in a Dallas hotel, again years ago, and she then proclaimed she didn't do FS. Had a couple of SW get funky after I gave them their $, therefore, once I got over the fear of them getting pissed that I wasn't giving them the money up front I haven't been jacked since. They don't get the cash until the clothes come off and the condom is laid on the bed. They can see it, but they ain't touching it. Especially first timers. Same with car dates, once you let them know you will drop them off if they persist on the up front they always give in.
Sorry this happened to you, but once all mongers let them know through their actions, that we ain't doing up front, hopefully word will get around.[/QUOTE]2. 5 ? LOL. I thought paying those high prices was suppose to be some sort of guarantee to better service from providers? At least according to the market genius here who only drives a Mercedes.
[QUOTE=JCags100;2515327]2. 5 ? LOL. I thought paying those high prices was suppose to be some sort of guarantee to better service from providers? At least according to the market genius here who only drives a Mercedes.[/QUOTE]In my experience, every girl I spent from 300-500 for, except one, was GFE in performance with only a few of them a little below expectations in the looks category. There is definitely real quality out there if you want to pay for it. Mostly in other cities. I have been taken in by the dance only / no touching outcall girl too. Anyone of us can get scammed if we don't do our research or we venture into unreviewed territory. For the most part, Mercedes Guy is right.
[QUOTE=JCags100;2515327]2. 5 ? LOL. I thought paying those high prices was suppose to be some sort of guarantee to better service from providers? At least according to the market genius here who only drives a Mercedes.[/QUOTE]LOL, that is so funny. Proves us smart guys so right. Doesn't matter how much they are charging for the pussy, if they are a rip off artist, that's just what they do, low or high price hoes. And mercedes guy is DEAD wrong, not right AT ALL!