Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Jayb20;2973107]So I went to go see Mimi yesterday at an apartment in the Towers in Fairfax where there are a lot of apartment girls in my experience. I had no where near the experience of Trewaller, but I'd love the forum to weigh in on this. I will post this to the Massage Reports to get Roamin's views too.

Nikki is my regular and but I think she's away for the holiday and thought I'd take a shot at Mimi. Tre is right, the girl is not the one in the picture but actually better looking! She was definitely anywhere from a 7-9, spinner, and looked like large Bs or Small C cups. She's eager on my first text about an hour before hand, about 15 min before, I get a "where are you now" text. I get there, and there's a sherriffs car upfront. I text her this, tell her what's up and she says, "those Indians are always getting into trouble" gives me the code. I'm already off my game and I forgot to take my ring off (no judgments here I hope). I also usually keep an extra $40 in case things get really heavy and I forgot that too. I get there, and there's someone else in the other room. She asks for the $120 upfront (something Nikki never does, even on my first visit). I get undressed, things are going OK. She actually took direction for heavier pressure after a couple of times alright (I don't think she spoke english that well). I had this uneasy feeling that doors, including my bedroom were opening and closing and had to look up a couple of times. Her phone went off a couple of times, but maybe it was a timer since she moved to another section.

Towards the end she does my face and says ok thank you. I had expected a little back and forth like Tre mentioned. Nothing. She actually said, $120 for the massage, and actually used the words "handjob for another tip". So it was clear she was pretty sure I wasn't LEO.

Things just don't add up. Next time, if anything is off, or get bad vibes right from the beginning, I'm going to bail.

For the forum:

1) Do you wear your ring and if so do you think it prevents girls from going further or make them ask for a bigger tip?

2) Do you guys think that she thought I was LEO?

3) If after the first rebuff and you get the question for another tip, do you put more in: I mean I'm already $120 in the hole, why not an extra $40 for what I actually came for?

[/QUOTE]I have been to this apartment complex and have seen uncle LEO's car parked out in front of one of the towers on a few of the occasions I have been there. I don't know what's going on there. There is quite a few Indians that live there but I never thought of them to be the type to cause a disturbance and have uncle LEO there more often than not.

To answer your other inquiries:

I take my wedding ring off. I hide it in my car. I never hide it on my person in case I need to rush out of there and accidently drop it inside the place.

I doubt if she thought you were uncle LEO since she told you extras were available.

I use to see a Thai provider there named Lily, about 3 years ago. I gave her an extra 20, on top of the 120 door fee as she was really nice. She also liked to play a little as I was showering. She was really skinny, older Thai, with really big nips. She would bring me to the edge for a good half hour or so. I recently saw one of the newer Thai providers at the Towers. Her name is Amy. She works with Sharon. No shower offered. The 120 fee got me just the massage, she wanted extra for anything else. That's a bit steep, considering they will try to rush you to finish (which amy did). I would rather spend the almost $200 I'm going to shell out, on a real provider and get at least a good 45 minutes of my money's worth of fun. For the 120 fee, you are paying for a massage with a really good looking provider. To me, that's not enough to warrant anymore visits with these Thais after my disappointment with Amy. I could spend 170/180 and drive 45 minutes north to MD and have a good 1 hour decent massage / FS session.

I've recently started my new hobby and have ventured onto a few AMPs as well as some of the BP site over the last 2 week.

While the AMP scene has provided me a 100% HE return on investment, I'm just learning the jargon that comes along with the game.

I had no idea that a shower was an invitation to basically weed out any suspicions and see how far you are willing to go.

I actually turned down my first 2 TS because I had just taken a shower prior to my appt. But now I'm hip to it. I've been to FW in Alexandria, a couple near Fairfax Circle and one in Burke. They all seemed like older spinners with a gut but I still left with a smile on my face.

I also went to visit Mimi at the Towers, I received the same treatment with the texts right before appt and asked for a soft knock on the door. Once I get in, pay my dues and I'm immediately asked to shower. The massage is weak and no roaming so I'm thinking this isn't going to end well. But on the flip she massages my face and then says what do you want? CBJ $4 or FS $1. Naturally after I see her amazing body which like the other reviewers said her body was a 9/10. She takes a quick shower. We do all, except no greek and after about 10 minutes she says your time is running out. That shocked the hell out of me so I asked her to turn around while I finished. Not much convo during the entire appt but it was my first experience with BP so can't complain.

[QUOTE=Jayb20;2973107]So I went to go see Mimi yesterday at an apartment in the Towers in Fairfax where there are a lot of apartment girls in my experience. I had no where near the experience of Trewaller, but I'd love the forum to weigh in on this. I will post this to the Massage Reports to get Roamin's views too.

Nikki is my regular and but I think she's away for the holiday and thought I'd take a shot at Mimi. Tre is right, the girl is not the one in the picture but actually better looking! She was definitely anywhere from a 7-9, spinner, and looked like large Bs or Small C cups. She's eager on my first text about an hour before hand, about 15 min before, I get a "where are you now" text. I get there, and there's a sherriffs car upfront. I text her this, tell her what's up and she says, "those Indians are always getting into trouble" gives me the code. I'm already off my game and I forgot to take my ring off (no judgments here I hope). I also usually keep an extra $40 in case things get really heavy and I forgot that too. I get there, and there's someone else in the other room. She asks for the $120 upfront (something Nikki never does, even on my first visit). I get undressed, things are going OK. She actually took direction for heavier pressure after a couple of times alright (I don't think she spoke english that well). I had this uneasy feeling that doors, including my bedroom were opening and closing and had to look up a couple of times. Her phone went off a couple of times, but maybe it was a timer since she moved to another section.

Towards the end she does my face and says ok thank you. I had expected a little back and forth like Tre mentioned. Nothing. She actually said, $120 for the massage, and actually used the words "handjob for another tip". So it was clear she was pretty sure I wasn't LEO.

Things just don't add up. Next time, if anything is off, or get bad vibes right from the beginning, I'm going to bail.

For the forum:

1) Do you wear your ring and if so do you think it prevents girls from going further or make them ask for a bigger tip?

2) Do you guys think that she thought I was LEO?

3) If after the first rebuff and you get the question for another tip, do you put more in: I mean I'm already $120 in the hole, why not an extra $40 for what I actually came for?

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[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/relaxing-massage-and-body-rub-by-thai-mimi/23575992[/URL][/QUOTE]These ladies who expect $120 just for a massage and $40 more for HE, will soon run out of clients, IMHO. We need to start explaining the facts of life here in NOVA to them. If the session is really good, I don't mind throwing another $20 their way. But that is after the session, at my discretion.

I've also started leaving my ring in the car or replacing it with another style ring, but I don't think it really matters to most of them.

The first time I saw the FFX Co. Squad car parked outside the apartment building I was really spooked by it. So I called Nikki and she assured me it was safe to come in. I decided to proceed with my appointment because I trust her.

Once inside, Nikki told me the officer parks the car there all the time because he lives there. She added that it is parked there a lot because he works nights. So while it can still be disconcerting to see the car practically every time I go see her, I have become accustomed to it.

NOTE: I am not telling anyone to ever be complacent about the potential for a run-in with LE! But that is how it was explained to me, and I have never had a problem.

With that being said, be careful out there.

Derringer.

[QUOTE=Serpico99;2973734]I have been to this apartment complex and have seen uncle LEO's car parked out in front of one of the towers on a few of the occasions I have been there. I don't know what's going on there. There is quite a few Indians that live there but I never thought of them to be the type to cause a disturbance and have uncle LEO there more often than not.

To answer your other inquiries:

I take my wedding ring off. I hide it in my car. I never hide it on my person in case I need to rush out of there and accidently drop it inside the place.

I doubt if she thought you were uncle LEO since she told you extras were available.

I use to see a Thai provider there named Lily, about 3 years ago. I gave her an extra 20, on top of the 120 door fee as she was really nice. She also liked to play a little as I was showering. She was really skinny, older Thai, with really big nips. She would bring me to the edge for a good half hour or so. I recently saw one of the newer Thai providers at the Towers. Her name is Amy. She works with Sharon. No shower offered. The 120 fee got me just the massage, she wanted extra for anything else. That's a bit steep, considering they will try to rush you to finish (which amy did). I would rather spend the almost $200 I'm going to shell out, on a real provider and get at least a good 45 minutes of my money's worth of fun. For the 120 fee, you are paying for a massage with a really good looking provider. To me, that's not enough to warrant anymore visits with these Thais after my disappointment with Amy. I could spend 170/180 and drive 45 minutes north to MD and have a good 1 hour decent massage / FS session.[/QUOTE]

Will be visiting Alexandria in a few months and wanted to start doing some research.

Enjoy a quality massage and not looking for FS BUT do enjoy sensual and HE.

Please let me know where to start looking or good places to visit.

[QUOTE=Derringer;2976225]The first time I saw the FFX Co. Squad car parked outside the apartment building I was really spooked by it. So I called Nikki and she assured me it was safe to come in. I decided to proceed with my appointment because I trust her.

Once inside, Nikki told me the officer parks the car there all the time because he lives there. She added that it is parked there a lot because he works nights. So while it can still be disconcerting to see the car practically every time I go see her, I have become accustomed to it.

NOTE: I am not telling anyone to ever be complacent about the potential for a run-in with LE! But that is how it was explained to me, and I have never had a problem.

With that being said, be careful out there.

Derringer.[/QUOTE]I have seen that car nearly every time I have seen Nikki in the past year and a half. When it was still there after my visit, I figured the officer either lived there or was on a domestic call. She gave me the same explanation after I asked on my second visit. I was leery the first time but also now accustomed to seeing it.

[QUOTE=RubLover803;2976416]Will be visiting Alexandria in a few months and wanted to start doing some research.

Enjoy a quality massage and not looking for FS BUT do enjoy sensual and HE.

Please let me know where to start looking or good places to visit.[/QUOTE]There are several in that area. Many are reviewed in this forum. It all depends on your location and you mode of transportation. You should leave satisfied in any of them.

[QUOTE=Derringer;2976225]The first time I saw the FFX Co. Squad car parked outside the apartment building I was really spooked by it. So I called Nikki and she assured me it was safe to come in. I decided to proceed with my appointment because I trust her.

Once inside, Nikki told me the officer parks the car there all the time because he lives there. She added that it is parked there a lot because he works nights. So while it can still be disconcerting to see the car practically every time I go see her, I have become accustomed to it.

NOTE: I am not telling anyone to ever be complacent about the potential for a run-in with LE! But that is how it was explained to me, and I have never had a problem.

With that being said, be careful out there.

Derringer.[/QUOTE]It's disconcerting when he lives near a provider, but it's a great thing when the cop lives near you and his car is close enough to deter any crap at your place.

Tonight I went by the Chinese operation at 5509 Wilson Blvd that often advertises itself on BP and CL as being "7 minutes from DC". Cost is .7/hour or $/90 minutes.

They are located on a very busy street, but there is some discrete parking behind the building. It's very clean inside, nice rooms, comfortable table, clean linens, but they just have a sheet hanging on the door, so not all that private. And they only offer a stand up, unassisted shower because it is Arlington.

Lisa (early 30's) greeted me at the front door and was my massage therapist. She is very attractive with a big, beautiful smile, pretty eyes, a sexy body, and great attitude. She has really strong, but soft hands. She gives a very satisfying, unrushed, deep tissue, oil massage.

Lisa has a winning personality, very good English skills, so we had a nice conversation and no communication issues. Overall, she's an experienced, fun girl. However, with just the curtain on the door there was not too much going on beyond a standard NOVA. But I was allowed a little UTC roaming up top and OTC down below. I didn't get the feeling much more than that was available, even with additional visits. But YMMV.

If you go there, Lisa is a great choice. The other lady working tonight was new, so Lisa had to leave once to answer a question for her. But otherwise, it was an above average time. Not a whole lot of teasing before the flip, but just enough to make me happy. And she gave me the full hour with some edging leading up to a good finish. Once I explained what I like she was eager to please. She seemed happy with a slightly above average tip.

While you will not be blown away by the extras there, if you want a sweet, sexy, very pretty Chinese lady to massage your tired muscles and leave with a smile on your face, I recommend and would definitely repeat.

Here's their ad:

[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/four-hands-massage-free-shower-best-choice/23220601[/URL]

Arlington Location.

5509 Wilson Blvd, Arlington, VA 22205.

703-992-5920.

Open 7 days 10:00 am-10:00 pm.

We offer Shiatsu, Swedish, Deep Tissue, Foot Reflexology, Thai, Qi Gong Tui Na, Sport Massage, Acupuncture, Hot Stone Therapy & free Shower.

Help your body and mind relax while improving your overall health! Calms the mind. Loosen tight muscles. Relieve stress and ease tension.

Clean & Private Rooms with Soothing Music!

You will always leave with a smile!

Give us a call and get ready to RELAX.

Location: Arlington, nearby DC, only 7 minutes from District Of Columbia.

Be safe out there.

Derringer.

[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2975594]These ladies who expect $120 just for a massage and $40 more for HE, will soon run out of clients, IMHO. We need to start explaining the facts of life here in NOVA to them. If the session is really good, I don't mind throwing another $20 their way. But that is after the session, at my discretion.

I've also started leaving my ring in the car or replacing it with another style ring, but I don't think it really matters to most of them.[/QUOTE]I'm confused about this discussion of wedding rings. Are you thinking these women have moral issues around marriage? Don't they assume that the majority of their clients are married? I never take my ring off--not sure it would come off--and it has never impaired my negotiating position, so far as I know. (with a professional, anyway).

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;2976593]It's disconcerting when he lives near a provider, but it's a great thing when the cop lives near you and his car is close enough to deter any crap at your place.[/QUOTE]Dude,

I was working in florida last summer and I set up a meeting with a known and reviewed provider, but it was my first time with her. She lived in a gated apartment community where I needed a security code to get in. She lived in the back section of this place and it was not a clear path to get to her house, so of course I got lost. I turned a corner and there were 5 county sheriffs vehicles sitting there. One was standing outside of his car holding a radio and talking and the other 4 vehicles had cops sitting inside with the engine running. My fucking heart stopped. I Calmly as I could kept driving around and left. I drove and turned as many corners as I could and got to another part of town. I litereally was planning on tossing my burner phone and quitting the hobby! I was f'and scared straight.

The provider called me and asked me what happened. I told her to look out her window. She seemed spooked too. Later that evening she called me and told me they had a drug warrant for an apartment in her complex and it had nothing to do with her. Like an idiot I believed her and told her on the phone that I would love to do coffee and not do a session. I made it clear that I would like to do coffee and make it like a date and not a session. So, I went back and the cops were gone. I walked in and she pounced all over me and made up for the horrible scare from earlier. She actually turned out to be a squirter and I had the session of my recent life.

So, I know the feeling of seeing that patrol car or cars!

Another positive vote for Franconia Wellness. I went on a weekday at lunchtime and had a lovely experience with June. Total was $ . 6 to the house and $ . 4 to my therapist.

I'd never been there before but thanks to other members in this thread I knew to ring the buzzer and follow the mamasan; ask for a half hour and tell her "of course" when she asked if I'd been there before; strip as soon as mamasan left; and let my hands start roaming as soon as June got within reach!

She teased me a bit by pretending not to want to be touched ("no thank you! Then laughing when I looked up incredulously. The massage wasn't great. She did a lot of "light touching" when I could've honestly used some deep-tissue. And I didn't get offered a table shower. But I did get a good 10-15 minutes of some nice roaming on June's tight Asian body (including having her slip out of her top so I could play with the girls) and the standard NoVA finish.

Afterward she dressed me. Which was new and a nice surprise. And brought me water and held my hand while she walked me out. I very nearly dropped another Jackson but decided not to overtip this time.

All in all a fantastic experience and I'm glad to finally have been past this place! Thanks to all who recommended it and please if you go treat the ladies right.

Alas, the calendar changed from June to July, and no more Mae.

Usually my dreams are very good here, but my last one was interrupted by the unfortunate negotiations. I saw a buxom girl that was quite attractive, and told me her name was Jennifer, though when I asked mama who I would be seeing, she told me "she will tell you. " So conjecture tells me her name changes from time to time.

Table shower was acceptable, but less than enthusiastic. On to the massage which seemed promising, but then I was awakened from my dream with the how much question. Much back and forth, and I almost left in the middle of the session. Finally I returned to the dream, which ended with me releasing my stress, but overall was less than the usual relaxing.

Most of my experiences have been positive here, but my policy is to take some time off after a disappointing one. Other places to visit. I vote with my wallet.

I tend to check the reports before I go to my favorite place, but skipped it this time and it bit me in the ass. The first thing I noticed is the Mama has changed which didn't alarm me at the time. From time to time people fill-in for a day or two. My therapist was a tan, athletic build. About 5'7" with dark hair with old orange highlights. Her ladies were store bought C's / D's that had the nice pointy shape. TS was decent, but definitely a little quicker than I am used to. Massage was horrible. She must have walked all over my body for 20 minutes. Actually painful, especially when walking on my lower legs. Very little hand massage (probably about 5 minutes). She then moved to the nail dragging which must have lasted 15 minutes on back and front. On the flip the bargaining started and was quite annoying. She actually wanted a Paul Frank for Standard NOVA finish and some DATY. I told her she was killing the mood. These words actually came out of her mouth. "This is so like you Americans!" Wtf?! I told her I was a veteran and knew what I should be offering. Almost ready to walk, but we finally came to a decision. She did pull the old annoying "No, they are sensitive you can't nurse. " Mama didn't ask how it went which was always asked with old Mama. Again this could be a fill-in, but not sure. I am staying away til some better reports come in. I sure miss the days of Scarlett and Sky.

Lovejugs.

I took a chance and toftt. I stopped in at Ashley Wellness on Main St in Fairfax. Beautiful woman was at the desk and she was the only one working I believe. They advertise on BP so figured there was a chance it could be good. Totally legit and no hint of anything. She made sure I was covered at all times and never accepted my offer to remove the towel. Massage was ok, but nothing special. No reason to make a return visit. She said I was first customer that day at around 2 pm. I doubt they will be around long.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-picturescool-naturals-1ooff-grand-opening_come-to-my-place/23102062[/URL]

[QUOTE=HarleyDude29;2979658]I took a chance and toftt. I stopped in at Ashley Wellness on Main St in Fairfax. Beautiful woman was at the desk and she was the only one working I believe. They advertise on BP so figured there was a chance it could be good. Totally legit and no hint of anything. She made sure I was covered at all times and never accepted my offer to remove the towel. Massage was ok, but nothing special. No reason to make a return visit. She said I was first customer that day at around 2 pm. I doubt they will be around long.

[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/real-picturescool-naturals-1ooff-grand-opening_come-to-my-place/23102062[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds exactly like the place in West Springfield behind the Giant. They put pictures up that make you think one thing, but when you get there within five minutes you know it's legit. Lame!

First report, so welcome feedbac.

Finally had a chance to have a dream. Weekday, early evening. Dreamed I was at NS in Hrndn. Place is indiscreetly discreet. No sign out front, nothing on the inner door. Rang the bell and MMS opened quickly. She appeared Korean in her late 40's or so. She asked how long and had I been here before. I was told her no, but I was looking for an hour of relaxing. She took me to the room on the end. Room had its own door, clean linens, overall tidy look. Towel warmer and oil warmer on a table. About 2 minutes later, in comes a Chinese spinner named Jenny. (said she was 32) Face average, oranges up top, but she had a good attitude. Passable English, but not great. She wanted the house. 8 right away and asked if I wanted the included table shower. She gave me a towel and disappeared to pay MMS. TS was decent, enthusiastic, but I don't have a lot of experience with them. Yet. And she spent enough time on main street to let me know that as least a NOVA finish was available. She also asked if it was my first time there, but AFTER she had already taken matters into her own hands.

After the TS, I dreamed I was receiving and average medium massage with very light oil. She was conversant and responsive to my directions, and gave an ok back walk. More time on main street than I expected while I was still face down. She felt it necessary to inform me that "no fuck here". I was lightly roaming which she didn't object or pull away from. Damn fine back cushions. They were firm and both fit in one hand. Then the flip and right to business. Despite her face being an inch away from the business, she told me "no BJ here either" and how much was I going to tip. I stated the standard NOVA price and she laughed and said "Minimum 60. When I get massage I give 60 tip. " I damn near said I want the provider you give a 60 tip to. " but I have more self-control in my dreams. Since TS was included and my roaming was unrestricted I agreed to 60. She managed to edge me until the hour was complete with a standard oiled (not bad) nova finish. Clean up was with dry towel and I was ushered out the back door.

Good: TS was soap and hands, and there was a lot of handiwork.

Face down was at times relaxing, at times therapeutic, sometimes almost affectionate.

She was pleasant, talkative and responsive.

Very good location for me.

Bad: . 6 for OTC roaming only seems over the average. If I dream again, I will see if that translates into top off or UTC.

She wore some kind of glittery makeup. I didn't notice it until I woke up and looked in the mirror. I probably should have taken a shower there, but I didn't see it at the time. If having glitter on your cheek or collar is an issue for you, avoid Jenny or take a shower before you leave.

Would I want to have this dream again? Probably. Would like to dream of a different provider though.

Huntzman.

Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Finding this place was easy using my phone GPS.

I followed previous advice and parked around back, there was plenty spaces open to park but enough occupied to prevent you from standing out. I arrived shortly after they opened. No call, just walk-in.

Aware of my build, appearance, and mannerism, I knew I could be treated like LEO. Again, I simply followed previous advice and was super nice to the mama, and told her this was not my first visit but it had been a while.

I donated $. 8 to the house for an hr, only because this was actually my first visit and I'm not too familiar with NOVA. Once mama left, in came a petite, late 30's. Early 40's spinner. Not much going on up top or in the back but having visited AMPs before I know the appearance could of been much worst. I would give this masseuse a 6. 5 - 7. She said her name was Kim.

When Kim entered the room, I was in my birthday suit, again, to dismiss any idea I was LEO. She offered a TS and I accepted.

From there, I received a royal wipe down for about 5-7 minutes which was good treatment.

We went back to the room and the massage started off mediocre but turned out to be not bad at all. The flip into the HE was quick and good. Most importantly the massage continued afterwards for about 5 more minutes.

The king treatment continued as Kim helped me dress. Literally helped me dress. There was mo mention of $ on her part. I started thinking there was no tip or I didn't need to. I remembered everyone said $. 4 is the NOVA standard so that's what I gave.

On my way out, mama asked me if it was good. And she asked as if I were to say no, she would of fixed it.

All in all, I gave $1. 2 . Is that normal? Or too much? Remember I was overly concerned they would of suspected I was uncle LEO, plus this was my 1st AMP hobby experience in NOVA or the east coast for that matter.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any questions on FW, PM.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.

Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Finding this place was easy using my phone GPS.

I followed previous advice and parked around back, there was plenty spaces open to park but enough occupied to prevent you from standing out. I arrived shortly after they opened. No call, just walk-in.

Aware of my build, appearance, and mannerism, I knew I could be treated like LEO. Again, I simply followed previous advice and was super nice to the mama, and told her this was not my first visit but it had been a while.

I donated $. 8 to the house for an hr, only because this was actually my first visit and I'm not too familiar with NOVA. Once mama left, in came a petite, late 30's. Early 40's spinner. Not much going on up top or in the back but having visited AMPs before I know the appearance could of been much worst. I would give this masseuse a 6. 5 - 7. She said her name was Kim.

When Kim entered the room, I was in my birthday suit, again, to dismiss any idea I was LEO. She offered a TS and I accepted.

From there, I received a royal wipe down for about 5-7 minutes which was good treatment.

We went back to the room and the massage started off mediocre but turned out to be not bad at all. The flip into the HE was quick and good. Most importantly the massage continued afterwards for about 5 more minutes.

The king treatment continued as Kim helped me dress. Literally helped me dress. There was mo mention of $ on her part. I started thinking there was no tip or I didn't need to. I remembered everyone said $. 4 is the NOVA standard so that's what I gave.

On my way out, mama asked me if it was good. And she asked as if I were to say no, she would of fixed it.

All in all, I gave $1. 2 . Is that normal? Or too much? Remember I was overly concerned they would of suspected I was uncle LEO, plus this was my 1st AMP hobby experience in NOVA or the east coast for that matter.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any questions on FW, PM.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.

[QUOTE=HuntzMan;2979947]She felt it necessary to inform me that "no fuck here". . . Then the flip and right to business. Despite her face being an inch away from the business, she told me "no BJ here either" and how much was I going to tip. I stated the standard NOVA price and she laughed and said "[b][I]Minimum 60. When I get massage I give 60 tip.[/I][/b]"[/QUOTE]Hey, HuntzMan! IIRC, this is among your first AMP experiences here in the USA, even though you've mongered out of country and posted extensively in the ISG, right? If so, then there are a couple lessons available here. She felt it *necessary* to inform you that "[I]no fuck here[/I]" and, a bit later, "[I]no BJ here either[/I]. ".

What she has just done is put bounds on the services you can expect. Okay, that's fair, as far as that goes (although it's interesting, because those two statements indicate that she's aware of some places offering those services. . . Or that she has offered them at other AMPs where she's worked.) In my mind, I would then calculate that she had just informed me that her tip would be less than 100 and, then, less than 80 (assuming BBBJ) or 70 (assuming CBJ).

Now, when she asked how much you were going to tip, your reply should [U]not[/U] have been to quote the Standard NOVA price (40). Instead, you should have replied, "[I]That depends on the service[/I]. " Let her make the opening offer. Put the ball back into her court. It will tend to throw her off her negotiating game. Remember, she only gets a small amount (if any) of the house fee, so she's really working for the tip. That's your trump card.

If she continues to be evasive, just tell her to keep doing whatever she normally does for a massage. If she says, "[I]Finished[/I]" or something similar, start to get up from the table and begin to get dressed. Leave a 10 (or 20, max) tip and thank her for a "[I]nice massage[/I]. " Usually, before things get to this point, she'll have accepted your offer of 40, [U]which should include her top up or off[/U].

The fact that she laughed at your offer of 40, and said "[I][u]minimum[/u] 60[/I]" marks her as a provider who knows the game but wants to get maximum tip for the least amount of service. Besides, it's a presumptuous attitude to say something like that. My reply back would probably have been, "[I]I don't pay 60 for HJ.[/I]" Of course, if things have gotten to this point, my enthusiasm has already soured and the mood has been more or less ruined. At that point, I realize it'll be better to walk, since any HJ she's likely to give you will be terse and un-sensual.

[B]You [u]must[/u] be willing and ready to walk.[/B]

Following the above procedure ensures that we don't see a continual escalation of prices, accompanied by a continual diminution of services. And, it will save you some of your hard-earned dollars, too. Think about it: If you ever return to that AMP, how likely is it that any of the other girls there will accept 40 for a Standard NOVA finish?

There are more than enough AMPs to fill the demands of this area. The MMS has a good deal invested in her AMP, and she'd prefer satisfied return customers. If her girls are causing customers not to return, she'll eventually figure out which girls are causing it and try to adjust the attitude of those girls. MMS knows that you have other options.

[B]Roman[/B]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.

[QUOTE=TheBarbarian;2982437]Today I daydreamed of going to F Wellness.

Any advice, Please PM, I'm all ears.

Any recommendations for my future adventures, PM me.

Thanks,

TheBarbarian.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the Forum, Conan. Very nice inaugural post, and you managed to avoid the newbie mistake of asking for info in your first post. Keep on this track, and you'll be well on your way to building up a fair amount of "board cred" quickly and, not too many months from now, earning Senior status.

I'll send you a PM shortly, with a few tips for mongering in the NoVA area and, perhaps, even a recommendation or two. In the mean time, the most important bit of general advice I can offer is: Read the forum. Read it extensively. Take time to go back at least 6 months and read what other members have shared. There is a TON of info available, free for the taking, from members with a lot of experience. The more homework you do, the better prepared you'll be; the less likely you'll make a mistake; and the more likely your experiences will be memorable (in a positive way).

Cheers, and carry on, amigo.

[B]Roman[/B]

[QUOTE=Lovejugs;2979233]On the flip the bargaining started and was quite annoying. She actually wanted a Paul Frank for Standard NOVA finish and some DATY. I told her she was killing the mood. These words actually came out of her mouth. "[b][I]This is so like you Americans![/I][/b]"[/QUOTE]At that point, I would have walked. No question about it. That sort of statement would have told me that, at best, the NoVA finish would have been barely acceptable. I would have skipped the HJ; as for the tip, I'm not even sure I would have left anything, given her remark about "[I]you Americans![/I]" Perhaps a fiver for her "efforts" with the massage itself. And, regardless of the new MMS, I'd have at least mentioned to her that the massage was terrible, the therapist was rude, and that I wouldn't be returning or telling my friends to visit her place.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982755]Hey, HuntzMan! IIRC, this is among your first AMP experiences here in the USA, even though you've mongered out of country and posted extensively in the ISG, right? If so, then there are a couple lessons available here. She felt it *necessary* to inform you that "[I]no fuck here[/I]" and, a bit later, "[I]no BJ here either[/I]. ".

What she has just done is put bounds on the services you can expect. Okay, that's fair, as far as that goes (although it's interesting, because those two statements indicate that she's aware of some places offering those services. . . Or that she has offered them at other AMPs where she's worked.) In my mind, I would then calculate that she had just informed me that her tip would be less than 100 and, then, less than 80 (assuming BBBJ) or 70 (assuming CBJ).

Now, when she asked how much you were going to tip, your reply should [U]not[/U] have been to quote the Standard NOVA price (40). Instead, you should have replied, "[I]That depends on the service[/I]. " Let her make the opening offer. Put the ball back into her court. It will tend to throw her off her negotiating game. Remember, she only gets a small amount (if any) of the house fee, so she's really working for the tip. That's your trump card.

If she continues to be evasive, just tell her to keep doing whatever she normally does for a massage. If she says, "[I]Finished[/I]" or something similar, start to get up from the table and begin to get dressed. Leave a 10 (or 20, max) tip and thank her for a "[I]nice massage[/I]. " Usually, before things get to this point, she'll have accepted your offer of 40, [U]which should include her top up or off[/U].

The fact that she laughed at your offer of 40, and said "[I][u]minimum[/u] 60[/I]" marks her as a provider who knows the game but wants to get maximum tip for the least amount of service. Besides, it's a presumptuous attitude to say something like that. My reply back would probably have been, "[I]I don't pay 60 for HJ.[/I]" Of course, if things have gotten to this point, my enthusiasm has already soured and the mood has been more or less ruined. At that point, I realize it'll be better to walk, since any HJ she's likely to give you will be terse and un-sensual.

[B]You [u]must[/u] be willing and ready to walk.[/B]

Following the above procedure ensures that we don't see a continual escalation of prices, accompanied by a continual diminution of services. And, it will save you some of your hard-earned dollars, too. Think about it: If you ever return to that AMP, how likely is it that any of the other girls there will accept 40 for a Standard NOVA finish?

There are more than enough AMPs to fill the demands of this area. The MMS has a good deal invested in her AMP, and she'd prefer satisfied return customers. If her girls are causing customers not to return, she'll eventually figure out which girls are causing it and try to adjust the attitude of those girls. MMS knows that you have other options.

[B]Roman[/B]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.[/QUOTE]Nice suggestions RR.

I would rarely pay 140 for a fully clothed HJ LOL.

140 better get me BBBJ, FS with rimming and a 2nd pop via BBBJ and HJ finish. Oh wait I get that for 80-90 in Cali LOL not here in the over priced land of NOVA where the Asian tang has got you Gweilos by the nuts.

PC out.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982755]

P.S. - [U]One more point:[/U] Bring ONLY what you want to pay, and no more. If visiting a new AMP and you're unsure of what services are available, just bring enough for Standard NOVA the first time. That way, you can't be cajoled into providing more for that level of service. If other services are available, the girl will make it clear, and you can bring an appropriate amount with you next time.[/QUOTE]If I'm expecting nothing more than a standard noVA, I put my entrance fee in one of my front pockets, 40 tip in the other front pocket, and a 10 in one of my back pockets. I'll put an extra 20 hidden away in my wallet and won't put any other large bills in my wallet. I'll break out the 10 and add it to the 40 if the HE and massage was excellent. This is to prevent the greedy providers from seeing what's in your wallet and hustling you even more as they won't let up badgering you for a bigger tip knowing you have a couple extra jacksons in your wallet. If they see some extra $$$ in your wallet, your leverage to negotiate, e. G. "hey I only got 50, sorry I didn't bring more" just goes out the window and they'll act like a pain in the ass and cut your session short and try to get rid of you quickly. That's a waste of an 60 or 80 entrance fee.

The KAMPS these days are asking 60 to 80 for simple noVA. F- that! And the KAMP providers are the biggest pain in the ass. The Thai providers are beginning to take after them with their 120 fee sans noVA service. I guess now, noVA service is extra on top of the 120. F- that!

[QUOTE=Lovejugs;2979233]She actually wanted a Paul Frank for Standard NOVA finish and some DATY.[/QUOTE]I Googled the term and all I found is a monkey; are you using it to mean a Ben Franklin?

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;2984440]I Googled the term and all I found is a monkey; are you using it to mean a Ben Franklin?[/QUOTE]Yes. Was trying to keep in code a bit, but you busted me out. LOL.

After a workout the other day, I decided to drop by Blue Therapy on the way back and get one of their reliable rubdowns. My favorite gal was not working that day (Wednesday), so MMS assigned a new gal, Mimi, instead. She's fairly tall (5'-8" perhaps), with strong arms and hands. Anyway, the TS was the usual soapy affair, a bit longer and more relaxing than usual, for some reason, and the massage itself was thorough from head to toe.

What was different with this visit is that, on the flip, Mimi asks "[I]What level do you want?[/I]" This wasn't a mood-killer question, and it didn't really put a big damper on things, but it was unexpected. Since I knew that Blue was a "HJ only" establishment, I couldn't figure exactly what she meant (unless she was trying to earn a few more dollars with rogue activity that MMS doesn't approve). I asked, and she said, "[I]There's Good, Better, and Best. You're experienced, so you know what that means.[/I]" It appeared that she was fishing to find out how much I'd be willing to spend for what would amount to a glorified HJ, all the while trying to imply that "something more" (BJ or FS) would be available. Maybe additional service was available, but I highly doubted it and I didn't pursue it further. I just told her to do what she usually does. It ended with a standard NoVA finish. Still, I'm not willing to wager $ on a finish that's not [U]guaranteed[/U] to be FS, and she wasn't going to confirm that.

Will I repeat with Mimi? Probably not. While she's not a "cash register", and she is a decent-looking gal, she just came across as a little too slick. Others might have a different opinion, but that's my assessment. I'll visit again on a day when my favorite gal is working. There's never any negotiation, she's solid with her knowledge of muscle groups, she's down-to-earth, and she also has a particular flair to her finishes. She might be 50+ years old, but that's never been an issue.

[B]Roman[/B]

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2982788]At that point, I would have walked. No question about it. That sort of statement would have told me that, at best, the NoVA finish would have been barely acceptable. I would have skipped the HJ; as for the tip, I'm not even sure I would have left anything, given her remark about "[I]you Americans![/I]" Perhaps a fiver for her "efforts" with the massage itself. And, regardless of the new MMS, I'd have at least mentioned to her that the massage was terrible, the therapist was rude, and that I wouldn't be returning or telling my friends to visit her place.[/QUOTE]This was the only time I was really about to. Her comment pissed me off. And when I get pissed I go from 0 to 60 in about a second. But I controlled it because I still wanted to relieve the stress. Work has been killing me. The release ended up being good. She has a nice body, but is really full of herself. She has a butta face in my opinion and it's a resting b face on top of that. My way of thinking is if the Mama didn't care enough to ask, she probably doesn't care about bad service.

Lovejugs.

[QUOTE=RoaminRoman;2985676]After a workout the other day, I decided to drop by Blue Therapy on the way back and get one of their reliable rubdowns. My favorite gal was not working that day (Wednesday), so MMS assigned a new gal, Mimi, instead. She's fairly tall (5'-8" perhaps), with strong arms and hands. Anyway, the TS was the usual soapy affair, a bit longer and more relaxing than usual, for some reason, and the massage itself was thorough from head to toe.

What was different with this visit is that, on the flip, Mimi asks "[I]What level do you want?[/I]" This wasn't a mood-killer question, and it didn't really put a big damper on things, but it was unexpected. Since I knew that Blue was a "HJ only" establishment, I couldn't figure exactly what she meant (unless she was trying to earn a few more dollars with rogue activity that MMS doesn't approve). I asked, and she said, "[I]There's Good, Better, and Best. You're experienced, so you know what that means.[/I]" It appeared that she was fishing to find out how much I'd be willing to spend for what would amount to a glorified HJ, all the while trying to imply that "something more" (BJ or FS) would be available. Maybe additional service was available, but I highly doubted it and I didn't pursue it further. I just told her to do what she usually does. It ended with a standard NoVA finish. Still, I'm not willing to wager $ on a finish that's not [U]guaranteed[/U] to be FS, and she wasn't going to confirm that.

Will I repeat with Mimi? Probably not. While she's not a "cash register", and she is a decent-looking gal, she just came across as a little too slick. Others might have a different opinion, but that's my assessment. I'll visit again on a day when my favorite gal is working. There's never any negotiation, she's solid with her knowledge of muscle groups, she's down-to-earth, and she also has a particular flair to her finishes. She might be 50+ years old, but that's never been an issue.

[B]Roman[/B][/QUOTE]This is the Old Kim's right? I use to frequent it when Angie was Mamasan there. Fun lady, who made sure you were happy. I don't get to Springfield anymore.

Jenny knows how to get me to relax, with a good medium massage. I just need to get all the soreness taken care of, deal with the stress I've accumulated in the past weeks. Once I was finally in a room with her I could feel my blood pressure beginning to lower as she softly spread oil all over me. She asked me how hard I liked my massage and I said more sensual than hard. She slid her hand along my ass and said she knew exactly what I meant. From there she used her fingers and palms to spread relaxation all over my body and between her teasing and her massage I was feeling pretty great. She took her time and when she said it was time to flip over I was at peace with the world as I grabbed her bun. Jenny didn't ask if I wanted a HE she just kept her massage going until that was the final step. Cleans me up proper and sends me on my way with a sweet smile.

[QUOTE=BunkerBuster;2976593]It's disconcerting when he lives near a provider, but it's a great thing when the cop lives near you and his car is close enough to deter any crap at your place.[/QUOTE]I've seen Tara in that apt building (same building as Nikki) many many times. The police car is parked right outside her place. I can confirm it's all safe and no problem whatsoever.

Can anybody show me how to. I live in annandale. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=KNockturnal;2883076]So when my more regular masseuse didn't fit my time constraints I decided to hit up an AMP. Usually for consistency I'll go to either them+them or Sunday. Went to el sol and I'm so glad I did.

Provider: Mimi.

Personality: 8/10.

Body: 7/10 (small frame, cute face, nice rear, and workable headlights (b)).

GFE: doubt it, but working on it haha.

Experience: MMS remembered me after at least 6 mos, which is always a good thing. That's less convincing you have to do with the provider. Gave her a hug and reserved for the full hour. Order of operations seemed to have changed a bit. The massage came first and the table shower last. Let me say right off the bat, that this was one of the better massages I've ever had in one of these establishments. I usually tell them no back walking, but she even did that well, gentle even. She knew what she was doing. In fact sometime during, I asked her something and she replied, "I'm a professional honey. " The massage was great. The after party was also enjoyable. She was very active with the teasing and being sensual. After the massage "finished," I enjoyed a nice table shower. Afterwards she gave me a head and neck massage and helped me get dressed. Her english was pretty good. Once she and I got more comfortable she put me up on how they do things there. First she mentioned that they have regular clients that only come for massages so they try to be careful about what they assume. Next she mentioned that she is one of three new girls and they all have massage skill level equal to hers. She mentioned that protocol works better if you tip first. Just lay it on the table and the provider will know what level of service you require. Amounts are as follows:

40 standard NOVA.

60 Headlight play.

80 Full body play.

$$ DATY (she said 69 but experience tells me it's probably a faux blow on her part).

The guesswork has made some AMPs in the past a somewhat regrettable experience. It's like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're going to get. Forest Gump. Hopefully Sun has changed the game.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the report. I am looking forward to seeing Mimi on my next return to NOVA.

[QUOTE=Taimau7;2989721]Can anybody show me how to. I live in annandale. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]With HE, this forum has lots of good info, even in the last 5-6 pages.

For the other, check out the PG County massage parlor forum.

[QUOTE=Nyhornet;2987101]This is the Old Kim's right? I use to frequent it when Angie was Mamasan there. Fun lady, who made sure you were happy. I don't get to Springfield anymore.[/QUOTE]I remember when it was another branch of the old American Spa run by the Greek mother and daughter.

Found myself overnighting in Springfield last night. Unfortunately date with POT SB didn't go as intended and found myself cruising BP & this forum into the wee hours.

The itch was still there this morning, so based on what I read here I tried out FW shortly after opening. Certainly one of the best & cleanest AMP's I've had the pleasure of visiting. You guys in NOVA don't know how lucky you are vs. The DIY we have here in Richmond.

Mamasan showed me to room and I opted for an hour at $. 80. Couple minutes later Rose came in and showed me to the TS. If I had one complaint I'd say it was that she was a little rough during the TS and it had no aspect of sensuality at all.

Back to the room for massage. Told her soft & sensual and then she proceeded to go with medium. Told me I'd get soft & sensual later LOL. It was good though. I had to tell her once or twice to lighten up and she called me a cry baby LOL. Don't get the wrong idea. It was all in fun and I very much enjoyed her strong hands. Really enjoyed it the few times she hopped up on the table and straddled me so she could get more leverage. Next came soft and sensual as she promised and she had me ready for the flip.

She got completely naked and got me ready with her tongue. I'll call it BBBJ lite. HE was hand release.

All in all a good visit. I'd say Rose was mid 30's (always difficult to guess. She might have been older) and 7/10 in looks. Gave her extra tip of $. 80. Probably a bit too much but she worked very hard and session went about 10 min overtime.

May as well just go to home base in China / Vietnam / Thailand and score even better deals. But not everyone here enjoys AMPs luckily.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;2982932]Nice suggestions RR.

I would rarely pay 140 for a fully clothed HJ LOL.

140 better get me BBBJ, FS with rimming and a 2nd pop via BBBJ and HJ finish. Oh wait I get that for 80-90 in Cali LOL not here in the over priced land of NOVA where the Asian tang has got you Gweilos by the nuts.

PC out.[/QUOTE]

I walked in and MMS recognized me. Like I said, I do come here, but it is only about once a month. I gave her the house fee, then she took me back to a private room. Hana was really flirtatious and fun the minute I met her. She gave me a back massage that was very detailed with lots of pressure. I appreciated how hard she tried to make me feel good. All of the rubbing action was perfect. This place has always been well maintained and clean, so I was not surprised to see my room spotless. She used to warm towel and got me cleaned up. This was a really nice session and I will be back again in about a month.

Pine is the name, located on the same street as it's name after. They advertise on CL (don't confuse it with Pine in Fairfax). The place is situated in these small narrow medical buildings. You need to park in between the medical buildings and the apartments. It's close by "old town" Hurrrrdone.

I had Nicole. She is a straight up knock-out. Really young (she said she is 26), thin, small little rear in some tight little white shorts, long black hair, cute face, about 5'4"-ish. She reminds me of the young Cali K girls in the LA area that work in the AMPs I frequented out there over 10 years ago. She probably gets carded at bars and clubs because she looks around 20 or so, like a college girl. Anyway, she knows she is a looker so her attitude reflects that. She told me 60 is minimum for service (I assume she means just a basic HE) but I balked and held at 50. She said she wouldn't do anything for 50 so I just let her massage the front of me until a couple minutes later when she realized I was going to stay firm, she said she would accept 50 but next time bring an extra 10. LOL Good thing I released my stress a day earlier otherwise little head would had taken over. She probably gets 60 for a lot of mongers because she will make you pop wood instantly just by her looks.

TS was nice, she did a thorough job. Massage was good, she even walked on my back and put a hot towel as well on my back, and did know knee walking, hence the extra 10 (for a total of 50).

I'm not sure if I'll see her again only because she is a hustler and she knows she can make some big tips without doing much extra activities so I bet for some baby feeding or just UTC roaming she will likely ask for at least 80 or 100. F- that! I would rather go drive to MD and get FS for a little more and have fun in Greenbelt. She says she only works weekends so I may go back and try someone else there.

I had a meander down to the Springfield and Franconia area and felt I needed a Wellness check.

Normally, Jenny (out of this 'Cosmos') and my ATF, Cindy, in (upper) Paris Court, keep a close. And spirited 'monitoring duty' on my vitals.

I found all as described in the last few posts. Quick entry through upstairs door. Highly business oriented MMS takes me to room 1. Not sure she believed my 'was here a year ago. ' fib.

Carolyn arrives, a friendly and (faux) shy assistant. She giggles and has me hold a small towel for walk to TS. Initially, TS is OK, fairly standard and it looks like she is going to take me to room after a back-only, fairly limited TS. I played a combo of dumb & been-here-before and flipped over for a better scrub. This familiarity with routines was a bonus and led to a far more thorough check and scrub of the rest, with a similar level of attention that I hoped for. She really had to check carefully. Possibly ticks when I wore shorts?

The massage was very good. Just below great, but very well done. Fingernails, etc, were only the last 10 minutes, so she worked me over well. The lights were dim, but some 'responsive headlights' cleared things up and gave me a great, relaxing smile. As mentioned, after all was said and (delightfully) done, the dress-you-like-a-King was a surprise, but appeared quite sincere.

MMS did ask how I felt things went, and seemed to mean it.

If I am in the area, I may repeat- would take luck-of-draw, but not be unhappy *at all* if Carolyn were to check on me.

Massage 8/10.

Therapist appearance 7. 5/10.

Her attitude 8. 5/10.

Overall. At least an 8/10, and probably my best 'if you went somewhere for your first time. ' Place in the area.