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[QUOTE=TampaDude250;4942571]This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?
Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.[/QUOTE]Jen / Kayjen is massage and HE only, does manscaping too. Advertises on Adultlook, on Fletcher near 75, safe apartment?
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4943082]No, I'm very familiar with collusion, and it's vastly overrated. Collusion requires a lot of organization and discipline. It's easier at the same spa, not so easy across spas in competition. Even at the same spa, tip negotiations happen behind close doors, and the impulse to cheat is strong, especially if the higher price is keeping customers away and reducing overall income. Remember, high prices only lead to high income if the guys are willing to pay them. But there are many who would rather do without the service altogether or would rather cum less frequently. If you do 4 guys a day at $40 a pop, you've made $1,120 in a week. If you double that price for the same service, you might get more like 1 per day, which is only $560 per week. You might argue that doubling the price won't reduce the number of customers that much. We know that isn't true, because otherwise they would do this. Every new customer brings in not only money but risk of arrest, so it's better to have fewer customers than more. The fact that they don't do this shows that the market will not bear the higher price under the current circumstances. Spa prices are a powerful balance between supply, demand, and risk. This is why door fees and service fees don't stray too far out of a standard range, except for premium service like Han River.
A few yahoos paying more aren't going to do squat, otherwise it would already have happened. The only thing that will change the standard price is a fundamental change in supply, demand, and / or risk, just like everything else in economics. Economists get many things wrong. This isn't one of them. The empirical and theoretical evidence for it is enormous and universally accepted except by a few discredited Marxists.
Bottom line: This is not a realistic worry. I'd worry more about a harder line by the cops or about spa girls being deported back to their own countries, changing the supply dynamic. [I]That[/I] would raise prices for sure.[/QUOTE]Direct your concerns to your police fear and let us worry about the economics. As for "collusion", you think these girls don't float around place to place? Even working under 1 company, they may have several locations so the word spreads intra-orgizationally. Then, the fact that many of them read this site, our posts also fuel the rise in expectations. So again, your attempt at applying standard economics does not fit this model.
[QUOTE=Skeot16;4921710]So I can confirm that this is the Mimi originally from Orange Spa and then Venus. I haven't seen her in about 5 years but she remembered me right away. She looks young but don't be fooled. She is easily in her early 40's but has an amazing body. Paid the same as Eagle and had a fantastic time. Will be back[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know. Lost track of Mimi Made an appointment at SPA 36. Mimi is extremely attractive. Had a fantastic time and will continue to go back.
While this has been an interesting debate. Anyone know where to find Coco? I've seen a couple reports for Coco's, but not sure they are The Coco. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Trav12;4944127]Thanks for letting me know. Lost track of Mimi Made an appointment at SPA 36. Mimi is extremely attractive. Had a fantastic time and will continue to go back.[/QUOTE]I think I saw this girl at Spa 36 back in late July, but I thought they were calling her "Minnie", which is a name I know I've seen there before (frankly, couldn't remember what Minnie looked like, so can't really confirm if it's the same girl). In any case, while the girl I saw at Spa 36 in late July was strikingly beautiful (even though she kept the mask on most of the time, except for CBJ in 69 and at the end when I ASKED to see her face as I was leaving), and had a near perfectly proportioned body for a taller girl, she DID seem a bit "loose" in the fitting, so to speak. I had a bit of a struggle to convince junior to go ahead and let go while sloshing about in the more than roomy confines of the crevice of pleasure.
[QUOTE=BradentonBob;4944114]Direct your concerns to your police fear and let us worry about the economics. As for "collusion", you think these girls don't float around place to place? Even working under 1 company, they may have several locations so the word spreads intra-orgizationally. Then, the fact that many of them read this site, our posts also fuel the rise in expectations. So again, your attempt at applying standard economics does not fit this model.[/QUOTE]Let's agree to disagree. I'm not going to have a debate about economics in here. If you're keen to debate some more, PM me or suggest a forum on this site where we could debate this openly. I enjoy debate as long as it's civil.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4943082]The only thing that will change the standard price is a fundamental change in supply, demand, and / or risk, just like everything else in economics. Economists get many things wrong. This isn't one of them.
. [I]That[/I] would raise prices for sure.[/QUOTE]If your theory were true without exception. I'd be FS banging K-girls for a fraction of the price I was back in the 80's when there were far fewer parlors / providers in operation than currently.
[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4946002]If your theory were true without exception. I'd be FS banging K-girls for a fraction of the price I was back in the 80's when there were far fewer parlors / providers in operation than currently.[/QUOTE]So let's see, there were fewer parlors, and you're saying the price was higher. That's pretty much exactly what standard econ would predict and exactly what I'm saying. Bigger supply = lower price. Lower supply = higher price.
But who knows? Maybe prostitution is a special case in labor economics that's different from all other types of labor. I don't see anything about it that's different from anything else, but you guys should write a treatise on it and submit it to the QJE.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4945267]Let's agree to disagree. I'm not going to have a debate about economics in here. If you're keen to debate some more, PM me or suggest a forum on this site where we could debate this openly. I enjoy debate as long as it's civil.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BradentonBob;4944114]Direct your concerns to your police fear and let us worry about the economics. As for "collusion", you think these girls don't float around place to place? Even working under 1 company, they may have several locations so the word spreads intra-orgizationally. Then, the fact that many of them read this site, our posts also fuel the rise in expectations. So again, your attempt at applying standard economics does not fit this model.[/QUOTE]I have to wonder if the girls lie to each other about the tips that they "get" as much as mongers like to fabricate about the tips they "gave".
Rule No. 1 Everybody Lies. House MD. Monger, "I fucked her in the ass bareback for an hour and only gave 20!" AMP Girl, "I only give white devil tuggy tuggy and got 100!
[QUOTE=Rico7;4946743]I have to wonder if the girls lie to each other about the tips that they "get" as much as mongers like to fabricate about the tips they "gave".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4946559]So let's see, there were fewer parlors, and you're saying the price was higher[/QUOTE]No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Just the opposite, the price was lower in the 80's (FS for $50-$80) and if your supply / demand theory held as true as you insist, the price would be lower given the increase in number of parlors / providers.
[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4947149], the price would be lower given the increase in number of parlors / providers.[/QUOTE]Meaning the current prices would be lower.
[QUOTE=Brasky;4946819]Rule No. 1 Everybody Lies. House MD. Monger, "I fucked her in the ass bareback for an hour and only gave 20!" AMP Girl, "I only give white devil tuggy tuggy and got 100![/QUOTE]Too funny... Exactly.
[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4947149]No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Just the opposite, the price was lower in the 80's (FS for $50-$80) and if your supply / demand theory held as true as you insist, the price would be lower given the increase in number of parlors / providers.[/QUOTE]$50 in 1985 is the equivalent of $120 in 2020.80 1985 dollars are the equivalent of just under $200 today.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4948284]$50 in 1985 is the equivalent of $120 in 2020.80 1985 dollars are the equivalent of just under $200 today.[/QUOTE]Not the K-girl dollars. Fish heads, rice, and kim-chee have not been subject to the level of inflation you have anally extracted. They also still sleep in a back room at the parlor, no rent, no insurance, no cost of useless degree in economics. Etc, etc.
Keep seeing her ad on rub ratings and finally pulled the trigger. She only accepts appointments on her website which is a monger's nightmare but I did it anyways and I'm glad I did. Photos accurate. Body is amazing. Standard screening and a small deposit got me a session and I was not let down. Her place is fantastic with alcohol served and she really went out of her way to serve me.
Hour rub with HE but next time I see her I will upgrade the service. You can tell she loves her job and her years in porn made my experience that much better. One visit and I'm already hooked on seeing her going to try the full service nuru next time.
[QUOTE=TampaDude250;4942571]This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?
Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.[/QUOTE]Can't remember the name of the person who offers it but it is an active ad.
It is a special case known as a fungible commodity. Unless there is something that distinguishes one provider over others, the market will simply shift to the other providers.
Gasoline is another fungible commodity. People aren't very loyal to a particular station and will jump to a lower price station of the price is too high.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4946559]But who knows? Maybe prostitution is a special case in labor economics that's different from all other types of labor. I don't see anything about it that's different from anything else, but you guys should write a treatise on it and submit it to the QJE.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jb987;4910765]What's normal FS rates around Tampa? Recently moved and wanting to fit into the scene. PM is fine.[/QUOTE]I'm in the spend more and get a better service camp. I haven't went under $400 in years, these days I spend $500-600 and am never disappointed. Tampa has all sorts of varying rates but I prefer to see solid ladies who take care of themselves and meet in nice Incall's.
[QUOTE=TampaDave;4951027]People aren't very loyal to a particular station and will jump to a lower price station of the price is too high.[/QUOTE]I dunno, I have a strong preference for RaceTrac stations over Wawa stations, but it's not based on gasoline quality or pricing. The restrooms at Wawa are just ewwww! And the restrooms, by comparison, at RaceTrac stations are larger, cleaner, and more 'palatial' (if that word can be used to describe a restroom).
As you said, you are choosing on restrooms, not gasoline, the fungible commodity. How much more would RaceTrac gas have to be to get you to use Wawa instead?
The ise of a fungible commodity (gas) is not set by the commodity bit by something related to it, like perceived quality, ease of access, extra products or services (clean restrooms).
Guys choose a parlor based on the services provided, but among the ones that provide the desired services, the decision will be based on price, location, etc.
The prices at HR are different from White Lotus not based on service but based on the quality of the girls. But, the prices aren't that much more because one can go to Orange and get same service with similar girls. Some guus will go to WL instead of HR for the table shower, an added service.
[QUOTE=DrWilly;4951106]I dunno, I have a strong preference for RaceTrac stations over Wawa stations, but it's not based on gasoline quality or pricing. The restrooms at Wawa are just ewwww! And the restrooms, by comparison, at RaceTrac stations are larger, cleaner, and more 'palatial' (if that word can be used to describe a restroom).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TampaDave;4951027]It is a special case known as a fungible commodity. Unless there is something that distinguishes one provider over others, the market will simply shift to the other providers.
Gasoline is another fungible commodity. People aren't very loyal to a particular station and will jump to a lower price station of the price is too high.[/QUOTE]Some degree of fungibility is a universal aspect of labor. It's not unique to prostitution. Lawyer sucks? Hire another. Spa girl won't suck? Find one who will. What these guys are saying is that prostitution is a kind of labor so special and unique that it behaves in ways that completely defy the standard rules of economics. I don't see it and there's zero evidence for it.
[QUOTE=JsTampa;4939667]I ventured out to a seemingly new location in Lutz yesterday. I was very happy with the attendant, she was smoking hot, exactly my type. She was on the younger side I'd say about 35 at the most and nice and petite with a really hot ass wearing some really tight shorts. I was immediately in heaven.
I paid $70 for an hour and showered first with a lot of help from her for the shower. She jumped in and actually showered with me washing all over my body. She did wear a mask but it didn't take away from the experience and I completely understand the mask.
For the massage I was upfront with her. I read a couple people saying the time was shortened so I mentioned that and asked she give me the full time. She said no problem.
Her massage was pretty good for a smaller women. She seemed to know what she was doing.
On the flip I was pretty much ready to go as I've been excited by her right from the start. No I would normally want to DATY and FS but today that wasn't in the cards for me. I'm having severe allergies right now (being treated by doctor for allergies. I've been tested for covid and DO NOT have covid, it's definitely allergies). I didn't want to freak her out with my allergies and her think its covid so I didn't want to take off my mask and just settled on a HJ. I told her I needed to see her naked and we agreed on $80. She basically striped down for me and allowed me to roam and play which was so enjoyable. I just couldn't help myself she's so damn hot I almost went for giving her a lick but I had to restrain myself. I didn't want to ruin the moment. She did do a good job rubbing all over and playing with my ass a bit while squeezing my balls. I finally couldn't hold out anymore and shot a nice big load all over. I could tell I had her wet as I was rubbing around her sweet little clit. I will definitely be back to taste it as I dreamed about it all night.
Overall for this visit I was very happy and will be seeing her again.[/QUOTE]I had a little bit of a hard time figuring out exactly where this place is as my GPS was telling me down near Riverview but I kept hearing it was the Lutz area. I finally got to put in the address correctly and took me right there. It is actually in Lutz and not Tampa.
I'm glad I found the place as I had a very similar good time with her. She is certainly a little hottie. I hope to get some time later or tomorrow to post of through review but I'll say this much. I will be exploring her much more in the future. She's really a tasty little thing.
[QUOTE=SMegmaMonster;4946002]If your theory were true without exception. I'd be FS banging K-girls for a fraction of the price I was back in the 80's when there were far fewer parlors / providers in operation than currently.[/QUOTE]And Body Rub gals would be charging $100 per hour now $140 is a good deal, $160 is pretty much standard and we're seeing some pushing $200.
They don't even need to talk to each other, just read about it here or see what's being advertised locally.
Can you all shut the fuck up about cost. My God. My economic view is. I don't give a fuck. Where is the quality. Her age. Looks. Service provided. My choice to pay what I want. No one here gives a fuck what you think what it was like in 1985 when I was ten. SHUT UP!
Take care,
Aging.
[QUOTE=BeaverHunter5;4952306]I had a little bit of a hard time figuring out exactly where this place is as my GPS was telling me down near Riverview but I kept hearing it was the Lutz area. I finally got to put in the address correctly and took me right there. It is actually in Lutz and not Tampa.
I'm glad I found the place as I had a very similar good time with her. She is certainly a little hottie. I hope to get some time later or tomorrow to post of through review but I'll say this much. I will be exploring her much more in the future. She's really a tasty little thing.[/QUOTE]What's the Name of the massage or Spa in Lutz that is new or the address.
[QUOTE=AgingMale;4952860]Can you all shut the fuck up about cost. My God. My economic view is. I don't give a fuck. Where is the quality. Her age. Looks. Service provided. My choice to pay what I want. No one here gives a fuck what you think what it was like in 1985 when I was ten. SHUT UP!
Take care,
Aging.[/QUOTE]If it doesn't interest you. Not a complicated thing, at least for most people.
Found it. OK experience. The good. She is lean and attractive. Long smooth legs and a firm round ass you can bounce a qtr off of. Natural B's and flat stomach. Massage was OK. Not the best I've had and certainly not the worst. The very good. Top 2 or 3 tightest kitty I've ever had. CG then standing DS for as hard as I could give it. The bad. Got no BJ. Once wrap was on she would not allow me to touch it. She did all handling. I guess it was a clean thing for her?
[QUOTE=BeaverHunter5;4952306]I had a little bit of a hard time figuring out exactly where this place is as my GPS was telling me down near Riverview but I kept hearing it was the Lutz area. I finally got to put in the address correctly and took me right there. It is actually in Lutz and not Tampa.
I'm glad I found the place as I had a very similar good time with her. She is certainly a little hottie. I hope to get some time later or tomorrow to post of through review but I'll say this much. I will be exploring her much more in the future. She's really a tasty little thing.[/QUOTE]Hello, what is the name of the spa in Lutz? I would like to try while I'm in town. Had a great time with Mimi at Spa 36 earlier today. Thank you.
Visited Spa 36 early this afternoon, called ahead for Mimi and was not disappointed. Have reviewed her in a previous post. PM for details. Will continue to repeat.
Simply on 41. Called this evening for an appointment arrived and greeted by a tall thin beautiful Chinese masked lady (Christina) looks like mid 30's? Previous poster described her very well.
Handed her. 7 for the hour. She showed me to the room to get ready, I laid a BEN on the table and waited for her to return. She gave me a good medium massage with excellent conversation as she was full of questions. She's very afraid of covid-19, wore a mask the entire time which was fine as I did too. Got to the flip made a hand motion and I smiled and said everything please? I immediately jumped off the table to get to my pants for another BEN- she was now smiling. She got ready and proceeded with disinfecting my hands twice, no BJ; very sensual rub all over with her breasts then cg and mish. I enjoyed the full hour with her and will repeat this week. I may have tipped too much but I felt the experience was worth it, you most likely can get by with $. 5 I think. Some may not like her limited menu but I enjoyed it.
Gentlemen, Has anyone stopped into Orange recently? Sitting at the light on Kennedy and D Mabs over the weekend, fucking hate that light, and I saw this smoking hot Asian chic walking northbound on DM. She definitely pinged the AMP radar. Young 20's to 30 ish, tall and thin, body like a taller spinner with pokies, and wearing daisy dukes. Just walking with an ice coffee.
The monger brain thought, or hoped, that she was from Orange and out getting a coffee. In reality, she's probably a UT hottie that was walking to yoga or spin class. Perhaps an exploratory visit to Orange is in order next week!
[QUOTE=FLGuy48;4953411]Found it. OK experience. The good. She is lean and attractive. Long smooth legs and a firm round ass you can bounce a qtr off of. Natural B's and flat stomach. Massage was OK. Not the best I've had and certainly not the worst. The very good. Top 2 or 3 tightest kitty I've ever had. CG then standing DS for as hard as I could give it. The bad. Got no BJ. Once wrap was on she would not allow me to touch it. She did all handling. I guess it was a clean thing for her?[/QUOTE]Hmmm I went there too but she only gave in to a hand job but afterwards said she'd let me smash next time; I dunno if she was feeling me out to ensure I wasn't LE then when she was satisfied said I cud smash next. How much was everything for you guys total? The smashing / massage total?
[QUOTE=Eagle7415;4953536]Hello, what is the name of the spa in Lutz? I would like to try while I'm in town. Had a great time with Mimi at Spa 36 earlier today. Thank you.[/QUOTE]It's the blue Bamboo and I can't recommend it. Too many rules and terrible service. Sorry to bring the bad news.
Any info on this would be great.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/182844[/URL]
Or tips for great non AMPs.
After the mystery Asian hottie I needed some Asian persuasion. Stopped by Orange first, lights out and door locked. Next! Moved on to Yokohama. Greeted by the friendly mamasan who took my temp and off to a room. A short wait and in walks beautiful Scarlett in a little dress. Meow me likey likey. Lookd to be early 30's and 5 2" and 100-120; nice perky natural B's and round ass. I would describe her as Asian "girl next door" hottie vs model hottie like the HR girls. Personally I prefer the GND hotties.
Scarlett dipped out to get ready and I hit the self service shower. The massage was really good. Strong deep tissue with back walking, and finished with the sensual light touch feather fingers all over. Finally the good stuff. Scarlett ditches the dress revealing a killer bod and starts out with slow teasing body to body rub. Flipped her around for CBJ 69 DATY. Petite shaved kitty fresh and tasty. Moved onto RCG watching her ass and pussy pump up and down was amazing, almost too much, I had to slow her down so I didn't blast in 2 minutes. Changed to standing mish. Pounded away her tits bouncing and watching her face in ecstasy and making little moans. The view and sounds were heaven. Blasted in the cover pushing as deep as I could go and held there after savoring it. Short soft rub to finish and out the door with candy and water. Standard fortune cookies for house and tip.
I am a Scarlett fan and will repeat. I could hear 2-3 other girls and looking forward to trying other talent. After Yokohama, I was like HR who? Seriously, I left and couldn't think straight. I was spun and spent. Monger on.
Any mongers have info on this one? Mid 20's petite blonde is just my type but DK about level of service relative to other options at FRS.
[URL]http://www.floridarelaxationstudios.com/attendants/profile/charlie/[/URL]
I saw Charlie back when she was at 6 shops. Standard time with her, no kissing, CBJ, did do daty which she was enthusiastic about then on to cfs. She was a fun time but lack of dfk and BBBJ had me scratch her off future visits.
[QUOTE=Dude5293;4956436]Any mongers have info on this one? Mid 20's petite blonde is just my type but DK about level of service relative to other options at FRS.
[URL]http://www.floridarelaxationstudios.com/attendants/profile/charlie/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brasky;4956322]After the mystery Asian hottie I needed some Asian persuasion. Stopped by Orange first, lights out and door locked. Next! Moved on to Yokohama. Greeted by the friendly mamasan who took my temp and off to a room. A short wait and in walks beautiful Scarlett in a little dress. Meow me likey likey. Lookd to be early 30's and 5 2" and 100-120; nice perky natural B's and round ass. I would describe her as Asian "girl next door" hottie vs model hottie like the HR girls. Personally I prefer the GND hotties.
Scarlett dipped out to get ready and I hit the self service shower. The massage was really good. Strong deep tissue with back walking, and finished with the sensual light touch feather fingers all over. Finally the good stuff. Scarlett ditches the dress revealing a killer bod and starts out with slow teasing body to body rub. Flipped her around for CBJ 69 DATY. Petite shaved kitty fresh and tasty. Moved onto RCG watching her ass and pussy pump up and down was amazing, almost too much, I had to slow her down so I didn't blast in 2 minutes. Changed to standing mish. Pounded away her tits bouncing and watching her face in ecstasy and making little moans. The view and sounds were heaven. Blasted in the cover pushing as deep as I could go and held there after savoring it. Short soft rub to finish and out the door with candy and water. Standard fortune cookies for house and tip.
I am a Scarlett fan and will repeat. I could hear 2-3 other girls and looking forward to trying other talent. After Yokohama, I was like HR who? Seriously, I left and couldn't think straight. I was spun and spent. Monger on.[/QUOTE]Amen Brutha. Just had Scarlett last week and I can attest to this! She definitely has the goods.
[QUOTE=German1;4956619]I saw Charlie back when she was at 6 shops. Standard time with her, no kissing, CBJ, did do daty which she was enthusiastic about then on to cfs. She was a fun time but lack of dfk and BBBJ had me scratch her off future visits.[/QUOTE]I've seen Charlie at FRS and she's quite the spinner always a good time. I received an unsolicited BBBJ from her because she knows I tip out at 6 o as that's me. If I receive good service and enjoyed myself I tip out. Tipping BTW is not required at all at FRS. Charlie is definitely worth seeing or any of the other girls at FRS as I've never been disappointed.
Saw Scarlett at Yokohama. She was very particular. Hot girl with B tits and tasty pussy but very strict with the mask. $80 pastries for door fee and gave her $160 cookies for everything. Showered myself and got a decent massage. On the flip, had to keep mask on with no option for dfk. She blew me with decent CBJ and I ate her out with daty and dato. No digits allowed. Tried several positions but she wasn't into it. Ended with HJ. It was ok, probabaly won't repeat.
Did see another girl walking around that was as cute. Can't wait for covid to be over so I can get a proper Han River GFE dfk from Momo.
Stay safe.