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[QUOTE=Everest;3479820]I once had someone asking $$$ for FS at Bogies. I thought she was joking. She was not. She eventually came down to $. 4 . A better negotiator would have made her come down to $.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I can't see paying over a 100 for FS at one of the dumpster clubs.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3479632]This is directed towards the post by everest. I myself like to get the occasional dance from the girls who don't provide extras. I will ask them if they dance naked, if they say no I'll usually say no thanks. If they say yes to dancing nude I'll take them in the back. Partway through the first song I'll pull out little SL while they are turned around and let them lapdance my bare dick. If they freak out its a one and done. If they don't freak out I usually stay three or four songs and press the no extra line.[/QUOTE]I just can't see spending 50 - 75 - 100 on clean dances, I just don't have that kind of money to blow. I do like me some nude dances though, I usually ask for a few warm up dances before the fun begins.
[QUOTE=Everest;3478205]I have always come back from The Landing Strip disappointed at best. So after avoiding LS for more than a year, I am giving it one more shot this afternoon. I will post my report later, but I was wondering if there are any daytime dancers that I should AVOID. The ones that try to scam you. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JadooMazar;3478231]LS is going downhill. I have been there few times in last few weeks on Friday afternoon and very disappointed. Girls are ok and asking more than. 3 for everything which I laughed at.[/QUOTE]Because of all this nonsence.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3479301]Good review.
I've had similar experiences at the Landing Strip over the past 6 months or so. Lots of good features- decent talent and roomy private dance facilities to name a few. But the negatives are mounting up: mandatory VIP, smoking allowed. Most troubling, there seems to be a concerted effort to jack up the prices of any extra curricular activities during a private dance. This might work for neophytes who do not know to negotiate prices and, failing to arrive at a mutually agreeable arrangement, to relocate to another more reasonably priced club (Criket has been a good option over recent months). Hopefully the readers of this forum will be sufficiently informed to negotiate fair prices for any extra services at the LS, or leave for a different club.
Thanks again for the review.[/QUOTE]I agree. I have had a good time there every time recently. Pixie is a nice option during the day.
[QUOTE=BustOne;3479470]Do you mean mandatory valet or is there a VIP tax now?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Electronman;3479301]Good review.
I've had similar experiences at the Landing Strip over the past 6 months or so. Lots of good features- decent talent and roomy private dance facilities to name a few. But the negatives are mounting up: mandatory VIP, smoking allowed. Most troubling, there seems to be a concerted effort to jack up the prices of any extra curricular activities during a private dance. This might work for neophytes who do not know to negotiate prices and, failing to arrive at a mutually agreeable arrangement, to relocate to another more reasonably priced club (Criket has been a good option over recent months). Hopefully the readers of this forum will be sufficiently informed to negotiate fair prices for any extra services at the LS, or leave for a different club.
Thanks again for the review.[/QUOTE]Good catch. My comment should have said mandatory valet at Landing Strip. Most of the time, there is no extra charge for the VIP (I often tip $5) unless you request to use the larger VIP room, in which case there is a $20 charge.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3480391]Good catch. My comment should have said mandatory valet at Landing Strip. Most of the time, there is no extra charge for the VIP (I often tip $5) unless you request to use the larger VIP room, in which case there is a $20 charge.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up for me Electronman. I've never used the bigger VIP room, is it worth the money ($20)?
Open Sundays 12:00 PM to?
[QUOTE=BustOne;3479956]I just can't see spending 50 - 75 - 100 on clean dances, I just don't have that kind of money to blow. I do like me some nude dances though, I usually ask for a few warm up dances before the fun begins.[/QUOTE]They sure aren't clean dances if done right. Took a cutie into the back for a 'clean dance' last night, pulled out little SL and pulled aside her thong and started rubbing it on her pussy. We did one and a half songs before she turned around and asked if I had a condom. Put it on and she sat right down. This dancer repeatedly said she didn't do extra's but it worked out. Worked out even better when she accepted the $100 without asking for more even though we did no pre-negotiations.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3480749]They sure aren't clean dances if done right. Took a cutie into the back for a 'clean dance' last night, pulled out little SL and pulled aside her thong and started rubbing it on her pussy. We did one and a half songs before she turned around and asked if I had a condom. Put it on and she sat right down. This dancer repeatedly said she didn't do extra's but it worked out. Worked out even better when she accepted the $100 without asking for more even though we did no pre-negotiations.[/QUOTE]Well played sir, you got very lucky. I think its safe to say that in most cases it wouldn't of been the same outcome. You should play the lottery while you're still hot LOL.
I thought I'd pass along some tips on the hobby based on different things I've read (some from this very site) or gleaned from other sources. I don't claim to be the expert on all of this, and I'm sure there are others here that I could learn a thing or two from (and already have, actually). I just thought I'd share things that have helped me.
Most of my mongering has been at SCs, and I figure some quick tips on negotiating would be worthwhile.
1. Do your research. Find out the typical prices for the services you're looking for at the clubs you're interested in. This should be done before you even enter a club.
2. Know the maximum amount you're willing to spend for a particular service. You should have a figure in mind before you even talk to a dancer.
3. Your opening offer should be below the maximum amount you're willing to spend. Ideally, she'll agree to your offer, but if not, you've got some room to raise your bid to satisfy her without exceeding your maximum amount. For example, let's say you're willing to spend 150 for a particular service. She opens with 200. You counter with 100. If she takes it, great. If she counters with 150, then both parties will still be happy.
4. Be willing to walk away from the deal. There are always other dancers and other clubs. If you can't agree on a price you're willing to pay, then (respectfully) tell the dancer "thanks, but no thanks".
5. Learn from each negotiation. On the drive home, replay each negotiation in your head. What can be learned from it? Could you have saved some money with a lower opening offer? Should you have stuck to your guns on a particular price? Could you have gotten more out of the deal in some way?
[QUOTE=Jooop;3480683]Open Sundays 12:00 PM to?[/QUOTE]All clubs are open till 2 AM.
[QUOTE=BustOne;3480649]Thanks for clearing that up for me Electronman. I've never used the bigger VIP room, is it worth the money ($20)?[/QUOTE]The larger VIP room at LS has a bench seat that is long enough to lie down although it isn't especially wide. The surcharge is typically $20. Worth it? Maybe if you take advantage of the extra roomy private area.
In contrast, the other smaller VIP rooms contain a bench seat. They are reasonably roomy and comfortable when compared with the VIP in many other area clubs.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3481513]The larger VIP room at LS has a bench seat that is long enough to lie down although it isn't especially wide. The surcharge is typically $20. Worth it? Maybe if you take advantage of the extra roomy private area.
In contrast, the other smaller VIP rooms contain a bench seat. They are reasonably roomy and comfortable when compared with the VIP in many other area clubs.[/QUOTE]I've used the bigger room a few times, it's a nice $20 if you're not counting pennies. More privacy (there's not a curtain 3 feet away from you and 3 other guys in booths right next to you), extra room to play around in, which can come in handy. It feels more like a private room.
[QUOTE=Jooop;3480683]Open Sundays 12:00 PM to?[/QUOTE]Went there dam there was a great pick of chicks, ebony white Black hair Blond red heads.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3481513]The larger VIP room at LS has a bench seat that is long enough to lie down although it isn't especially wide. The surcharge is typically $20. Worth it? Maybe if you take advantage of the extra roomy private area.
In contrast, the other smaller VIP rooms contain a bench seat. They are reasonably roomy and comfortable when compared with the VIP in many other area clubs.[/QUOTE]I've been in the regular VIP area a few times (its fine with me) but never the bigger one. Maybe ill just look next time.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3481513]The larger VIP room at LS has a bench seat that is long enough to lie down although it isn't especially wide. The surcharge is typically $20. Worth it? Maybe if you take advantage of the extra roomy private area.
In contrast, the other smaller VIP rooms contain a bench seat. They are reasonably roomy and comfortable when compared with the VIP in many other area clubs.[/QUOTE]I have never been to the bigger room at LS. I will have to try it just for the heck of it.
Speaking if VIP rooms / booths, I like to get comfortable when I get a dance. That is one thing that turns me off at H8 N and Bogie. I haven't been to too many SCs but the most comfortable VIP rooms I have been in are at Cracker Jaxx in Jackson. They even have a huge room for the same VIP tax as other VIP rooms but since it is right next to DJ booth, it is practical only during the day time / afternoon when they is no DJ (they only have a DJ after 7, I think. It is more like a party room with 2 or 3 couches. Some VIP rooms at Deja Vu are pretty comfortable, others are crampy. I like the mirrors in BT's Dearborn.
I haven't been to other Detroit clubs. Which ones have real good VIP rooms?
[QUOTE=Everest;3482229]I have never been to the bigger room at LS. I will have to try it just for the heck of it.
Speaking if VIP rooms / booths, I like to get comfortable when I get a dance. That is one thing that turns me off at H8 N and Bogie. I haven't been to too many SCs but the most comfortable VIP rooms I have been in are at Cracker Jaxx in Jackson. They even have a huge room for the same VIP tax as other VIP rooms but since it is right next to DJ booth, it is practical only during the day time / afternoon when they is no DJ (they only have a DJ after 7, I think. It is more like a party room with 2 or 3 couches. Some VIP rooms at Deja Vu are pretty comfortable, others are crampy. I like the mirrors in BT's Dearborn.
I haven't been to other Detroit clubs. Which ones have real good VIP rooms?[/QUOTE]Hustler Club (metro Detroit, Lincoln Park) has roomy private dance facilities, including at least one with its own bathroom. Hustler was great when it opened but several years ago corporate managers made a number of changes that really ruined the value of the club for me (jacking up prices and removing doors from otherwise private dance rooms).
Next best, in my limited experience, would be the Coliseum, where the private dance areas are reasonably roomy and comfortable (but the club is smokey so I don't go there often).
Dance booths at BT's Dearborn are cramped but generally private.
VIP facilities at Penthouse and Flight Club are private (heavy curtains) and comfortable but not roomy.
Players club has semi-private dance facilities on the second floor that are cordoned off by heavy bead curtains that give only a semblance of privacy.
Criket has one reasonably sized room in the back and several somewhat cramped curtained areas that feature uncomfortable narrow high arm chairs (a good lap dance needs a bench seat or wide chair where the dancer can straddle the customer).
At the lower end of the continuum, Bogarts has small curtained cubicles with an uncomfortable chair. Henry VIII and provides a very cramped closet with a hard metal chair.
Thats about the extent of my metro Detroit strip club knowledge. Hopefully others will chime in with reviews and opinions.
I agree with your comment about the large private dance facilities at Cracker Jaxx. Now if they'd only improve their dayshift talent.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3483040]Hustler Club (metro Detroit, Lincoln Park) has roomy private dance facilities, including at least one with its own bathroom. Hustler was great when it opened but several years ago corporate managers made a number of changes that really ruined the value of the club for me (jacking up prices and removing doors from otherwise private dance rooms).
Next best, in my limited experience, would be the Coliseum, where the private dance areas are reasonably roomy and comfortable (but the club is smokey so I don't go there often).
Dance booths at BT's Dearborn are cramped but generally private.
VIP facilities at Penthouse and Flight Club are private (heavy curtains) and comfortable but not roomy.
Players club has semi-private dance facilities on the second floor that are cordoned off by heavy bead curtains that give only a semblance of privacy.
Criket has one reasonably sized room in the back and several somewhat cramped curtained areas that feature uncomfortable narrow high arm chairs (a good lap dance needs a bench seat or wide chair where the dancer can straddle the customer).
At the lower end of the continuum, Bogarts has small curtained cubicles with an uncomfortable chair. Henry VIII and provides a very cramped closet with a hard metal chair.
Thats about the extent of my metro Detroit strip club knowledge. Hopefully others will chime in with reviews and opinions.
I agree with your comment about the large private dance facilities at Cracker Jaxx. Now if they'd only improve their dayshift talent.[/QUOTE]Wow!! Thanks for the extensive info. I should try some the ones you mentioned.
As for Cracker Jaxx, the other end of the spectrum is their non-VIP lapdance area, which is pretty much an open space. Something like office cubicles.
I've done this a few times and it works: plan an outing to a SC (an enterprising fellow could probably coordinate fellow mongers through inbox). Think of a theme. Two that have really worked well: Military reunion (I really am a vet) and Divorce party. Pick two or three guys in the group that you all are celebrating and they usually receive extra attention (Divorcees sometimes get discounts due to the huge loss in the divorce). Vets with good stories get the same. The group creates a party atmosphere, sometimes a bouncer or DJ will even by you a drink or two. I you can play the part well, the rewards could include outside visits and maybe even an arrangement or two. Do your homework, hone the craft. Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=Everest;3479820]I once had someone asking $$$ for FS at Bogies. I thought she was joking. She was not. She eventually came down to $. 4 . A better negotiator would have made her come down to $.[/QUOTE]A few months back I had a one quote me $$. 50 for a CBJ at LS. I laughed at her. She stayed with me for about 30 minutes too. Tried to gas me up the whole time. Maybe she wasn't aware how far $$. 50 goes.
Saw Diamond medium ebony but great attitude and great personality. Get digits and enjoyed tongue stud in back and will be seeing outside by agreement. Learning ropes and appreciate input. Not regular but enjoy a distress occasionally.
So I was in on Saturday dayshift. Harley (a taller blond, pretty face, and just slightly thick) caught my eye. I tipped her on stage and asked her to come over. She was busy with a regular and I left before I could get to know her. Any of you have any intel on her? I avoided the Dee Dee, Nipples older woman, and several others that attacked me before I even had a drink in my hand. Any input would be helpful. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Electronman;3483040]Hustler Club (metro Detroit, Lincoln Park) has roomy private dance facilities, including at least one with its own bathroom. Hustler was great when it opened but several years ago corporate managers made a number of changes that really ruined the value of the club for me (jacking up prices and removing doors from otherwise private dance rooms).
Next best, in my limited experience, would be the Coliseum, where the private dance areas are reasonably roomy and comfortable (but the club is smokey so I don't go there often).
Dance booths at BT's Dearborn are cramped but generally private.
VIP facilities at Penthouse and Flight Club are private (heavy curtains) and comfortable but not roomy.
Players club has semi-private dance facilities on the second floor that are cordoned off by heavy bead curtains that give only a semblance of privacy.
Criket has one reasonably sized room in the back and several somewhat cramped curtained areas that feature uncomfortable narrow high arm chairs (a good lap dance needs a bench seat or wide chair where the dancer can straddle the customer).
At the lower end of the continuum, Bogarts has small curtained cubicles with an uncomfortable chair. Henry VIII and provides a very cramped closet with a hard metal chair.
Thats about the extent of my metro Detroit strip club knowledge. Hopefully others will chime in with reviews and opinions.
I agree with your comment about the large private dance facilities at Cracker Jaxx. Now if they'd only improve their dayshift talent.[/QUOTE]The booths at BT's Dearborn are pretty roomy with wide benches. The even have mirrors. I enjoy watching the dancers grinding on me in the mirror. I don't care for the 20 tax to get into the VIP at BT's though.
For those of you more experienced, how do you ask a dancer for OTC fun? What do you offer that she would consider meeting up rather than dancing for you in the VIP in the clubs?
[QUOTE=Tomautoman;3483897]So I was in on Saturday dayshift. Harley (a taller blond, pretty face, and just slightly thick) caught my eye. I tipped her on stage and asked her to come over. She was busy with a regular and I left before I could get to know her. Any of you have any intel on her? I avoided the Dee Dee, Nipples older woman, and several others that attacked me before I even had a drink in my hand. Any input would be helpful. Thank you.[/QUOTE]She's new to the game. Last week she started and she was very against the idea of extras. I'm sure that will change but that's what she told me.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;3484213]For those of you more experienced, how do you ask a dancer for OTC fun? What do you offer that she would consider meeting up rather than dancing for you in the VIP in the clubs?[/QUOTE]From what I've heard from one of my favorite dancers who's vanished from the club scene is the rate is on the high side, around $300 per private visit. Double the club rate but your getting more time, possibly private dances before the action begins. From what I've heard she no longer needs to show up to the club and pay all the tip outs, a few regulars and she's got a nice weekly paycheck. But the girl has to be pretty spectacular both in bed and in looks to keep getting weekly requests. As to what do you offer, I'd start with just getting a cell number first. That in itself will break the ice and allow you to negotiate OTC fun. Problem is these girls are used to fucking and being done and out of the VIP in 15 minutes, will they change that pattern when they visit your place? And if you've got a nice place with valuables you have to wonder if they are reporting what you have to their boyfriend or pimp for a future break in. Quick text from her to one of those guys that your in the club and your place is empty. Or do you book a hotel room and risk getting a no show? Too many risks involved, only with top tier talent would I consider doing OTC.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;3484213]For those of you more experienced, how do you ask a dancer for OTC fun? What do you offer that she would consider meeting up rather than dancing for you in the VIP in the clubs?[/QUOTE]Ask if she does private dances (take out).
Tues I was offered bbbjs for 100 from 3 different girls. I may start coming here again.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3485181]Tues I was offered bbbjs for 100 from 3 different girls. I may start coming here again.[/QUOTE]Get them to 75.00 at shift change!
Is there VIP room and cost for that?
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3485181]Tues I was offered bbbjs for 100 from 3 different girls. I may start coming here again.[/QUOTE]You can get FS for that (maybe a bit more) if you can negotiate well.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3484850]From what I've heard from one of my favorite dancers who's vanished from the club scene is the rate is on the high side, around $300 per private visit. Double the club rate but your getting more time, possibly private dances before the action begins. From what I've heard she no longer needs to show up to the club and pay all the tip outs, a few regulars and she's got a nice weekly paycheck. But the girl has to be pretty spectacular both in bed and in looks to keep getting weekly requests. As to what do you offer, I'd start with just getting a cell number first. That in itself will break the ice and allow you to negotiate OTC fun. Problem is these girls are used to fucking and being done and out of the VIP in 15 minutes, will they change that pattern when they visit your place? And if you've got a nice place with valuables you have to wonder if they are reporting what you have to their boyfriend or pimp for a future break in. Quick text from her to one of those guys that your in the club and your place is empty. [b]Or do you book a hotel room and risk getting a no show?[/b] Too many risks involved, only with top tier talent would I consider doing OTC.[/QUOTE]I would never have any type of hooker in my house. Get a cheap hotel room, have her meet you in the parking lot (or pick her up since most strippers don't or can't drive) then pay for a short stay. No need to "book" a 100 dollar room when a 30 dollar short stay works just the same.
Just saved you 70 bucks, you're welcome LOL.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;3484213]For those of you more experienced, how do you ask a dancer for OTC fun? What do you offer that she would consider meeting up rather than dancing for you in the VIP in the clubs?[/QUOTE]Just ask her. Just like anything else in life you want, just ask for it.
[B]example:[/B] maybe we could hang out sometime, here's my number, hit me up if you would like to get a room and make some cash.
Don't discuss money until she contacts you. Most of these strippers are on drugs so 100 dollars goes a long way, no need to spend over 150 unless you're getting more then one pop.
[QUOTE=MightyMonger;3485493]Just ask her. Just like anything else in life you want, just ask for it.
[B]example:[/B] maybe we could hang out sometime, here's my number, hit me up if you would like to get a room and make some cash.
Don't discuss money until she contacts you. Most of these strippers are on drugs so 100 dollars goes a long way, no need to spend over 150 unless you're getting more then one pop.[/QUOTE]I was at leggs lounge when it was raided many moons ago and I can't believe I'm not a senior member. With girls out side the club like Tuesdays, Bambi, and Miranda. I should write a book. But that's like 18 yrs ago. .
[QUOTE=Kurse;3483398]I've done this a few times and it works: plan an outing to a SC (an enterprising fellow could probably coordinate fellow mongers through inbox). Think of a theme. Two that have really worked well: Military reunion (I really am a vet) and Divorce party. Pick two or three guys in the group that you all are celebrating and they usually receive extra attention (Divorcees sometimes get discounts due to the huge loss in the divorce). Vets with good stories get the same. The group creates a party atmosphere, sometimes a bouncer or DJ will even by you a drink or two. I you can play the part well, the rewards could include outside visits and maybe even an arrangement or two. Do your homework, hone the craft. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Seems like a lot of work to go through just to get a free drink and some extra attention. But to each his own. Why don't you just say you're planning a guys night out and ask the manager what he can do for you, free cover, bucket or bottle specials, VIP seating, etc. Personally I would call or go up there and talk to the manager and see what he can do for you.
[QUOTE=GMoney1012;3485499]I was at leggs lounge when it was raided many moons ago and I can't believe I'm not a senior member. With girls out side the club like Tuesdays, Bambi, and Miranda. I should write a book. But that's like 18 yrs ago. .[/QUOTE]Dam man that brings back memories had some good times there.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3485181]Tues I was offered bbbjs for 100 from 3 different girls. I may start coming here again.[/QUOTE]Take it at Bts Tycoons chick wanted 200.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;3484850]From what I've heard from one of my favorite dancers who's vanished from the club scene is the rate is on the high side, around $300 per private visit. Double the club rate but your getting more time, possibly private dances before the action begins. From what I've heard she no longer needs to show up to the club and pay all the tip outs, a few regulars and she's got a nice weekly paycheck. But the girl has to be pretty spectacular both in bed and in looks to keep getting weekly requests. As to what do you offer, I'd start with just getting a cell number first. That in itself will break the ice and allow you to negotiate OTC fun. Problem is these girls are used to fucking and being done and out of the VIP in 15 minutes, will they change that pattern when they visit your place? And if you've got a nice place with valuables you have to wonder if they are reporting what you have to their boyfriend or pimp for a future break in. Quick text from her to one of those guys that your in the club and your place is empty. Or do you book a hotel room and risk getting a no show? Too many risks involved, only with top tier talent would I consider doing OTC.[/QUOTE]Are the main reason dancers do outside parties. I've had about 20 dancers working for tips alone (and whatever they could generate in the VIP). I stopped the parties once I started my corporate job. Charge at the door and you might make a little money yourself. Word of advice, give the beer and the liquor away for free. Bake the cost into your door fee.
[QUOTE=GMoney1012;3485296]Get them to 75.00 at shift change!
Is there VIP room and cost for that?[/QUOTE]20 every time sucks and so does the 2 drink min they announced to me.
Has anyone heard about Club Venus getting raided last night? I heard it's shut down for good.
Word on the street is that the long dying venus is finally done. I guess they got raided last night and the idiot manager had a 17 yr old working there. The cops were killing that place over the last year and a half hard.