[QUOTE=Niteluvr;4318192]Always wonder if anyone has been able to fuck Amy there.[/QUOTE]OTC is considered a bonus with her, although her massage is outstanding.
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;4318192]Always wonder if anyone has been able to fuck Amy there.[/QUOTE]OTC is considered a bonus with her, although her massage is outstanding.
[QUOTE=Dgcesq;4318800] .6 house, 1.2 tip. Yes, more than advised here. But I thought I got more than I usually get, so I was happy paying a few bucks more. She promised FS next time. So we'll see.[/QUOTE]To each his own, but $60 and $120 here for CBJ or $70 and $100 at B Spa for HJ?
Like others have said, these places are FS joints. The expectation is FS for around $140 (gold spa the exception).
It's like ordering a salad at a steakhouse.
[QUOTE=SalesMan71;4318601]I've seen Amy and Mary there. Great massage and very happy ending. But never anything else, not any OTC even. In my book mini is the best place for the combo (massage + HE). I'd love to know any tricks to get more cause they are both the hottest around in my opinion.[/QUOTE]The tricks would have to be tried with Amy as I found out today that Mary has gone back to China for good; however, Wendy is back and I assume up to her old ways.
[QUOTE=Sasay1960;4318507]Any intel on this one? VIP Massage 5475 Buford Hwy.[/QUOTE]It's been reported on several times. Lots of upsell.
Is this place legit? Went years ago and a non-asian woman in scrubs massaged me very professionally. Went again a couple days ago, same manager with 2 older Chinese providers. My provider kept me covered from head to toe at all times but asked if it was my first time there twice. What's up with this place?
Well I have been to Mini many times, but went last week and drew what I thought was a new gal only to find out she had been there some time. It was Lisa, cute gal gave a good sensual light touch a ton of roaming and teasing. She did rebuff any attempts for OTC or UTC, but the teasing and HE were good.
[QUOTE=Garthie1;4319097]To each his own, but $60 and $120 here for CBJ or $70 and $100 at B Spa for HJ?
Like others have said, these places are FS joints. The expectation is FS for around $140 (gold spa the exception).
It's like ordering a salad at a steakhouse.[/QUOTE]So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.
I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.
In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.
[QUOTE=Dgcesq;4319327]I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick. In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.[/QUOTE]My real advice is to just go a CAMP if you want to pay less. If you want to enjoy the KAMP experience at JHS, isn't that worth the small difference between their standard fees and what you want to pay? It's not like they're asking some exorbitant amount. And know that many CAMP girls are quite skilled at upselling and squeezing additional funds out of you to upgrade beyond a standard HE.
[QUOTE=BigDaddyRob;4319210]Well I have been to Mini many times, but went last week and drew what I thought was a new gal only to find out she had been there some time. It was Lisa, cute gal gave a good sensual light touch a ton of roaming and teasing. She did rebuff any attempts for OTC or UTC, but the teasing and HE were good.[/QUOTE]Never heard of a Lisa at Mini. The ladies I know of are Wendy, Linda, Cici and Amy. The woman you got sounds exactly like Amy.
[QUOTE=Dgcesq;4319327]So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.
I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.
In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.[/QUOTE]Well, last time you said you paid $60/ house and $120/ CBJ. Since you can't negotiate the house fee, you can only negotiate extras such as the CBJ or CFS. A CBJ normally goes for $100 so you paid $20 too much last time. A few ladies (depends on the woman and the KAMP) will do a CBJ for $80 but that's rare now. For CFS, most will ask for $140-$160 but I always tell them I only have $120 and pull it out of my pocket. If they won't accept it, I'm prepared to walk. That said, you can "accidentally" find another $20 somewhere on your person if you really want the girl.
If you just want a massage and HJ, go to a CAMP.
[QUOTE=Dgcesq;4319327]So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.
I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.
In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.[/QUOTE]They'll always negotiate, I've haggled at Gold spa (premiere gold diggers) for the normal going rate of $140, but it was for 15 minutes and I knew it would be rushed, so I still walked.
The girls know the rate is 120 to 140. Give them more than that and they may give better service or they may not.
Myself and others like to tip more. The girls are usually more pleasant and service is generally better, but the girls may feel pressure (as they should) to do a better job.
In California, CAMP girls take 100 FS tip out the door every time. KAMP girls, usually a little more.
Alternatively, if the girls don't take the money upfront, you could be a dick and give 100 (or nothing) and just walk. It happens and there's nothing the girls can do. Don't expect to go back, though.
In the end, 70 and 150 isn't unreasonable and I'd pay it if the girl was nice. 220 out the door is what I expect (one hour at 80 and 140 FS), but again to each his own.
[QUOTE=Dgcesq;4319327]So I'm a guy who typically does 1, maybe 2 a year through p411. AMPsare new to me, so I am respectfully seeking advice.
I'd like to go back to the girl at JHS in 2 weeks. She's expecting. 7 + 1. 5 for whatever FS is in her mind. How do I adjust her thinking to. 5 house and $tip? Is in unrecoverable? If so, I'll just walk. And maybe I did a poor job when her hand was on my dick.
In any event, knowing jokes are coming, please give some real advice as well.[/QUOTE]Here's the thing about AMPs (specifically KAMPs; I don't do the CAMPs): service is going to vary from girl to girl independent of expenditure. Really, with the K-girls, it comes down to their personality and some level of chemistry you have with them (I speak subjectively, but based on having fucked literally hundreds and hundreds of them.).
So what you have to do is set an overall price you're willing to pay for room plus girl (I'd shoot for $220, $80 for the room and $140 for the girl), and then start prospecting.
My protocol for KAMPs has always been this:
1. Ask if there are multiple girls to choose from; if they demure, that's not your AMP. Sometimes they'll show you one girl, and if she looks good, of course you might want to go anyway, but ideally you want at least two girls to choose from. This is where experience comes in, but you want to choose a girl who is TRYING to appeal to you, like she doesn't look bored, she's smiling, and so on, and of course is physically attractive to you (for me, the skinnier and younger, the better).
2. Turn on the charm. Joke with her during the table shower, etc. You want to see how far she warms up. You're prospecting, so it doesn't hurt to make some effort for THIS to be the girl, so you can be a regular. That saves time and money. In the room, just indicate you want everything (that's usually how I phrase it). If she has an orgasm (for some reason the K-girls resist this, so it may take some insistence) and she likes you, done. She'll do almost anything from that point. Congratulations, you've found a gem (until she rotates out of Georgia).
3. Mostly, it will be a one-visit girl, but eventually you'll find one you want to see on occasion. Again, we're prospecting.
4. Understand that whatever you pay this girl at the outset is what you pay her ongoing. The only way you're getting a discount is if she likes you enough to fuck you for FREE (I've had this as Gold Spa, but it's rare). So you're really looking at a binary pricing model of "full price" or "free".
5. Tip: if you can get them to break a boundary, it goes a long way to expanding their service. I usually ask if there's something they don't do with customers, and then request they do it for me. Make it a funny challenge. It's usually kissing or BBBJ, but if you can get them to do THAT, it kind of opens the floodgates (and again, I'm asking about K-girls, not soulless C-girls). Of course, this is an manipulation tactic, so follow your own comfort level!
So, here's how the economics of this break down. If you find about 1/3 of girls to be "keepers", then ten good fuck sessions is something like three prospecting sessions, and then seven sessions with your gem; if you're paying $220, then that's $2200, or on average $275/ session with your fuck goddess. The more you fuck her, the more the average price converges with your preferred fee.
So it's worth establishing a lower fee *at the beginning*. I would probably try to negotiate with the *mamasan* on room fee, rather than with the provider on pussy access. If you can be a regular paying $60 for the room and $140 for the girl, that's a pretty good net fee. I wouldn't go higher than $240 ($80 room and $160 girl) in any case.
O.
So I went by Lilla's in Woodstock. I drew Monica very attractive. Started off with a towel between the legs then she asked if I mind if she removed it. Obviously I said go ahead. She gave a good massage but that's it! I was totally undraped for the whole massage. No teasing nothing! Even on the flip nothing! She just rub my body. I tried a few to times move her hand towards Jr. LOL she replied only massage. Anyone had any luck here? I think it's relatively new.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;4319620]Never heard of a Lisa at Mini. The ladies I know of are Wendy, Linda, Cici and Amy. The woman you got sounds exactly like Amy.[/QUOTE]Lisa is the one who replaced Mary. She has been there a couple of weeks since Mary left. She is older than Mary. Close to 50. Mary was 40 believe it or not. She has a spinner type body with nice fake tits. She worked at Lu and Asia in the past under the name Tina.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;4319795]Here's the thing about AMPs (specifically KAMPs; I don't do the CAMPs): service is going to vary from girl to girl independent of expenditure. Really, with the K-girls, it comes down to their personality and some level of chemistry you have with them (I speak subjectively, but based on having fucked literally hundreds and hundreds of them.).
So what you have to do is set an overall price you're willing to pay for room plus girl (I'd shoot for $220, $80 for the room and $140 for the girl), and then start prospecting.
My protocol for KAMPs has always been this:
1. Ask if there are multiple girls to choose from; if they demure, that's not your AMP. Sometimes they'll show you one girl, and if she looks good, of course you might want to go anyway, but ideally you want at least two girls to choose from. This is where experience comes in, but you want to choose a girl who is TRYING to appeal to you, like she doesn't look bored, she's smiling, and so on, and of course is physically attractive to you (for me, the skinnier and younger, the better).
2. Turn on the charm. Joke with her during the table shower, etc. You want to see how far she warms up. You're prospecting, so it doesn't hurt to make some effort for THIS to be the girl, so you can be a regular. That saves time and money. In the room, just indicate you want everything (that's usually how I phrase it). If she has an orgasm (for some reason the K-girls resist this, so it may take some insistence) and she likes you, done. She'll do almost anything from that point. Congratulations, you've found a gem (until she rotates out of Georgia).
3. Mostly, it will be a one-visit girl, but eventually you'll find one you want to see on occasion. Again, we're prospecting.
4. Understand that whatever you pay this girl at the outset is what you pay her ongoing. The only way you're getting a discount is if she likes you enough to fuck you for FREE (I've had this as Gold Spa, but it's rare). So you're really looking at a binary pricing model of "full price" or "free".
5. Tip: if you can get them to break a boundary, it goes a long way to expanding their service. I usually ask if there's something they don't do with customers, and then request they do it for me. Make it a funny challenge. It's usually kissing or BBBJ, but if you can get them to do THAT, it kind of opens the floodgates (and again, I'm asking about K-girls, not soulless C-girls). Of course, this is an manipulation tactic, so follow your own comfort level!
So, here's how the economics of this break down. If you find about 1/3 of girls to be "keepers", then ten good fuck sessions is something like three prospecting sessions, and then seven sessions with your gem; if you're paying $220, then that's $2200, or on average $275/ session with your fuck goddess. The more you fuck her, the more the average price converges with your preferred fee.
So it's worth establishing a lower fee *at the beginning*. I would probably try to negotiate with the *mamasan* on room fee, rather than with the provider on pussy access. If you can be a regular paying $60 for the room and $140 for the girl, that's a pretty good net fee. I wouldn't go higher than $240 ($80 room and $160 girl) in any case.
O.[/QUOTE]Great advice. Thanks.