"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Wolfish1;5587151]Chatted with this one, wants to keep talking on sa until she's comfortable to give her number. She has it as being a teacher, which is one of my bucket list items.

Any one encountered or sampled her before?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d3242055-0744-449c-8e97-7528316bf683[/URL][/QUOTE]She wants to be courted and have her mind stimulated first? This is most likely code for she is going to try and have you send her money without any personal interaction.

I'm telling you. I could create a fake profile on SA, have more than one picture of the same woman, tease and say stupid shit to some dude, and get them to send me money no problem, that is the level of dopeyness I see on this board. I could rake in plenty of weekend beer money to keep me happy for a long time with minimal effort. Which is what I think is most likely already happening to the suckers that fall for this stuff.

This seems too good to be true?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/569925b3-c606-4eb0-91a5-23c54ed6def5[/URL]

[QUOTE=LovePunnany;5587932]This seems too good to be true?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/569925b3-c606-4eb0-91a5-23c54ed6def5[/URL][/QUOTE]Well if it's seems too good, generally it is. Why don't you TOFTT and report back.

[QUOTE=WoodstockShane;5587511]She wants to be courted and have her mind stimulated first? This is most likely code for she is going to try and have you send her money without any personal interaction.

I'm telling you. I could create a fake profile on SA, have more than one picture of the same woman, tease and say stupid shit to some dude, and get them to send me money no problem, that is the level of dopeyness I see on this board. I could rake in plenty of weekend beer money to keep me happy for a long time with minimal effort. Which is what I think is most likely already happening to the suckers that fall for this stuff.[/QUOTE]Agree brother, she hasn't asked for any yet, but no play no pay.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4e7abd1-ee3b-48b4-9476-63231e61e0e1[/URL]

Anyone have info on her? I've been talking with her but can't get her to say what allowance she is wanting and don't want to screw myself over by going way over. She seems a little flakey but I dig her look.

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;5587205]Ashlyn123 - no interaction with her but had noticed the picture show up on two different profiles so thought maybe it was a scammer. How did you verify she's real?

Piperrose222 - actively talking to her. We started talking a while back but she fell off the radar then just popped back up the other day. Haven't gotten a pro vibe though. Originally she said her SD recently moved away. They did hotel meetups for 350-500 ppm once a week. She had a limited availability due to work but that may have changed. Trying to meet her in the next day or two.[/QUOTE]Iam talking to piper and like to scheduled to meet as well. She did say 350-500. Can you share the two profiles for ashlyn? She is real. Agree to meet for coffee. Just firm on 500 for arrangement. Would you pay if she is real?

I can't find the second profile and it may not even be there any longer. I like her look a lot and had favorited her and then saw that same pic on a new profile that I hadn't looked at before. Sounding like she's real though and if she looks.

That good in person I'd probably pay.

[QUOTE=StayActive;5588321]Iam talking to piper and like to scheduled to meet as well. She did say 350-500. Can you share the two profiles for ashlyn? She is real. Agree to meet for coffee. Just firm on 500 for arrangement. Would you pay if she is real?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jims2321;5588049]Well if it's seems too good, generally it is. Why don't you TOFTT and report back.[/QUOTE]I certainly will.

[QUOTE=DArrow404;5588132][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4e7abd1-ee3b-48b4-9476-63231e61e0e1[/URL]

Anyone have info on her? I've been talking with her but can't get her to say what allowance she is wanting and don't want to screw myself over by going way over. She seems a little flakey but I dig her look.[/QUOTE]I got her number but still nothing about $$.

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;5588478]I can't find the second profile and it may not even be there any longer. I like her look a lot and had favorited her and then saw that same pic on a new profile that I hadn't looked at before. Sounding like she's real though and if she looks.

That good in person I'd probably pay.[/QUOTE]I will let you know. Meeting her for coffee in couple of days. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on pay as well. I asked that because I saw bunch of other posts from other mongers not paying more than 300. Etc. Might be true for them if the girl likes you etc like everything in life it's not fair!!

Hi.

I am new to this part of the game. I had a few questions, how long in time does a ppm usually run? Is it understood what's going to happen or am I saying it? If I can find someone, not crazy in allowance, fun and twice a month. I am happy guy.

[QUOTE=TriplXXX;5586636]Guy, you produce the best reviews / comments on the Board. Big respect. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Just trying to add whatever details I can, with enough honesty as I can muster. I also try to keep down the "anyone seen. Anyone seen. " garbage.

Staying Frosty as always.

[QUOTE=AHappyGuyAtl;5588819]Hi.

I am new to this part of the game. I had a few questions, how long in time does a ppm usually run? Is it understood what's going to happen or am I saying it? If I can find someone, not crazy in allowance, fun and twice a month. I am happy guy.[/QUOTE]Lots of women on SA don't have a set time for your meetings. Many of them treat it as a date. For instance, if you take a sugar baby to dinner, and its been agreed upon that you're planning on some sexy time, that is assumed to be part of your "meeting". I've had dates with sugar babies last as short as two hours, to as long as 5-8 hours, with the occasional overnight. If you find someone on SA charging strictly by the hour, you know she's basically an escort. For me, that's not why I'm on that site. You'll have to spend some time talking to, messaging with, and perhaps having a few casual meet and greets to check compatibility (Nothing paid to her over and above the cost of drinks / food etc). It can get tedious, but it can be well worth the upfront effort on your part.

Stay frosty dude.

[QUOTE=Plisknoob1;5588685]I got her number but still nothing about $$.[/QUOTE]I tried some more to get her to give a range etc but she wouldn't only that "her price is higher than others". So threw out 400 with no real intention of going through with it. She said that wasn't enough. GPS confirmed. Amazes me that she is expecting that. It's not like she's in her early 20's with a fantastic body. Anyway time to move on.

[QUOTE=AHappyGuyAtl;5588819]Hi.

I am new to this part of the game. I had a few questions, how long in time does a ppm usually run? Is it understood what's going to happen or am I saying it? If I can find someone, not crazy in allowance, fun and twice a month. I am happy guy.[/QUOTE]I've had some last 2-4 hours, some last less than 45 minutes (when that happened I never bothered to see her again), and the occasional overnight.

Although there are some actual "pros" and "escorts" on the site, a lot of the real girls on there aren't familiar with the escort business, and so aren't used to thinking about things in terms of time. Once I've developed a rapport with a baby (and established they're real) I'll start by asking what type of arrangement they're comfortable with. Once they tell you what they want (weekly, monthly, ppm), I'll agree that I'm looking for the same, but I think it's important to develop trust and establish chemistry. Depending on how they respond I'll generally guide the conversation to a point whey they agree with the "develop trust etc" statement, and then I ask them when they'd be available to meet. Assuming I've done a good job earlier developing a good rapport with them they'll normally say something like "tomorrow" or "this Saturday" or whatever.

Once we nail down a day and time, I ask them if they can host. This is usually the crux of the entire conversation, not because of how they answer, but because it establishes you're looking to meet in private. If they say sure, then I'll ask what they're comfortably with sexually, furthering driving home the point that this is a hookup, not just a meet and greet. At that point normally they'll bring up donation amount and I'll negotiate that.

On the other hand, if they say they can't host because of XYZ (roommate, kids, whatever) then I ask are they comfortable meeting directly at a hotel or would they rather grab a coffee or drink first. If they say they can meet at the hotel, then I move the conversation back to what they enjoy sexually, again, to establish that we will be fucking. If they want coffee or a drink first, I ask where they'd like to meet up at. Sometimes this will get them to ask about $, which I reply that although I will happily pay for coffee or drinks to establish chemistry, I can only pay $ once we've established intimacy. If she balks at this point, I normally wish them a good day and move on to the next one, but more often than not if you offer to pay for coffee and meet them to make sure they're comfortable, they will agree to meet for coffee or that drink. Once they've agreed to coffee, I'll ask them what they would like to do if we hit it off and they want to move forward with the arrangement. If they say they'll move forward if coffee goes well, then I ask them what they are comfortable with sexually and go through the process I repeated earlier.

There's no trick here. Just be polite, ask them what they are comfortable with, and lead them towards the inevitable conclusion that this meet up will include sex. Once they establish they are comfortable with that and you've established when to meet, ask them what else they are doing that day, since you want to be considerate of their time. Normally they'll mention "Oh, I have a babysitter and can only meet a couple of hours" or "I have to be done by 4 pm to go into work" or whatever their timeline is. This is great because instead of asking "how long we fucking" which is going to turn a lot of women off and make them feel used, you're focusing on THEIR needs and are being considerate of their time. If they seem to want to put a really short time limit on things, punt the ball and mention it sounds like they are super busy that day, and maybe you guys should meet up on a day when they aren't quite so pressed for time.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5589613]I've had some last 2-4 hours, some last less than 45 minutes (when that happened I never bothered to see her again), and the occasional overnight.

Although there are some actual "pros" and "escorts" on the site, a lot of the real girls on there aren't familiar with the escort business, and so aren't used to thinking about things in terms of time. Once I've developed a rapport with a baby (and established they're real) I'll start by asking what type of arrangement they're comfortable with. Once they tell you what they want (weekly, monthly, ppm), I'll agree that I'm looking for the same, but I think it's important to develop trust and establish chemistry. Depending on how they respond I'll generally guide the conversation to a point whey they agree with the "develop trust etc" statement, and then I ask them when they'd be available to meet. Assuming I've done a good job earlier developing a good rapport with them they'll normally say something like "tomorrow" or "this Saturday" or whatever.

Once we nail down a day and time, I ask them if they can host. This is usually the crux of the entire conversation, not because of how they answer, but because it establishes you're looking to meet in private. If they say sure, then I'll ask what they're comfortably with sexually, furthering driving home the point that this is a hookup, not just a meet and greet. At that point normally they'll bring up donation amount and I'll negotiate that.

On the other hand, if they say they can't host because of XYZ (roommate, kids, whatever) then I ask are they comfortable meeting directly at a hotel or would they rather grab a coffee or drink first. If they say they can meet at the hotel, then I move the conversation back to what they enjoy sexually, again, to establish that we will be fucking. If they want coffee or a drink first, I ask where they'd like to meet up at. Sometimes this will get them to ask about $, which I reply that although I will happily pay for coffee or drinks to establish chemistry, I can only pay $ once we've established intimacy. If she balks at this point, I normally wish them a good day and move on to the next one, but more often than not if you offer to pay for coffee and meet them to make sure they're comfortable, they will agree to meet for coffee or that drink. Once they've agreed to coffee, I'll ask them what they would like to do if we hit it off and they want to move forward with the arrangement. If they say they'll move forward if coffee goes well, then I ask them what they are comfortable with sexually and go through the process I repeated earlier.[/QUOTE]You are 100% on point with this. Always make them comfortable, even if you already know they are a "pro", it works in your favor, just don't be the guy loaning money a week later and never hearing from her again. Anytime they ask for something after the first meet always ask, Whats in it for me? And makes sure it's in your favor financially.

This is a really excellent post.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5589613]I've had some last 2-4 hours, some last less than 45 minutes (when that happened I never bothered to see her again), and the occasional overnight.

Although there are some actual "pros" and "escorts" on the site, a lot of the real girls on there aren't familiar with the escort business, and so aren't used to thinking about things in terms of time. Once I've developed a rapport with a baby (and established they're real) I'll start by asking what type of arrangement they're comfortable with. Once they tell you what they want (weekly, monthly, ppm), I'll agree that I'm looking for the same, but I think it's important to develop trust and establish chemistry. Depending on how they respond I'll generally guide the conversation to a point whey they agree with the "develop trust etc" statement, and then I ask them when they'd be available to meet. Assuming I've done a good job earlier developing a good rapport with them they'll normally say something like "tomorrow" or "this Saturday" or whatever.

Once we nail down a day and time, I ask them if they can host. This is usually the crux of the entire conversation, not because of how they answer, but because it establishes you're looking to meet in private. If they say sure, then I'll ask what they're comfortably with sexually, furthering driving home the point that this is a hookup, not just a meet and greet. At that point normally they'll bring up donation amount and I'll negotiate that.

On the other hand, if they say they can't host because of XYZ (roommate, kids, whatever) then I ask are they comfortable meeting directly at a hotel or would they rather grab a coffee or drink first. If they say they can meet at the hotel, then I move the conversation back to what they enjoy sexually, again, to establish that we will be fucking. If they want coffee or a drink first, I ask where they'd like to meet up at. Sometimes this will get them to ask about $, which I reply that although I will happily pay for coffee or drinks to establish chemistry, I can only pay $ once we've established intimacy. If she balks at this point, I normally wish them a good day and move on to the next one, but more often than not if you offer to pay for coffee and meet them to make sure they're comfortable, they will agree to meet for coffee or that drink. Once they've agreed to coffee, I'll ask them what they would like to do if we hit it off and they want to move forward with the arrangement. If they say they'll move forward if coffee goes well, then I ask them what they are comfortable with sexually and go through the process I repeated earlier.

There's no trick here. Just be polite, ask them what they are comfortable with, and lead them towards the inevitable conclusion that this meet up will include sex. Once they establish they are comfortable with that and you've established when to meet, ask them what else they are doing that day, since you want to be considerate of their time. Normally they'll mention "Oh, I have a babysitter and can only meet a couple of hours" or "I have to be done by 4 pm to go into work" or whatever their timeline is. This is great because instead of asking "how long we fucking" which is going to turn a lot of women off and make them feel used, you're focusing on THEIR needs and are being considerate of their time. If they seem to want to put a really short time limit on things, punt the ball and mention it sounds like they are super busy that day, and maybe you guys should meet up on a day when they aren't quite so pressed for time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DArrow404;5589333]I tried some more to get her to give a range etc but she wouldn't only that "her price is higher than others". So threw out 400 with no real intention of going through with it. She said that wasn't enough. GPS confirmed. Amazes me that she is expecting that. It's not like she's in her early 20's with a fantastic body. Anyway time to move on.[/QUOTE]She told me 500.

[QUOTE=Plisknoob1;5589650]She told me 500.[/QUOTE]What's funny is I even offered lets meet up to discuss and worst case you get a free nice meal out of it. However, she refused saying she's too busy. LOL. 400 and she's too busy but 500 is ok. Hmm.

Last time in the bowl, over the course of a month I sorted through six POTs, sex with 5, weekend m / g with one. She was the keeper, it's been more than a year. Never paid more than 250, none asked for ppm in advance, none required more than a couple of days chatting to set up the first date, and of the 5 who ended up in the sack, 4 were single moms who wanted to be appreciated. Be nice, get to the point without being vulgar. And I recommend keep the age over 25. Younger than that and the BS factor goes up exponentially.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5589613]I've had some last 2-4 hours, some last less than 45 minutes (when that happened I never bothered to see her again), and the occasional overnight... you're focusing on THEIR needs and are being considerate of their time. If they seem to want to put a really short time limit on things, punt the ball and mention it sounds like they are super busy that day, and maybe you guys should meet up on a day when they aren't quite so pressed for time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hal1957;5590534]Last time in the bowl, over the course of a month I sorted through six POTs, sex with 5, weekend m / g with one. She was the keeper, it's been more than a year. Never paid more than 250, none asked for ppm in advance, none required more than a couple of days chatting to set up the first date, and of the 5 who ended up in the sack, 4 were single moms who wanted to be appreciated. Be nice, get to the point without being vulgar. And I recommend keep the age over 25. Younger than that and the BS factor goes up exponentially.[/QUOTE]A lot of single moms on the site who if you treat good will bend over backwards for you. A lot of them have dealt with looser's who donated some sperm & then dropped out of sight. I've had a few arrangements with single moms were if I asked them to become a full time girlfriend & move in with me they would have. It's not always about the money with some of these women, treat them good & you will reap the rewards.

Amber.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/095c1ec8-9880-4e74-ad11-130a2bccff9b[/URL]

Thought I'd save some of you the trouble, she's only looking to sell content and direct you to her Olyfans. If you can, please report her so we can get her off the site and somewhere more appropriate for her goals.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;5590909]A lot of single moms on the site who if you treat good will bend over backwards for you. A lot of them have dealt with looser's who donated some sperm & then dropped out of sight. I've had a few arrangements with single moms were if I asked them to become a full time girlfriend & move in with me they would have. It's not always about the money with some of these women, treat them good & you will reap the rewards.[/QUOTE]I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.

[QUOTE=DArrow404;5590955]I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.[/QUOTE]I've seen single moms and I've seen no kids girls. The single moms have been better 80-90% of the time. Even having to schedule around the kids, they have at least tiny bit of organization skills because they are managing their kid. The young girls with no kids are like herding cats. They are talking to you, their FwB, and some random tinder dude while also deciding whether or not they can see you before or after their BFFs party. You'd think no kids girls would be simpler, but in my experience they are way harder to pin down. I'm not saying unicorns don't exist, but it's rare.

Single moms, the best bet is if they live near enough to their parents they can just drop off kids before seeing you, or if they have a friendly enough relationship with Dad or joint custody, then you just schedule your visits when the kid is away. Even then, them hosting is not always guaranteed, but at this point I just budget hotel expenses into any arrangement I have, and if they end up being able to host that's a bonus. And as you mentioned, seeing them after kids are in bed works well, though the occasional "seeing mommy drilled from behind by a guy I don't know" incident is bound to happen. If the kids young enough they won't remember, and if they're old enough to remember their old enough to know better. Hopefully you learned to lock the bedroom door in the future (assuming the door does lock).

[QUOTE=DArrow404;5590955]I generally have avoided the ones with kids as it just complicates things with scheduling etc in my experience. Though I did see one single mom whose kid was 5 or so and she would host. I would come over in the evening usually as she was putting the kid to bed. So he usually never saw me. Though he did wake up once at night, open the door and walked in seeing me taking his mom doggy style LOL.

For those who have seen single moms with young children (under 10, no 50/50), were they willing to host even if the kid was there? I assume this isn't common but maybe I'm wrong or maybe they are willing after a visit or two when they are comfortable.[/QUOTE]I'm single so I can host, but I'd imagine after they are comfortable with you using their bed shouldn't be an issue. Especially if you have them on allowance vs. Ppm. You can tell them look I'm paying for the apartment, & they can't really argue with that. If they have kids then you have to be a bit flexible with their schedule.

It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?

[QUOTE=Apollo007;5591064]It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?[/QUOTE]The most I have ever paid is $400, & that was to a girl who if she wouldn't have been 4'9 & instead 5'5 would have been a 9. 5.

If I get quoted $600 then I pass, or come back at them with a more lower $ amount.

[QUOTE=DArrow404;5589686]What's funny is I even offered lets meet up to discuss and worst case you get a free nice meal out of it. However, she refused saying she's too busy. LOL. 400 and she's too busy but 500 is ok. Hmm.[/QUOTE]She definitely has one of the worst cases of "Fellatio won't fill the hole in your soul" that I have ever met in a human.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;55910187]Especially if you have them on allowance vs. Ppm.[/QUOTE]How many of you have actually paid an allowance instead of ppm? I haven't so far, but wouldn't be opposed if it is someone that was really great and really trusted. That single mom I had saw; I would have considered it but she moved away.

Also, for those who have done the allowance did you get any extra perks, discount etc.

I've always locked the door. Whether I'm meeting someone single, living alone, and no sign of anyone. But especially if there are others!

What I want to know is what did the mom do? Did she pull away and hide behind the sheets or something? Or did she just keep on banging the dick?.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5591010]I've seen single moms and I've seen no kids girls. The single moms have been better 80-90% of the time. Even having to schedule around the kids, they have at least tiny bit of organization skills because they are managing their kid. The young girls with no kids are like herding cats. They are talking to you, their FwB, and some random tinder dude while also deciding whether or not they can see you before or after their BFFs party. You'd think no kids girls would be simpler, but in my experience they are way harder to pin down. I'm not saying unicorns don't exist, but it's rare.

Single moms, the best bet is if they live near enough to their parents they can just drop off kids before seeing you, or if they have a friendly enough relationship with Dad or joint custody, then you just schedule your visits when the kid is away. Even then, them hosting is not always guaranteed, but at this point I just budget hotel expenses into any arrangement I have, and if they end up being able to host that's a bonus. And as you mentioned, seeing them after kids are in bed works well, though the occasional "seeing mommy drilled from behind by a guy I don't know" incident is bound to happen. If the kids young enough they won't remember, and if they're old enough to remember their old enough to know better. Hopefully you learned to lock the bedroom door in the future (assuming the door does lock).[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3f174b0e-6d97-45ca-b4f2-286cbcd2b1d2[/URL]

Anyone have info on her? I'm thinking she's a scammer as she has already given me the line about needing gas money. Smh. I was hoping I'd finally found a legit sub 5' spinner. Does anyone get suspicious when the person you're talking with has never viewed your profile? I know premium members can turn that notification off but most SBs don't have premium.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;5591377]The most I have ever paid is $400, & that was to a girl who if she wouldn't have been 4'9 & instead 5'5 would have been a 9. 5.

If I get quoted $600 then I pass, or come back at them with a more lower $ amount.[/QUOTE]I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.

I think all of us have heard absurd $$$ requests in the sugar bowl. But I have come to the conclusion it is all about timing and circumstance. If you are talking finances and per meet amounts with one of these girls within the first 1 or 2 communication exchanges you have a higher likelihood of getting hit with a rack rate. For instance, the rack rate for a sleazy roach Motel might be 250 per night but who the heck is paying that? A monger that has signed up for a rewards program or knows how to get good deals online or plans sessions in advance would never. But a monger in desperation mode might bite the rack rate bullet. My opinion is that women, as a method of survival instinct, can sniff out a monger in desperation mode a mile away. Or sometimes these girls are just rate shopping and seeing their own market value. They have Monger A on the hook for a Friday date at 400. Monger B shows up on Thursday in the inbox requesting her time on Friday so she throws 600 out to see if she will get a bite to dump Monger A.

It pays to have a good rotation already in place so you can slow cook some of these girls and work the charm. The prices go down tremendously if you are willing to invest time. But time is money and some mongers throw out big money to save their time. Ripper.

[QUOTE=Apollo007;5591064]It seems that is the going rate (or more) for ppm for the top-of-the-line babes on SB. That's just too much for one session to me.

They booted me off SA a while back so I've actually gotten pretty good at weeding through the fake profiles on SB. Anyway, is there a good way of getting the 9+ babes down on these rates or do I just have to keep digging or pay the rate?

Are you guys running into this as well?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5593058]I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]Same here, I honestly can't believe I can have a 23 year old 105 lb spinner, come to my house & fuck me bareback for $200.

$200-300 is the standard ppm I've seen since moving to Atlanta 2 years ago. I've only had a few girls quote me more than $400 but most of them just throw that # out there hoping you agree to it. The lowest I had was a girl I had on allowance for 6 months for $500 per month, I saw her 3-4 X a month.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5593058]I'm hitting pretty high quality babes at around the $300 mark just fine, and hitting what I would call "girl next door" single moms for $200. Sure, I do talk to some that want $400 or $500 initially, but I either charm / negotiate with them down to $300, or I move on. There's plenty of sugar in the bowl to be had, and if one 9/10 girl won't take $300, there's another 9/10 girl that will. Just have to be patient, stay on the charm offensive, and be willing to move on. I had one 24 year old gorgeous girl who wanted $500 PPM and wouldn't budge for weeks, but I kept in touch, continued to be funny and charming, and eventually either she had a bill due, really wanted some dick, or was just curious enough to see me at $300. That's only happened once, normally I can get them down during the initial negotiations or I wish them luck and move on.

However, I will say the time investment to secure a 9/10 hottie to a reasonable level is not worth it, when I can get a perfectly good 7 or 8/10 girl for way less time, effort, and $. And so far, those girls have been better in the sack. The prettiest ones just don't seem as enthusiastic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;5593491]Same here, I honestly can't believe I can have a 23 year old 105 lb spinner, come to my house & fuck me bareback for $200.

$200-300 is the standard ppm I've seen since moving to Atlanta 2 years ago. I've only had a few girls quote me more than $400 but most of them just throw that # out there hoping you agree to it. The lowest I had was a girl I had on allowance for 6 months for $500 per month, I saw her 3-4 X a month.[/QUOTE]I don't believe either of you. You should post some examples 😁.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/362477b8-2b44-4968-b708-266b700b859d[/URL]

Anyone have experience with her? She's ready to go.

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;5593895][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/362477b8-2b44-4968-b708-266b700b859d[/URL]

Anyone have experience with her? She's ready to go.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen her, but if you can get her to send over a verification pic I think she's legit. Her profile is a few years old, someone would've reported her and got her banned by new if she were a scammer. What figure is she looking for?

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;5593895][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/362477b8-2b44-4968-b708-266b700b859d[/URL]

Anyone have experience with her? She's ready to go.[/QUOTE]She has posted as an escort on an adult site pre-COVID. Same applies to some of the other ladies posting as sugar babes on [URL]seeking.com[/URL].

I'm happy to share my thoughts and experiences with any SB in the CHS area for those traveling. I have my favs which I tend to keep on the DL. Ask for the same in return as I do come to ATL. Shoot me a PM.

This profile may already be down but in case not and the person behind it blocked me avoid this. Profile pic comes up on reverse image search as Melody Katt, a Canadian pornstar. I didn't do the search right away but talked to her for a while. Their responses were always just a little off. Set up a meeting and she invited me directly to her place. I asked for public meeting which she agreed to. Asked for more pics and that's what confirmed it was fake. Dumb scammer. I reported it on SA.