Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

I'm pretty sure the females that ask for prepayments get off on the thought of getting free money knowing they won't honor their word.

Also, I don't understand. If they are not getting business then why they are not making it easier for guys to see them? They could have less draconian screening rules (come on, they ask to send them a photo of your id) Or they could do specials or they could do outcalls just to give some examples.
I just got my appointment canceled without even an attempt to reschedule.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]

I've had this happen quite a bit. The worst was about three years ago when I met a hot young tiny spinner and she did everything I wanted but for a little extra $$$ (I like it bare). Was actually a good no-rushed date. The second time she hit me up and I agreed to meet, when I got to her room she literally said, "you got 10 minutes". 10 minutes, what the hell? We had a pretty serious argument over that one. Wasn't even worth the drive over. Then she started contacting me and asking for Uber rides, groceries, all that stuff. I got pissed and really let her have it. I asked her why her pimp wasn't taking care of that stuff, LOL. So, I started contacting her and asking if she'd see me for our usual date for less than $100. I told her that I saw her just standing there on the street, if she weren't doing anything she might as well make even just [I]some[/I] money, right? Money is money afterall. And hey, If she could ask me to just buy her stuff for nothing in return then I could certainly ask her for a deep discount whenever I wanted. Fair is fair. She did stop contacting me pretty quickly.

A couple of other gals contact me and do the "I need your help. Are you around?". Unless there is a discount offered I don't usually respond to those.

[QUOTE=Massaji;7179812]Just curious: What do you guys usually do when some girls start hitting you up because they need money? When I was first starting out I was way too naive and gave a girl some cash because I figured it would help her be more enthusiastic to meet. Turned out it meant nothing to her and she would flake on me for my trouble. Learned my lesson and these days I'll usually ignore the messages or remind them this is a quid pro quo relationship. They're so quick to remind us of the fact when the roles are reversed anyway LOL. It's a turn off for me now when they're basically begging, plus I've heard nearly every excuse in the book now it's like a script: I need rent, need to book my room, my cars in the shop, dog is in vet, can't cover my uber, boo fucking hoo. Now if it's a girl I like I got to go over there and smash even if I'm not horny at the time otherwise you're paying an advance deposit that I assume she usually won't honor because let's face it most of them have shit memory. Just ranting because I've had a few regulars recently hitting me up for $$ on the daily again and I don't know where they get off. Thinking I got a little soft over time. This new gen of girls don't know I only give outside advances for no limit meets.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7180185]I'm pretty sure the females that ask for prepayments get off on the thought of getting free money knowing they won't honor their word.

Also, I don't understand. If they are not getting business then why they are not making it easier for guys to see them? They could have less draconian screening rules (come on, they ask to send them a photo of your id) Or they could do specials or they could do outcalls just to give some examples.
I just got my appointment canceled without even an attempt to reschedule.[/QUOTE]There are many, many things they could do to improve both service and client retention.

Unfortunately, they are not about to do anything but less. For more. How some of them have any customers at all is completely beyond me. The classically defined prostitute is all but extinct it seems.

Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7180853]Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL][/QUOTE]She has been around quite a while and has always been like this. Always provided minimal service. Always pricing herself 100-300 above the rest. Always complaining about hobbyists and lack of business. I don't know how she has ever had any business at all.

[QUOTE=RocketMan3;7180853]Bit of read but on the first page CompanionEstella tries to explain how it so hard to be profitable in Seattle as an independent. Then there is some back and forth on pricing is too high for hobbyists.

But as for CE, did you think that the reason your not getting as many clients is because your asking 600 an hr!

I still would not see her, not my type but 600 is an auto pass for me. Not to mention, way hotter girls in town are asking 500. Read the room! Lower your prices.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/what-happened-to-local-girls.2979334/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wanker23;7181384]She has been around quite a while and has always been like this. Always provided minimal service. Always pricing herself 100-300 above the rest. Always complaining about hobbyists and lack of business. I don't know how she has ever had any business at all.[/QUOTE]Estella is a prime example of not-good-at-anything-except-being-a-wh**e. Estella has been around for a very long time and, like Clara Turing, they act like they know everything about the hobby and are very "upscale," but they fail in life and can't do anything except get turned out. For someone who prides herself on being educated and having such a high opinion about herself, she will always end up being a wh**e. You would think that someone like her would've snagged a sugar daddy by now, but who the fuck would want to spend time with a stuck up wh**e like her? Sure, she'll claim how she's independent and doesn't need a man to take care of her, but I think everyone on the board who has ever interacted with her will agree that no one would want to be around her for over an hour.

Jeez, even AMP girls eventually get out of the hobby.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;7181565]Estella is a prime example of not-good-at-anything-except-being-a-wh**e. Estella has been around for a very long time and, like Clara Turing, they act like they know everything about the hobby and are very "upscale," but they fail in life and can't do anything except get turned out. For someone who prides herself on being educated and having such a high opinion about herself, she will always end up being a wh**e. You would think that someone like her would've snagged a sugar daddy by now, but who the fuck would want to spend time with a stuck up wh**e like her? Sure, she'll claim how she's independent and doesn't need a man to take care of her, but I think everyone on the board who has ever interacted with her will agree that no one would want to be around her for over an hour.

Jeez, even AMP girls eventually get out of the hobby.[/QUOTE]Estella is essentially the somewhat easier to tolerate kid-sister version of Lauren Riley, who thankfully unfurled her leathery wings and flew away from the Pacific Northwest years ago.

Some relatively hot chick from the other place quoted me 400 for a hh, or an hour "special" for 500. I ghosted.

This is the only way guys, refuse to pay these ridiculous rates.

Supply and demand. Let's face it, cash is and will become harder to be on supply and we can live without hobby if it's not reasonable priced. Since cash is hard to get for everybody, I can see an increment of pussy supply. They cannot live without cash so it seems highly probable prices will come down.

[QUOTE=GreenCandles;7182397]Some relatively hot chick from the other place quoted me 400 for a hh, or an hour "special" for 500. I ghosted.

This is the only way guys, refuse to pay these ridiculous rates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7182433]Supply and demand. Let's face it, cash is and will become harder to be on supply and we can live without hobby if it's not reasonable priced. Since cash is hard to get for everybody, I can see an increment of pussy supply. They cannot live without cash so it seems highly probable prices will come down.[/QUOTE]I hate to be that guy that talks about the "old days", but you used to get much better service for less than half the price of now adays. Most these hoes are disgusting and provide the worst service ever with terrible fake long nasty fake nails.

I'll pony up for ones I know are actually good at what they do, otherwise, nah.

[QUOTE=MyNickname;7182433]Supply and demand. Let's face it, cash is and will become harder to be on supply and we can live without hobby if it's not reasonable priced. Since cash is hard to get for everybody, I can see an increment of pussy supply. They cannot live without cash so it seems highly probable prices will come down.[/QUOTE]"They cannot live without cash so it seems highly probable prices will come down" HAHHAHAH. Been seeing this cope for so many years now. Prices will never come down from where they currently are. Ever. Just like the grocery prices. The gas prices. It's all been reset higher. It's going to always be this way. Inflation isn't going down and neither are these girls rents. You need to make more money.

Many of the good service, beautiful and fit provider are now UTR busy with their regulars at the old prices. I know because I'm still filling up everything bb at 250 providers I have been seeing since 2005.

Even those UTR will have to start advertising again because their afluent tech hobbyists are being lay off.

[QUOTE=GreenCandles;7182462]I hate to be that guy that talks about the "old days", but you used to get much better service for less than half the price of now adays. Most these hoes are disgusting and provide the worst service ever with terrible fake long nasty fake nails.

I'll pony up for ones I know are actually good at what they do, otherwise, nah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenCandles;7182397]Some relatively hot chick from the other place quoted me 400 for a hh, or an hour "special" for 500. I ghosted.

This is the only way guys, refuse to pay these ridiculous rates.[/QUOTE]Don't ghost. Tell them why you are passing. Do it politely but let them know so they don't think you are just being a flake.

[QUOTE=Wanker23;7181384]She has been around quite a while and has always been like this. Always provided minimal service. Always pricing herself 100-300 above the rest. Always complaining about hobbyists and lack of business. I don't know how she has ever had any business at all.[/QUOTE]I guess this is the ultimate in YMMV. Been seeing her going on almost 14 years now. Only raised rates once on me and we've always been friendly. Nowadays, a session with her lasting at least an hour for me is 400. I say at least an hour as in, I go over and there's no charge, we've even had overnights at that rate before when I'm her last client of the day. I will say that when I first saw her, she did have a bitchy attitude but back then she got me going back with her anything goes sessions.

I've got to say that although the GPS board is an ever-evolving hot mess, the media tab on each lady's profile page is quite helpful. Since it presents a gallery of their photos, I'm able to check out many of them at once and quickly make a decision about whether or not someone is of interest. Some of the photos are very nice. But never in one place have I seen so many scowling, potential serial killer expressionless gazes that remind me of Pam Grier in Fort Apache. The Bronx.

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