Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=JeepThang234;3461565]Landing Strip is owned by Subi and Alan ownes Penthouse, FLight Club and Coli.[/QUOTE]Who owns BP Tycoons.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;3461496]I heard from a former Penthouse stripper that PH has been sold to some mid eastern business group and they plan to convert it into a black girl club which is why it was closed in last week of June. Not sure if she was lying or not. Has anybody been to PH in last few days?[/QUOTE]I heard they were closed do to an LE raid.

[QUOTE=Sparkeyman;3461990]Not that it matters but the Penthouse empire went bankrupt several years ago about 5 years or so before Bob Guccione died. Wouldn't surprise me that what is left of it is still selling off parts of itself. Just another business that the Web killed off.[/QUOTE]Alan has owned that bar since day one.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3460845]Have you been to the FC lately for day shift?[/QUOTE]Yes, about 3 weeks ago, in the mid afternoon like 2:00 PM. On a Thursday. A lot of girls working, but the VIP was very hit and miss. Eventually succeeded but it took several rejects to get there.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3459123]They (Subi's) need to knock the Playhouse down and build a new bar. That bar is just too damn small.[/QUOTE]Or another way to look at it is, from a single vantage point you can see the entire place, which can be useful. The area already has its share of mega-bars anyway (PHC, FC, LS, Coli, Legends).

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3460840]This is a red flag for me, the only reason a dancer gets stiffed is because she gave poor service. I never pay upfront (even half the money) or put any money on the table.[/QUOTE]Every time I've paid in advance I've regretted it. I've never had a girl who asked for the money up front do a decent job. The best girls haven't even asked how much I was going to pay, of course I'm known in Bogies and H8's. I've turned right around and walked out when they've asked for the money first. Ha ha, once at Bogies the girl was explaining the deal to the bouncer while I was leaving. Then a few minutes later I was back with another girl.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3460832]Monday before 3, that's not going to be easy for you to find talent. The Penthouse Club or The Coliseum will be your best bet.[/QUOTE]Anything I need to know? Mandatory valet, VIP fees, cover?

I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Biggjake;3464382]I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If she's new to SCs then I would take her to Player's. The Coliseum (just West of Player's) is great but it might be a bit overwhelming for someone that's new to SCs. Pay the 20 dollars for a VIP table (booth) and order dinner, the food is great. If she's having fun and wants more then take her down the street to the Coliseum.

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[QUOTE=JVisaGod;3463606]Anything I need to know? Mandatory valet, VIP fees, cover?[/QUOTE]Valet $8, VIP tax $20, I think cover is $10 or $15, its been long time since I've paid cover so I'm not 100%.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3463519][b]Every time I've paid in advance I've regretted it[/b]. I've never had a girl who asked for the money up front do a decent job. The best girls haven't even asked how much I was going to pay, of course I'm known in Bogies and H8's. I've turned right around and walked out when they've asked for the money first. Ha ha, once at Bogies the girl was explaining the deal to the bouncer while I was leaving. Then a few minutes later I was back with another girl.[/QUOTE]Once the have all the money what's their motivation to do a good job. If I negotiate a $150 deal and she starts changing the rules halfway through the second song, I can say stop and just pay her for one song ($25) and still have $125 in my pocket. Trust me, if she has all the money she's not going to give you change back.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3463036]Or another way to look at it is, from a single vantage point you can see the entire place, which can be useful. The area already has its share of mega-bars anyway (PHC, FC, LS, Coli, Legends).[/QUOTE]That bar has struggled for the last 20 years if not more, there's a reason why you never see any posts about it. I like most of the members here go to SC for extras, I want to spend some time with a nice young spinner in a comfortable VIP area. The Playhouse has neither nice looking talent nor a nice VIP. The only reason that bar makes any money is its close to the airport, they get out of towners that don't know any better. They need to knock that bar down and start over.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3463027]Yes, about 3 weeks ago, in the mid afternoon like 2:00 PM. On a Thursday. A lot of girls working, but the VIP was very hit and miss. Eventually succeeded but it took several rejects to get there.[/QUOTE]Really? The last time I went (on a Friday) it was dead. Looks like I'll have to stop in and check it out. Thanks.

[QUOTE=StripperLover;3461467]Anybody else find it interesting that three new posters all have very similiar endings in their handles? Same guy maybe?[/QUOTE]JayJay123 is my older brother and Jay23 is our second cousin (I'm joking of course).

[QUOTE=Jay23;3461059]Are all three owned by the same owner? Also no cover for VIP?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=JeepThang234;3461565]Landing Strip is owned by Subi and Alan ownes Penthouse, FLight Club and Coli.[/QUOTE]Most clubs don't have a day shift cover, and most of them have a cover at night. VIP tax or not its always a good idea to tip the bouncer.

[QUOTE=Biggjake;3464382]I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bogart's lounge is a good place for couples.

[QUOTE=Biggjake;3464382]I'm a regular in toledo, but I have a date later this week with a girl from Roseville, and she wants to go to a strip club. Which clubs are closer to that area? Any clubs have night's for couples? I'm sure most clubs allow women as long as they are with a guy? Might get some couples dances. But just looking for a fun environment. Thanks.[/QUOTE]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.

Hope that helps you out.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3464623]Most clubs don't have a day shift cover, and most of them have a cover at night. VIP tax or not its always a good idea to tip the bouncer.[/QUOTE]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.

Rumor has it that Legends got busted for selling alcohol to underage customers. How that could happen with security checking I'd at the door is beyond belief. What I did hear was that they will be forced to shut down for 90 days, when isn't known. Heard this from several different sources so the information seems legit.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3465106]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.[/QUOTE]It's hush money. The bouncer / VIP troll whatever you want to call him, can easily turn on you in various ways if he is so inclined. Me, I prefer to pay him off so he leaves us alone.

[QUOTE=Sixguns;3464843]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.

Hope that helps you out.[/QUOTE]Coliseum for sure, nice big club lot of space and action, high end, and close to Roseville. Have fun. Let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=StripperLover;3465660]Rumor has it that Legends got busted for selling alcohol to underage customers. How that could happen with security checking I'd at the door is beyond belief. What I did hear was that they will be forced to shut down for 90 days, when isn't known. Heard this from several different sources so the information seems legit.[/QUOTE]That sucks I love that club. Where should I call home base now?

[QUOTE=LohnDog;3467461]That sucks I love that club. Where should I call home base now?[/QUOTE]Player's, its the sister club.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;3465106]Why? I've never tipped the bouncer. The bouncer is there to protect the girls, they should be the ones tipping.[/QUOTE]The girls tip-out everyday. But yes I do agree with you. The girls should be the ones paying the bouncer to look the other way. I don't tip the bouncer to look the other way, I tip the bouncer for special treatment.

The bouncers are there to protect everyone. If two drunk guys start kicking your ass, the bouncers will help you. Sure there are some bouncers that are steroid assholes, but for the most part they are just trying to earn a living just like you and I. But to answer your question why, comps. I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but I haven't paid cover in years, I always get the bigger booth when I go into the VIP and sometimes I don't even have to pay the VIP tax, I always get a nice table or booth (even if someone is already sitting there), a few bouncers I know have become managers so I've received a lot of free drinks and even a free meal or two. I've even had a few bouncers send over the "new girl" so I can break them in.

It just goes on and on the benefits of tipping from getting your car washed to getting the VIP treatment at the strip club.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3467124]It's hush money. The bouncer / VIP troll whatever you want to call him, can easily turn on you in various ways if he is so inclined. Me, I prefer to pay him off so he leaves us alone.[/QUOTE]I don't know if I'd go that far. You might get a shitty booth but I doubt they will turn on you. Strip clubs are businesses, it would be bad business if the clubs allowed their employees to turn on their customers.

[QUOTE=Sixguns;3464843]As far as close clubs to that area you pretty much have 3 choices Players and Coliseum and BTs. They are within a mile and a half of each other on 8 Mile pretty close to Roseville. I haven; t need to any of the 3 for a few years.

Hope that helps you out.[/QUOTE]BT's Detroit is a very poorly ran club. I wouldn't even take someone I disliked there LOL.

[QUOTE=Nuwisha304;3464825]Bogart's lounge is a good place for couples.[/QUOTE]Lord and baby Jesus, do not take her to Bogart's.

Update on Penthouse Club. They are back open now, apparently since last weekend. Not sure why they were shut down. Regardless, it is definitely business as usual. I sat at the bar as I always do and waited to be approached. I never approach them, as it puts you in a position of weakness from a negotiation standpoint. I decided to sip 4 beers and if I got through them and no one approached me, then I would leave. Another art of negotiation, always be willing to walk away. There were some hot chicks dancing but the ratio was more guys to girls and the girls seemed to rush over to their regulars as soon as they came off the stage. Hardly any girl was trolling the floor looking for hook up. So it was not looking good for that, but I was enjoying the show. As I was halfway through my 4th beer, "Debin" sat next to me and started chatting. She is either black, blasian, or mulatto, not sure, but young, cute, maybe a 7 or and 8 depending on your taste. Not my type but I decided to see what could happen. She started giving me the DTW handshake and asked if I was ready to play. Since it was now or never I decided to find out. We went to the VIP, sat down, and she asked what I was looking for. I said a BJ for $ sounded good to me. She countered with $$ and I said no, that didn't work for me. Notice I did not counter offer. She said she could work with $. 5 and I said I can only spend $. 4 and she agreed. OK great, so down to business. Ah and then another complication she asked for the donation up front. NO FREAKING WAY. I told her that was a show stopper. She goes welllllll I guess I trust you. Hmmm, OK. So off we go. A very basic CBJ that got the job done nothing more or less. Couple of oddities, she handed me the protection, unwrapped, for me to deal with it by myself. Well that's fine don't really care. Once done she immediately popped up ready to head out, as a pro I had a wad of cocktail napkins in my pocket so I could deal with the residuals, including quite a bit of slobber on the couch. Interesting that if it wasn't for me, it would have stayed there. Paid her, goodbye hug, off our separate ways. Except, I went over to the bar to get a drink and there she was at the end of the bar having a smoke. So I went downstairs to get away from her. Overall, a typical PH experience. Have fun.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3467566]Update on Penthouse Club. They are back open now, apparently since last weekend. Not sure why they were shut down. Regardless, it is definitely business as usual. I sat at the bar as I always do and waited to be approached. I never approach them, as it puts you in a position of weakness from a negotiation standpoint. I decided to sip 4 beers and if I got through them and no one approached me, then I would leave. Another art of negotiation, always be willing to walk away. There were some hot chicks dancing but the ratio was more guys to girls and the girls seemed to rush over to their regulars as soon as they came off the stage. Hardly any girl was trolling the floor looking for hook up. So it was not looking good for that, but I was enjoying the show. As I was halfway through my 4th beer, "Debin" sat next to me and started chatting. She is either black, blasian, or mulatto, not sure, but young, cute, maybe a 7 or and 8 depending on your taste. Not my type but I decided to see what could happen. She started giving me the DTW handshake and asked if I was ready to play. Since it was now or never I decided to find out. We went to the VIP, sat down, and she asked what I was looking for. I said a BJ for $ sounded good to me. She countered with $$ and I said no, that didn't work for me. Notice I did not counter offer. She said she could work with $. 5 and I said I can only spend $. 4 and she agreed. OK great, so down to business. Ah and then another complication she asked for the donation up front. NO FREAKING WAY. I told her that was a show stopper. She goes welllllll I guess I trust you. Hmmm, OK. So off we go. A very basic CBJ that got the job done nothing more or less. Couple of oddities, she handed me the protection, unwrapped, for me to deal with it by myself. Well that's fine don't really care. Once done she immediately popped up ready to head out, as a pro I had a wad of cocktail napkins in my pocket so I could deal with the residuals, including quite a bit of slobber on the couch. Interesting that if it wasn't for me, it would have stayed there. Paid her, goodbye hug, off our separate ways. Except, I went over to the bar to get a drink and there she was at the end of the bar having a smoke. So I went downstairs to get away from her. Overall, a typical PH experience. Have fun.[/QUOTE]Mr. Caul, just wondering why you wait until inside the VIP to negotiate, when most of the advice here on the forum insists on negotiating rates and service well before agreeing to enter the VIP.

I'll admit I have never been to PHC, so maybe that method doesn't work there. I will also admit I have not visited a SC since I went to The Criket in February, so maybe things have changed since then; but I can't see paying $140 for only a CBJ. I usually get BBBJ and CFS for $120-$140 in a club, or I don't go to VIP, period.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3464577]Once the have all the money what's their motivation to do a good job. If I negotiate a $150 deal and she starts changing the rules halfway through the second song, I can say stop and just pay her for one song ($25) and still have $125 in my pocket. Trust me, if she has all the money she's not going to give you change back.[/QUOTE]Amen to this. The worst experience I ever had was when I was new at this, failed to establish a price from the blonde dancer with big boobs before going to VIP (at La Chambre years ago) - she kept telling me what would happen "depends on how big a tipper you are" -- she got all the money in my wallet in exchange for a few licks of her pussy. That experience, plus reading this forum, taught me to negotiate by setting the price for the service I wanted before leaving my table. I have never had a problem with a dancer attempting to renegotiate after entering VIP. And I agree also that the best experiences have been with the dancers who seem to need reminding that I owe them for services rendered. More than once, payment was not made until I remembered belatedly after dressing.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;3467534]The girls tip-out everyday. But yes I do agree with you. The girls should be the ones paying the bouncer to look the other way. I don't tip the bouncer to look the other way, I tip the bouncer for special treatment.

The bouncers are there to protect everyone. If two drunk guys start kicking your ass, the bouncers will help you. Sure there are some bouncers that are steroid assholes, but for the most part they are just trying to earn a living just like you and I. But to answer your question why, comps. I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but I haven't paid cover in years, I always get the bigger booth when I go into the VIP and sometimes I don't even have to pay the VIP tax, I always get a nice table or booth (even if someone is already sitting there), a few bouncers I know have become managers so I've received a lot of free drinks and even a free meal or two. I've even had a few bouncers send over the "new girl" so I can break them in.

It just goes on and on the benefits of tipping from getting your car washed to getting the VIP treatment at the strip club.[/QUOTE]Mr. Checkers, I like your style. I also believe in tipping service personnel such as waitresses, hotel cleaning staff, airport baggage handlers, limousine drivers, tour guides, etc. I admit I have never considered tipping the bouncer. My question to you is, how much should one tip the strip club bouncer?

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3468197]Mr. Caul, just wondering why you wait until inside the VIP to negotiate, when most of the advice here on the forum insists on negotiating rates and service well before agreeing to enter the VIP.

I'll admit I have never been to PHC, so maybe that method doesn't work there. I will also admit I have not visited a SC since I went to The Criket in February, so maybe things have changed since then; but I can't see paying $140 for only a CBJ. I usually get BBBJ and CFS for $120-$140 in a club, or I don't go to VIP, period.[/QUOTE]Because once a girl has you in the VIP, she doesn't want to lose you (usually). If I don't like what I hear, I am always willing to walk away, and it costs me nothing. While still out on the floor, it is easy for HER to walk away, thus giving her the advantage when negotiating. Now if she initiates negotiation while out on the floor still, that's fine. I rarely bring it up until she's always gone through the steps of securing a VIP booth for us. But sometimes I do. It just depends. There is no foolproof method to any of this, it's whatever works for you.

Regarding pricing, PHC prices are higher than Criket because the girls are younger, hotter and the club is nicer. I am a big fan of Criket as well it's just a different experience.

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[QUOTE=Checkers123;3467534]The girls tip-out everyday. But yes I do agree with you. The girls should be the ones paying the bouncer to look the other way. I don't tip the bouncer to look the other way, I tip the bouncer for special treatment.

The bouncers are there to protect everyone. If two drunk guys start kicking your ass, the bouncers will help you. Sure there are some bouncers that are steroid assholes, but for the most part they are just trying to earn a living just like you and I. But to answer your question why, comps. I'm not trying to sound like an asshole but I haven't paid cover in years, I always get the bigger booth when I go into the VIP and sometimes I don't even have to pay the VIP tax, I always get a nice table or booth (even if someone is already sitting there), a few bouncers I know have become managers so I've received a lot of free drinks and even a free meal or two. I've even had a few bouncers send over the "new girl" so I can break them in.

It just goes on and on the benefits of tipping from getting your car washed to getting the VIP treatment at the strip club.[/QUOTE]They know who's "workin" and who's frontin'. A $10-20 will get you a new friend. Here's another tip, tip the dj and make a big production out of it and he will usually send girls your way to "take care of his new friend. " It helps being a vet and genuinely being a cool person. I gotten takeout on a bouncer or do recommendation. Stay safe.

If you have the where with all, meet up with friends or members, choose one who "Just got divorced," he'll get a few freebies (I. E. Drinks, dances, etc.) He might even get a discount in VIP if he spins it right (I was depressed, friend took me, can't afford that due to the divorce, just need to have some fun). Be creative, ask if she earns outside the club or does "private shows. " Good luck.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3468423][b]Because once a girl has you in the VIP, she doesn't want to lose you (usually). If I don't like what I hear, I am always willing to walk away, and it costs me nothing[/b]. While still out on the floor, it is easy for HER to walk away, thus giving her the advantage when negotiating. Now if she initiates negotiation while out on the floor still, that's fine. I rarely bring it up until she's always gone through the steps of securing a VIP booth for us. But sometimes I do. It just depends. There is no foolproof method to any of this, it's whatever works for you.

Regarding pricing, PHC prices are higher than Criket because the girls are younger, hotter and the club is nicer. I am a big fan of Criket as well it's just a different experience.[/QUOTE]It costs you nothing? You spent 10 or 20 to get into the VIP, and 2 songs later (25 each) you don't like what you hear. How is that nothing? Sounds like 60 or 70 bucks to me. Its been my experience that strippers would rather make 50 giving 2 clean dances then make a 100 for doing extras. If this works for you brother great, I just can't see investing 70 to find out if she's clean or dirty.

Went to bogart.

After having a couple buckets of $9 beers I left for Henry 8th, first experience. Older lady, very skinny needed.

Not the best teeth offered FS $. Days she has protection. I countered with. 80 and told her to find me at 1:45. She did and she followed through. Solid experience.

Could.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;3468423]Because once a girl has you in the VIP, she doesn't want to lose you (usually). If I don't like what I hear, I am always willing to walk away, and it costs me nothing. While still out on the floor, it is easy for HER to walk away, thus giving her the advantage when negotiating. Now if she initiates negotiation while out on the floor still, that's fine. I rarely bring it up until she's always gone through the steps of securing a VIP booth for us. But sometimes I do. It just depends. There is no foolproof method to any of this, it's whatever works for you.

Regarding pricing, PHC prices are higher than Criket because the girls are younger, hotter and the club is nicer. I am a big fan of Criket as well it's just a different experience.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Mr. Caul, that sounds like a good strategy.

[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3468227]Mr. Checkers, I like your style. I also believe in tipping service personnel such as waitresses, hotel cleaning staff, airport baggage handlers, limousine drivers, tour guides, etc. I admit I have never considered tipping the bouncer. My question to you is, how much should one tip the strip club bouncer?[/QUOTE]What I will usually do is (on my way out) introduce myself to the VIP bouncer and or doorman, talk him up for a few minutes, then palm him 5 or 10 when I shake his hand goodbye. You don't even have to do it every time, every other time is still OK. A little something is a lot better then a lot of nothing.

[QUOTE=Kurse;3468932]They know who's "workin" and who's frontin'. A $10-20 will get you a new friend. Here's another tip, tip the dj and make a big production out of it and he will usually send girls your way to "take care of his new friend. " It helps being a vet and genuinely being a cool person. I gotten takeout on a bouncer or do recommendation. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]What club / clubs did you work at?