Non Pro's

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5024162]There's a certain look / style that some girls have that can easily tell you that she's not remotely worth the trouble. When I looked at her pictures, I saw a girl who was completely into herself, probably a scammer (which Michael1967 confirmed) and likely a void on the inside. Her hair, nails, and demeanor say a lot about the shallowness you're going to find. My intuition says that you'll get more satisfaction from humping your own hand than humping her.[/QUOTE]+1 Ditto. There are many women on SA and TNA that I do not even bother contacted based on their pics / look. A lot can be said about them. I have learnt (the hard way after too many sub-par appointments) to really trust my instincts in this regard.

[QUOTE=CoffeeTurd;5024532]She's 18, openly admitted that she hasn't had many sexual partners, and then claimed her v was worth more than 10 k and that she can throw it back with the best of them. Got mad at an offer of 500.

The nerve.[/QUOTE]I'm just going to come out and say it. I've been on SA for a few years now and have now fucked my share of 19-22 year olds. Without exception, every one of them have been completely horrible fucks. All of them seem to think they are great lays, but they don't know how to nor even care about pleasing men. It bothered me enough for me to think that's it was me. Nope. 27/28 YO plus, the sex with all of them had been great to incredible. My last date with a 20 yo, I faked an orgasm because not only was the sex bad, but her lack of enthusiasm was such a turn off that I simply had no interest in finishing. After paying her the money, I kept the hotel room and actually paid again for a hooker to come out because I actually wanted to get fucked. I'm so done with youngsters that think sex is just lying there attempting to look cute.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5025031]... every one of them have been completely horrible fucks. All of them seem to think they are great lays, but they don't know how to nor even care about pleasing men. ... [/QUOTE]Yes, it is what it is. Which is why I have an age cutoff of 25 and make only rare exceptions.

One of those exceptions popped up on my radar last week. She's 18, cute, lives about two dozen miles from me, and knows (or says she knows) what she is on the site for. We did a discreet M&G on Sunday evening and she is definitely genuine and I checked her I'd.

But the downsides are really daunting:

She is obviously VERY inexperienced.

Her friends and family members probably won't look very kindly on me banging this girl who is much less than half my age, and unless we are super-careful they will almost certainly find out.

She lives in an very small town, and finding a private and discreet place to fuck is going to be a huge challenge (I may have to drive with her fifty miles or so to a location with a few hotels).

So I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do about her. We have discussed how the arrangement would work and her expectations are reasonable. But this whole situation makes me real nervous.

When the girls go all passive on me that is usually a sign that they expect a man to take charge. I'm not afraid to tell a lady exactly what she is supposed to do, in the most explicit possible terms. That's usually helpful in bringing the passive ones out of their shell. You've got to take responsibility for and control of the situation.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025408]Yes, it is what it is. Which is why I have an age cutoff of 25 and make only rare exceptions.

One of those exceptions popped up on my radar last week. She's 18, cute, lives about two dozen miles from me, and knows (or says she knows) what she is on the site for. We did a discreet M&G on Sunday evening and she is definitely genuine and I checked her I'd.

But the downsides are really daunting:

She is obviously VERY inexperienced.

Her friends and family members probably won't look very kindly on me banging this girl who is much less than half my age, and unless we are super-careful they will almost certainly find out.

She lives in an very small town, and finding a private and discreet place to fuck is going to be a huge challenge (I may have to drive with her fifty miles or so to a location with a few hotels).

So I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do about her. We have discussed how the arrangement would work and her expectations are reasonable. But this whole situation makes me real nervous.[/QUOTE]Just make the first hook up all about her. Make her cum, let her enjoy it before you get yours. That with money and some attention and in the palm of your hand she goes.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025408]Yes, it is what it is. Which is why I have an age cutoff of 25 and make only rare exceptions.

One of those exceptions popped up on my radar last week. She's 18, cute, lives about two dozen miles from me, and knows (or says she knows) what she is on the site for. We did a discreet M&G on Sunday evening and she is definitely genuine and I checked her I'd.

But the downsides are really daunting:

She is obviously VERY inexperienced.

Her friends and family members probably won't look very kindly on me banging this girl who is much less than half my age, and unless we are super-careful they will almost certainly find out.

She lives in an very small town, and finding a private and discreet place to fuck is going to be a huge challenge (I may have to drive with her fifty miles or so to a location with a few hotels).

So I'm not yet sure what I'm going to do about her. We have discussed how the arrangement would work and her expectations are reasonable. But this whole situation makes me real nervous.

When the girls go all passive on me that is usually a sign that they expect a man to take charge. I'm not afraid to tell a lady exactly what she is supposed to do, in the most explicit possible terms. That's usually helpful in bringing the passive ones out of their shell. You've got to take responsibility for and control of the situation.[/QUOTE]1. Do you normally tell the parents you are fucking their daughter?

2. Small town. No motels. Buy a camper.

[QUOTE=CookieGuy;5025733]1. Do you normally tell the parents you are fucking their daughter?

2. Small town. No motels. Buy a camper.[/QUOTE]A camper might be a good idea, but a bit cold in winter and I don't have a good place to store one where it will survive.

No, I of course don't tell the parents I am fucking their little princess. But in a small town (she lives in a town with less than 2500 people) word is going to get out. People around here can identify people by the cars they drive, so if someone starts asking around (I live nearby) they will land on me pretty quickly. Even if it isn't very likely it is prudent to assume that I will get identified.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025751]A camper might be a good idea, but a bit cold in winter and I don't have a good place to store one where it will survive.

No, I of course don't tell the parents I am fucking their little princess. But in a small town (she lives in a town with less than 2500 people) word is going to get out. People around here can identify people by the cars they drive, so if someone starts asking around (I live nearby) they will land on me pretty quickly. Even if it isn't very likely it is prudent to assume that I will get identified.[/QUOTE]If the town can identify your car, wouldn't a rocking camper be even more conspicuous?

[QUOTE=Diver6390;5025765]If the town can identify your car, wouldn't a rocking camper be even more conspicuous?[/QUOTE]In the winter it would be very conspicuous because there aren't many discreet places to park, as most of the good places to hide are full of snow. In the summer we'd have lots of places to park it where nobody would pay any attention no matter how hard a pounding I was giving out in the camper.

I'm pulling a few strings and it looks like I'll have a discreet place for us to bang in a few days. As a backup I've identified a discreet motel not too far away, but far enough away that nobody will be asking too many questions. The other situation is likely to be far better, though.

I am not sure if she blocked me or just deleted her account, however if someone could check that would help, 26 Brunette in Marysville, her profile name was CC nursing student or something like that.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025408]Yes, it is what it is. Which is why I have an age cutoff of 25 and make only rare exceptions.

When the girls go all passive on me that is usually a sign that they expect a man to take charge. I'm not afraid to tell a lady exactly what she is supposed to do, in the most explicit possible terms. That's usually helpful in bringing the passive ones out of their shell. You've got to take responsibility for and control of the situation.[/QUOTE]Naw. Maybe I'm just old and jaded but I expect people that want to give up some ass so men will give them money and buy them shit to actually know or be willing to learn how to please men. If they want lessons on fucking then they can pay me. I seriously don't have the time / energy to fuck with shyness or being coy. I like the flirting and fun texts with a SB, but when it's time to get down to business, I expect her to have eaten her Wheaties and be prepared to spend a couple of dirty, wet, sweaty hours getting busy. From talking to people, it appears that I pay more than average and I always buy presents for my SBs. All of my SBs keep an Amazon wish list that I regularly use ($800-$1000/ mth). So, I'm not some cheap bastard, hoping to find low prices escorts. But younger people act like you're supposed to be happy that they are willing to fuck you and seem unwilling to put in the effort. Then they are shocked when you don't want anything to do with them after one meeting.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025408]Yes, it is what it is. Which is why I have an age cutoff of 25 and make only rare exceptions.

When the girls go all passive on me that is usually a sign that they expect a man to take charge. I'm not afraid to tell a lady exactly what she is supposed to do, in the most explicit possible terms. That's usually helpful in bringing the passive ones out of their shell. You've got to take responsibility for and control of the situation.[/QUOTE]Naw. Maybe I'm just old and jaded but I expect people that want to give up some ass so men will give them money and buy them shit to actually know or be willing to learn how to please men. If they want lessons on fucking then they can pay me. I seriously don't have the time / energy to fuck with shyness or being coy. I like the flirting and fun texts with a SB, but when it's time to get down to business, I expect her to have eaten her Wheaties and be prepared to spend a couple of dirty, wet, sweaty hours getting busy. From talking to people, it appears that I pay more than average and I always buy presents for my SBs. All of my SBs keep an Amazon wish list that I regularly use ($800-$1000/ mth). So, I'm not some cheap bastard, hoping to find low prices escorts. But younger people act like you're supposed to be happy that they are willing to fuck you and seem unwilling to put in the effort. Then they are shocked when you don't want anything to do with them after one meeting.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5025751]A camper might be a good idea, but a bit cold in winter and I don't have a good place to store one where it will survive.

No, I of course don't tell the parents I am fucking their little princess. But in a small town (she lives in a town with less than 2500 people) word is going to get out. People around here can identify people by the cars they drive, so if someone starts asking around (I live nearby) they will land on me pretty quickly. Even if it isn't very likely it is prudent to assume that I will get identified.[/QUOTE]I try to only look about a 30 min drive from the area I hang around to ensure there is no accidental meetings, I have been off SA for a while but hopped on again after all the fake ads on STG, I have found a few girls I would like to meet that are close but I can't break that rule I have, I was chatting with one and she is at most 5 minutes from me if I do the 25 MPH speed limit, another is the next city over where I always hang out, and third is a girl I have met before at a school function.

Hahaha I'm sorry Marko but this is too funny. Playing where's Waldo, James bond, hot potato with the kitty. All I'm saying is, if you have to plan it this carefully might not be worth it? Unless she's super hawt! But what do I know, I don't bang SB $ Yet!

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5026386]In the winter it would be very conspicuous because there aren't many discreet places to park, as most of the good places to hide are full of snow. In the summer we'd have lots of places to park it where nobody would pay any attention no matter how hard a pounding I was giving out in the camper.

I'm pulling a few strings and it looks like I'll have a discreet place for us to bang in a few days. As a backup I've identified a discreet motel not too far away, but far enough away that nobody will be asking too many questions. The other situation is likely to be far better, though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrstMan;5026589]I try to only look about a 30 min drive from the area I hang around to ensure there is no accidental meetings, I have been off SA for a while but hopped on again after all the fake ads on STG, I have found a few girls I would like to meet that are close but I can't break that rule I have, I was chatting with one and she is at most 5 minutes from me if I do the 25 MPH speed limit, another is the next city over where I always hang out, and third is a girl I have met before at a school function.[/QUOTE]I live in a pretty sparsely populated corner of the state, and there probably aren't 5000 people within a thirty minute drive. Because I travel all over the state on business I manage to do most of my whoring pretty far away.

A few years ago I had a girl who lived nearby (actually from the same town as the one I am currently considering) and lived with her mom. I'd hook up with her about twice a week at her house (actually a decrepit double wide), and usually there would be four or five minutes of small talk with her mom before we retreated to the bedroom to get busy. It was a little weird but never a problem, and her mom was about the same age (or even maybe a couple of years younger) than I am.

Most of the girls on the arrangement sites who are close to me are either morbidly obese or serious drug addicts, or both. If I venture far afield to Ellensburg or Pullman there are some college girls who know what they are on the sites for, but that is a long way and I do enough driving for business.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5026549]...I expect people that want to give up some ass so men will give them money and buy them shit to actually know or be willing to learn how to please men...[/QUOTE]Yeah, and you'd think that some ***** selling her body as a means of support would actually take care of the merchandize, you know, her body!