I contacted a hot blonde on SD4 me and she replied "Babe I know your wife PERSONALLY".
Is she saying not interested or what!
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I contacted a hot blonde on SD4 me and she replied "Babe I know your wife PERSONALLY".
Is she saying not interested or what!
Fotoguy,
I can only think that if you mentioned intimacy and payment thereof and they found out, they'd ban you. Normally, they'd look the other way, but if some woman you chatted to on the site reported it, they'd have to act, since they wouldn't know whether she, or you were LE setting them up for a bust.
If, otoh, you never mention intimacy and money together, it's got me beat. I always take that sort of convo off site. In fact, I try to use that as something to entice the ladies to a m&g.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2426355]I contacted a hot blonde on SD4 me and she replied "Babe I know your wife PERSONALLY".
Is she saying not interested or what![/QUOTE]What does you wife tell her friends about you?
[QUOTE=RubberyMan;2426569]Fotoguy,
I can only think that if you mentioned intimacy and payment thereof and they found out, they'd ban you. Normally, they'd look the other way, but if some woman you chatted to on the site reported it, they'd have to act, since they wouldn't know whether she, or you were LE setting them up for a bust.
If, otoh, you never mention intimacy and money together, it's got me beat. I always take that sort of convo off site. In fact, I try to use that as something to entice the ladies to a m&g.[/QUOTE]Also, make sure not to send out the exact same words to lots of girls. The server will detect you as a spammer / potential scammer. This is a common problem with all online dating sites, not just SD sites. They want to see customized / unique interactions with each person, otherwise they figure an ulterior motive. Sending out form letters will eventually get you banned.
Dating, fishing for SB's etc. Can be a lot of hard work.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2426133]Very odd. I don't think I would stop in the quest of finding out what they are talking about. They didn't say specifically what the violation was?[/QUOTE]Not at all. Their first email was very general and all it said was I was using my account for commercial purposes. When I replied with a total denial of that, they simply told me that my account was unable to be restored, period. They haven't responded to my next reply which basically said that this was a terrible way to treat someone who's been a good customer for over 2 years.
[QUOTE=RubberyMan;2426569]Fotoguy,
I can only think that if you mentioned intimacy and payment thereof and they found out, they'd ban you. Normally, they'd look the other way, but if some woman you chatted to on the site reported it, they'd have to act, since they wouldn't know whether she, or you were LE setting them up for a bust.
If, otoh, you never mention intimacy and money together, it's got me beat. I always take that sort of convo off site. In fact, I try to use that as something to entice the ladies to a m&g.[/QUOTE]Nope, that's not it. I've been using the approach of, "Hey I like you, email me!".
They've also suspended my account at misstravel, which I only joined to look over the site. They're apparently banning me from SA and the sister sites, as I tried to make a new account under a different email addy and less than a day later, it was deleted due to "fraud".
Bottom line, be wary of doing business with SA and the sister sites, they'll suspend and delete your account and ban you even if you've been a member in good standing for a long while, all over accusations that are 100% false and without merit.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2426970]Also, make sure not to send out the exact same words to lots of girls. The server will detect you as a spammer / potential scammer. This is a common problem with all online dating sites, not just SD sites. They want to see customized / unique interactions with each person, otherwise they figure an ulterior motive. Sending out form letters will eventually get you banned.
Dating, fishing for SB's etc. Can be a lot of hard work.[/QUOTE]That could be it, but I would think they would tell me I was spamming as opposed to using my account for "commercial purposes". I guess I'll have to change my IP and make a new email addy.
[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2427162]That could be it, but I would think they would tell me I was spamming as opposed to using my account for "commercial purposes". I guess I'll have to change my IP and make a new email addy.[/QUOTE]Often the task of vetting out this sort of thing is done by lower-paid workers that are globally dispersed. They usually just have a script of things to look for and actions to take. Engaging their brain, really reading the content in question, etc. Is not in their job description and the level of effort that goes into what they do is commensurate with what they are paid.
So basically if they are told to look out for spammers, and the server sends them a notice / flag indicating a high number of duplicates, they will just look at it and go "yep that's a high number of duplicates, must be a spammer trying to sell something". They won't bother trying to investigate what it is you might actually be trying to sell, they only can identify that their system is being gamed a bit.
In a way that's good, because it works both ways. It also prevents the girls from sending out "highly optimized" form letters based on what they've found to be effective. It requires them to represent themselves honestly rather than just use some text they hijacked from elsewhere. It's a very long standing problem in online dating websites.
Sending out the same text to multiple people is considered a "marketing blast" in Internet related industries, regardless of what's contained in it, so for that reason it might have violated their policy on commercial activity. Ok, so you were only marketing your penis, but some underpaid task-based worker in Asia isn't making enough bank to care about the reasons.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2426355]I contacted a hot blonde on SD4 me and she replied "Babe I know your wife PERSONALLY".
Is she saying not interested or what![/QUOTE]Whoa that would be a shocker.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2427243]Often the task of vetting out this sort of thing is done by lower-paid workers that are globally dispersed. They usually just have a script of things to look for and actions to take. Engaging their brain, really reading the content in question, etc. Is not in their job description and the level of effort that goes into what they do is commensurate with what they are paid.
So basically if they are told to look out for spammers, and the server sends them a notice / flag indicating a high number of duplicates, they will just look at it and go "yep that's a high number of duplicates, must be a spammer trying to sell something". They won't bother trying to investigate what it is you might actually be trying to sell, they only can identify that their system is being gamed a bit.
In a way that's good, because it works both ways. It also prevents the girls from sending out "highly optimized" form letters based on what they've found to be effective. It requires them to represent themselves honestly rather than just use some text they hijacked from elsewhere. It's a very long standing problem in online dating websites.
Sending out the same text to multiple people is considered a "marketing blast" in Internet related industries, regardless of what's contained in it, so for that reason it might have violated their policy on commercial activity. Ok, so you were only marketing your penis, but some underpaid task-based worker in Asia isn't making enough bank to care about the reasons.[/QUOTE]This makes total sense.
This UTR (pictured) has been very persistent. But in a very nice way. I haven't had to go that route much lately (only twice so far this year). But she has me laughing. Also got a CL hit from a sweet looking 18 year old today. Need to do some more M&G's as the last two have not panned out so far.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2426355]I contacted a hot blonde on SD4 me and she replied "Babe I know your wife PERSONALLY".
Is she saying not interested or what![/QUOTE]So, are you using your real name, real photo or what? How did she I'd you? If she knows who you really are, without meeting you, face to face, you are not covering your tracks well enough.
If that's the case, I would be worried about how much your SO knows already.
Be worried!
I have see a few posts on the subject of marriage on here lately. So I thought I would put my two cents in.
1- there is no reason for a man to get married, financially it is one of the worst moves you can make. Generally speaking when you sign that contract (it is a contract, legally binding you to another person) you are responsible for the other person. Meaning, they are entitled to half of everything you have.
2- if you want you can live together, just be careful in some states. So it is like you are married without the contract. Plus, if you break up, you take your stuff, they take there's.
3- alimony, you are literally paying your ex not to be your wife, a judge decided what you pay and can put you in jail if you don't pay.
You work hard, take care of your family. Your loving wife decides she no longer likes you. So now you have to give her half to 2/3's your income, till she gets married again.
Worked 8 hours and saw my ATF for four hours, and Stilll managed to start talking to this POT before I crash for the night. 4'11" about 105.
[QUOTE=CopperFool;2428935]I have see a few posts on the subject of marriage on here lately. So I thought I would put my two cents in.
1- there is no reason for a man to get married, financially it is one of the worst moves you can make. Generally speaking when you sign that contract (it is a contract, legally binding you to another person) you are responsible for the other person. Meaning, they are entitled to half of everything you have.
2- if you want you can live together, just be careful in some states. So it is like you are married without the contract. Plus, if you break up, you take your stuff, they take there's.
3- alimony, you are literally paying your ex not to be your wife, a judge decided what you pay and can put you in jail if you don't pay.
You work hard, take care of your family. Your loving wife decides she no longer likes you. So now you have to give her half to 2/3's your income, till she gets married again.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the prenup.
Also for anyone who does want to get married at some point in the future, consider buying real estate before you get married. In some states assets you acquired prior to marriage are not handled the same way as assets acquired after the rings are on the fingers. Then, put a priority on aggressively paying down the principal of any loans on the property. There is no general agreement on whether it's better to pay down a mortgage quick versus the higher returns of the stock market, but when you figure the stock market has historically averaged around 7. 5% overall, then you have to pay capital gains tax, THEN combine that with the risk of you've got to get mama's signature on every freaking document that involves your retirement funds (muddy waters between money you put in before you met her versus the half she thinks she owns), rapid mortgage pay down on a home that's all yours is a really good strategy for someone that doesn't like to be a chump, and that's not even taking into consideration the ups and downs of the stock market that may make liquidity of the funds impossible if you do need them. With home equity you can always borrow against it at rates much lower than those "iffy" stock market returns.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2428978]Worked 8 hours and saw my ATF for four hours, and Stilll managed to start talking to this POT before I crash for the night. 4'11" about 105.[/QUOTE]How the heck you managed to keep finding girls like this.
Kudos to you Sir.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2429697]How the heck you managed to keep finding girls like this.
Kudos to you Sir.[/QUOTE]This girl is on SA. Mostly I only search for 18-20. And then all the black and mixed girls 18-27 that identify as slim or athletic. I burned through all the old profiles on SA. Now I can only hit up the new profiles. I still do it on day one as many drop off within the first week. Also I don't discriminate based on their looks. Some GPS looking girls aren't. Some average looking girls turn out to be hot in person. This one just hit my search. And says money isn't her only motivation. Also I tuned up the 5 steps recently. Minor changes I made based on feedback I received. Minor but relevant.
Hi guys, newbie here, amazed / inspired / motivated at what I'm reading in this thread! I live in another part of the US. I got on the SD4 3 day trial and was immediately buried with obvious scam emails.
I can delete those easily enough, but I also sent out over 30 emails to real-looking profiles, using some of the templates suggested here. I got one response, and most of my emails I see, were still not even opened after a day or 2. It seems like a ghost town to me.
BTW, no way I'd give a real CC# to that site, given the horror stories you can read online about trying to cancel! Luckily my bank can generate a single-use CC# with spending & time limits.
So I used a CC# with a $1 limit & to sign up for the 3 day trial. Then I only pay for a monthly if I choose to. Not automatically. Highly suggest this technique for all your online pursuits.
So comrades,
What morons actually give a girl money before even meeting the girl?
There are plenty of sap stories out there, many could use money right away.
I always say "I want to help you, but we need to meet first".
I ran into a situation this week. I was working this girl over text, she asked for some help before having met, I gave her my standard answer, some moron gave her the money without meeting her, and she cut me off.
All that work wasted.
Seriously, who gives a girl money without having met them before?
Wow!
I was texting with a "married but looking" lady, hott. Hottt. Hotttt.
She tells me she is doing a 73-year old man, who is giving her some serious allowance.
73 years? Holly. I got instant respect for that unknown man.
I almost asked her to give me his number, so I can tell him he is g-o-d, doing this at 73.
The lady was begging me to make her an offer because she is "so tired of the senior citizen day", but she was greedy asking for $500 per meet. No woman is worth that in my opinion, I am much lower. I offered to have an affair with her (a short stint) at a lower rate but it was a no go.
So, while I told her bye, I still respected the 73-year old for being able to hit that.
Wow.
I can only wish that I make it o that age and can still get it up.
Holly smokes!
[QUOTE=CopperFool;2428935]I have see a few posts on the subject of marriage on here lately. So I thought I would put my two cents in.
You work hard, take care of your family. Your loving wife decides she no longer likes you. So now you have to give her half to 2/3's your income, till she gets married again.[/QUOTE]Agreed, because, 'judge, she stopped rubbing my balls one morning circa 2006 so I found someone that did' doesn't go over well with the courts in America.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2429722]This girl is on SA. Mostly I only search for 18-20. And then all the black and mixed girls 18-27 that identify as slim or athletic. I burned through all the old profiles on SA. Now I can only hit up the new profiles. I still do it on day one as many drop off within the first week. Also I don't discriminate based on their looks. Some GPS looking girls aren't. Some average looking girls turn out to be hot in person. This one just hit my search. And says money isn't her only motivation. Also I tuned up the 5 steps recently. Minor changes I made based on feedback I received. Minor but relevant.[/QUOTE]Totally agree that one can burn through profiles on SA and the new ones drop off like flies. I think the game on there might be to create a new profile every 3 months and 'act' like a new SD with some, but not a lot of, experience. And FWIW, I love the 5 steps. It's working so thank you.
I have a reg SB thanks to this blog and one I text a lot. The reg is dirty and fun but doesn't ask for anything, and because of that I happily help when I see her. The text one owns a business, she doesn't ask for anything because she is too busy (and knows she is too busy to be a reg), but when we get together, she just wants someone to pay for a nice dinner and drinks and reciprocates by buying a round.
[QUOTE=FTP1999;2430066]I was texting with a "married but looking" lady, hott. Hottt. Hotttt.
She tells me she is doing a 73-year old man, who is giving her some serious allowance.
73 years? Holly. I got instant respect for that unknown man.
I almost asked her to give me his number, so I can tell him he is g-o-d, doing this at 73.
The lady was begging me to make her an offer because she is "so tired of the senior citizen day", but she was greedy asking for $500 per meet. No woman is worth that in my opinion, I am much lower. I offered to have an affair with her (a short stint) at a lower rate but it was a no go.
So, while I told her bye, I still respected the 73-year old for being able to hit that.
Wow.
I can only wish that I make it o that age and can still get it up.
Holly smokes![/QUOTE]It just goes to show that many hot girls will do what it takes to score the bucks and earn bragging rights with their Homies. Everyone has a price, it just might not be yours.
New SB, had M&G a week ago. 24/ Mixed / Petite. Body /7 Face /6 Sex /2. Profile pics looked awesome. In person realized the pics were before child birth. Personally, I prefer women that haven't had children. No discussion about sugar. She texts me early in the am, we chat a bit and she's on her way to my place. She was just a dead lay. Like a motionless sex doll. The oral was skillful, but overall substandard experience. I came in like 2 minutes and couldn't get her to leave. Terrible experience. I need to go with my first mind on these things. My logic used to be that you can't have filet mignon all the time, sometimes a bologna sandwich can be filling and delicious too. In this case the bologna sandwich was f&ing disgusting.
Made up for it with another SB later that evening. Took her to five star restaurant and then FC at a hotel. No discussion on sugar. Sex was awesome, lasted several hours. 22/ M / Petite. Body /8, face 8, sex /8. This girls a winner. We drank so much I forgot to compensate her for her time.
[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2430463]
Made up for it with another SB later that evening. Took her to five star restaurant and then FC at a hotel. No discussion on sugar. Sex was awesome, lasted several hours. 22/ M / Petite. Body /8, face 8, sex /8. This girls a winner. We drank so much I forgot to compensate her for her time.[/QUOTE]Good rebound!
A few things I've noticed about SA.
If you sign up and leave a new account alone for long enough, you will be offerered a discount. Not that $20 will make a difference to anyone but I'd rather add give extra sugar to a SB I like than to a money making corporation.
If you sign up and leave your account alone long enough, SA will increase the visibility of your profile. Presumably if you get enough messages telling you that lots of women have viewed your profile and or those women send you a message, it will help push you to sign up.
A few months back I created a new profile in anticipation of tearing down my old profile and starting a new one. I decided to renew my old account though because I had lingering messages from six or seven new pots that I wanted to follow up on. In the interim, the new profile I had created was sitting fallow.
In the span of just three months, that profile accumulated 90 messages and over 300 views. SA offered a discount to upgrade that profile to premium.
Overall I haven't needed to renew my account for the past few months since I've had existing babies to play with and a pretty full real life schedule with work, real life stuff, etc.
If and when I do decide to renew though, I will probably dump my old profile and use the new one.
Long story short, for a discount on the SA subscription fee, just create multiple new accounts and "activate" them once you're offered the discount. You'll also benefit from the websites decision to promote that profile in an attempt to get you to sign up, since there may very well be a few leads already waiting for you when you "activate" that profile.
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2430644]A few things I've noticed about SA.[/QUOTE]And compared to SD4M.
SA. Has way more girls.
SA. Has way more GPS girls.
SA. The GPS girls want way more than the SD4M GPS girls.
SA. Has far fewer black girls (as a percentage).
SA. The girls take way longer to respond.
SA. Overall prettier girls, college girls and career girls and real NP's.
SA. I think the overall site experience is better. But SD4M has some good features as well.
But for apprx. $50 each its still worth having them both for now.
Just an interesting FYI. As far as internet marketing goes. The SD sites are paying me far more than the many other dating sites I work for. Conclusion. The other mainstream sites are saturated and the SD world is growing. The only exception is eHarmony, especially when they are having a free weekend special.
"Per meeting you'd give me $300-$600 depending on the pictures you submit to me : )
Let me know when we can start. ".
At those prices I am sure she would start at 3 am on a sunday nite if she had to. And its kind of an insulting answer to someone that might be new in the bowl.
My pics are worth a $ maybe $$ for a true 10 (this girl was maybe an 8/9). Although I have yet to offer $$ to any girl since I went on a budget a few years ago. I am still eating (literally) the low hanging fruit. Which in some ways diminishes the sweetness. And in some ways enhances it. realistically I do have to make some compromises.
In the auction world I have seen rich guys pay insane prices for things and also buy everything in sight, and they do seem to get some small satisfaction out of it. But I have also seen average guys bide their time to find a hidden gem when no one was looking and still be marveling over it years later. If I could afford to I would bid higher knowing that some of those $$ and maybe even $$$ bids would bring untold value. And especially so if there was nothing at $ worth bidding on (because I am not going to go without).
But as long as there is a bigger supply than my current demand I am just gonna keep on doing what I do. Which is to shoot for the 7/9's (face/body) in looks and keep the ones that are 9/10's in the skills dept. Because I would rather have to fantasize that a girl is prettier looking than have to pray I was gonna cum good in the end.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2431241]"Per meeting you'd give me $300-$600 depending on the pictures you submit to me : )
Let me know when we can start. ".
At those prices I am sure she would start at 3 am on a sunday nite if she had to. And its kind of an insulting answer to someone that might be new in the bowl.
My pics are worth a $ maybe $$ for a true 10 (this girl was maybe an 8/9). Although I have yet to offer $$ to any girl since I went on a budget a few years ago. I am still eating (literally) the low hanging fruit. Which in some ways diminishes the sweetness. And in some ways enhances it. realistically I do have to make some compromises.
In the auction world I have seen rich guys pay insane prices for things and also buy everything in sight, and they do seem to get some small satisfaction out of it. But I have also seen average guys bide their time to find a hidden gem when no one was looking and still be marveling over it years later. If I could afford to I would bid higher knowing that some of those $$ and maybe even $$$ bids would bring untold value. And especially so if there was nothing at $ worth bidding on (because I am not going to go without).
But as long as there is a bigger supply than my current demand I am just gonna keep on doing what I do. Which is to shoot for the 7/9's in looks and keep the 9/10's in skills. Because I would rather have to fantasize that a girl is better looking than have to pray I was gonna cum good in the end.[/QUOTE]A few months ago, mainly because I can afford it, I paid the $k+ price to spend time with SB's that I guess most would consider a 10. My type of 10 is tall, thin, 21-mid 20's and European. Living in Las Vegas, this type is easy to find. I haven't written about them before because, frankly, I'm not as gifted at relating my experiences like some of the frequent contributors here. I met with 4 different SBs that met my type and all 4 were 5/6 in skills and below average in conversation. I understand for many Men here conversation doesn't rate but for me I like to do a dinner date with conversation and then desert in my suite. I don't blame the SBs for their mediocrity, I think they are so used to Men being so ga ga over their looks and presence that allowing penetration and swallowing should be enough. For me, I want more.
My most satisfactory dates have been my body type but more like an 8 in facial beauty. Very nice but not the "stop the room" knockout type of looks. My 8's tend to be confident about their looks but not completely relying on their beauty to carry them through the evening. I spend mid $$$ for the 8's time and affection and it seems a nice deal for both of us. I know many of you can get similar or better quality for less than what I donate, but I'm okay with what I pay and Las Vegas is such a large market I'm not worried about influencing the price index.
I would demand my money back! You should point out are steeling your money! You can also point out that there are no shortage of AG's / DAs out there that are more than interested in any questionable biz practices or illegal doings they specifically may be involved with!
Demand your month or your money back immediately, you could also have your credit card push them.
[QUOTE=FotoGuy1970;2426110]Well, I will no longer recommend SA. I had just signed up for another month when out of the blue my account was suspended and apparently deleted. When I contacted customer support to find out what was going on, they tried to tell me that I was using my account for commercial purposes and they had proof of it in my message outbox. When I denied any such thing, they simply replied that my account was gone for good. I've been on that site for over 2 years, have paid for a month of premium membership on several occasions, even paid to have my background verified. For them to just pull the plug completely on my account for ridiculous reasons is customer service at its worst. I didn't even have 24 hours of access this time around when they suspended and deleted me. So I basically paid 70 for them to kick me off the site. Terrible, terrible way to run things.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VAJimbo;2431596]I would demand my money back! You should point out are steeling your money! You can also point out that there are no shortage of AG's / DAs out there that are more than interested in any questionable biz practices or illegal doings they specifically may be involved with!
Demand your month or your money back immediately, you could also have your credit card push them.[/QUOTE]Working with your CC provider is always the way out of any bad or fraudulent transaction, especially online. Try to always use the phrase "the product or service was not as described". Although, with the I will assume thousands of dollars used on any card in a month, a small transaction would be refunded with practically no discussion at all or even automatically online (such as at bank of america). With Paypal always use the quoted phrase exactly. All merchants expect a certain amount of chargebacks and will not contest it with the processor. At this time the onus is on the merchant in the processing world. As far as getting a new account at SA or anywhere else. You may find that just resigning up with a new card and email address gets you back on.
[QUOTE=Rouleur;2431295]A few months ago, mainly because I can afford it, I paid the $k+ price to spend time with SB's that I guess most would consider a 10. My type of 10 is tall, thin, 21-mid 20's and European. Living in Las Vegas, this type is easy to find. I haven't written about them before because, frankly, I'm not as gifted at relating my experiences like some of the frequent contributors here. I met with 4 different SBs that met my type and all 4 were 5/6 in skills and below average in conversation. I understand for many Men here conversation doesn't rate but for me I like to do a dinner date with conversation and then desert in my suite. I don't blame the SBs for their mediocrity, I think they are so used to Men being so ga ga over their looks and presence that allowing penetration and swallowing should be enough. For me, I want more.
My most satisfactory dates have been my body type but more like an 8 in facial beauty. Very nice but not the "stop the room" knockout type of looks. My 8's tend to be confident about their looks but not completely relying on their beauty to carry them through the evening. I spend mid $$$ for the 8's time and affection and it seems a nice deal for both of us. I know many of you can get similar or better quality for less than what I donate, but I'm okay with what I pay and Las Vegas is such a large market I'm not worried about influencing the price index.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. I would love to hear more from guys that pay more and the type of girls and quality of dates they are experiencing. More as in at least $$$ or more (just for the girl) in the expectation of top shelf girls.
SA has been great for me. Haven't considered SD4 M. I'm meeting some quality college girls and my spending isn't anything too crazy. I can tell you that my main SB makes more from me than she would working a retail job or as a waitress. She's my main SB because she gets consistent sugar. I'm close to getting the GFE without all the hassle. She's my type, so I classify her as a 10 z. She's 5'9", Mixed, slim and pretty submissive yet wild in bed.
When I feel I'm getting too attached or she's not available I bring in my second string of new SB's that are okay with a nice date with no sugar or a small amount and FC. Lately, I've been running into my fare share of 30+ yr olds that only want NSA. Things are going well at the moment. I only had to renew my SA account once to pick up new inventory.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2430903]And compared to SD4M.
SA. Has way more girls.
SA. Has way more GPS girls.
SA. The GPS girls want way more than the SD4M GPS girls.
SA. Has far fewer black girls (as a percentage).
SA. The girls take way longer to respond.
SA. Overall prettier girls, college girls and career girls and real NP's.
SA. I think the overall site experience is better. But SD4M has some good features as well.
But for apprx. $50 each its still worth having them both for now.
Just an interesting FYI. As far as internet marketing goes. The SD sites are paying me far more than the many other dating sites I work for. Conclusion. The other mainstream sites are saturated and the SD world is growing. The only exception is eHarmony, especially when they are having a free weekend special.[/QUOTE]
Been awhile. I took a break from the bowl for the winter. I've been reading this thread though and wishing I had more time for it. And now I do. Back in as of last week. It's as crazy as ever. Of my winter SBs, only two are still responsive. One I'm hoping becomes responsive again, the rest I don't mind cutting loose.
I'm back in the M&G game. This week I had about 10 M&Gs scheduled, but only 5 happened. 1 canceled on me a day in advance, the rest didn't respond to my confirmation the day of.
M&G 1: 18 yr old spinner latina. Didn't seem DTF, was looking for more of a relationship. Way too nice of a girl to be on SA. She's been trying to text me a bit but I don't think anything's going to happen there. Didn't even bring up financials because I didn't think it was going to pan out.
M&G 2: 21 yr old butterface white co-ed. Think Chelsea Clinton in 2001. Way GPS. Claims her last SD gave her 600/ meet on top of a 2 k / month allowance. And she was looking for more than that. Yeah. Not so much.
For M&Gs 3-5 they were all within 30 minutes of each other. I had to juggle them a bit and had some consequences because of that. If I hadn't done so many M&Gs at this point, it would not have gone as well as it did.
M&G 3: 23 yr old hottie. This one I wasn't expecting too much from since her pictures were so so, but she wowed me in person. On top of that she was pretty chill, wasn't GPS (agreed on $$ Glad I met this one! Sadly I had to cut it short because I had a M&G down the block with.
M&G 4: 21 yr old blonde spinner. This one I was expecting to just not be real, frankly. She sent me nudes early on, sounded really kinky. Sure enough, she did not show up at our appointed time. Eventually she texted me, claimed lack of parking, I gave her some instructions, waited a bit, then gave up and went down the block to meet.
M&G 5: 21 yr old curvy brunette. This one I'd been trying to meet last summer, again before the holidays, and never connected. I had pegged her for a non-pro, and while she's clearly done this before, I didn't get that vibe in person. Really nice lips on this one, will be fun. Things started off ok, but got awkward when M&G #4 from above kept calling and texting me. #5 got weirded out in a big way. Thought maybe I was recording the conversation or something. Not sure what spooked her, but I talked her down. Then I took the next call from the pot, pretended like it was a work call, then acted like I had to run back to work with #4. I apologized profusely, and smoothed everything out. She gave me her address, we negotiated a tentative price (which I'm hoping to bring down), and then I ran back to meet #4. Only 15 minutes spent on this M&G.
M&G 4. 1: Jesus this girl was exactly like SB#2 from the summer. Very pretty, great body, very kinky, eager to get to the FC (which I had no time for). Really cool and funny, too. In bad shape financially. But GPS. At the very tail end of our conversation, I finally brought up finances. When I told her I'd had girls ask for everything from 0 to $1 k, she thought I was willing to pay $1 k and jumped right up to that number. Took some clarification to let her know that's not what I was able to give and we left it a bit awkwardly at the end as I needed to get back to my routine.
The next day I reached out to 3,4, and 5. 3 and 5 got back to me right away as I expected. 4 not too surprisingly didn't, so that may have been a waste after all. All in all: 1 very promising POT with a date setup (#3), 1 somewhat promising POT with a date setup (#5), and maybe a wildcard in play with #4.
Next week I have at least 3 M&Gs on one day. Might end up with 1 or 2 more. It will be. Interesting to say the least.
Also, I mentioned this previously, but I'm using a spreadsheet to keep track of the POTs because there's so damn many of them. If you're in my area and want to compare notes, let me know and I can share it with you.
Agreed. Make the request via email. If they respond by refusing, or fail to respond at all, just contact your cc company to challenge the charge. If you have an email showing denial of service after you made payment, most cc companies will reverse the charge.
Of course if you have an SO and don't want a letter from your cc company stating that the dispute was resolved, you can either change your settings to all online only communication with your cc company.
As for the potential AG/DA referral, I'd probably recommend against that. More so because the customer service rep who is reviewing your emails is probably an outsourced peon, who probably works for a third party contractor hired by SA that is located in Asia, or Latin America. They probably won't care and you probably don't want your message including a statement that you were trying to purchase services from a website that was engaging in activity that you yourself recognize might be considered questionable.
[QUOTE=VAJimbo;2431596]I would demand my money back! You should point out are steeling your money! You can also point out that there are no shortage of AG's / DAs out there that are more than interested in any questionable biz practices or illegal doings they specifically may be involved with!
Demand your month or your money back immediately, you could also have your credit card push them.[/QUOTE]
Why do POTS all have to message at once?
Got like four that HMU already today.
Trying to see two of them.
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2432380]Agreed. Make the request via email. If they respond by refusing, or fail to respond at all, just contact your cc company to challenge the charge. If you have an email showing denial of service after you made payment, most cc companies will reverse the charge.
Of course if you have an SO and don't want a letter from your cc company stating that the dispute was resolved, you can either change your settings to all online only communication with your cc company.
As for the potential AG/DA referral, I'd probably recommend against that. More so because the customer service rep who is reviewing your emails is probably an outsourced peon, who probably works for a third party contractor hired by SA that is located in Asia, or Latin America. They probably won't care and you probably don't want your message including a statement that you were trying to purchase services from a website that was engaging in activity that you yourself recognize might be considered questionable.[/QUOTE]I already tried that, but SA is using their "no refunds" stance to screw me over. I'm disputing the charge with my CC company.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2432753]Why do POTS all have to message at once?
Got like four that HMU already today.
Trying to see two of them.[/QUOTE]So far all four of them went mia. These girls are weird sometimes. Started talking to a few others. This shit is discouraging me today.
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Also, I mentioned this previously, but I'm using a spreadsheet to keep track of the POTs because there's so damn many of them. If you're in my area and want to compare notes, let me know and I can share it with you.[/QUOTE]I should have mentioned. I'm in the Boston area.
[QUOTE=Mfp79;2433030]I should have mentioned. I'm in the Boston area.[/QUOTE]I am in Hartford area.
Todays POTS.
Girl 1 - 19 years 4'11" 92 lbs. Traced the pic to her BP ad. But that body deserves a spin for a $. She uses the same pic on her SA profile.
Girl 2 - 18 years 5'6" 115 lbs? Non pro bi girl. Totally real. Skittish but too hot to ignore for a $. Says she is on board.
Girl 3 - is another pic of girl 2.
Girl 4 - 19 5'2" 120 lbs? Student. Says she will take the train 60 miles to me. Totally on board.
Girl 5 - 19 5'2" still an unknown at this point.
Girl 6 - 31 5'1" tiny MILF. Totally on board.