LOL. I'm done with this board.
Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'. It seems that any review that doesn't reflect one's total and complete adulation for a provider is seen as unnecessary. I can't agree with that, as I see the board as not only a place to find those must-see providers, but to avoid those problematic as well.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. Maybe the whole story hasn't come out yet, but I've seen the psychosis that exists in that woman first hand and on here, and the PM's from someone else have indicated some very disturbing behavior that is indefensible. In this recent case, she was so pissed about having even the slightest negative comment about her scheduling snafus, that she went as far as responding to the review on e. Com USING THE GUY'S REAL FIRST AND LAST NAME. He had to complain to e. Com to get it removed. Then she did it again, and he again had to get it removed. I actually saw the review in question with her response including his name. It's gone now by e. Com's removal, but the behavior here is unbelievable. Even giving her the bennefit of the doubt, would one really trust her after her willingness to post the real name of someone trying to see her on an e. Com review? I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk. I've seen a provider recommended glowingly on here who was in frequent legal trouble and subject to surprise LE visits and inspections. It was an INCALL appt, and put me at risk. Yet that was never reported by her "fans. " Who in the hell would not want to know these kinds of things beforehand?
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service. Even one threatened "don't post a review". And if one does post something less than glowing about a fav, the old faithful run to defend and dispute the accuracy. I understand YMMV, and every provider is capable of having a bad day, lack of chemistry, personal problems getting in the way, etc. But why is that info not worthwhile? I'm not interested in a one-sided view. I want balance. The good and the bad, so I can make an informed decision about whether it's worth my time and money to see someone or more importantly, whether it's even SAFE to see someone. That being discouraged helps no one. Well, except for the providers some may want to avoid. It's a great environment in which they can thrive with no fear of being called out for lousy service or disturbing or even unsafe behavior.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2
Obviously you have been hit with PM's
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1083361]Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'. It seems that any review that doesn't reflect one's total and complete adulation for a provider is seen as unnecessary. I can't agree with that, as I see the board as not only a place to find those must-see providers, but to avoid those problematic as well.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. Maybe the whole story hasn't come out yet, but I've seen the psychosis that exists in that woman first hand and on here, and the PM's from someone else have indicated some very disturbing behavior that is indefensible. In this recent case, she was so pissed about having even the slightest negative comment about her scheduling snafus, that she went as far as responding to the review on e. Com USING THE GUY'S REAL FIRST AND LAST NAME. He had to complain to e. Com to get it removed. Then she did it again, and he again had to get it removed. I actually saw the review in question with her response including his name. It's gone now by e. Com's removal, but the behavior here is unbelievable. Even giving her the bennefit of the doubt, would one really trust her after her willingness to post the real name of someone trying to see her on an e. Com review? I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk. I've seen a provider recommended glowingly on here who was in frequent legal trouble and subject to surprise LE visits and inspections. It was an INCALL appt, and put me at risk. Yet that was never reported by her "fans. " Who in the hell would not want to know these kinds of things beforehand?
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service. Even one threatened "don't post a review". And if one does post something less than glowing about a fav, the old faithful run to defend and dispute the accuracy. I understand YMMV, and every provider is capable of having a bad day, lack of chemistry, personal problems getting in the way, etc. But why is that info not worthwhile? I'm not interested in a one-sided view. I want balance. The good and the bad, so I can make an informed decision about whether it's worth my time and money to see someone or more importantly, whether it's even SAFE to see someone. That being discouraged helps no one. Well, except for the providers some may want to avoid. It's a great environment in which they can thrive with no fear of being called out for lousy service or disturbing or even unsafe behavior.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2[/QUOTE]I agree whole heartily with what you have said in this post, and agree that this forum is for everyone to post their experience, be it good or bad. This forum "I thought" was for the communication of experience a hobbist has with providers. Not the defense of a certain one or two. I also agree that someone should be able to post something positive, if they feel they should. There really isn't very many rules for these boards.
I really thought these boards were for the hobbist to communicate the experience, not pass it on in back channels. I for one would like to know if someone is working the other side, or if they are minimal for big $. I am a tight wad and want my monies worth, and I really hate to TOFTT so to speak. I do that often enough. If we can't freely pass our information here, then we are back to before the internet when we drove down the road and looked, hoping it wasn't LE or cash & dash, or worse, or we had to go to a service, and pay the up front fees, and any extras that might "pop" up.
Now, one post is what I saw that came close to slamming, so I really don't know about all the drama of not continuing. I agree the board could be better, but if it were perfect, it would be no fun.
I'm Just Sayin.
Galere
My final response on the subject
[QUOTE=Ilapp;1083241]A lot of talk about local vs. Visiting providers, and some validity to some of what has been said, but certainly can't agree with a lot of it. I would like to add that Catelyne is a personal favorite and I see her often and don't seem to have any scheduling problems with her, she has always gone out of her way to make my time frames work with her.[/QUOTE]I'm glad you had a different experience with her. My first visit was fantastic, but again, trying to schedule a second visit numerous times with several cancellations was unprofessional and disrespectful to the thing I find most valuable, time.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]I have notice most of the slamming of local providers is coming from newer board members. Now this does not mean they are new to the hobby. I am one that truly understands finding someone that fills a special need in my heart and loins. Most of the time this relates to a lady covered in angle kisses. So I can understand the posts about not getting what you want from some of the local providers. However so, it's no reason to slam them on open board, because we all have our personal preferences. Take your comments behind the scenes.[/QUOTE]That is somewhat true. Not getting what you want from a personal preference side is just that, personal. The beauty of an open message forum is that information can be shared for the benefit of many. If that information can be used to help others not endure the same negative experience, why should that remain private? The other ingredient is trust from the information's source. In the case of this board, that is accomplished by post count and / or provider references. It's also possible for senior members to "vouch" for someone with a low post count as not everyone feels the need to actively participate (there are LOTS of "lurkers".
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]As far as Catelyne goes, she is a busy woman, because she is one of the more desired providers in town. She travels often and is just wonderful company in and out of the bedroom. She does not like hobbyists that can't make up their minds on if they have the contribution or when they keep changing appt times.[/QUOTE]And hobbyists don't like it when she does the same.
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]The unsubstantiated stories you hear about her supposed troubles in FW have no impact on any of our safety or discretion issues.[/QUOTE]Actually, they do have an impact. Unsubstantiated or not, they are cause for concern and allow the rest of us to perform our due diligence to make an informed decision. If even the rumor is out there and you have not seen that provider, would it be enough for you to pass? Maybe, maybe not. The important part is you had access to the information and were prepared to make wiser decisions.
The bottom line is I had a bad experience and decided to share it. I thought I did a good job of not slamming her personally and stated my reason for being upset was her lack of time management. From there, she went off the deep end and decided to get even by falsifying information and reviews on another site. Those reviews had to be altered by the admin as she also decided to post my PERSONAL INFORMATION in public view. Ask yourself how trustworthy THAT is. How would YOU react when YOUR PII was on public display?
If any senior members do not believe me, I have the emails to prove everything I have said. E. Com has "warned" her twice about it, but I think she needs to be banned. Taking things to that level is inexcusable. I could very easily do the same to her, but I will not cross those lines. I have not contacted her since an email exchange on Sunday and I do not intend to. If she takes it any further, I will handle it the legal way and do everything within my rights this great country provides to protect myself. Please don't ASSUME anything by that statement.
Use your brain to decide who is the "unstable liar" here.
I'm done talking about it in public, but if anyone wants to know more, PM me.
Wonder what it means to us but.
[QUOTE=Fudge1;442694]She still advertises on escorts dot com[/QUOTE]I would steer clear of E. Com for the time being. Seems as though their parent company got raided. Like I said I don't know what that means for hobbyist's but we'll see. See link below.
http://www.mikesouth.com/legal/hotmovies-raid-prostitution-related-4306/
Wow Did I hit a nerve or what
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2; 1083361]Well, I'm obviously one of the "new" guys guilty of "slamming" on this board. I guess my view of what makes this board work for us is very different from others'.
I honestly have no idea how anyone could defend the likes of Cate. I've had others pm me in the past about her willingness to give BBFS, which puts everyone at risk.
I've been less than fully honest here about girls recently because of this kind of crap too, feeling the need to simply stay quiet about someone giving disappointing service.
So, I see no reason to continue here for me. The reviews are unreliable when anything negative is discouraged, and good info is compromised. I see no value in that.
TA2[/QUOTE]Sorry I hit a nerve. God you must be really self-conscious to think my post was directed towards you. What I stated was:
[QUOTE=Freckle Freak;1083320]I have noticed most of the slamming of local providers is coming from newer board members.[/QUOTE]I said and meant MOST, not all, sorry I should have capitalized it so you wouldn't read it as "A New Guy". As far as some of your other comments:
Regarding "BBFS": Maybe you should check some past posts on your wonderful "T". I think there is some reference there and some biblical knowledge. Oh and guys on this board never stretch the truth right? Sorry we are not all as honest as you. Besides as long as you stay covered, your not likely to catch anything that most of the providers boyfriends or girlfriends will give them with their daily uncovered sex. Oh wait, everyone of them has sex fully covered like you and your wife do, right?
Regarding "Dissapointing Service": No, we want you to speak up. My whole point was not to slam on open board time after time. That is what PM's are for. This guards the YMMV factor in each of us. Also guess what. There are some providers I really didn't like, and gave a short won't repeat report. Seems like this generated enough PM's asking why and I was happy to answer.
Regarding "I see no reason to continue": Best comment out of the entire post.
One thing I have to ask before you leave. Your Britt, the traveling provider, the one you raved about in so many posts. I see you read her reviews. Did you ask others about her GFE services, did you research at all? I ask because of your recent post on her as seen below.
[QUOTE=Tryinagain2;1083074]Not as GFE as I'd like and I still have a few more favs,[/QUOTE]How could you have been so wrong by not making certain she was "As GFE", as you would have liked! Is this a good review or bad? Are you really being truthful? NO embelishment at all, right? By the way, what is your definition of GFE, bet it's different than mine.
FF.
PS. See it's all YMMV and mine are freckles. The more the freckles the more the mileage.