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[QUOTE=HappyDave;6672868]No one just leaves North Korea so if that was happening its a completely different situation. Every Korean AMP girl I ever met was from the south. I very often strike up a conversation with them after where they are from, whether they are local or from flushing. There may be a very different level between the apartment brothels and store front parlors. I only know the store fronts.[/QUOTE]Can you distinguish s Korean accent from and Korean accent?

I guess even you would believe fake Japanese prostitutes say they are Japanese (who are paid more than Chinese cause there is desperate demanding on Japanese women in Hawaii) in Hawaii.

As most foreigners can not distinguish your American English from Australian or British, you can not I guess.

Did they actually allow photo shoots or was that purely a rouse?

Also, do you think the money actually went to the 3 who were charged? I'm guessing the money (and documents) left the US and will never be recovered and the 3 who were arrested were just decoys (I'm imaging they grabbed 3 criminals on death row and offered them this job -- why would they refuse?

[QUOTE=Bosnas;6671942][URL]https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/boston-brothel-mass-sex-trafficking/3186274/[/URL]

Of note.

"But who those sex buyers were remained a mystery on Thursday. Federal authorities were mum on the subject at the news conference, saying that any arrests for the purchase of sex would happen at the state level the three people charged this week are accused of violating federal sex trafficking law."

Basically they are shifting the blame for the lack of any action to the state, they know MA can't do anything unless they catch people in the act.[/QUOTE]In your opinion, do you think this was the reason we didn't see much action from the other busts in the state? Not sure if it would fall into the same boat since the feds are involved but handled at the state level.

[QUOTE=JsppsgFun4;6671681]Hello Boston brothers,

Just wanted to post a rolling stone article. With a former federal prosecutors take on the underlying reasons behind it. Noteworthy that he explicitly says the amount of resources devoted to SW that was not involuntary caught my eye as well as what he believes. I don't think the owners / management would be dumb enough to try and extort powerful clients but I do have could believe that some of these really high level people mentioned repeatedly are feared to be vulnerable to being compromised etc.

[URL]www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/feds-bust-high-end-bothel-1234873115/amp/[/URL]

Stay safe.[/QUOTE]My guess is this will turn into a political weapon, since the department on the left hand of the powers in charge must have some big people on the other side they want to take out. Maybe revenge for Eric Swallow OR figure our how to charge trump. LOL.

Is there any insight on weather clients can be charged / have been charged in the past for busts like this. Does anyone think any mongers here would get hit if they have texts but not ID's?

[QUOTE=CCChunks;6673294]My guess is this will turn into a political weapon, since the department on the left hand of the powers in charge must have some big people on the other side they want to take out. Maybe revenge for Eric Swallow OR figure our how to charge trump. LOL.[/QUOTE]As the saying goes, no person is above the law--Eliot Spitzer's party affiliation didn't help him when he was charged, and the special agent in charge of this investigation also happens to be a registered Republican.

This bust is another proof that you should not give your personal info during screening. Glad I never went to any of these agencies that ask for so much info. Not the first time an agency or escort is busted and the clients info ends up with the cops.

Good news is that there is so many clients that most won't be charged though the cops could go demon mode and publicly release all the info which would be punishment enough.

[QUOTE=Hakuran169;6673453]Is there any insight on weather clients can be charged / have been charged in the past for busts like this. Does anyone think any mongers here would get hit if they have texts but not ID's?[/QUOTE]Don't worry that much, man. You will be fine. Your boss is probably on the list too!

And to think just a few hours drive north paying a beautiful girl for sex is perfectly legal….#ocanada #mapleleafs

[QUOTE=Guillaume123;6673553]This bust is another proof that you should not give your personal info during screening. Glad I never went to any of these agencies that ask for so much info. Not the first time an agency or escort is busted and the clients info ends up with the cops.

Good news is that there is so many clients that most won't be charged though the cops could go demon mode and publicly release all the info which would be punishment enough.[/QUOTE]Some folks use fake names and such and could really hurt if they blindly dismissed the info without ensuring every single name is credible. That could result in slander lawsuits for sure. If you're not being charged, they won't release any info at all. And as others have said, if you're not caught in the act, they can't really do a whole lot.

I don’t even think the phone numbers and texts are enough. Unless they had a wire tap to their number which aren’t all encompassing. Truth is, deny deny deny. If anyone ever approaches you, deny. Even if they have your picture, deny. Even if they have you explicitly saying things, deny.

If you’re a Joe Schmoe, they won’t care. They already bagged the ring leaders. The site is down. They will probably handle some high profile guys if they want to set precedence and make an example. But to throw all info to the wind and just shame folks? No. Too messy. Doesn’t solve anything. Too much liability. Just ruining families for the sake of ruining families.

[QUOTE=HappyDave;6672868]No one just leaves North Korea so if that was happening its a completely different situation. Every Korean AMP girl I ever met was from the south. I very often strike up a conversation with them after where they are from, whether they are local or from flushing. There may be a very different level between the apartment brothels and store front parlors. I only know the store fronts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nrlmus;6672394]I don't know man. One of the most popular providers of BTT used to tell me that BTT began hiring North Koreans after she left them. In fact one of the reasons she left them was because they would bring North Korean girls that would do anything. I mean that's what she told me and who am I to doubt her? Now the FEDs are saying that it's not only prostitution ring but a Chinese espionage ring and FEDs never embellish things as far as I know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KOF96;6672899]Can't tell if that last statement is supposed to be sarcastic, would you take the special agent's word based on his knowledge and expertise on M. Butterfly whorecraft? Changing the subject, if you do the math and say as many as 6 providers were servicing 10 johns a day over the course of nearly 3 years, day in day out, and that the surveillance apparently started from the agency's inception, that's a lot of moolah they allowed to be built up in order to seize (more than just used Corvette money). Like the Bellevue bust, that's really what it comes down to, puritanical proselytizing aside. I just wonder if they also shook the providers down like in WA, the affidavit makes them sound like afterthoughts for the most part despite the trafficking angle.[/QUOTE]I can't believe that some people are taking the shit I say about North Korea seriously but I swear to God that my story about one of the, if not 'the', most popular former BTT providers trying to convince me to stop going to BTT because they began hiring North Koreans who all infected with jaundice are truth and nothing but the truth. I'm sure many could guess who I'm talking about too. LOL.

[QUOTE=Wockser;6673785]Some folks use fake names and such and could really hurt if they blindly dismissed the info without ensuring every single name is credible. That could result in slander lawsuits for sure. If you're not being charged, they won't release any info at all. And as others have said, if you're not caught in the act, they can't really do a whole lot.

I dont even think the phone numbers and texts are enough. Unless they had a wire tap to their number which arent all encompassing. Truth is, deny deny deny. If anyone ever approaches you, deny. Even if they have your picture, deny. Even if they have you explicitly saying things, deny.

If youre a Joe Schmoe, they wont care. They already bagged the ring leaders. The site is down. They will probably handle some high profile guys if they want to set precedence and make an example. But to throw all info to the wind and just shame folks? No. Too messy. Doesnt solve anything. Too much liability. Just ruining families for the sake of ruining families.[/QUOTE]Except the article by NBC show they have interviewed dozens of mongers from this bust and are interviewing more and gathering evidence. This is not just some high profile guys.

I guess they could release the client list but I've talked with other mp girls and have been told some men, especially older, don't have sex. They pay for a massage a little intimacy but no sex. How can someone be charged if the sex act can't be proven? Releasing client list without charges shames but is it legal?

"But to throw all info to the wind and just shame folks? No. Too messy. Doesn't solve anything. Too much liability. Just ruining families for the sake of ruining families. " They think by shaming the customer the crime of sex slavery will be curtailed. They think having sex with slaves should have consequences.

[BLUE]A bunch of guys are asking to get their accounts deleted because of this. It's fucking stupid, after 20 years and 8 million posts not a single one has ever been used in anyway legally. Not for arrests, warrants, subpoena, nothing because when they ask us to authentic you guys (they don't even ask anymore) we only have one answer "how the fuck do we know." If we can't authenticate you that's it game over, look it up and then chill the fuck out.

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