[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7162683]She'd rather leave than offer a more competitive rate? Not even as a trial run?! Got it.[/QUOTE]Would you lower your own salary or seek out a different company / area?
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[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7162683]She'd rather leave than offer a more competitive rate? Not even as a trial run?! Got it.[/QUOTE]Would you lower your own salary or seek out a different company / area?
Only Freesia and Daisy aka Celine are consensus thumbs up among SBC lineup. I saw Daisy at $350 and she was nice however I don't feel she is $600 worthy to me. I missed out on Freesia. Rest of SBC girls are with mixed reviews and I ain't gambling extra doughs. Still more proven and competitive girls at $320-$350 level.
I believe Jisoo is gone for higher rate. Also Miranee was even booked by KGLA and AsianVibe at one point recently, so that justified what I said about not being too concerned about the drama behind her name change.
[QUOTE=Kent747;7162968]Jisoo is apparently fully booked and Miranee also booked up full last two days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7162981]I believe Jisoo is gone for higher rate. Also Miranee was even booked by KGLA and AsianVibe at one point recently, so that justified what I said about not being too concerned about the drama behind her name change.[/QUOTE]CGLA indicating Amy is also full.
I am a sucker for premium girls. Do you think I would gate keep if I thought a premium girl was superior? Baby Sohee, Avery, Gyuri feel like a rebrand. The Boners Club does not believe Gyuri was Baby Gyuri / Baby Hyejin. Baby Zoe duo with Baby Blue / Baby Bora so she must have been around too. Who knows about Amelia. You can't judge MILF from fake pics. Only The Boner may be qualified to judge from pics.
Having said that, your choices don't feel clearly like MILFs. Somebody still have to TOFTT.
Doesn't Baby Cupid look thicc to you? I don't think real pics either.
[QUOTE=Madickbiggs;7162488]Hmmmm this is interesting, so I guess even though she was an SBC girl with the 410 no bb charge she's pretty huh? I read some not so stellar stories about them. Before going to these forums, I used to go in blind with these korgs LOL now I learned a lot from here and saved me a lot of money hahaha. I just tend to repeat my personal favorites but I can TOFTT as long as the girl does not seem like a MILF from the pics. I am considering one of the new girls such as baby Zoe, Sohee, Avery, Amelia, or Gyuri (as long as this is not the baby gyuri as that girl was much cheaper than this 600 price). I used to TOFTT all the time for myself anyway XD.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for this warning about Gyuri / Jisoo.
[QUOTE=BBBhahaha;7160460]I heard Jisoo is going to OC next week and will raise her rate to $600 without BB. So she was 320 for a few days and grew to 350, now will be 600.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=Kamehame;7160551]B Nyan is young close to pic service not great everything else good. Good overall. No point in video with her would recommend.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. Premium or not, I will be a happy Boner if the bosses provide new HYA every week / two. Let's hope Baby Ravi doesn't raise her rate next few days LOL.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7162862]P: Definitely not her, they even used one of Freesia's old ad pics. The overall impression they want to make is that she has short hair and is cute.
L: Super cute face, I did not ask but she looks all natural, what caught me off guard was that she looks more Chinese than Korean. Short jet-black hair falls to her chin. Small round face with slightly plumb lips and button nose. She's 5'2" and early 20's in my estimation. Natural perky B's was a delight to play with. And it's been such a long time since I've been fortunate enough to encounter a petite bubble butt that I lost hope. All natural here too, firm and resilient. Pussy was shaped perfectly with a bit of stubble. Pale skin complexion with no tattoos that I could see. And here's her main draw folks: she's an exemplary spinner. Tight and toned with an actual hourglass figure. I christen her Super Cute Young Asian (SCYA)...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7163011]Thanks for sharing. Premium or not, I will be a happy Boner if the bosses provide new HYA every week / two. Let's hope Baby Ravi doesn't raise her rate next few days LOL.[/QUOTE]
Higher rates will attract and keep better girls. HYA lovers should consider Baby Ravi. We all know many people don't have our budgets, it's okay. If anything, those on a budget have too many girls in their harem. Think positive.
HYA hunters already have what they need to aim true, shot after shot, until their quiver runs dry. I just got intel on Minji that she is a "cute HYA with a great body but can be weak on service". Right? I checked and highlighted the parts of the description which predicted so to confirm no update was needed. It is the greatest pleasure when rosters are prophetic.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7162108#post7162108[/URL] HYA, BB Special, Budget GFE roster
[I]Minji - HYA. [B]Nice young body[/B], good face, petite, dark skin, sharp tan line, my best guess is 25-30, nice MMs. Some resemblance to Yeji's face but darker skin tone and wider nose, softer face line. [B]Looks over service[/B], [B]body over face[/B], knows how to ride but [B]passive otherwise[/B]. [B]Bring your own service[/B] and take the lead. Little English.[/I]
It reminds me when King Henry VIII would ask for portraits (ads photos) of suitable wives, and was so disappointed when Anne of Cleves was PS'd way better than she looked. He never used that painter again.
Some guys have worked hard for their money, enjoy it. Premium girl or not. I only give budget advice because I know many others can choose just one. They aren't Tatewaki Kuno who can "date them both". Whether your budget is high or low, each one of us has a vast harem.
The Ottoman Sultan could host a harem of hundreds of women to choose from. He could have a new woman each day (TOFTT), or the same woman every day (ATF). But actually, his mother ruled the harem (agency) and had the privilege of presenting her hand-picked candidates (roster) before the Sultan. All he had to do was point, and his booking was confirmed. The woman was then whisked off by eunuchs to be groomed, bathed, perfumed, dressed. A process that could take three to four hours, rather than being on short notice like today. Although rebrands would be outrageous in the harem, you were stuck with the girl you choose. You had no idea what the girl could do (menu) or how good she was (tier). No other guy was banging them and writing guides (the union). Each woman who produced a male heir would be given special status, particularly the first few (the OG). When the Sultan died, one heir would become the new Sultan, and his slave mother the new master of the harem. With few exceptions nearly every single Ottoman Sultan was the son of a slave woman.
Things are much better with our harems today. Always look on the bright side.
I actually posted on the wrong forum. I see what you guys are saying. Thanks for the information. I will be TOFTT soon and will DM the guys on the new girls. I have been busy and been recovering from illness and am busy with life.
Choco / Lila isn't attractive—plain and simple.
Even with rising costs, hiring an escort is still more affordable than having a wife.
I don't mind paying, as long as the girl is hot.
If everyone stopped paying more than $300, the market would naturally adjust.
The only reason there's an upcharge for BBFS is because of demand and people willing to pay for it.
They are going up because there is a bad actor in town. For those that know, the hierarchy in a korg is Boss, Booker, Kgirl. There is a new boss that is recruiting the potential HYAs and convincing them that mongers will pay 400 or more for GFE and then listing them with various bookers to see if it takes off, and if it does, then that's the price if not they have no choice but to drop the price. Sometimes they will change the name and sometimes they will not. E. g. Barbie / Peaches / Green. Any girl you see listed at 400+ for GFE is part of this boss's initiative. Vote with your wallet to keep prices down!
Unfortunately there are a lot of high-rollers out there who are more than willing to shell out 400-500 bucks for a sesh. Man, When it was 200-220 bucks before, I used to to g twice a week. But now, I just do it if I have extra.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7163379]They are going up because there is a bad actor in town. For those that know, the hierarchy in a korg is Boss, Booker, Kgirl. There is a new boss that is recruiting the potential HYAs and convincing them that mongers will pay 400 or more for GFE and then listing them with various bookers to see if it takes off, and if it does, then that's the price if not they have no choice but to drop the price. Sometimes they will change the name and sometimes they will not. E. g. Barbie / Peaches / Green. Any girl you see listed at 400+ for GFE is part of this boss's initiative. Vote with your wallet to keep prices down![/QUOTE]
Baby Ravi and and Baby Nyan HYA btw. Consensus is not for filming though, just see her. MILF hunters run away, you know the drill.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7163379]They are going up because there is a bad actor in town. For those that know, the hierarchy in a korg is Boss, Booker, Kgirl. There is a new boss that is recruiting the potential HYAs and convincing them that mongers will pay 400 or more for GFE and then listing them with various bookers to see if it takes off, and if it does, then that's the price if not they have no choice but to drop the price. Sometimes they will change the name and sometimes they will not. E. g. Barbie / Peaches / Green. Any girl you see listed at 400+ for GFE is part of this boss's initiative. Vote with your wallet to keep prices down![/QUOTE]
Yes, you're not the only one with this intel and it happened just as the intel predicted, so it's real. We vote with our wallets.
I don't know the details but if what you clarified is true, that is good for both guys and girls. If true, many girls will not make it and will drop their price. It goes both ways here. We saw Barbie drop her price back to 360 the moment her name change was called out. And to be clear, that fix saved the booker and boss a lot of problems because customers who walk in on a rebrand without knowing are unhappy paying customers. Loyal customers. Don't make paying customers unhappy, you were just about to get their money into your hand but now they feel cheated or their day wasted. A rebrand is a miscommunication.
Whereas, many guys love Barbie and are happy to pay 10 more - she deserves it. A few may even pay 50 more and as long as it's upfront and clear who she is, that's fair. She's allowed to try. If it doesn't work, drop the price. The point is, don't change a girl's name. Anyone who walks in to see Barbie will be happy whatever price agreed on. People who see Douwoo will be confused or upset, particularly if they saw her and do not want to repeat her. One time is too many because they were your best loyal customers until now. That happened with Ppomi = Stephanie repeatedly. Certain guys are happy with Ppomi, so let them see her but don't trick others. Don't do this to paying customers ready to give you money. Your best customers know your other best customers.
It's actually okay to piss off non-paying customers to some degree. [B]If[/B] a HYA deserves 400 or 600 and gets fully booked, who cares about whining from people that don't see her. If.
I'll tell you the obvious, corgs figured out this dirty trick out looooong ago. [B]If[/B] a girl is top level exceptional, the correct way to price a girl is so she gets nearly fully booked. Let's say 500. Then drop her price in 1 or 2 weeks to 400 when people stop repeating. If.
[QUOTE=Download X;7143431]corgs rely on exclusive limited-tour pricing. For example, sometimes a girl starts at 500 / hr and then drops to 400 / hr a week later when the rich guys are done with her. And that same girl if she moved to a korg will charge 300-350 but no longer be in SGV where the best corg customers are anyways.
Lastly, look at Jenny in OC who is all-in at 320. She is the only bb inclusive HYA for months. She's literally younger AND better service than many other upcharge girls. But the thing is, she works a super long tour, so she is relying on repeat customers. The lower rate attracts guys who might see her 5 or 10 times. BTW Allie in SD is all-in 320 and top tier overall. Looks over service.
For very short tours, a higher rate makes more money. Corgs tend to host girls on very short tours, sometimes only for days. The jgirl I mention hopped from city to city, taking 10 dicks per day at every spot. If it dropped below 10 she changed corgs again. Just how it goes.[/QUOTE]
No one wants to hear this, but in chess you have to think like your opponent and analyze what their smartest move is. You don't like that your opponent will try that move, but to win at chess you think about their move and what your best move in response to it is. You can't just wish for your opponent to be dumb and make a bad move in your favor. So I am spelling out the move they just made and how we should think about it. Hope my logic is clear here.
Girls who are overpriced "but not worth it" hurt the brand and no one will trust them. Many people do not want to toftt SBC anymore. They were using Freesia to sell average girls at a premium, without offering Freesia. I have asked very many people who pre-booked Freesia or who tried to book her. Not one person got their booking. All cancelled.
[QUOTE=Download X;7162949]I think the main issue with Freesia was communication. But that's the problem of listing girls before they show up. It's why agencies normally never do this. But SBC kind of has to. They are selling other girls using Freesia. It is a meta B+S.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Resilient John;7163200]Part of it is marketing too. Most bookers list girls the day of or maybe the day before she starts. For whatever reason, most of SBC's girls don't work the usual 2-3 month that the visa waiver allows. My speculation is that it's a strategic move to advertise and amass prebookings while also giving the illusion of scarcity, akin to limited time runs of merchandise.. Book and find out, tell your friends, be the first to go to poundtown with her![/QUOTE]
In business this is called overbranding. Too many 300-350 girls priced 370-410 at SBC, too few Freesias. OG korgs understand when customers are paying a lot of money, you make them happy. When you have premium prices, make sure they are premium girls.
I have said before the biggest problem is if they take unknown girls and set random high prices on them. This hurts the agency, the girls often turn out bad. Every guy reacts different to a "normal girl", some were happy some weren't. [B]But if you don't like the girl and she's 380 not even worth 300, then that just sucks and you're not coming back.[/B] That is the real problem with overpricing, you lose repeat customers. My rosters used to describe the 380 girl so that only happy guys will see her, and guys who don't like her won't. Easy money there, that girl will notice guys walking in the door already happy to see her type. Not all money is the same, that's easy money.
Describe the girl accurately. One SBC model was "model like". No. Another SBC girl used a hot IG photo but..wasn't. No. You know what the thai org does with their MILFs? They dare to post actual MILF pics and a guy who wants MILFs sees them. Yes.
[QUOTE=AsianBaller1;7163234]Choco / Lila isn't attractiveplain and simple.
I don't mind paying, as long as the girl is hot.[/QUOTE]
Multiple people said the same in private when I asked about her. Agencies don't know how good they really are until they test them out. So test them first.
[QUOTE=Download X;7161341]Among the premium priced girls 370 and up recently, I won't list all the examples of MILFs, thick girls, below average girls. I'll just list the 20% exceptions, and that is Daisy. [B]Daisy and Freesia were thoroughly tested out BEFORE they raised their rate[/B].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;7163502]Unfortunately there are a lot of high-rollers out there who are more than willing to shell out 400-500 bucks for a sesh. Man, When it was 200-220 bucks before, I used to to g twice a week. But now, I just do it if I have extra.[/QUOTE]
I'm a high-roller I guess. I'm willing to shell out 600 or 800 or 1000 for a sesh. But only for a girl worth that much. I pay 200 all the time in Japan, to this day. June 2024, I paid 140 for 70 minutes soapland and the girl I picked was better than most kgirls. I know value. So why did I pay 800 before then? She was Elsa. I saw her twice even, I'd see her more if she's back. What about the 1000? I can't show you. It was worth it and I'd do it again, but many other girls are not worth even 300. All I'm saying.
Just test out the girls first at normal prices. Go ahead and start at 350, make sure she's good. If guys keep repeating her and she's fully booked, raise her price. That's fair. I would even give a courtesy one-time discount to guys who repeat her at the higher price, don't even tell them until they book. Just say "Thank you for booking her again even at her at her new price. She is getting fully booked, we had no choice. But that was thanks to your support, so just this one time you get the old rate today". That is smart business because that repeat guy was the whole reason she is successful. You'll get his money back again anyways. He is a true fan if he's still with her - he voted for her as worth it. You want that guy to do it again for the next HYA next month btw. But keep it fair, a one-time discount only or there will be drama. It is fair because every customer in his situation gets the same rule. Only raise the price if the girl is actually popular btw.
By the way, corgs have done this pricing for decades but know it has a huge drawback. A girl cannot do premium pricing very long, usually days or weeks. Days or weeks. Then they get rid of her. Even Freesia and Daisy will turn slow if they have a long tour like Jenny. I know this for a fact. But as further proof, every single corg considers this basic common sense! Don't reinvent the wheel. Know that premium pricing only works short-term. I also know the next step in this chess game, but I won't explain the move until it happens. Don't copy corgs too hard, you run into the same problems. Lower prices make more money for 90% of girls btw.
The reason I spelled out the best strategy in detail is it's the only stable strategy. I don't want chaos over the next few weeks and months, or what happened with SBC to repeat. "Random high prices on unknown girls" is not a stable strategy. The best strategy is "a few proven girls that are much better get higher rates". No one else. In the long run, that will attract more and better talent. In the short run, people will be voting with their wallets.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7163379]They are going up because there is a bad actor in town. For those that know, the hierarchy in a korg is Boss, Booker, Kgirl. There is a new boss that is recruiting the potential HYAs and convincing them that mongers will pay 400 or more for GFE and then listing them with various bookers to see if it takes off, and if it does, then that's the price if not they have no choice but to drop the price. Sometimes they will change the name and sometimes they will not. E. g. Barbie / Peaches / Green. Any girl you see listed at 400+ for GFE is part of this boss's initiative. Vote with your wallet to keep prices down![/QUOTE]If what you're saying is true then it makes a lot of sense. The price hikes came surging out of nowhere. In that, there was no external factions that made sense (I. E. Economic pressures). Well, other than greed really. Also the pricing was all over the place, you had 380,410, 450,500, 600, and 650. It paints a picture of someone trying all manner of pricing structures without a clear and coherent goal in mind. Almost as if they just picked a number, threw it at a wall, and see what sticks.
You will always have those people that have different calculus in mind when seeing girls and money isn't one of them. That said, for the majority of us that are price sensitive, I would recommend to just not see anyone at those inflated prices. Others have already corroborated that the vast majority of these girls are not worth it (looks like Jasmin is the latest casualty). Instead, there ARE girls worth seeing at the normal rates. Baby Ravi, Baby Nyan, Nadia, and Lime are perfect examples of this. Hopefully soon, Lucy and Nali will join that list. Alternatively, you can wait for intel to come in about these girls and make a determination for yourself to pull the trigger or not.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7163678]Also the pricing was all over the place, you had 380,410, 450,500, 600, and 650. It paints a picture of someone trying all manner of pricing structures without a clear and coherent goal in mind. Almost as if they just picked a number, threw it at a wall, and see what sticks.[/QUOTE]Actually, that part is deliberate. We are currently in round 2 now. Good luck!
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7163678]Instead, there ARE girls worth seeing at the normal rates. Baby Ravi, Baby Nyan, Nadia, and Lime are perfect examples of this. [/QUOTE]
People keep recommending Nali to me. I know she's good because I know the people recommending her. But I can't see her! It's too far away! It reminds me when I kept telling Boner to see Jira even though she's ridiculously far away.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7163690]Actually, that part is deliberate. We are currently in round 2 now. Good luck!
People keep recommending Nali to me. I know she's good because I know the people recommending her. But I can't see her! It's too far away! It reminds me when I kept telling Boner to see Jira even though she's ridiculously far away.[/QUOTE]LOL, I'll try to charm Nali into thinking about touring OC, but I know I'll get a lot of slack from many here for taking her away from LA. She's a good blend of Viet Amy in personality and Evian in body minus the enhanced tits. You'll love her, I just know it.
[QUOTE=SpideyLennon;7163502]Unfortunately there are a lot of high-rollers out there who are more than willing to shell out 400-500 bucks for a sesh. Man, When it was 200-220 bucks before, I used to to g twice a week. But now, I just do it if I have extra.[/QUOTE]I miss the days where it was under 300 to see a girl and you could get BBFSCIP and MSOG if the girl liked you. I'm biased because I was lucky enough to get that with about 80% of the girls I saw, and I won't begrudge mongers that can now just pay to get BBFSCIP and MSOG guaranteed, but these prices are starting to get out of control. K-girls can make $20 K - $40 K per month depending on whether they want to work "just a little" or a lot, and all that money is tax-free. Trying to raise the rates now seems a little egregious, but perhaps that's just me.
[QUOTE=JackHolly;7163927]I miss the days where it was under 300 to see a girl and you could get BBFSCIP and MSOG if the girl liked you.[/QUOTE]
I got that even last year with Thai girls, obviously it is super YMMV. I don't know why but I am popular with them because many GFE Thai girls gave me free bb. Happily. They will do that if they like you. Probably why I saw them nonstop for 6 months until they each left town. The young ones often have very high libido, they were making sexual demands of me first - I asked for a blowjob and one told me no I have to eat her pussy first. WTF. They do NOT do kgirl service, thai service is freestyle which is different but not better or worse. I felt it was quite genuine, but again they liked me I'm sure it wouldn't be if that wasn't the case. So like a real girlfriend in my experience.
Let me introduce you to the best one I found. Real life Sith Lord Emily, she was half-Thai half-Chinese and she turned dozens of guys over to the bb Dark side by offering free BBFSCIP for 300. When she did her hair and make up, that's how she looked. She was heavily gatekept but when someone mentioned in-between her tours (that's how hushed they were) I joined in too when she returned. She turned me into a HYA hunter, she got me addicted to BB. She gave me 3 shots every time. Most Thai girls did and I'm normally a one shot guy just sometimes two. After I was done she would make coffee for me and we could chat as long as I wanted if there was not another customer. Like, totally normal friendly chat. Now you know why I don't pay attention to MILFs anymore, I was perfectly happy for MILFs for a decade until then.
You know how hard it is to return from the Dark side of bb? They made a whole Trilogy out of it. BB special is next level. Last I saw Allie in SD, she told me guys were seeing her from LA, she is 280 / 320. If LA prices keep going up maybe more guys will "drop by to see relatives" in OC and SD. I don't pry but maybe it's her looks or she speaks fluent Chinese. She's comparable to Ericka in looks and body type, soft large naturals. Allie and Jenny are the very last two HYA 320 bb special girls in socal. There is also Krissy at 340. I have to use a translator with her, her English is limited by contrast.
Krissy had the Allie and Ericka problem. She looked way better than her ad photos. So they rebranded Ericka with better ad photos, then updated Krissy's photos on the SKP website. You can find Allie's better ad photos as Mina.
[URL]https://www.skparadise.com/[/URL] SKP - cheapest bb special agency at 320 / 340
Of course once again, by yet another person, I have been informed that "if I liked Emily" with her looks and sex drive, I should try Nali. Well, only if she goes OC. Please send Nali to OC.
For those interested in Thai orgs or 320 bb special, I wrote a whole guide about it. Don't thank me, thank Emily.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7162108&viewfull=1#post7162108[/URl] OC/SD Budget bb and HYA
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37360-Korean-and-Thai-Agency-30-Plus&p=7159975&viewfull=1#post7159975[/URL] OC/SD Budget bb special and Thai orgs
Any fellow spinner lovers try out Ariel, Nakae, or Avery out? Looking to have a nice session this week. Was hoping to see Amy but was shocked to hear she is booked 9 days out!
You need to check out Baby Ravi, then Ariel. Resilient John called her [b]"the exemplary spinner"[/b]. Bbaka10 said [b]"God damn, that BODY"[/b].
Ariel was Boner Certified CYA. This is what I said about her "Fake pics, hot tight body, nice booty, very fun in bed. " You can search for her in this thread. Contact Ariel: [URL=https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/ariel](click here)[/URL]
Avery appeared to be a rebrand of Nalia according to ZebraZebra review in the other thread.
Nakae looks like a Jgirl from a Corg / Miya but I could be wrong. Somebody still needs to TOFTT.
[QUOTE=AmericanDog;7164009]Any fellow spinner lovers try out Ariel, Nakae, or Avery out? Looking to have a nice session this week. Was hoping to see Amy but was shocked to hear she is booked 9 days out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZebraZebra;7163968]Just saw Avery (Nalia). Fake pics obv, premilf, smooth pale skin, black hair, great endless slippery BBBJ and catbath, she speaks Chinese pretty fluently. Average build, very mommy like, exactly my type. Her pussy felt good, I could've nutted twice in a row without pulling out, but wasn't sure if I had msog money. Overall repeat yes and recommend yes if you like premilfs. Definitely reminds me of Estee.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7162862]...(Baby Ravi's) main draw folks: she's an exemplary spinner. Tight and toned with an actual hourglass figure. I christen her Super Cute Young Asian (SCYA)...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7163936]... God damn, that BODY. (Baby Ravi's) body is her best asset (body over looks). Her body is very tight and she's got a nice bubble butt...[/QUOTE]
Posted this in the OC forum, you can still get BBFS, MSOG with KGIRLS, but not in LA, I'm currently in the Bay Area and got a Nymph, Della. 300 for an hour, all in, BBFS, MSOG, she's hot AF and a freak. Work takes me to the Bay Area so I get my fill when I'm in town. If you ever find yourself in SJ, look her up. Also, blame the bookers for the state of the game in LA.
[QUOTE=JackHolly;7163927]I miss the days where it was under 300 to see a girl and you could get BBFSCIP and MSOG if the girl liked you. I'm biased because I was lucky enough to get that with about 80% of the girls I saw, and I won't begrudge mongers that can now just pay to get BBFSCIP and MSOG guaranteed, but these prices are starting to get out of control. K-girls can make $20 K - $40 K per month depending on whether they want to work "just a little" or a lot, and all that money is tax-free. Trying to raise the rates now seems a little egregious, but perhaps that's just me.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the detailed PLEASER review, Resilient John. I heard she planned to stay for 2 weeks but kbeauty said today her last day. Guess it didn't work out. I put her pics here in case she comes back.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7163586]P: Hallelujah! Pics are her's. Usual P.S. To glamourize her. First pic facing forward in pink dress is most representative.
L: She's more CYA than HYA. Lots of sparkly makeup on. Was wondering why she doesn't smile with teeth in the photos. She's got crooked teeth so heads up for those that are particular about the dental condition of those they see. She's more in the 5'4" range than the listed 5'1". She would be the definitive spinner if she was a couple inches shorter. So in my mind when I saw her I placed her in her mid-20's and during downtime she says she's 23. MM D's that are round and firm taking up a lot of volume and her skin is taunt there...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kamehame;7160551]B Nyan is young close to pic service not great everything else good. Good overall. No point in video with her would recommend.[/QUOTE]
Is she your favorite girl called Diana? I feel like Baby Moon / Baby Lady was called Diana before. I can't remember all these name changes. I wouldn't call Baby Moon "slightly chubby" but I heard she loves video games and starcraft or something. Also, Baby Moon / Baby Lady was Boner Certified in this thread too.
As far as best HYA DKF, not many girls I would have passionate DFK with but OC Dahlia was one. I don't actually want to DFK them unless they are super hot.
Contact Baby Moon in OC: [URL=https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-moon](click here)[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Madickbiggs;7123453]I saw this girl named Diana in the past very young 20-25 for sure. Height is 5'7-5'8 ish? Pale skin, slightly chubby, shoulder length hair and it its dyed. Her face is IMO the prettiest Korean face I've ever seen. This was around 2 years ago. She talks about playing video games and starcraft etc. Despite my searches on this site, I can't seem to find her old link or any information about her. This girl was literally the best looking but she stayed in LA for like a few weeks and disappeared. If anyone knows about this girl please please do let me know and I can give you a lot of info as well if you need info on certain girls specially in the LA area mostly HYAs. DM me please.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AmericanDog;7164009]Any fellow spinner lovers try out Ariel, Nakae, or Avery out? Looking to have a nice session this week. Was hoping to see Amy but was shocked to hear she is booked 9 days out![/QUOTE]Save your money for Baby moon or Amy.
Jerky off this week. If you have to fk, go with Moon.
The upcharge ruined my hobby for the past 3-4 years. It just feels like we need to go out and meet people instead. Paying for the upcharge has become dull—it's predictable and expected.
I'm confident, and I've had plenty of girls ask for my number in the past. But nowadays, most of them seem more focused on making money. Good for them if that's their goal, but it's just different now.
[QUOTE=JackHolly;7163927]I miss the days where it was under 300 to see a girl and you could get BBFSCIP and MSOG if the girl liked you. I'm biased because I was lucky enough to get that with about 80% of the girls I saw, and I won't begrudge mongers that can now just pay to get BBFSCIP and MSOG guaranteed, but these prices are starting to get out of control. K-girls can make $20 K - $40 K per month depending on whether they want to work "just a little" or a lot, and all that money is tax-free. Trying to raise the rates now seems a little egregious, but perhaps that's just me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Panchito33;7164325]Posted this in the OC forum, you can still get BBFS, MSOG with KGIRLS, but not in LA, I'm currently in the Bay Area and got a Nymph, Della. 300 for an hour, all in, BBFS, MSOG, she's hot AF and a freak. Work takes me to the Bay Area so I get my fill when I'm in town. If you ever find yourself in SJ, look her up. Also, blame the bookers for the state of the game in LA.[/QUOTE]It's the bosses and the girls, that impact the rates. Not the bookers.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7163678]If what you're saying is true then it makes a lot of sense. The price hikes came surging out of nowhere. In that, there was no external factions that made sense (I. E. Economic pressures). Well, other than greed really. Also the pricing was all over the place, you had 380,410, 450,500, 600, and 650. It paints a picture of someone trying all manner of pricing structures without a clear and coherent goal in mind. Almost as if they just picked a number, threw it at a wall, and see what sticks.
You will always have those people that have different calculus in mind when seeing girls and money isn't one of them. That said, for the majority of us that are price sensitive, I would recommend to just not see anyone at those inflated prices. Others have already corroborated that the vast majority of these girls are not worth it (looks like Jasmin is the latest casualty). Instead, there ARE girls worth seeing at the normal rates. Baby Ravi, Baby Nyan, Nadia, and Lime are perfect examples of this. Hopefully soon, Lucy and Nali will join that list. Alternatively, you can wait for intel to come in about these girls and make a determination for yourself to pull the trigger or not.[/QUOTE]Hey RJ, you can read my reviews, and you can see that I do not bullshit or shill. I tell it like it is. We all have preferences and will not agree on many on some girls because of that, but we do share wanting to get our money's worth in this hobby and not be price gouged by this new KG boss. The majority of hobbyists are not those who want to throw money away for the same value they get for about half of what they want. VOTE with your $$$ and spend it well. If anyone feels these girls aren't getting enough money for services, than tip them to your heart's content.
SBC Amelia finally starts today in LA. This girl has been on their site for ages and if she is anything close to her pictures then she is 1000% my type of k-girl. She is one of the premium ones at 450 hhr /500 hr for GFE. Hopefully some high rollers in this forum are kind enough to share intel if they indeed TOFTT. If she started in OC I might have pulled the trigger first but seeing as she begins her tour in LA hopefully we will learn some things in the next couple of days.
Yo! Anybody seen Baby Sohee yet? Not sure she's a rebrand or not.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7164555]It's the bosses and the girls, that impact the rates. Not the bookers.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be quick to dismiss bookers fee as part of the rise in price. One part of the overall donation rate is how much the bookers take is. If the bookers are asking for a bigger cut, that cost has to go somewhere. I don't the girl or boss is charitable enough to absorb that cost. As always shit rolls downhill and don't gets passed on to us mongers. It's not too far fetched for the larger bookers to demand more due to their reach. Imagine the bookers as storefronts, bosses the manufacturer, and girls the merchandise. If Walmart is knocking on your door looking to stock your merchandise but wants a bigger cut, then you do the math and decide. Usually the calculus is simple and you agree cause the access to potential customers is huge.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7164578]Hey RJ, you can read my reviews, and you can see that I do not bullshit or shill. I tell it like it is. We all have preferences and will not agree on many on some girls because of that, but we do share wanting to get our money's worth in this hobby and not be price gouged by this new KG boss. The majority of hobbyists are not those who want to throw money away for the same value they get for about half of what they want. VOTE with your $$$ and spend it well. If anyone feels these girls aren't getting enough money for services, than tip them to your heart's content.[/QUOTE]I don't use the Thai booker lately but they still do 200 hh. It's 300 hr. This gap no longer exists at korgs at the lower end. I have written before about my experiences, anyone interested can look at guides in the OC forum or find them on HX. I don't know about LA at all though but my ATFs mentioned it exists. I think I got lucky at the thai org because I found a few girls and stuck with them nonstop. I'm always thinking the next girl isn't going to be good, but it never happened. So I don't try to say they're all good yet in my experience every single one I got was. The reason I stopped using them often is they have less HYA than they used to. Sith Lord Emily was the second to last one, then the other one retired.
The thai org uses realistic photos (make sure to use HX so you see ALL of them they will mix in real unfiltered with a PS ad highlighted) so I could literally just see it was HYA and drop in when it happened. I do not rely on ad photos for korgs who knows what you get. Night and day difference between the two orgs on that point.
I know names get reused so it's hard to search for Emily, but her and other thai HYA featured in link below. ALL are retired don't bother asking, I wish I knew. Or rather, please tell me the moment they're working again. So now you know why I write elaborate HYA rosters for korgs because that's where I find them nowadays. Currently the OC thai org features Megan who is not my type (I like skinny) but clearly what other guys would look forward to. Service over looks but good looking imo. Photo accurate, not even PS.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7035464&highlight=thai#post7035464[/URL] Thai HYA.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7164555]It's the bosses and the girls, that impact the rates. Not the bookers.[/QUOTE]Not entirely true. Bookers all raised their rate collectively at one point, which caused agencies to increase the hourly rates in recent years. There's an entire backstory on what bookers did to get this done which I won't dive into.
This obviously doesn't apply to the 400+ or ridiculous upcharge kgirls. Although it does somewhat play into it tbh.
For rates, yes, it's the owners and the girls, but the bookers definitely add to drama, which then has a ripple effect on what girls want to stay, who they want to work for, etc. Which then affects which girls / bookers the bosses want, etc.
[QUOTE=Panchito33;7164325]Also, blame the bookers for the state of the game in LA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7164555]It's the bosses and the girls, that impact the rates. Not the bookers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mrworldwide89;7164718]SBC Amelia finally starts today in LA. This girl has been on their site for ages and if she is anything close to her pictures then she is 1000% my type of k-girl. She is one of the premium ones at 450 hhr /500 hr for GFE. Hopefully some high rollers in this forum are kind enough to share intel if they indeed TOFTT. If she started in OC I might have pulled the trigger first but seeing as she begins her tour in LA hopefully we will learn some things in the next couple of days.[/QUOTE]I hope those aren't just empty words. I'll hold you to them. According to their website, she's coming to OC on the 21st. If there's no reliable intel by then, can we all expect you to step up?
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7165083]I hope those aren't just empty words. I'll hold you to them. According to their website, she's coming to OC on the 21st. If there's no reliable intel by then, can we all expect you to step up?[/QUOTE]If there is no intel by the 21st then yes, duty calls.
New HYA. Measurements accurate and looks like the photos except whiter skin. Boobs likely MM, but feel real. Some random tattoos on her abdomen, foot, and backside. Very young and maybe a little new to this career which has its pros and cons.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7164936]I don't use the Thai booker lately but they still do 200 hh. It's 300 hr. This gap no longer exists at korgs at the lower end. I have written before about my experiences, anyone interested can look at guides in the OC forum or find them on HX. I don't know about LA at all though but my ATFs mentioned it exists. I think I got lucky at the thai org because I found a few girls and stuck with them nonstop. I'm always thinking the next girl isn't going to be good, but it never happened. So I don't try to say they're all good yet in my experience every single one I got was. The reason I stopped using them often is they have less HYA than they used to. Sith Lord Emily was the second to last one, then the other one retired.
The thai org uses realistic photos (make sure to use HX so you see ALL of them they will mix in real unfiltered with a PS ad highlighted) so I could literally just see it was HYA and drop in when it happened. I do not rely on ad photos for korgs who knows what you get. Night and day difference between the two orgs on that point.
I know names get reused so it's hard to search for Emily, but her and other thai HYA featured in link below. ALL are retired don't bother asking, I wish I knew. Or rather, please tell me the moment they're working again. So now you know why I write elaborate HYA rosters for korgs because that's where I find them nowadays. Currently the OC thai org features Megan who is not my type (I like skinny) but clearly what other guys would look forward to. Service over looks but good looking imo. Photo accurate, not even PS.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7035464&highlight=thai#post7035464[/URL] Thai HYA.[/QUOTE]Any of those thai girls in LA not OC / SD? OC and SD are GUD = geographically undesirable.
[QUOTE=JackHolly;7164980]For rates, yes, it's the owners and the girls, but the bookers definitely add to drama, which then has a ripple effect on what girls want to stay, who they want to work for, etc. Which then affects which girls / bookers the bosses want, etc.[/QUOTE]So from the 60 per appt. Just how big a raise do you think it was? How much do you think it affected the going rate compared to this boss / owner trying to raise rates by 150-200+ per girl? The bookers aren't getting any of that.
[QUOTE=BobLove;7165613]New HYA. Measurements accurate and looks like the photos except whiter skin. Boobs likely MM, but feel real. Some random tattoos on her abdomen, foot, and backside. Very young and maybe a little new to this career which has its pros and cons.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT. Have you seen the other premium rate girls? How would you say she compares? Would you say the rate is justified?