Happened across Delores the other night. On the north end. More hands than mouth. If you get my drift. My but it's been slow over the holiday.
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Happened across Delores the other night. On the north end. More hands than mouth. If you get my drift. My but it's been slow over the holiday.
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I worked for a very upscale agency as a driver in the early 90's, so I'm pretty familiar with some of the scams. Of course, alot of this is probably old hat to most of you "experts" but I'd thought I'd share a little.
MASSAGE PARLORS AND STRIP CLUBS
you will get the dancer or massage girls who work you over for the donation, then lead on that MORE is available if you pay more, but they won't give up shit to you! I'm ashamed to say, even I got nabbed in one of these. I'd just gotten out of the service, and was drunked up one night, and some friends had introduced me to another stimulant chemical. BAD COMBINATION! (by the way, it's been decades since I was that stupid). We flew to Vegas for a weekend, a bunch of young guys with high dollar jobs, and low morals. In the strip club, this girl told me that for $200 I could get "alot more". I said, "you mean a blow job" and she insinuated yes. The girl was a supermodel! She moved me to a different table and did NOTHING. When I tried for more, she said again, "that is going to take another $200 baby" I figured I was already in this much, might as well, but AGAIN, I didn't get shit. She said that was $1500 lol, so I called her bluff. I pulled out $2000 and said "if you scam me again, I'll fucking kill you, are you SURE you want this money?" She said yes, and took it, and again, NOTHING happened, and she was giving security signals to come over. I was a bad ass Marine at the time... they had one hell of a fight on their hands! Ironically, I never got my money back, but I did get 2 giant chunks of her hair, roots, and some bloody skin and all. A bouncer got a broken beer bottle in his eye, and is mildly retarded now. The only reason I can share what happened, is that the statute of limitations both criminal and civil have expired. I hired a lawer to make sure! lol What happened made national news. I had to buy a used car to drive home so I didn't show up on any radar! lol
The bottom line, strip clubs and massage parlors CAN'T offer full service! They are watched so intensely by LEO. It's OK to not offer full service, but to pull that type of scam is not. Don't get sucked in.
ESCORT PHONES IN YOUR PERSONAL ID INFO
If a provider does this when she meets you, she is probably going to scam you. It's an insurance policy that you won't harm her once she rips you off! She intends to put you on the upsell elevator, but all your really going to get is to watch her dance while u jack off. Even if you do get full service, you will drop alot of money to get there.
CASH AND DASH
Their are so many ways to fall victim to this. The best way to avoid it is to see them at their incall. They can run out of your hotel room or home alot easier than their own. But if they have a fixed incall, with a sign and phone directory, they are going to be under LEO scrutiny, and are much more likely to be a massage parlor or Las Vegas style stripper scam. So favor girls who check into a hotel to work.
MOST STRIPPERS WILL ESCORT
This is true. But when your at the club, if your dropping big money on them, you actually remove their motivation to do so. It's OK to tip them $1 bills throughout the night as they dance. Blow $40 on two lap dances, "buy them a drink" for $50, but let them know, your generosity is very limited in such a public forum. But in private, you'd be alot more comfortable. On the 2nd visit, hold back more, don't tip when they are on stage, get 1 lap dance, and let them know how much more generous you wish you could be, if she would only "date" you on the side. If she doesn't bite, on the 3rd trip, don't tip her anything, but let her know if she calls you when she gets off work, you could work something out, then give her your cell #. That's how most girls end up as escorts. They see the potential for escorting, and after the hard living starts wearing them down, and making a 2pm start time gets tough, or staying straight enought to make the late shift at 8pm just isn't possible, they switch solely to escorting.
NICKLE DIMING AND SOB STORIES
It's possible to make friends with these girls, but then you are going to start getting the sob stories. I need 1st and security for a place, my car needs..... , they are gonna turn my cell off unless I pay $$$. They will start to work you for money not connected to sex. NEVER let them get a dime out of you that they don't earn!
NEVER FRONT A GIRL MONEY FOR FUTURE SERVICES
This just happened to a friend of mine who is a car salesman. A dancer/escort needed $1400 to put down on a car, and she offered him 10 "sessions" if he front her the money personally. The girl was a 19 year old supermodel! He did get that 1st session, but guess what. When he calls her, she won't answer her phone. He finally got a 2nd session and she was rude, spiteful, and flat out awful to him. Once, he showed up to where she danced, and she pulled the "OMG, a stalker, help me" and the bouncers tossed him out on his ass !
NEVER FORGET WHO THESE GIRLS ARE!
My neice works at a popular dining establishment, and made $1500 Christmass week, and averages $800-$1000 every other week. BUT IT'S HARD FUCKCING WORK! Basically, any girl in this trade lacks any common decency, therefore she would rather make her money on her back, than make the same $$ at the Scotch and Sirloin (altho, those waitresses are pretty touchy feely, bordering on escorts lol) , the Texas Roadhouse, Chili's etc... It isn't a stretch to assume that other decessions they make lack basic decency. SO DON'T EVER TRUST THEM!
"I AM PREGNANT, AND YOUR HAVE TO BE THE DADDY..."
If you are hooking up with a dancer, it's possible for any guy to want so much to be "the only one" she does "that" with, that he might go bareback with her. YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE STUPID! Just so ya know! So don't think your not sliding bareback into a prostitute! If for whatever reason you do end up riding the horse without a saddle, be prepared for the "I'm pregnant" scam. It's a nice way for her to work you for $500-$1000 for an abortion. It's usually done when your interest if fading in her, and she wants to pull some cash out of you before it's gone completely. It happened to me once, but not with a provider. She was just a fun little fling who didn't even grow up in a double wide. She was single wide lineage all the way. She knew it wasn't fun for me anymore, I turned her down a few times when she needed financial help, she knew she was losing me. Here is what I did. I said, "no problem, but I'm going to go with, and hold your hand like a gentleman should" LOL, she called me the next morning at about noon and said she just got back from getting it done, but not to worry, they let her pay only half, and she could pay the other half later. I again, said "no problem" what Clinic, I'll call and pay by credit card. She hung up on me lol.
THEY ALL HAVE SOME WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT AT HOME
ironically, many of these girls support some sorry excuse for a man! He owns her heart, and YOU never will. Maybe her daddy was the same way, and she is afraid to do better, OR, she is escaping a tyranical daddy who wanted her to have a curfew, stay in scool, not drink/drug, date jail birds etc... (sarcasm intended)
YOU DON'T NEED PROFESSIONALS
I'm a guy whose pushing middle aged, divorced but no child support dragging me down, and have a decent job. I continually sport young 20 somethings on my arm, and I'm not much to look at anymore! I'm chubby, and pushin 40 LOL. I figured out how to do so completely by accident. In my day, I worked my ass off to land chicks, and I was HOT as hell back then. But now, I have to push them away. Why? Well, the older and uglier I get, the nicer the person I tend to be. BUT, it's not because I'm nice I get them either. It's because I come accross like a deer in the headlights. Wear my heart on my sleeve, care about people etc... So I am a magnet for women of poor intentions! It has it's advantages, because these woman will be the wildest nastiest ****** for you, when they think they are going to hit the jackpot. I'm ashamed to say I've intentionally gone down this road a few times, and quite enjoy going balls deep in barely legal pussy! FOR FREE, besides a few dinners and nights out on the town.
Hope this helps
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Wondering if there are any recent reports of happy ending situations in the Newton, Hesston, McPherson, Salina area.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]I worked for a very upscale agency as a driver in the early 90's, so I'm pretty familiar with some of the scams. Of course, alot of this is probably old hat to most of you "experts" but I'd thought I'd share a little.[/quote]Crosspost much? You posted this exact article on another site two days ago (JUSLOOKN). As I said over there, a lot of this is old hat, a lot is common sense, but a lot of it is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]you will get the dancer or massage girls who work you over for the donation, then lead on that MORE is available if you pay more, but they won't give up shit to you! [/quote]Old hat.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]The bottom line, strip clubs and massage parlors CAN'T offer full service! They are watched so intensely by LEO. It's OK to not offer full service, but to pull that type of scam is not. Don't get sucked in.[/quote]Bullshit.
I can name 15 strip clubs where full service is available. And probably 50 massage parlors off the top of my head. Even in Las Vegas, you can find some of both. Now, if you go to a known tourist scam spot like "The Can Can Room" you are gonna get taken as a mark. But an "expert" who ISN'T a young, drunk, ex-Marine with too much money to spend can find plenty of places where they won't get scammed.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]If a provider does this when she meets you, she is probably going to scam you.[/quote]Your personal experience does not a "rule of thumb" make.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]MOST STRIPPERS WILL ESCORT[/quote]Some? Yes. Most? No.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]They will start to work you for money not connected to sex. NEVER let them get a dime out of you that they don't earn!
NEVER FRONT A GIRL MONEY FOR FUTURE SERVICES[/quote]Always good advice.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]Basically, any girl in this trade lacks any common decency
THEY ALL HAVE SOME WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT AT HOME[/quote]Generalize much?
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]"I AM PREGNANT, AND YOUR HAVE TO BE THE DADDY..."[/quote]If you go BBFS, you deserve to be worked like this. DNA tests aren't cheap, but they are cheaper than 18 years of child support.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]I continually sport young 20 somethings on my arm, and I'm not much to look at anymore! I'm chubby, and pushin 40 LOL. I figured out how to do so completely by accident... It's because I come accross like a deer in the headlights. Wear my heart on my sleeve, care about people etc... I'm ashamed to say I've intentionally gone down this road a few times, and quite enjoy going balls deep in barely legal pussy! FOR FREE, besides a few dinners and nights out on the town.[/quote]Dude, you should write a book. Get a show on Fox with Mystery and teach guys how to nail supermodels. Seriously. Give us a call and tell us when it is on.
[QUOTE=Newguy44]I see Amy posting alot on Witchita craigslist and she always says to enter the last 4 of her phone # and get pics. I must be stupid because I don't get it.[/QUOTE]In some of her ads she does not put a photo. If you search those #s it will bring up all her ads.
These two thieves will upsell you into poverty. No DATY, no fingers, no kissing. They wanted 100 extra to touch each other! Then they ran off with a couple of items from my bathroom.
My post was aimed at the stupid, not the expert. An expert doesn't need advice. Surely you are the man! A flat out PhD on pimp and ho ism LOL. Maybe they can engrave that on your tombstone or something.
I'm not a monger, only know what I heard girls talking about when they worked for other agencies. You know working girls laugh at you, belittle you the very second your gone from their site. Their are a few girls who put themselves in bad situations, where the monger has the upper hand, and if they do, shame on them, they don't have to.
"These two thieves will upsell you into poverty. No DATY, no fingers, no kissing. They wanted 100 extra to touch each other! Then they ran off with a couple of items from my bathroom."
What the hell can be worth stealing in a guys bathroom? LOL ROFL
I'd almost WANT some stupid ***** to steal my stuff from my bathroom, just so I could laugh at what losers they are! LOL
Was wanting to see Amy, or Desire a while back, but figured they were trouble from there cocky responses, and lack of reviews. Did see Vanity though recently. She's a very down to earth, fun gal. Aims to please, and won't drain the bank account.
Here is a link to a interesting report out of Chicago. I wish our own PD would work a little like this......
[url]http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/odd-numbers/2008/01/07/the-market-for-street-prostitutes-in-chicago[/url]
Jj
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna]My post was aimed at the stupid, not the expert. An expert doesn't need advice. Surely you are the man! [/QUOTE]Gotta agree with KC... lots of generalization and BS in here.
A flat out PhD on pimp and ho ism LOL. Maybe they can engrave that on your tombstone or something.
[QUOTE=Do U Wanna] I'm not a monger, only know what I heard girls talking about when they worked for other agencies. [/QUOTE]Yeah... Bullshit. And you're just hanging out here to "read the articles."
[QUOTE=Icttraveler]Gotta agree with KC... lots of generalization and BS in here.
A flat out PhD on pimp and ho ism LOL. Maybe they can engrave that on your tombstone or something.
Yeah... Bullshit. And you're just hanging out here to "read the articles."[/QUOTE]
No, actually, I'm here for you! So booo! Better watch your back! LOL
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Was in Wichita and decided to take a run down Broadway area. Before hand I stopped at the QT on Douglas. Saw a tan minivan with the driver wearing a uniform type jacket with a badge on the sleeve. It did look like the authentic jelly donut eating type if you know what I mean. Sorry, couldn't quite get the plate due to all the mud/slush sludge, but it wasn't government tags. So I kept an eye out for it on the cruise. I did notice a BSW in a checkered hoodie but it was at the very beginning and I like to look the area over before committing. You know, looking for tan minivan in a nearby parking lot or side street. She eventually made her way all the way down to the Walgreens before turning around. I finally picked her up one block over and a few blocks up. I know vague. Said her name was Stephanie. Her M. O. She said was do go down first and then negotiate to make sure I wasn't a cop. She didn't even wait till I stopped the car. Got me hard then said 30 for blow. I said $20 and she went back to work. Very good, very energetic, but be careful. I felt her digging in my right pants pocket and I'm sure she would have stole everything in it if she could have reached before I stopped her. She finished a wonderful job and I dumped her out on main at some apts just a couple blocks south of where I think kellogg was. Becareful if you pick her up and don't have anything within reach that you might be attached too. Went back to Quick Trip to hit the restroom and there was a silver dodge R/T (intrepid type car) in the parking lot with two jelly donut types wearing jackets w/ badges. Again the vehicle had not identifying markings, so either LEO has taken to carpooling to work or they were working several unmarks tonight. I'll add another post for my experience at the club. Take care and play safe.
I'm not going to mention the club because I don't want to bring extra attention and a tightening of the reigns, because I think that to go menus are coming back in style, but I did want to warn about one dancer. Her name is Nikki and skipping to the meat of it. My hands wandered a little on the first dance and she stated that would cost more dances. Well then, open negotiations right. We negotiated 6 dances to take care of me, during the first dance, but she had to go on stage next and if I pay the dances in advanced she could get off the stage rotation. So I TOFTT and paid 6, figuring atleast I'll get the dances and she wasn't too bad. She got off the rotation and came back for the second dance, at which point she said that since she was paid up that we could leave and get a room. I agreed and she then said to give her a few minutes to get home and get a shower and she would meet me at a specific hotel, and gave me her digits. I called at the designated time and ofcourse the number was "not reachable". And she never showed up at the hotel. Lesson learned, try the number before she leaves. But while I was waiting that shower time, I had another dancer entertain me with some outstanding yet still legal dancing. We discussed her freindship outside of work. It is available (ofcourse I thought the other would be too), but 300 for covered everything and multiples for full hour. Seniors PM me if you would like her name and location (lost her digits because I didn't hit done on my phone before closing it). Given the dance she game and multiples I might just get 300 worth out of an hour. Very pretty face and very nice tits, and when she put her kitty in my face, she really put it in my face. Take care and play safe.
[QUOTE=Hate Veggies]But while I was waiting that shower time, I had another dancer entertain me with some outstanding yet still legal dancing. We discussed her freindship outside of work. It is available (ofcourse I thought the other would be too), but 300 for covered everything and multiples for full hour. Seniors PM me if you would like her name and location (lost her digits because I didn't hit done on my phone before closing it). Given the dance she game and multiples I might just get 300 worth out of an hour. Very pretty face and very nice tits, and when she put her kitty in my face, she really put it in my face. Take care and play safe.[/QUOTE]
Are you kidding? the going rate for FS in Wichita is only 180 to 200.