Stupid shit in St Louis

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]All girls do BBFS. That's only logical. The problem is if they do it with any random fucker that's willing to give them an extra $20. Many of us know who these girls are and we either make sure we suit up when seeing them or head the other direction. Even though all girls will do BBFS, they won't all do it with some random fucker they've never met. There are actually some smart working girls that don't fall for that bull.

I've taught a few girls about the "fear of loss" tactic which you use. All good salespeople use it. The women that do this generally don't care how good you look. Their intent is not to marry you. They simply want your cash. You are a meal ticket to get them what they need. So if a girl is in need whether it's to get her sh-I-at or to take care of some expenses, then if you're the only fucker that she's had all day that called then she's probably going to reconsider and that's the unfortunate thing.

Girls that understand the game, don't let themselves get caught up into the BBFS cycle. Girls that are hooked on something lack that management system and therefore are unable to give the BBFSer the middle finger and send him on his way. They fall for things like: 45, white, married or 65, fixed and widowed. LOL. This is true! I've seen it time after time. And some girls fall for it! Like these guys can't carry the hiv virus.

One thing that girls must understand, is if a guy has the balls to ask for BBFS the first time he has met you, then he's asking a bunch of other broads that might be accepting the deal and it's just nasty. Guys, if a girl let's you BBFS her, you are not special to her! I guarantee she is boning someone else without protection and who's to say who else or what else that other guy is sticking his picker inside.

Again BBFS with your wife, girlfriend, sugarbaby or tightly shared girl is the safest bet. I'm not putting BBFSers down, they just shouldn't be banging girls the rest of the community is banging unless they wrap it up.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your honesty, it really is appreciated. And thanks to everyone else for being civil. BBFSCIP is a huge fetish for me. Nothing better than burying a huge load super deep. But, I will never do it in the hobby. I, unlike you, have a lot to lose.

It's not a good thing when mongers feel that unsafe practices is no big deal!! I do agree that providers are open and reckless with sex acts because financial hardship or the feeling of desperation. But also be aware that drug addiction is very prominent in the business which makes health and diseases are really at the forefront of this behavior. So if you remove the fantasy aspect or the ideal of doing something naughty which excites you. Then this having fun can become a true nightmare!! Reconsider playing roulette with your health!

[QUOTE=BigDaveCotton;2998311]It's not a good thing when mongers feel that unsafe practices is no big deal!! I do agree that providers are open and reckless with sex acts because financial hardship or the feeling of desperation. But also be aware that drug addiction is very prominent in the business which makes health and diseases are really at the forefront of this behavior. So if you remove the fantasy aspect or the ideal of doing something naughty which excites you. Then this having fun can become a true nightmare!! Reconsider playing roulette with your health![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recapacitar;2998067]Marital status nor age justifies BBFS when the community is sharing the same girls. You're only thinking about your own self-gratification and that comes with a price. The price might not be paid by immediate family members because you have no one to worry about, but it will be paid by other mongers that share this philosophy if you happen to get hiv, herpes or some other sh-I-at or some unlucky fucker whose condom breaks while trying to do things the safe way.[/QUOTE][BLUE]I gotta jump in. Either wrapping it up works or it doesn't. If it does then it doesn't matter what they do, if it doesn't then you may as well go bare yourself.

You can't tell them that you wrap it up in order to play safe and that they should do the same, then in the same breath tell them that them that not wrapping it up makes it more likely for you to catch something with your wrapped up dick. Be honest, you think they should wrap it up because that's what you do and you enjoy arguing with people who don't do what you think is right. This has nothing to do with controlling the spread of disease.

I will add, I'm a wrap it up guy, 100% of the time, no exceptions. That's what I do with MY dick. If one of these guys is borrowing my dick to fuck some chick then they need to wrap up my dick while they are borrowing it. If they are using their own dick then how they use their dick is their business and not mine, nor is it yours.

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[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]To your knowledge, why do they deny BBFS with younger guys? I'm just curious.

Any of you guys use this feature when sending a PM? I got what I'd politely call negative feedback for using it. Just wondering as I am not interested in pissing anyone off. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Purler;3007281]Any of you guys use this feature when sending a PM? I got what I'd politely call negative feedback for using it. Just wondering as I am not interested in pissing anyone off. Thanks.[/QUOTE]For me it pisses me off when I see it. I answer my PM's, I answer them pretty quickly as a matter of fact. When I get one of those read receipts I feel like somebodies checking to see if I'm doing my homework.

Might just be me, this isn't the forums position it's me.

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[QUOTE=Admin2;3007374]For me it pisses me off when I see it. I answer my PM's, I answer them pretty quickly as a matter of fact. When I get one of those read receipts I feel like somebodies checking to see if I'm doing my homework.

Might just be me, this isn't the forums position it's me.

A2.[/QUOTE]I try and answer as that is what this site is all about info, and hofo.

Just so everyone is aware, the is an ugly MF, standing at the Washington Park exit off I 64 holding a sign that says TOO UGLY TOO PROSTITUTE, can you spare some change, He was there Friday on my trip over there.

[QUOTE=Wyghost;3007790]Just so everyone is aware, the is an ugly MF, standing at the Washington Park exit off I 64 holding a sign that says TOO UGLY TOO PROSTITUTE, can you spare some change, He was there Friday on my trip over there.[/QUOTE]I drive commercially in that area quite a bit and he's always somewhere in that vicinity and he always has a witty sign that seems to get people to donate to his cause! If he's not right by the exit, he's usually right across the street from the prison.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]They all BBFS.

[QUOTE=BusterHymen;2997540]If you are concerned about being with a girl that does BBFS, then you need to get out of the hobby. Virtually all of the workers in St Louis will readily do BBFS. There are plenty of guys that "test" girls to see if they readily give up BBFS, because they do not want to do a girl that does BBFS. A lot of girls know this, so there are a LOT of girls that will tell you they don't do BBFS when you are negotiating with them. When I ask a girl, and she says she doesn't do it, then I politely tell her I understand, and then offer to drop her off (if a SW) or start to leave (if a BP girl). However, once I start to do this, they change their story most of the time. Or say, OK, but want to charge more. And, a lot of girls don't want to get pregnant, so being fixed has an advantage. And I get tested every 3 months and carry paperwork for the high-end escorts. Also, there are lots of girls that won't do BBFS with young guys, but will with older men. I am nice, clean, polite, fairly good looking for an old dude, and I pay well. If it comes between getting a good payday from me, versus a greasy, young, shady dude that treats her like shit and needles her down for a 20 buck blowjob, what is better for her?

Like I said, all 6 girls I fucked when I was in St Louis went BBFS. Half were resistant at first, but warmed up to it like I said above. I have never pressured anyone to do something against their will. They simply won't get my money, it is their choice.

Just FYI, one pretty young lass in St Louis, once we finished, told me to please come back and see her, because most of the guys in St Louis are dirtbags that treat girls like shit. It isn't your city, it is the same in most cities, that a lot of mongers are cheap-ass dirtbags that treat girls like shit. And then they come on these forums about nice guys like me that come into town and jack prices up. Treat girls nicely and pay them well, and most will accommodate whatever you want.[/QUOTE]I hate to admit it and never have admitted it or talked about it but all of them have and will. From California, Vegas, St. Louis, New York, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if your old or young, good looking or ugly. I've never paid extra for it and I have never asked for it. It generally speaking just happens. Then you both just move on with it.

I'd prefer it not happen, but damn in the heat of the moment, I'm not good at saying," hey let's put a rubber on".

My 2 cents worth.

Also know just because I've done insanely stupid things in the past doesn't make it cool, safe, or smart. There is always that time period afterwArds when I wish I wouldn't have. The time that you keep waiting and watching for something to appear on the head of my dick. Then you go get tested and then you can breath again.

But damn it can be super hot! Knowing it doesn't get much more taboo than doing a young hot working girl uncovered, I still don't recommend it for anyone.

[QUOTE=Waterboy3;3044416]I hate to admit it and never have admitted it or talked about it but all of them have and will. From California, Vegas, St. Louis, New York, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if your old or young, good looking or ugly. I've never paid extra for it and I have never asked for it. It generally speaking just happens. Then you both just move on with it.

I'd prefer it not happen, but damn in the heat of the moment, I'm not good at saying," hey let's put a rubber on".

My 2 cents worth.

Also know just because I've done insanely stupid things in the past doesn't make it cool, safe, or smart. There is always that time period afterwArds when I wish I wouldn't have. The time that you keep waiting and watching for something to appear on the head of my dick. Then you go get tested and then you can breath again.

But damn it can be super hot! Knowing it doesn't get much more taboo than doing a young hot working girl uncovered, I still don't recommend it for anyone.[/QUOTE]Good advice and being truthful. Yes we all have made that mistake, and if alcohol is involved anything is possible.

[QUOTE=WebbHoes;3040205]They all BBFS.[/QUOTE]Especially with the dope man.

Think this counts?