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[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3642608]I didn't get out this weekend, but I'm curious if anyone had any success contacting providers who were using the new BP format.[/QUOTE]I wonder how some of these parlors are able to post normal ads on the Women Seeking section, but the ladies can't.
[QUOTE=HiNMitey;3643707]I wonder how some of these parlors are able to post normal ads on the Women Seeking section, but the ladies can't.[/QUOTE]They can keep posting the proper BP ad if they don't let the post expire. All.
New posts are of the phone number only variety.
[QUOTE=TomMcAn;3642608]I didn't get out this weekend, but I'm curious if anyone had any success contacting providers who were using the new BP format.[/QUOTE][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/484-324-8601/37278227[/URL]
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/559-964-7578/35233718[/URL]
Both providers use the 1st ad pic to feature a good photo of themselves along with text showing their location and other important info. Since the new format makes a text-based location search pretty much useless, having the location on the first pic is a huge positive.
That way as you browse in gallery mode (as BB suggested) you can not only see if the provider's appearance appeals to you but also if they're in a convenient location. And you can see all that even before clicking on the individual ad to open it. And the inclusion of other relevant info, such as review identification number, personal website, rates, and dates of stay, makes these ads even better as examples of a good adaptation to the new format challenges.
Let's hope other providers will take notice and copy the best practices. And even better if clients help spread the word so the ladies understand what works and what doesn't.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3646028][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/484-324-8601/37278227[/URL]
Let's hope other providers will take notice and copy the best practices. And even better if clients help spread the word so the ladies understand what works and what doesn't.[/QUOTE]Putting info in the pictures is good, but now it makes the search useless. Unless they put a name or some identifier in the social media link, it's going to be harder to use the site quickly to see if a frequent visitor is back. We're just stuck using gallery mode for now.
I guess they say beggars can't be choosers; ultimately, BP is what it is.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/571-289-7713/34327143[/URL]
Has anyone see this lady lately? I contacted her and she gave me her rates and I am curious if anyone still sees her.
Q. v. 150 hhr 200 hr 350 GFE q. V. 200 hhr 350 hr 500.
Googling her phone number shows 5 reviews on TER, 2 from last month. You did google her phone number didn't you?
[QUOTE=TallHazelEyes3;3647314][URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/571-289-7713/34327143[/URL]
Has anyone see this lady lately? I contacted her and she gave me her rates and I am curious if anyone still sees her.
Q. v. 150 hhr 200 hr 350 GFE q. V. 200 hhr 350 hr 500.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HotNuts;3646624]Putting info in the pictures is good, but now it makes the search useless. Unless they put a name or some identifier in the social media link, it's going to be harder to use the site quickly to see if a frequent visitor is back. We're just stuck using gallery mode for now.
I guess they say beggars can't be choosers; ultimately, BP is what it is.[/QUOTE]Of all the ads currently on BP, maybe 25%-30% are old-style with searchable text. The vast majority follow the new format (ad title = phone number only, main ad = pics only, location = Northern Virginia only, and a required social media link which is often bogus).
The search function still works for the old-style ads but those results become fewer and fewer every day. Plus, a good portion of those ads are for Asian crapshoot places who haven't let their ads expire.
With the new format ads, it seems that providers aren't allowed to enter any text except for the specific items listed above. That means trying to search for a particular location (ex. Springfield) or attribute (ex. GFE or BBW or blonde) is pretty much an exercise in frustration.
So, unless things change, the best adaptation is for providers to put important info (especially location, IMHO) in the very first pic shown in their ad, because that's what clients will see in gallery view. And the best a hobbyist can do is use gallery view and try to spread the word to providers about best practices. And of course all of this makes sharing intel in this forum even more important.
And you're right about being able to use text search for the social media link, but it gets a little tricky. As a test I selected a random ad and then tried to find it with the search function.
[URL]http://washingtondc.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/772-444-2564/40629762[/URL]
Using this ad as a test, search couldn't find it with any part of the phone number but did find it when I used the entire number in the exact format shown in the subject line (area code in parens and followed by a space). Similarly, the ad couldn't be found searching for "paige" or "dwyer" but only turned up when I searched for the entire string (paigedwyer15).
I'm sure most would agree that this supremely sucks but, as you posted, BP is what it is.
[QUOTE=HotNuts;3646624]Putting info in the pictures is good, but now it makes the search useless. Unless they put a name or some identifier in the social media link, it's going to be harder to use the site quickly to see if a frequent visitor is back. We're just stuck using gallery mode for now.
I guess they say beggars can't be choosers; ultimately, BP is what it is.[/QUOTE]I've also seen an ad where the provider place her location in the social media tab on the bottom. That's a better use for it than sticking in a worthless fake link. My bad, I see someone already mentioned it.
[QUOTE=BrockSampson;3648220]I've also seen an ad where the provider place her location in the social media tab on the bottom. That's a better use for it than sticking in a worthless fake link. My bad, I see someone already mentioned it.[/QUOTE]Good catch. I just did a quick search using "Springfield" and "Woodbridge" and got a few hits on new format ads. So, if providers use their location as part of their social media link entry, that will also be helpful. Not many are doing that now but let's hope the word spreads.
[QUOTE=JmSuttr;3648237]Good catch. I just did a quick search using "Springfield" and "Woodbridge" and got a few hits on new format ads. So, if providers use their location as part of their social media link entry, that will also be helpful. Not many are doing that now but let's hope the word spreads.[/QUOTE]Changes in backpage, Cl, UG, TER and other forums occur all the time, reading all of the "oh woe is me, what do I do now" posts is like reading neubie musings. Figure it out boys, trial and error. It is actually quite fun and you will uncover more useful info than if you just believe what is handed to you.
And if you get stuck, send me a private message for tips.
[QUOTE=Mike85;3648278]Changes in backpage, Cl, UG, TER and other forums occur all the time, reading all of the "oh woe is me, what do I do now" posts is like reading neubie musings. Figure it out boys, trial and error. It is actually quite fun and you will uncover more useful info than if you just believe what is handed to you.
And if you get stuck, send me a private message for tips.[/QUOTE]IMHO, the 2nd option is the better one. Isn't that one of the strengths of the forum, after all?
There has been a lot of discussion about the new BP format. The providers are getting better at posting information in pics, however, there are issues.
Has anyone noticed that there seems to be a lot more providers? What is up with that?
Most of the newbies are hard to research. In the past a phone number search would turn up an add on another site. A picture search would turn up an add or that the pic was fake. Fewer phone numbers now find another site. The pics seem to be more unique to the add or doctored enough that they do not return on a search. I find this eliminates many of the newbies for me. I will not visit someone on a BP add alone.
Persistances does help. I found a good add history on Raunchy Rochelle by searching her name even though her pics and phone number drew a blank. I tried to book, she called me back after I had found another good find. Also, if you have a provider you like but don't see her, try searching for the exact phone number (not partial). You may have to play around with the format (.
[QUOTE=OldBoomer;3648818]There has been a lot of discussion about the new BP format. The providers are getting better at posting information in pics, however, there are issues.
Has anyone noticed that there seems to be a lot more providers? What is up with that?
Most of the newbies are hard to research. In the past a phone number search would turn up an add on another site. A picture search would turn up an add or that the pic was fake. Fewer phone numbers now find another site. The pics seem to be more unique to the add or doctored enough that they do not return on a search. I find this eliminates many of the newbies for me. I will not visit someone on a BP add alone.
Persistances does help. I found a good add history on Raunchy Rochelle by searching her name even though her pics and phone number drew a blank. I tried to book, she called me back after I had found another good find. Also, if you have a provider you like but don't see her, try searching for the exact phone number (not partial). You may have to play around with the format (.[/QUOTE]The Washington, DC metro area is one that tends to clear out on major holidays like Thanksgiving and Christmas. Many of us who live here, including yours truly, came from other parts of the country. That may be why more providers are advertising than during Thanksgiving week. They understandably weren't here over Thanksgiving weekend since demand was lower and it's likely many of them will be gone by Christmas.
Red is an almost under-the-radar gem. She only posts when she's in town, and seems to change her number every few months, so remember what you've read here and you'll spot her ad the next time she posts.
Also wondering if anyone has tried the brunette she travels with.
Seniors and contributing non-seniors can backchannel for more info.
They're putting the city name in the social media link. Here's an example, from Lili Malone.
Httpswwwinstagramcom / Centreville. Chantilly. Fairfax. Dulles. Nova. Manassas.
I made the address readable rather than linkable.
On my tour of fake NOVA Asian ads on BP I've recently tried this one.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/dont-miss-out-if-you-like-young-asian-917-660-6355/26974625[/URL]
When I called this one a woman actually answered and offered me Chantilly or Springfield locations. I picked Springfield and was given the address to a local hotel. Per instructions called back when I arrived and was given the room #, as expected a 30 something MILF answered and she had the same red nighty the previous 2 I've tried was wearing (amused me). 120 hh 160 h, Once again nice rack standing up. Gave a quick back massage, CBJ then mish. Pretty much the same routine as previous reports. They all rush you with about 5 minutes to spare, but all have had a great grip and nice attitude. I'm still trying to crossover to the TER providers. Can't get a callback, oh well I'll try another BP agency, maybe I'll get a young one soon, so far I'm 0-3.
[QUOTE=Onexxxva;3653287]On my tour of fake NOVA Asian ads on BP I've recently tried this one.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/dont-miss-out-if-you-like-young-asian-917-660-6355/26974625[/URL]
When I called this one a woman actually answered and offered me Chantilly or Springfield locations. I picked Springfield and was given the address to a local hotel. Per instructions called back when I arrived and was given the room #, as expected a 30 something MILF answered and she had the same red nighty the previous 2 I've tried was wearing (amused me). 120 hh 160 h, Once again nice rack standing up. Gave a quick back massage, CBJ then mish. Pretty much the same routine as previous reports. They all rush you with about 5 minutes to spare, but all have had a great grip and nice attitude. I'm still trying to crossover to the TER providers. Can't get a callback, oh well I'll try another BP agency, maybe I'll get a young one soon, so far I'm 0-3.[/QUOTE]Good luck finding one. Practicing truth in advertising is not a strength of the Asian crapshoot ads.
Question for the group: Which Asian do you prefer? Which has the best talents? Which puts more effort into their work?
I used to prefer Chinese but lately found some Japanese are more talented and better at the work.
What do you think?
WATTA WORLD!
Since Sharron and Jazmine have relocated closer to me I finally caught up with Jazmine. Two texts and I was walking into a familiar Herndon location I had visited someone else at before. Jazmine greeted me with a hug and kiss and I knew it was well worth the trip. All I can say is she knows how to do everything very well, and in the style us older mongers can only appreciate and relate to. I felt like I went through a time capsule back to the haydays of the late 90's early 2000's before black Friday struck. This girl has been trained by someone who know's the business and knows how to keep clients coming back, right down to taking my shoes and socks off all the way through putting them back on. She is the best provider I have found in at least 15 years. Seniors can PM or others can find my review on that other site tomorrow. No need to ask questions, just go see her. Merry Christmas to me.
[QUOTE=Watta;3655615]Question for the group: Which Asian do you prefer? Which has the best talents? Which puts more effort into their work?
I used to prefer Chinese but lately found some Japanese are more talented and better at the work.
What do you think?
WATTA WORLD![/QUOTE]It is rare to find a true Japanese woman. There are some Korean / Japanese who try to pass for full blooded Japanese. In my youth, while in the Navy, I was smitten by Filipinas overseas. It is rare to find a full blooded one here. Most that advertise as Filipina are mixed.
I'm pretty casual these days in my mongering due to life circumstances, so the BP change is a serious blow to me with no search and only a handful of girls using their pics or social media links for location. Anyone found any good tricks so far or other sites that work out instead of BP? Happy to report back if I find something, as usual.
[QUOTE=Mustang946;3656037]It is rare to find a true Japanese woman. There are some Korean / Japanese who try to pass for full blooded Japanese. In my youth, while in the Navy, I was smitten by Filipinas overseas. It is rare to find a full blooded one here. Most that advertise as Filipina are mixed.[/QUOTE]Love me a Filipina. Any old timers here remember a dancer named Beverly at the Camelot in DC circa late 1980's 1990"s? All my mongering over the years is totally her fault! The search for a new her still continues.
[QUOTE=TripleE;3656198]I'm pretty casual these days in my mongering due to life circumstances, so the BP change is a serious blow to me with no search and only a handful of girls using their pics or social media links for location. Anyone found any good tricks so far or other sites that work out instead of BP? Happy to report back if I find something, as usual.[/QUOTE]I've been having the best luck with using social media. Got a burner smart phone and set up snap chat instagram KIK FB accounts and has blossomed from there. Never thought it would become this easy by friending one girl and watching it explode from there. Technology is a wonderful thing.
[QUOTE=VaPlay;3656698]I've been having the best luck with using social media. Got a burner smart phone and set up snap chat instagram KIK FB accounts and has blossomed from there. Never thought it would become this easy by friending one girl and watching it explode from there. Technology is a wonderful thing.[/QUOTE]Yeah I used to have good luck with that a couple years ago, especially with Tagged and a couple other sites. Now it's a lot harder because I really just don't have time to keep that up. Work is usually riding my ass and due to having a young kid at home, I don't have a lot of time to ride my wife's ass (and there's other issues) so I am better off with something that lets me check the area I'm in and make a call during the middle of the day or after I've been out with people for a bit.
[QUOTE=Watta;3655615]Question for the group: Which Asian do you prefer? Which has the best talents? Which puts more effort into their work?
I used to prefer Chinese but lately found some Japanese are more talented and better at the work.
What do you think?
WATTA WORLD![/QUOTE]I've only experienced massage with one lady who claimed she was born in Tokyo. She was very good with massage but a weird personality, so I didn't click with her. I've had the most extra fun with some of the Thai ladies of the last few years. As far as parlors, I've had great and poor massages from both Korean and Chinese. I've come in recent years to visit the Chinese more often as overall I find better massages and friendlier personalities as well as less demanding on tips. Since the house is often $60 or $70, also easier on the budget than Korean places which are almost always $80. But you can find gems and major disappointments from any of them.
[QUOTE=VaPlay;3655946]Since Sharron and Jazmine have relocated closer to me I finally caught up with Jazmine. Two texts and I was walking into a familiar Herndon location I had visited someone else at before. Jazmine greeted me with a hug and kiss and I knew it was well worth the trip. All I can say is she knows how to do everything very well, and in the style us older mongers can only appreciate and relate to. I felt like I went through a time capsule back to the haydays of the late 90's early 2000's before black Friday struck. This girl has been trained by someone who know's the business and knows how to keep clients coming back, right down to taking my shoes and socks off all the way through putting them back on. She is the best provider I have found in at least 15 years. Seniors can PM or others can find my review on that other site tomorrow. No need to ask questions, just go see her. Merry Christmas to me.[/QUOTE]Exactly, my experience the one time I saw her at the previous location. Hoping to see her again, though not convenient for me.
Saw Mille today in Alexandria. Be careful because she will ask you to put the money on the table and once the condom is on she will up sell you. She tries to say since your dick is so big and she is small you have to pay more. I said forget that and said I will walk before I pay more. That got her attention in a hurry so we agreed on the quoted price, but she got a whole lot of unexpected pleasure as did I.
[QUOTE=TallHazelEyes3;3657288]Saw Mille today in Alexandria. Be careful because she will ask you to put the money on the table and once the condom is on she will up sell you. She tries to say since your dick is so big and she is small you have to pay more. I said forget that and said I will walk before I pay more. That got her attention in a hurry so we agreed on the quoted price, but she got a whole lot of unexpected pleasure as did I.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT but, unfortunately, with the new BP format there's no way to search by name unless the provider includes it in the text of the social media link at the bottom of the ad. I got no search results for Mille (or Millie).
I'm guessing her name is in one of her ad pics but, since those aren't searchable, the only way to know for sure who you're talking about is with either the ad link or the (entire) phone number she's using.
Also, what was the total damage (qv / hh / hr?) and how much extra did she try to get out of you?
She quoted $ for qv but then she asked for +. 50 for q. V. Or +$ for HHR.
[QUOTE=TallHazelEyes3;3657819]She quoted $ for qv but then she asked for +. 50 for q. V. Or +$ for HHR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT, standing firm on the price and sharing your report.
Another good way of avoiding the upsell is to bring only the advertised fee with you and no more.
[QUOTE=Watta;3655615]Question for the group: Which Asian do you prefer? Which has the best talents? Which puts more effort into their work?
I used to prefer Chinese but lately found some Japanese are more talented and better at the work.
What do you think?
WATTA WORLD![/QUOTE]The Thai are number 1.
[QUOTE=PomLovesThais;3658076]The Thai are number 1.[/QUOTE]They're definitely the queens in NOVA.
Has anyone visited Ginger in Centreville yet?
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/amazing-body-rub-by-hot-thai-lady-ginger/28455928[/URL]
[QUOTE=LetsGiveItATry;3659979]Has anyone visited Ginger in Centreville yet?
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/amazing-body-rub-by-hot-thai-lady-ginger/28455928[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes she is legit and you will be blown away.
[QUOTE=PomLovesThais;3661135]Yes she is legit and you will be blown away.[/QUOTE]Legit as in no extras, legitimate massage? Or her "service" is legit?
If the latter, what extras does she provide?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=PomLovesThais;3661135]Yes she is legit and you will be blown away.[/QUOTE]Thank you the info and I must admit you were right. She is beautiful and may be my new ATF. PM for more details if desired.
[QUOTE=PorcupinePasta;3661660]Legit as in no extras, legitimate massage? Or her "service" is legit?
If the latter, what extras does she provide?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Made a visit yesterday. Happened to see a monger leaving at 1:55, my appointment was for 2:00.
Nice apartment in Centreville. Very clean. She does have someone with her. Not sure if male or female, but she said that it was the person who sets up the appointments while she is working.
The massage itself was ok if you want a light touch. If you want something more firm, then you are out of luck. For that reason, I would suggest the 45 minute option. Post massage, she asks what you want. Standard NoVa is included in the price, BBJ is 60. She quotes FS for 120 - I only had an extra 80 and she gave me FS for that "because I am a new customer". I am sure FS for 100 is pretty standard for her. (FS was covered).
She is up from LA and not sure how long she will be in town. Very nice to talk to, and seems interested in cultivating repeat customers.
YMMV, but I left satisfied. I much preferred her to the Clifton farmhouse.
Met up with Violet, who is visiting the area briefly. She is the average next door neighbor, in the line at the grocery store, or at pickup line at school. The pictures are of her a couple years back, but she is the real deal. A couple texts and call got me to her location. Violet is very laid back, likes to talk, and makes you feel welcome and at ease. I enjoyed the conversation, which led quite naturally to our getting comfortable under the sheets. Good connection, straightforward covered session; she is compact, tight, feels good under you. Violet is not the typical 25 yr old BP hardbody transient. She is, however, a well seasoned, total package girl with whom you can enjoy some brief companionship and fun.
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/702-888-5220/42986887[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pbarber307;3636921]Add that to all the fake ads, outdated low resolution, grainy pictures (like a photocopy of a photocopy), crappy selfies, twerking clips, dog ears, dog snouts, animal faces, flowery tiaras, etc. Is this the best these girls can do to market themselves?[/QUOTE]Kitty ears, the tongue that zips in an out, lip synching, pictures of painted toenails, the "Keep Calm" crown. Bah humbug, LOL!
[QUOTE=BayouJ;3663247]Made a visit yesterday. Happened to see a monger leaving at 1:55, my appointment was for 2:00.
Nice apartment in Centreville. Very clean. She does have someone with her. Not sure if male or female, but she said that it was the person who sets up the appointments while she is working.
The massage itself was ok if you want a light touch. If you want something more firm, then you are out of luck. For that reason, I would suggest the 45 minute option. Post massage, she asks what you want. Standard NoVa is included in the price, BBJ is 60. She quotes FS for 120 - I only had an extra 80 and she gave me FS for that "because I am a new customer". I am sure FS for 100 is pretty standard for her. (FS was covered).
She is up from LA and not sure how long she will be in town. Very nice to talk to, and seems interested in cultivating repeat customers.
YMMV, but I left satisfied. I much preferred her to the Clifton farmhouse.[/QUOTE]I met her yesterday. Very nice location. She's vey nice looking and was fun. Seems new at the game and a little disorganized. The massage was ok with some b2 b rubbing. I went with 45 minutes for $ with. 6 for BBBJCIM. She seemed surprised whEn I came in her mouth but didn't stop right away. She said next time $$$ for BBBJ, daty and cfs with massage. I think I'll stick with an agency girl for that much. She was pretty and fun though.