[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159411]Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Thanks as always for the rebrand info from up north.
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[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159411]Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Thanks as always for the rebrand info from up north.
I usually put foot in mouth sometimes but I am going to say it. I will bring it if a girl is a legit 9 or 10. Also, once a girl had a video option like Barbie, I think that option will still be available YMMV even when it's no longer on the menu.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7159079]Holy Sticker Shock Batman. Take a look at that video option upcharge.
Calling Download, what do you think?
https://get9irl.com/BabyNyan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7158074]Baby Sugar. Skinny emo with lots of tats and non-stop oral diarrhea or Shani, CYA / HYA with a hot gymnast body with nice curves, abundant T&A, no tats. My complaint about Shani is that she still had acne last year when I saw her, and she had a bit of an attitude then, too. To each their own.[/QUOTE]I agree on the acne part. Though she seems to have more some times then other I imagine due to breakouts. So sometimes I feel less attracted since acne really bothers me. Regarding the attitude part, this is why I always put a YMMV disclaimer. I've seen her prob 10 times and have never had attitude once. Sessions get a little spicy and she usually let's me stay longer. IMO a great one to see. Do you have examples of the attitude? Maybe she was just being playful but there was a misunderstanding.
[QUOTE=Dewpsp;7159861]Is everything on the menu at oppai pubs and soapland for non Japanese speaking tourists? Or is it just basically a topless bar with kissing and touching?[/QUOTE]I always get exactly what locals get, it's only a question of getting in. It's a nuanced discussion of the best approach but you need to see ISG.
An oppai pub is supposed to be just a topless bar with kissing, touching, flirting. If you want sex, go soapland or Delivery Health. You wouldn't go to a maid cafe and star kissing the girls either, go to the right shop. Look at the guides for soapland on ISG. Or see the J-girl thread where it's more relevant with better links.
Saw Daisy recently. Big splurge but that view when hitting it from behind was worth it. Service is ok but she is definitely HYA.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7159406]I've heard other guys say that about Shani, too, but I haven't seen that side of her. What does she do?[/QUOTE]Perhaps it was a bad day for her, or we no longer had chemistry. I first saw her when she first started in LA and liked her tight, shapely, little gymnast body and cute face. She had that fresh eagerness that some newbies have. She seemed a bit jaded now, but that can happen. So, I won't say she is a bad call for everyone.
[QUOTE=Ky1234;7159985]Saw Daisy recently. Big splurge but that view when hitting it from behind was worth it. Service is ok but she is definitely HYA.[/QUOTE]
Definitely the view from behind is good, [B]Daisy[/B] even made sure we had good positioning in front of mirror, very active and good feedback. The way I describe her service is she is still learning but makes fantastic effort. HYA. I created a photo guide for my review in link. I want to emphasize that Daisy is the only premium rate girl I think is clearly justified. 80% of premium rate girls are not worth their higher rate even though they are worth seeing. This is a warning to people who aren't made of money. To put it exactly, there are [I]cheaper girls who are better than the premium rate girls[/I].
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER (photo guide)
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7152073&viewfull=1#post7152073[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER
Are there any 280 hh / 320 hr bb special girls in LA? There are in OC and SD. I must be taking crazy pills because some of these cheaper girls are better than girls charging 400 to 450 for bb. That's [B]40% more money[/B]. Yesterday they added a 600 hr girl, I guess bookers are calling her HYA Gyrui now instead of Baby Gyuri since there is already one. I normally pay 300 and 320 for HYA. The only reason I saw Daisy is several friends confirmed her for me. Use intel guys. I'm not going to toftt premium girls because as I said, most of them aren't even above average. One was a MILF, one was below average, and another was a heavily tattooed thick girl. I'm describing them as nicely as I can. Friends know exactly who I mean. Daisy deserves her rate, all the other girls don't.
I say this now because there are sudden price increases everywhere the last few days. 10-30 in many cases, with a few very expensive new girls. I'm surprised by LA prices now, as well as price increases by half the agencies in OC. So I will highlight the other half when possible. SD has not budged, there is too much competition. To clearly illustrate the gap in pricing, see the latest OC budget roster. I'm posting budget friendly rosters for OC from now on:
[QUOTE=Download X;7159977]Today, I'll attach San Diego [B]Allie[/B]'s better ad photo for the first time. People are driving down from LA to see her anyways (I would not recommend this unless you are in town anyways). Allie's ad photos as 'Mina' are much more accurate than her Get9 ad photos. It's based on her and if you take a notch down it's close. I held off on posting it for months and months because I'd rather guys decide on intel than an ad that's been PS'd up. But photos are all guys talk about it seems so here you go.
[B]Price Increases[/B]
Since I'm reducing my visits anyways, you guys are the ones voting with your wallets. A reminder that for budget friendly HYA with bb, search [B]Jenny[/B] in OC and [B]Allie[/B] in SD. They are [B]280 hh and 320 hr no upcharge bb[/B]. There are many other budget girls worth seeing depending on your specs and taste, but you need to research them.
[B]HYA BB Special[/B]
[B]Jenny[/B] - [B]HYA[/B]. No upcharge bb at 280 hh / 320 hr. Service queen in my opinion. Jenny is safest rec for 'normal' guys with a balance of looks and service. Photo accurate with PS on face, very petite, 20's, baby face, thin waist, nice ass, very round tits, dtf. Limited English, great attitude, other kgirls should copy her attitude. May unexpectedly squeeze 2 shots out of you, what a champ.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Jenny2[/URL] [B]Jenny[/B] Get9
[B]Allie[/B] - [B]HYA[/B], San Diego. No upcharge bb at 280 hh / 320 hr. Maybe 5'4", nice body, nice face, sassy, natural full tits about C cup, dark skin, maybe late 20's, enjoys sex. Dfk, balls licking. Very similar body to Ericka - not skinny or fat, she is completely normal size and proportions with a great body shape. Tits are wonderful to grab especially while standing, I hold on to them as she leads me to shower. Sometimes curses in mix of Korean and Chinese during sex, but almost no English so we use translator. Straight black hair to below the shoulder, soft skin that makes her wonderful to touch and hold.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Allie[/URL] [B]Allie[/B] Get9
I want to highlight SKP girls who are all budget friendly. Many have been reviewed extensively including by me, so I'll let you research them.
OC SKP Girls by price hh / hr (+40 msog) that have reviews
Ada 280 / 320 30s, full body, good attitude, good service, fantastic bbbj
Jiji 280 / 320 30s, B or C cup with great nipples, dark skin, great tits, service over looks
Sophia 280 / 320 40s and milfy, great d cups, service queen (TER 346662)
Vivian 290 / 340 (TER 400759)
SD SKP Girls by price hh / hr (+40 msog) that have reviews
Allie 280 / 320 S-Tier, looks over service
Krissy 280 / 340
Daniel 280 / 340
Amy 290 / 340 Important - not same as Viet Amy, both girls worth seeing but nipples are safe here
I think Ericka / Hazel is simply beautiful. But you'll notice she's almost next to Allie (and half-Thai Emily) and is 450 for bb whereas Allie is 320. That's [B]40% more money[/B].
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SBC Freesia and Daisy are both worth their rate, solid girls. The problem is guys thinking the other girls are like them in any way. Most of their girls are worth seeing at 300-350. Dahlia is mixed, she is good and still learning, good attitude and pussy, but 650 is too much. I think it's fine for her to charge what she wants, guys should just have accurate intel including is she "worth the rate". PLEASER reviews in the E section should now read like - [B]E: 450 hr 600 hh. Worth her rate.[/B] Only solution to overpricing. I don't mind paying more for a girl that deserves it to be clear.
In contrast, recent rebrands are not okay.
[QUOTE=Download X;7158460]There is a recent trend of changing a girl's name and photo and then charging a lot more for her.
They should just raise her rate and let people complain, but not walk in and get disappointed.
[B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
For those who don't know the significance, two examples. Multiple guys were walking in on Stephanie not realizing she was Ppomi, a girl I myself would see but must remind others that she is thick and heavily tattooed. Good to see her once but if a guy doesn't want to repeat her, don't trick them and also raise the price. That is not a fun time. Next example, Barbie changed to Douwoo and raised her rate from 350 to 400. After Boner called her out and I explained why it hurts the booker to do this, she did get changed back to Barbie and her rate dropped to 360. She is worth seeing, but changing her name still means guys who don't repeat end up seeing her by accident.
[QUOTE=Download X;7159602]Dear Boner,
I hope you are doing well. The Winter wasn't as cold as I expected, but I'm sorry to hear about the wildfires and hope you are safe.
I am writing to thank you this time about your earlier warning of Barbie's rebrand. I believe in our last correspondence you wrote and I quote "Douwoo = Barbie / Baby Peach / Baby Green". Your timely caution is greatly appreciated as is your wise counsel as always. I would not want to pay 400 just to unintentionally repeat a girl that I already saw at a much lower rate of 350, no matter how fine her bosoms may be or enraptured our kisses turn. As it turns out, she has since changed her name back to Barbie and dropped her rate to 360. Be it so. All is well, may you be in good health and have a pleasant year deep in good business.
Yours truly,
Boner just saved us 40 dollars and from walking in on another rebrand.[/QUOTE]
It's possible that people in LA simply have different feelings about money. For example, some people cannot be happy unless they fly business and spend more than they need to:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35890-LA-J-Girls&p=7160256&viewfull=1#post7160256[/URL] Only fly business
Do LA people just not care about money?
What did Baby Ravi do with Freesia? So many questions.
I heard Jisoo is going to OC next week and will raise her rate to $600 without BB. So she was 320 for a few days and grew to 350, now will be 600.
Wait what do you mean? Is that freesia?
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7159949]I usually put foot in mouth sometimes but I am going to say it. I will bring it if a girl is a legit 9 or 10. Also, once a girl had a video option like Barbie, I think that option will still be available YMMV even when it's no longer on the menu.[/QUOTE]B Nyan is young close to pic service not great everything else good. Good overall. No point in video with her would recommend.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7160428]What did Baby Ravi do with Freesia? So many questions.[/QUOTE]Baby Ravi did the right thing and resorted to normal pricing LOL.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7160390]
Are there any 280 hh / 320 hr bb special girls in LA?
Do LA people just not care about money?[/QUOTE]For your first question, that boat has sailed a long long time ago. I think 340-50 all in is still reasonable given inflation trends but anything more is nonsense and I'll spend my money elsehwere.
For the latter question, I think it's more about the keeping up the facade of LA glamour and ritz. I'm frugal no matter where I am but I do notice that LA pricing has always been like an island on its own even with the close proximity of OC. Heck, OC pricing for certain girls are overtaking LA's which I thought was impossible but here we are.
In the end, everyone should set up your budget for you and know your hard cutoffs.
Surely Baby Ravi isn't Freesia, right? And she's just using the same fake pic?
The stats do looks pretty similar though.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7160428]What did Baby Ravi do with Freesia? So many questions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7160631]Surely Baby Ravi isn't Freesia, right? And she's just using the same fake pic?
The stats do looks pretty similar though.[/QUOTE]I would be incredibly surprised if that turned out to be the case. It's more likely that they are using the same fake pics, regardless if it was intentional or by mistake.
[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7160631]Surely Baby Ravi isn't Freesia, right? And she's just using the same fake pic?[/QUOTE]Would Freesia drop her price to 350? You may not like hearing it, but Freesia could probably raise her prices. Just her. Since she isn't here, just a friendly reminder that only Daisy is worth 450/600. Other premium girls are overpriced.
I won't list the overpriced girls it's too long. I could not find anyone to say their pricing made sense, even when they liked the girl. Especially on the 370-410 range there were much cheaper and much better girls. I do think if you have a lot of money, go ahead anyways. I just don't want regular guys to get burned and disappointed. Hope that distinction is clear.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7160630]For your first question, that boat has sailed a long long time ago. I think 340-50 all in is still reasonable given inflation trends but anything more is nonsense and I'll spend my money elsehwere.[/QUOTE]Some of those girls are solid. There are also some fantastic HYA at the 300-350 base range right now. In several cases superior to higher priced girls. I hope every guy finds his girl.
BTW memes are just for laughs, please don't take them seriously.
[QUOTE=Resilient John;7160621]Baby Ravi did the right thing and resorted to normal pricing LOL.[/QUOTE]
100%. #1 kgirl of all time for me was 300 last year. Another one was 320. Lizza was 350, she and Daisy are pretty close on my repeat priority. There are zero girls worth over 350 base rate besides Daisy (i.e. Freesia is not working), and I had well over 100 visits this year. It's not a budget issue but simply "Is she worth it" because I can see a better girl for less, more often. Even with Daisy on repeat, I'm going to see Allie 5 times for each time I see Daisy. They're both worth seeing but it's not the same.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7160071]Perhaps it was a bad day for her, or we no longer had chemistry. I first saw her when she first started in LA and liked her tight, shapely, little gymnast body and cute face. She had that fresh eagerness that some newbies have. She seemed a bit jaded now, but that can happen. So, I won't say she is a bad call for everyone.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that definitely happens over time. Shani, like any other girl in this biz, can get a bit jaded. I just checked TER and she has 156 reviews since the summer of 2022. She's been a busy girl.
That said, I kinda like a girl with attitude. As long as she doesn't push it too far and start acting like a moody girlfriend. LOL!
Anybody remember Suvini / Envy? She had a ton of attitude. She used to get mad at guys all the time for the smallest things. It was hilarious! She was insanely hot, so she could get away with it. (Damn, I just looked up Suvini on TER and it's been 10 years she was active. Time flies!
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159577]I don't know about "attitude" per se, but her young age seemed more apparent with how silly she was. Almost to the point of wasting time. Like, jokingly pretending to fall asleep while giving head.[/QUOTE]Oh, if that's what guys mean by "attitude," then, yes, I've seen Shani do that sort of thing. But it does seem more playful than anything else. From my experience, Shani puts a lot of energy into the first 30 minutes of a session, then she tends to get tired in the second half. She will pretend to fall asleep, as you note, or she will look for ways to relax with you, rather than initiating Round 2. (Not always, but sometimes.).
That seems normal to me. That's when I start suggesting additional things for us to do, rather than waiting for her to do it. And she always comes through nicely. Especially now with the BBFS and MSOG upcharges, I think Shani understands that she has to improve her performance if she wants her customers to spend nearly 500 per session. I'm happy to do that, as long as she continues to deliver such an enjoyable experience.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159411]Rebranded Doreen (BayKisses / SweetBobaTime) in the Bay is the latest example of orgs abusing the "Baby" moniker. You've been warned.[/QUOTE]Agree with you that the BABY moniker is overused, but that doesn't mean she's not good. Baby Sugar looks young, I get it. Yami and Ji Young are old as heck but still better service and hotter than Baby Sugar.
I saw Doreen / Aileen and for those that like TOAS or Viki type body with younger prettier face, I would recommend.
She has plenty of reviews in the BAY and most are top notch.
I'm hoping she stays. But if not, will see her in the BAY.
[QUOTE=CreamFire;7157988]I've always been curious about Shani but never bothered to see her when she transitioned to GFE only. Now that more is available, is she the same level as baby sugar based on looks?
Yes, I know. I keep asking for a comparison of B. Sugar but she likes to disappear after a couples weeks then disappears for a couple months. Been searching for an option b for when she disappears again.[/QUOTE]Shani has better tits, body and service. Baby Sugar has an attractive face but her ass is a little bit too flat and she is very skinny. Almost unhealthy looking. Service wise, she's not there. She survives based on her looks and being able to speak good English. Baby Sugar is pretty much a one and done for me. Shani on the other hand gets better with repeat visits. I have seen her 10 x already and will continue to do so whenever she is available. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Ky1234;7159985]Saw Daisy recently. Big splurge but that view when hitting it from behind was worth it. Service is ok but she is definitely HYA.[/QUOTE]Agreed, HYA but terrible service. Wouldn't repeat based on service, not price. Nothing felt good to me.
[QUOTE=Mmmmm00;7161294]Agreed, HYA but terrible service. Wouldn't repeat based on service, not price. Nothing felt good to me.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for speaking up. It goes without saying that HYA have low service for anyone used to MILFs. I warn about this in most HYA reviews, I think I've passed 100 mentions of it at this point, but it's an important warning. For example in my Daisy PLEASER here it is:
[I]Keeping in mind Daisy is a HYA, if you are looking for a service queen you still need a MILF.[/I]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Daisy PLEASER
I'll name the exceptions when I see it with. For example Jenny being solid service and Baby Arin being service over looks, both HYA in my book. Obviously many MILFs being better, some not. Many people have sent me their tiered rankings and among HYA hunters, we tend to agree. Obviously, MILF hunters tend to have the opposite opinions which is natural and perfectly valid. But what MILF hunters think won't help us out, and likewise we even go out of our way to warn MILF hunters not to see our girls. We don't want them to be disappointed.
It's just my opinion, but Daisy is pretty good service "for a HYA". A lot of people have mentioned this. It's also good for you to share your bad experience, girls have to be consistent with every guy and we need as much data as possible. Especially since Daisy is premium priced, it just sucks if you get a bad experience with that combo. I believe you when you said you got bad service, I've been in the same situation where I got bad service from a girl other guys liked. It's going to happen with every girl. To illustrate, I did a meta review on Baby Arin:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32244-Korean-Agency-PSE-BBFS&p=7128229&viewfull=1#post7128229[/URL] Baby Arin is either very good or very bad
10 guys said she was great, 2 guys said she was simply awful. 0 guys said she was just okay! Zero! Let me go even further to illustrate:
[I]Just adding my 2 cents on Baby Arin, as she's been touted on here as being great, but I had an awful time with her recently..Really lame as this board recommended her heavily, but I would certainly not recommend her.[/I]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=6966215&viewfull=1#post6966215[/URL] Awful time with Baby Arin
I totally accept that he had an awful time, but in his words we suck for even recommending Baby Arin. That's how strongly he feels about it! Again, I do believe him when he said he had an awful time. I also believe the other 10 guys, too. That's just how it is and this is my proof of it. I saw her myself and she was wonderful. She last worked LV but is on break.
I guess this proves that we all need to just give our take, the more the merrier. You are not alone. Thank you.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7161399]Thanks for speaking up. It goes without saying that HYA have low service for anyone used to MILFs. I warn about this in most HYA reviews, I think I've passed 100 mentions of it at this point, but it's an important warning. For example in my Daisy PLEASER here it is:
[I]Keeping in mind Daisy is a HYA, if you are looking for a service queen you still need a MILF.[/I]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Daisy PLEASER
I'll name the exceptions when I see it with. For example Jenny being solid service and Baby Arin being service over looks, both HYA in my book. Obviously many MILFs being better, some not. Many people have sent me their tiered rankings and among HYA hunters, we tend to agree. Obviously, MILF hunters tend to have the opposite opinions which is natural and perfectly valid. But what MILF hunters think won't help us out, and likewise we even go out of our way to warn MILF hunters not to see our girls. We don't want them to be disappointed.
It's just my opinion, but Daisy is pretty good service "for a HYA". A lot of people have mentioned this. It's also good for you to share your bad experience, girls have to be consistent with every guy and we need as much data as possible. Especially since Daisy is premium priced, it just sucks if you get a bad experience with that combo. I believe you when you said you got bad service, I've been in the same situation where I got bad service from a girl other guys liked. It's going to happen with every girl. To illustrate, I did a meta review on Baby Arin:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32244-Korean-Agency-PSE-BBFS&p=7128229&viewfull=1#post7128229[/URL] Baby Arin is either very good or very bad
10 guys said she was great, 2 guys said she was simply awful. 0 guys said she was just okay! Zero! Let me go even further to illustrate:
[I]Just adding my 2 cents on Baby Arin, as she's been touted on here as being great, but I had an awful time with her recently..Really lame as this board recommended her heavily, but I would certainly not recommend her.[/I]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=6966215&viewfull=1#post6966215[/URL] Awful time with Baby Arin
I totally accept that he had an awful time, but in his words we suck for even recommending Baby Arin. That's how strongly he feels about it! Again, I do believe him when he said he had an awful time. I also believe the other 10 guys, too. That's just how it is and this is my proof of it. I saw her myself and she was wonderful. She last worked LV but is on break.
I guess this proves that we all need to just give our take, the more the merrier. You are not alone. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I feel I need to elaborate a bit. I wasn't trying to discourage others to go see Daisy. I think she's objectively probably one of the better looking girls out there. And with me was quite friendly and eager to please. Doesn't have GPS.
Sadly she just doesn't have what it takes to please ME. I didn't like her BBBJ and the intercourse was lackluster. Took me a lot of effort and focus to nut. Not why I hobby LOL.
[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;7159577]I don't know about "attitude" per se, but her young age seemed more apparent with how silly she was. Almost to the point of wasting time. Like, jokingly pretending to fall asleep while giving head.[/QUOTE]LOL. She's definitely silly / goofy but pretending to fall asleep is on another level sucks she did that to you. Totally believe she did that tho.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7152394]I decided to see her again, although my first time we did not gel, this time was hot. She looked better than before when I saw her. Last time, when she was tanned, it made her look older. This time, with her natural creamy porcelain white skin, her cute face was on display. She has an hourglass body, MM Ds, a flat stomach, and a nice ass. Which, combined with her pleasing attitude, won me over. For those conversationalists, she speaks English too. She is a HYA repeat for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your post. I went to see Lime last week and she was absolutely fantastic. Super cute face, tight body (can see abs), hot MM's, sexy ass that when she was in doggy gave a fantastic view. Speaks great English, and overall was just a fun person to spend time with. I paid for all the upgrades and it was well worth it. BB, 2 x. Great kisser, paid solid attention to anything I wanted and was so damn hot. She's in that 23-25 age range and she's going to be on my rotation until she leaves town.
[QUOTE=Mmmmm00;7161443]I feel I need to elaborate a bit. I wasn't trying to discourage others to go see Daisy. I think she's objectively probably one of the better looking girls out there. And with me was quite friendly and eager to please. Doesn't have GPS.
Sadly she just doesn't have what it takes to please ME. I didn't like her BBBJ and the intercourse was lackluster. Took me a lot of effort and focus to nut. Not why I hobby LOL.[/QUOTE]I figured it was something like that. For example, in my review I allude to that with "She is still learning but full energy and effort". Her BBBJ is just okay but she made good eye contact and had great attitude. I can't say she did that for others, but that's what I got. So I can see someone else won't be impressed and that's why I explained it that way. When I saw her, she wasn't busy and I was surprised at how much energy she had. No doubt at another random time if I visited, I wouldn't get that. Just how it is, every voice counts.
No one should feel guilty about speaking up. Your comments are especially important since she has so many positive reviews. We don't want guys to think a girl is all good and get disappointed. I can't help but say I had a good time, but I also list things about a girl that I think could be a deal-breaker for others. Things like "still learning" or "some plastic" or "talks more than I expect". I don't mind any of those things, in fact "still learning" is a plus for me but I'm in the extreme minority on that. Hope that makes sense.
[B]Price increases[/B]
On another topic, for various reasons including the wildfires King Theoden is sending some of his HYAs south to OC for refuge. Don't worry, we'll take good care of them. There are still HYA in LA including new ones. If you are a HYA hunter, you may want to see them before they too seek refuge. Who knows, they might raise their prices when they go OC. In Barbie / Baby Peach's case, she got a name change plus price increase of 50 to 400 but our hero Aragorn held them off at the gates. She then changed her name back to Barbie and dropped her rate to 360 - an increase of 10. I believe the conversation at the gates went:
[I]"A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we pay 50 more for a renamed HYA and toftt on 600 girls. But it is not this day. An hour of fun for just an average kkirl over 370. But it is not this day![/I] - Aragorn
More or less. An increase of 10 is fine once a year, Barbie is worth it. A lot of girls have risen their rates 10-30 just a few days ago. Some new girls have very high rates. When Ericka changed her name to Hazel, I had to remove her from rosters a week since I want to stay out of rebrand drama. I just want to describe girls. With half the agencies increasing prices, I won't even describe a girl any more unless she is at least worth her price. Daisy being the only premium girl I know of worth it. Many, many others are not. The list is too long. Since Baby Peach is back to her name, I'd recommend her as another HYA in OC:
[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyPeach[/URl] Baby Peach aka Barbie 360 hr
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34485-Kgirls-Rebrands&p=7145697&viewfull=1#post7145697[/URL] Ericka
[QUOTE=Mmmmm00;7161457]LOL. She's definitely silly / goofy but pretending to fall asleep is on another level sucks she did that to you. Totally believe she did that tho.[/QUOTE]I had a girl legit fall asleep on me once. It was her first day and she arrived the day before from the motherland. Didn't get much sleep and the jet lag really screwed her up. I was spent already so just let her sleep and woke her up when time was up. She was mortified of course but I was OK with it considering her situation. She was extra special on our second visit so I guess it worked out for me in the end.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7161752]
No one should feel guilty about speaking up. Your comments are especially important since she has so many positive reviews. We don't want guys to think a girl is all good and get disappointed. I can't help but say I had a good time, but I also list things about a girl that I think could be a deal-breaker for others. Things like "still learning" or "some plastic" or "talks more than I expect". I don't mind any of those things, in fact "still learning" is a plus for me but I'm in the extreme minority on that. Hope that makes sense.[/QUOTE]You bring up a great point. Everyone should be skeptical when a girl only gets positive intel. I would say the same for the opposite too but the former seems to happen much more often (I. E. Hype). No one single girl is going to be everyone's cup of tea. Although I would be happy to be wrong here.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7161896]You bring up a great point. Everyone should be skeptical when a girl only gets positive intel. I would say the same for the opposite too but the former seems to happen much more often (I. E. Hype). No one single girl is going to be everyone's cup of tea. Although I would be happy to be wrong here.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. I'll cautiously check those girls out if I know the reviewers. Every now and then, I walk in and she's as good as described. What am I supposed to say, all I can do is add my review to the pile. It goes both ways there.
The few times it happened, those girls made my top tier list and stayed there. Just saying. It would be different if random new people talked about a girl. The fact is, I know a few reviewers well enough that on word is enough from them. Three letters from you is all you'd need to say to me.
PS I once asked [I]all of OC[/I] to pick some young girls for me. I said I will toftt and write reviews about them, I don't even care who you pick I will see them. You answered the call. This was your exact answer to me:
[I]Evian, Rose, Baby Sugar, and Milky are pretty good in my book. Among them I'm curious what your take will be on Evian.[/I]
No idea who those girls were, I randomly picked the first one available.
[QUOTE=Madickbiggs;7160502]Wait what do you mean? Is that freesia?[/QUOTE]No, Freesia is not working. One girl stole Freesia's pic in LA. Another girl stole Freesia's pricing in OC. Lots of business is trying to replicate success. At least with Jisoo, they tested her out first and confirmed she was good. Good job, that's how to do it. The problem with 80% of the other premium girls is they took random girls and added 50 to them, many of the girls weren't good enough. This included MILFs, below average girls, and worse. If you have a 380 girl, she needs to be better than the 300 girl, better than the 320 girl, better than the 350 girl. Not worse. No one will believe you next time. So the lesson is, test the girls out a week or two like Jisoo, like Daisy, like Freesia. Then when you confirm they're good, it's fair to charge more because there's intel and people can share some opinions. People knew Daisy and Freesia were good before their price went up. They didn't go in blind.
Do you know why I went and saw Daisy and I knew exactly how she looked and how she was? People who saw "Celine" told me. It wasn't a secret Daisy was Celine, so it worked. If I didn't know, I wouldn't have even bothered I don't toftt premium girls ever.
This is why you don't want to change a girl's name when raising prices. Keep the girl's name! Her biggest fans will still see her obviously. People who whined about Freesia's price increase weren't paying the new price to see her. The many other people who did see Freesia still, they were happy paying customers. A good agency will only care about the second group. Changing a girl's name screws the second group and only targets first group of whiners who definitely 100% do not want to be tricked into paying for the girl they were going to whine about. This is what the Barbie to Douwoo issue is really about.
There are some pricing pains in the weeks ahead. Some girls will survive higher prices, some girls wont. A few guys are going to be disappointed. This can be sorted out quickly if there is intel. It would be sorted out instantly if the best girls stop rebranding. Even looking at it from the greediest perspective on making the most money, the best girls should keep their name.
[QUOTE=DownloadX;7158460]That's the problem of "changing a girl's name and photo and then charging more for her". They should just raise her rate and let people complain, but not walk in and get disappointed.
[B]If you keep a girl's name and raise her rate, only happy people will walk in and see her.[/B] Who cares about the complaints then. It's worse when you hide it. Then the complainers are actual customers who walked in, get surprised, and feel disappointed.[/QUOTE]
Fake pics, but looks 90% like her. Lila looks like a Korean Airlines cabin crew. Tall, toned, graceful, and surprisingly excellent English skills. Don't like this location though, because there is a security guard and no guest parking.
[QUOTE=Brandonbbfs;7161682]Thanks for your post. I went to see Lime last week and she was absolutely fantastic. Super cute face, tight body (can see abs), hot MM's, sexy ass that when she was in doggy gave a fantastic view. Speaks great English, and overall was just a fun person to spend time with. I paid for all the upgrades and it was well worth it. BB, 2 x. Great kisser, paid solid attention to anything I wanted and was so damn hot. She's in that 23-25 age range and she's going to be on my rotation until she leaves town.[/QUOTE]Lime is leaving tomorrow due to "lack of business" in LA. Yet we have hypes here for many days for the $600 hr. Girls? WTF?
Hmmmm this is interesting, so I guess even though she was an SBC girl with the 410 no bb charge she's pretty huh? I read some not so stellar stories about them. Before going to these forums, I used to go in blind with these korgs LOL now I learned a lot from here and saved me a lot of money hahaha. I just tend to repeat my personal favorites but I can TOFTT as long as the girl does not seem like a MILF from the pics. I am considering one of the new girls such as baby Zoe, Sohee, Avery, Amelia, or Gyuri (as long as this is not the baby gyuri as that girl was much cheaper than this 600 price). I used to TOFTT all the time for myself anyway XD.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7162221]Lime is leaving tomorrow due to "lack of business" in LA. Yet we have hypes here for many days for the $600 hr. Girls? WTF?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry Lime is slow. Saw her once and didn't repeat. Not for me.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7162221]Lime is leaving tomorrow due to "lack of business" in LA. Yet we have hypes here for many days for the $600 hr. Girls? WTF?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mmmmm00;7162514]I'm sorry Lime is slow. Saw her once and didn't repeat. Not for me.[/QUOTE]
This is something fundamental to the kgirl business. Kgirls have to tour because a ton of guys are one-and-done by default. This is why Pepsi goes multiple cities rather than sits in one city forever. You know she'd do just that if the business was even close to good enough right. It's a pain to tour, but even Pepsi has to.
Many guys are even at the extreme of "must have new girl" nearly 100% of the time. They'd actually rather have an inferior new girl for the novelty, than to see a girl they liked a second time. I think we've all done that to some degree. When someone repeats an ATF too much, they look elsewhere. It's called having a harem. So no slight to Lime, but this goes to the other fundamental of the longer a girl works a city, the more she relies on mainly regulars. And just to be clear, some friends repeat both Lime and Daisy. But Daisy's last day is tomorrow so what would you do if you were them? Now you get why girls tour.
I remember when Lizza's last weeks approached, her regulars came out frantically asking when her last day was. All except one having never reviewed or even once mentioned her before. I checked. That is the awesome power of "limited time only", even the gatekeepers start posting.
One last factor is the wildfires slow business a little. Not the main factor but it can tip the scales.
I did point out Daisy is an exception, the rest of premium girls are overpriced. And Mmmmm00 did his part in sharing his experience with her. I suppose a HYA hunter can read his post as simply confirming she is hot, if even someone who didn't like her described her that way. While a service hunter will have weak knees and realize it's not for him. Win win.
Daisy is actually being gatekept. She is the 2nd most privately recommend girl by a long shot. The 1st? Nali. I keep explaining I don't go LA much, it would be like recommending Vegas girls to me. But no, people will not stop recommending her to me. Sometimes the same person 2 or 3 times when I tell them about another girl they will say "Oh then you will love Nali" again. I basically have absolutely no idea who Nali is except that I will definitely like her based on my other preferences. I believe them, it's uncanny when you get recs from the four corners. Well, that happened with Daisy too.
You know what else is overpriced? 500 video. Multiple friends have confirmed Nyan is worth seeing (she's normally priced and quite cute) but not worth video. I even used Lime as an example of something better to spend money on:
[I]For Baby Nyan it's 440 + 500 = 940, and that's a lot. You could see Celine K / Daisy twice and still have enough money for lunch and a boba both days..see Allie, Jenny, and [B]Lime[/B]. You know what, I think I will because each of these girls is guaranteed fun in my opinion.[/I]
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7158966&viewfull=1#post7158966[/URL] Celine K / Daisy PLEASER
[URL]https://www.cakdolls.cr/escort/lime-new-in-town/[/URL] Lime 300 / 350
Excerpted from:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=7159097&highlight=lime#post7159097[/URL]
Two kgirls East Coast are testing out kgirl video, I'm surprised but it's a trend. Some other jgirl in the future will try out 500 video again but it'll be hard with 200 and even 100 (like Pepsi) kgirl video. In Elsa's case, she actually preferred not to do video and that's why she charged a high rate. But if someone really wanted, they could pay her a much higher rate to make it worth it for her. I know this was her reasoning for a fact.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7162221]Lime is leaving tomorrow due to "lack of business" in LA. Yet we have hypes here for many days for the $600 hr. Girls? WTF?[/QUOTE]I don't think it's a surprise business is slow right now.
People's homes are literally being burned down. The rest of us are probably going to get lung cancer by going outside.
And even if despite all that's going on you find yourself in the mood, many offices are closed so people find themselves stuck at home. If you have a partner it's probably a lot harder to make up an excuse if I had to guess.
[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7162221]Lime is leaving tomorrow due to "lack of business" in LA. Yet we have hypes here for many days for the $600 hr. Girls? WTF?[/QUOTE]She'd rather leave than offer a more competitive rate? Not even as a trial run?! Got it.
[QUOTE=Madickbiggs;7162488]Hmmmm this is interesting, so I guess even though she was an SBC girl with the 410 no bb charge she's pretty huh? I read some not so stellar stories about them. Before going to these forums, I used to go in blind with these korgs LOL now I learned a lot from here and saved me a lot of money hahaha. I just tend to repeat my personal favorites but I can TOFTT as long as the girl does not seem like a MILF from the pics. I am considering one of the new girls such as baby Zoe, Sohee, Avery, Amelia, or Gyuri (as long as this is not the baby gyuri as that girl was much cheaper than this 600 price). I used to TOFTT all the time for myself anyway XD.[/QUOTE]If you're referring to Lila's mini review, notice that there's no mention of her being pretty anywhere in his review. I could do the same thing, I could write,"She looks someone who goes to the gym. ". In your head, you're thinking a well toned slender hot bodied gal. I'm sure you know that not every that goes to the gym looks like that. That's why instead of metaphors and analogies, I value reviews more when they subjectively state how attractive they find a girl. At least, then, I know where you're tastes lie and if they align with what I look for too. Oh you like that look, not for me. I can keep a mental note of what to filter out.
Just so it's a bit for helpful to others, when I saw Choco / Lila, her English wasn't that good. Maybe she took an accelerated English course since we've met, she did mention she was a student. MM D's that were firm and solid, very slim figure, white porcelain skin, middling service and was releatively unenthusiastic. But, feel free to see her if you want to find out if she's improved. I found her slightly cute but nothing really stood out for me.
[QUOTE=Madickbiggs;7162488]Hmmmm this is interesting, so I guess even though she was an SBC girl with the 410 no bb charge she's pretty huh? I read some not so stellar stories about them. Before going to these forums, I used to go in blind with these korgs LOL now I learned a lot from here and saved me a lot of money hahaha. I just tend to repeat my personal favorites but I can TOFTT as long as the girl does not seem like a MILF from the pics. I am considering one of the new girls such as baby Zoe, Sohee, Avery, Amelia, or Gyuri (as long as this is not the baby gyuri as that girl was much cheaper than this 600 price). I used to TOFTT all the time for myself anyway XD.[/QUOTE]Names get reused a lot, I would say Gyuri is not Baby Gyuri. The latter was not HYA. New Gyuri is possibly J---- but if a girl is premium rate then she can't go on a roster until we confirm she's worth her rate.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;7162829]If you're referring to Lila's mini review, notice that there's no mention of her being pretty anywhere in his review. I could do the same thing, I could write,"She looks someone who goes to the gym. ". In your head, you're thinking a well toned slender hot bodied gal. I'm sure you know that not every that goes to the gym looks like that.
Just so it's a bit for helpful to others, when I saw Choco / Lila, her English wasn't that good. Maybe she took an accelerated English course since we've met, she did mention she was a student. MM D's that were firm and solid, very slim figure, white porcelain skin, middling service and was releatively unenthusiastic. But, feel free to see her if you want to find out if she's improved. I found her slightly cute but nothing really stood out for me.[/QUOTE]About Choco / Lila, I don't pay much attention to ads but it says "model like" and I could not find one person I knew who agreed. Multiple people said her service was low. She had good points but was average, some said below average. Which is perfectly acceptable at 300-350, so guys who "want someone new" can have their fun. This is why girls on limited tours can charge more, but her rate didn't make sense. Whereas some of the better girls charge less because they focus on repeats. This is why if you haven't seen either type of girl, go for the better girl. If you repeat that better girl to much, you compromise a little and try the acceptable girl for variety.
Don't judge by price because there are so few exceptions the correlation is actually backwards. I did the numbers myself on 130 girls. Lower priced girls were a little better on average. It's pretty obvious when you look at the names, they are girls you would see 5 or 10 times if they were your type. Daisy is my type too. But I'll see her less often even though I had a blast.
Normally I don't even mention any of these names normally, but just wanted to add some context.
[QUOTE=UnfortunateP;7162669]I don't think it's a surprise business is slow right now.
People's homes are literally being burned down. The rest of us are probably going to get lung cancer by going outside.
And even if despite all that's going on you find yourself in the mood, many offices are closed so people find themselves stuck at home. If you have a partner it's probably a lot harder to make up an excuse if I had to guess.[/QUOTE]Jisoo is apparently fully booked and Miranee also booked up full last two days.