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[QUOTE=DelToro;7128029]https://members.seeking.com/member/6abccd4b-b10a-4507-b463-c293269d6991


We agreed to meet for a happy hour, nice conversation, I found her very attractive, we agreed to go to a hotel afterwards, we did not talk about arrangement amount.

Once in the room she asked me, if there would be an arrangement, I said yes and told her I just cash-apped it to you.

We fucked like crazy for around 3 hours, it was amazing, she requested a condom which I used for the first shot, but after that she did not seem to mind not using one, she even asked me to fill her up, as we were getting hungry, I asked her to please order food as she was local and knew the places and that I would reimburse her, at that point she realized I sent her $400, and that is when all went south, she almost started crying, got really upset and super offended, she yelled that she has been getting offers for over $1,000.00 and was so disappointed that the one that she decided to actually meet did not respect her and treat her as a cheap w h o r ... I was very apologetic, I even sent her $100 more and that was the end of the night.

We kept communicating and I told her that as much as I liked her my budget was $500 and no more, she agreed to have an arrangement for that amount every time we met.

As I was traveling for work and then the holidays, we would not be able to meet for a couple of weeks. I unfortunately needed to leave town again and needed to reschedule, that unfolded a lot of drama, me treating her like a w h o r *, since as an SB she expected to meet weekly, etc. And that she already had made plans to use the arrangement for a Cyber Monday special, against my best judgement I sent her the arrangement in advance so that she could take advantage of the special. I did not even get a thank you..[/QUOTE]DelToro, there's a few mistakes you made here but nothing more than you already know and I've seen a lot worse (and may have done worse in the past). Lick your wounds and move on. Thanks for the information. She is near me and I kept running across her profile but always figured it would be a headache. I'm glad I passed.

Good review and at least you got 3 hours and a few nuts out of it.

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7127826]What do you think of the possibility that this is related to a scam, and not desperate guys. Right? The classic scam on seeking is dudes who ask for bank info to *give* a girl a lot of dough, but of course they are going to take the money out of their account. Maybe this is a similar thing. They promise $ to meet, but in the course of actually setting it up, the girls somehow get scammed. Your POT, well, it seems she did meet some guys for $, but you can ask why she is on seeking instead of Whatsyourprice, where the paid date is explicitly the deal.

I was on WYP recently, just to check out the talent. Didn't see anyone IK.[/QUOTE]Bro, are you serious? This scam might have worked a decade ago. We're living in a world with Zelle, CashApp, Venmo, and even Paypal. What young SB is going to fall for this. No one's giving their bank account information out to randos.

I've dabbled in whatsyourprice but have only done 200 for a meet and greet. Both times I've wound up fucking the girls for 400-500, but they were so hot I couldn't say no. This sounds like you're making excuses for guys being so desperate that they're paying $500 for a MG with the not attractive girl that was linked.

I'm only paying 500 to fuck young, hot girls and I do things to these girls I ain't doing otherwise with my gf, wife, etc with no questions asked. The moment these guys are paying fat, ugly, or even average looking girls 500 or more PPM they're showing disrespect to the game and how it's played. More importantly, they're disrespecting the men that came before them who built this whole system.

After reading the last post about the rip off I had to post. I was on SA a while ago I never go above 300.00 if they ask I just say I do t pay over that amount. There are a lot of girls who think they are worth 500.00, they are not! I met a smoking hot stewardess for about 6 months we would meet at hotels or tubs. I was paying 250.00. She told me I didn't Always have to pay her but I felt obligated. After we met she deleted her add and told me she was off the site. She finally ghosted me. She was talking about moving back to Atlanta so I hope that was true. I do wonder if someone offered her more and she is still local?

[QUOTE=DelToro;7128029]https://members.seeking.com/member/6abccd4b-b10a-4507-b463-c293269d6991


We agreed to meet for a happy hour, nice conversation, I found her very attractive, we agreed to go to a hotel afterwards, we did not talk about arrangement amount.

Once in the room she asked me, if there would be an arrangement, I said yes and told her I just cash-apped it to you.

We fucked like crazy for around 3 hours, it was amazing, she requested a condom which I used for the first shot, but after that she did not seem to mind not using one, she even asked me to fill her up, as we were getting hungry, I asked her to please order food as she was local and knew the places and that I would reimburse her, at that point she realized I sent her $400, and that is when all went south, she almost started crying, got really upset and super offended, she yelled that she has been getting offers for over $1,000.00 and was so disappointed that the one that she decided to actually meet did not respect her and treat her as a cheap w h o r ... I was very apologetic, I even sent her $100 more and that was the end of the night.

We kept communicating and I told her that as much as I liked her my budget was $500 and no more, she agreed to have an arrangement for that amount every time we met..[/QUOTE]I chatted with her couple of months back and was planning to meet her, but saw here (explore previous post here) that she is asking for $4 k per month for allowance and decided to cancel. Sorry for your experience, at least you got to fuck her bare.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7123338][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5407cc1-8ca2-405f-85db-f6ac1d1d7301[/URL]

Ya kick rocks.[/QUOTE]This one is well known, she is a meet & greet scammer. She creates new profile every now and then, hits up dudes, chats a bit and then says she is ready to meet at Fife for breakfast / lunch. Then in the morning of will ask for meet and greet fee. There are a few posts about her here, and she comes to this board and posts as well.

[QUOTE=Streetmonger27;7128079]Bro, are you serious? This scam might have worked a decade ago. We're living in a world with Zelle, CashApp, Venmo, and even Paypal. What young SB is going to fall for this. No one's giving their bank account information out to randos.
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[/QUOTE]By definition none of these girls have money so there is no point scamming them out of money.

But they are all vulnerable to blackmail and coercion and just in general being fucked with. And there are a lot of guys out there who seriously get off on fucking with girls heads. More than actually fucking them sometimes.

I'm not going to share any sadistic ideas I might have on that topic, largely because I know that some dudes on here would be doing exactly that by next week.

[QUOTE=Streetmonger27;7128079]Bro, are you serious? This scam might have worked a decade ago. We're living in a world with Zelle, CashApp, Venmo, and even Paypal. What young SB is going to fall for this. No one's giving their bank account information out to randos.

I've dabbled in whatsyourprice but have only done 200 for a meet and greet. Both times I've wound up fucking the girls for 400-500, but they were so hot I couldn't say no. This sounds like you're making excuses for guys being so desperate that they're paying $500 for a MG with the not attractive girl that was linked.

I'm only paying 500 to fuck young, hot girls and I do things to these girls I ain't doing otherwise with my gf, wife, etc with no questions asked. The moment these guys are paying fat, ugly, or even average looking girls 500 or more PPM they're showing disrespect to the game and how it's played. More importantly, they're disrespecting the men that came before them who built this whole system.[/QUOTE]Marko Ramius thought the same.

[QUOTE=Streetmonger27;7128079]Bro, are you serious? This scam might have worked a decade ago. We're living in a world with Zelle, CashApp, Venmo, and even Paypal. What young SB is going to fall for this. No one's giving their bank account information out to randos.
[/QUOTE]You see a LOT of profiles on varying apps, Tinder etc, where they mention they won't give out banking information. The inference is that this is a common thing and going by the numbers it probably pays off enough to be profitable for the scumbags. Sure, it's 2024 and most of us are savvy enough to recognize sketchy shit when we see it but I still get spam emails, phishing texts, etc. The scammers only need to succeed a small percentage of the time to make it worthwhile. They are just shotgunning looking for that person in a bad or desperate place, or someone too stupid or naive to figure it out.

I consider myself highly savvy and have been in and around the infosec world for decades but even I've gotten taken once (for a small crypto wallet) just because I had a moment of weakness and allowed myself to get confused. It happens. So that scam you think might only have worked a decade ago still has enough of a success rate that it's being done today.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7128453]
I consider myself highly savvy and have been in and around the infosec world for decades but even I've gotten taken once (for a small crypto wallet) just because I had a moment of weakness and allowed myself to get confused. It happens. So that scam you think might only have worked a decade ago still has enough of a success rate that it's being done today.[/QUOTE]To quote Brian Brushwood, host of World's Greatest Con podcast, " Cons don't fool us because we're stupid, they fool us because we're human. ".

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7128453]You see a LOT of profiles on varying apps, Tinder etc, where they mention they won't give out banking information. The inference is that this is a common thing and going by the numbers it probably pays off enough to be profitable for the scumbags. Sure, it's 2024 and most of us are savvy enough to recognize sketchy shit when we see it but I still get spam emails, phishing texts, etc. The scammers only need to succeed a small percentage of the time to make it worthwhile. They are just shotgunning looking for that person in a bad or desperate place, or someone too stupid or naive to figure it out.

I consider myself highly savvy and have been in and around the infosec world for decades but even I've gotten taken once (for a small crypto wallet) just because I had a moment of weakness and allowed myself to get confused. It happens. So that scam you think might only have worked a decade ago still has enough of a success rate that it's being done today.[/QUOTE]100% - anyone who thinks they are too smart to be scammed online (phishing or financial) is just plain naive. Fact is we are better at protecting our privacy and security than we have ever been. And the scammers (especially Russian, Indian and Chinese) are getting more savvy in the way they attack us to for to voluntarily give up our information. Maybe not directly, but we do. For Gods sake. Jeff Bezos was conned by a phishing incident a few years ago using an Israeli app deployed by the Saudis. The truth is everything about you is there for the taking it is just about how "badly" someone wants to take it from you. These are not conspiracy theories. They are facts.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7128387]
And there are a lot of guys out there who seriously get off on fucking with girls heads. More than actually fucking them sometimes.
[/QUOTE]I think there is a lot of this.

When I asked Rose from my report below, why she ended up meeting me, who did not mention arrangement amount beforehand instead of the guys who explicitly offered over $1000, she said because either they gave her creepy vibes or the meeting plans for one reason or another never materialized. So to some degree they know there is something fishy about those offers, but since they validate their self sense of worth, they chose to ignore the red flag and fly with the idea that those amounts are the ones that they deserve.

[QUOTE=DelToro;7128590]I think there is a lot of this.

When I asked Rose from my report below, why she ended up meeting me, who did not mention arrangement amount beforehand instead of the guys who explicitly offered over $1000, she said because either they gave her creepy vibes or the meeting plans for one reason or another never materialized. So to some degree they know there is something fishy about those offers, but since they validate their self sense of worth, they chose to ignore the red flag and fly with the idea that those amounts are the ones that they deserve.[/QUOTE]Same here. That's how we got to the topic of offers and how was brought up in the first place.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/42e13d9c-b1a5-4b96-a9ea-d611e8424bce[/URL] Stay away from this one, if someone any more info please DM I don't want to disclose more info here in public. She is nutz

I am rolling in hot trying to inquire information about this curvy MILF, Lynn. Has anyone met her? She is also on the cuddle sites and does doubles with a friend. Traveling to Phoenix soon but based in Seattle.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e541d7-ef8e-49d5-92e4-9a8b8c79aaa5[/URL]

P.S. - I know she's not everyone's type LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24f1c52f-c740-43d8-a44d-e8c1cb051cdc[/URL]

Anyone met this one? Talking to her now. She wants 500 ppm. Asked her for how long, she said 1 hour. Told her in a nice way to kick rocks and that I require 3-4 hours of playtime and she agreed. Said all holes open, no race play, water sports from her to him, and some other benign restrictions but all else is fair game.

Nice 32 DDDs so I'm tempted. But I want to know if she is worth it or should I lowball this one. She looks familiar like she might posts on TitsNAss.

So-Crates.

[QUOTE=BigBoobsLover1;7129161]I am rolling in hot trying to inquire information about this curvy MILF, Lynn. Has anyone met her? She is also on the cuddle sites and does doubles with a friend. Traveling to Phoenix soon but based in Seattle.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e541d7-ef8e-49d5-92e4-9a8b8c79aaa5[/URL]

P.S. - I know she's not everyone's type LOL.[/QUOTE]See the cuddlers thread. There was some discussion about them.

[QUOTE=RobertoRoboto1;7129400]See the cuddlers thread. There was some discussion about them.[/QUOTE]Will do brother thank you.

The duo partner is legit. I had fucked her a few times. So at least you know she is not a scammer.

[QUOTE=BigBoobsLover1;7129161]I am rolling in hot trying to inquire information about this curvy MILF, Lynn. Has anyone met her? She is also on the cuddle sites and does doubles with a friend. Traveling to Phoenix soon but based in Seattle.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e541d7-ef8e-49d5-92e4-9a8b8c79aaa5[/URL]

P.S. - I know she's not everyone's type LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DelToro;7129840]The duo partner is legit. I had fucked her a few times. So at least you know she is not a scammer.[/QUOTE]Ahhh have you only seen her? I'm honestly not attracted to the duo partner as much as Lynn (curvy white one).

[QUOTE=BigBoobsLover1;7129983]Ahhh have you only seen her? I'm honestly not attracted to the duo partner as much as Lynn (curvy white one).[/QUOTE]I had a 3 some with the two of them over the summer, and fucked her friend another time since then. It was a solid time! She's a bit too big for me but she has a great face and tits. If she lost weight she'd be hot AF. Unfortunately they won't play with each other but they did suck my dick at the same time then lap up and swallow all my cum together. It was super hot! Probably wouldn't repeat tho unless it was free LOL.

[QUOTE=Swiggityswty;7130262]I had a 3 some with the two of them over the summer, and fucked her friend another time since then. It was a solid time! She's a bit too big for me but she has a great face and tits. If she lost weight she'd be hot AF. Unfortunately they won't play with each other but they did suck my dick at the same time then lap up and swallow all my cum together. It was super hot! Probably wouldn't repeat tho unless it was free LOL.[/QUOTE]Going to PM you bro.

Looks like I got banned on the sitenot able to log in. How do we know the reason or how to get this lifted?

Any have info on this one? She is also on secret benefits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/33e53b61-314b-4641-86dc-32dffbe9bc38[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pawghtr16;7131692]Any have info on this one? She is also on secret benefits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/33e53b61-314b-4641-86dc-32dffbe9bc38[/URL][/QUOTE]Only chatted never met. Had a an attitude and I'm guessing some GPS. Never got a figure though. The line in her profile I know my worth should tell you everything. She is just another delusional mid 30's woman.

Has anyone met up with her? She is quoting me 350 for a PPM, and I am looking for some intel.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cad50498-0e58-4ea2-8f0d-0a38bfd9603f[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeasonedDaddy;7128196]This one is well known, she is a meet & greet scammer. She creates new profile every now and then, hits up dudes, chats a bit and then says she is ready to meet at Fife for breakfast / lunch. Then in the morning of will ask for meet and greet fee. There are a few posts about her here, and she comes to this board and posts as well.[/QUOTE]She even sent me a DM! LOL TOTAL PSYCO. Kind velvet was the last one she used. I told her to piss off. She's got fat thighs too. But thirsty dudes (have destroyed the game totally) will fall over themselves to even smell her funky hole. Haha.

Again, total muy case and should be removed from seeking which, by the way, is nothing more than overpaying for normies off tinder. 85% of the women in there now are average at best. Simping is the real pandemic.

Peace.

[QUOTE=BigBoobsLover1;7129161]I am rolling in hot trying to inquire information about this curvy MILF, Lynn. Has anyone met her? She is also on the cuddle sites and does doubles with a friend. Traveling to Phoenix soon but based in Seattle.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/76e541d7-ef8e-49d5-92e4-9a8b8c79aaa5[/URL]

P.S. - I know she's not everyone's type LOL.[/QUOTE]Les Zeppelin penned a song about that type. Sheesh! I might go for a duo BJ if they booth the drinks! Y'all know I be chirping' you fellas.

Peace.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7129320][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24f1c52f-c740-43d8-a44d-e8c1cb051cdc[/URL]

Anyone met this one? Talking to her now. She wants 500 ppm. Asked her for how long, she said 1 hour. Told her in a nice way to kick rocks and that I require 3-4 hours of playtime and she agreed. Said all holes open, no race play, water sports from her to him, and some other benign restrictions but all else is fair game.

Nice 32 DDDs so I'm tempted. But I want to know if she is worth it or should I lowball this one. She looks familiar like she might posts on TitsNAss..[/QUOTE]Low ball? I'd give a feee base and move on! She's halfway decent (IMO) form the chin up! 500 is a joke though. I didn't even open the message.

Hey guys,

Just be aware that there are a $$holes out there on Seeking that are looking to blackmail you. I'm fortunate enough to not be in a relationship or position which it matters, but it seems like nowadays dudes are using AI to photo trace you and attempt to intimidate you. Carefully gents. This one in particular.

Patty and "his" member I'd is 54 e5 f722-387 c-47 cb-bc83-566441433471.

[QUOTE=GameMaker007;7131539]Looks like I got banned on the sitenot able to log in. How do we know the reason or how to get this lifted?[/QUOTE]From what I've heard you're not going to get it lifted unless you know the specific reason and can prove that whatever the situation was wasn't actually the case.

New email, new account is probably your best option.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7138089]From what I've heard you're not going to get it lifted unless you know the specific reason and can prove that whatever the situation was wasn't actually the case.

New email, new account is probably your best option.[/QUOTE]Email, customer service, they will tell you why.

[QUOTE=TVille021;7137867]Hey guys,

Just be aware that there are a $$holes out there on Seeking that are looking to blackmail you. I'm fortunate enough to not be in a relationship or position which it matters, but it seems like nowadays dudes are using AI to photo trace you and attempt to intimidate you. Carefully gents. This one in particular.

Patty and "his" member I'd is 54 e5 f722-387 c-47 cb-bc83-566441433471.[/QUOTE]Post the link to the actual member.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7138089]From what I've heard you're not going to get it lifted unless you know the specific reason and can prove that whatever the situation was wasn't actually the case.

New email, new account is probably your best option.[/QUOTE]And new Credit Card. I had an account banned once, setup another account with new name and email. When I put in the CC I used before, they banned the new account because the CC number matches the one on the banned account. Had to setup a third account with all new credentials.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7138246]Post the link to the actual member.[/QUOTE]I can't since "she" blocked me. Look dude, just update the URL and replace the GUID. Your call, if you run into "her".

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;7138246]Post the link to the actual member.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/54[/URL]

E5 f722-387 c-47 cb-bc83-566441433471.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7138302]And new Credit Card. I had an account banned once, setup another account with new name and email. When I put in the CC I used before, they banned the new account because the CC number matches the one on the banned account. Had to setup a third account with all new credentials.[/QUOTE]Not sure if it will work with SA but cards like AMEX offer virtual numbers you can use online.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7138968]Not sure if it will work with SA but cards like AMEX offer virtual numbers you can use online.[/QUOTE]Oh, I never thought of that. Got a few virtual numbers from Amex and Chase. Thanks, I'm going to try that when needed next.

[QUOTE=SocratesRvng;7139168]Oh, I never thought of that. Got a few virtual numbers from Amex and Chase. Thanks, I'm going to try that when needed next.[/QUOTE]Looked into it. So for AMEX you have to use Chrome or some android applications. Fairly easy, it seems, just remember the scumbags at Google still suck up all your info even in incognito mode.

[QUOTE=TVille021;7138643][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/54[/URL]

E5 f722-387 c-47 cb-bc83-566441433471.[/QUOTE]Link does not work for me (so guess he / she blocked me or is no longer on SA) - Having said that. Yeah SA is mostly full of scammers now, compared to what it was just 5 years ago.

I am travelling to Seattle and trying out on SA and SB sites. I did sugar dating long ago in Atlanta. After a long gap, I am trying out again now in Seattle. I am getting lot of one liners. When I reply back, no responses later on (especially, this is the most common pattern I observed on SB. On SA, its as been slightly different, not successful there too, conversation did not go to allowances / offer.

In general, is making an offer upfront works on SA or SB sites? Please share your experiences in that context. Should I first offer or wait for them to share their expectations on allowances for meet ups?

Every interaction maybe unique and different. Would be helpful to hear from this forum on what worked in general, that would be much appreciated, thank you.