Supereloquent's Reports - Philadelphia

[QUOTE=StormRanger; 1112289]Damn right you were! And as expected, CookieJar just can't admit it. He lied and is sticking with this "Gentleman's Agreement" excuse when Jackson's words speak for themselves. The admin rules were specific.

I edited out some of what Jackson wrote for brevity, but I see now that shouldn't have done that. Here I will post the full text (from this summer) and you can all judge for yourselves if this was just a "Gentleman's Agreement" with Admin, or if it was a DIRECTIVE to be obeyed. I think it is pretty clear that CookieJar is lying about it, but that is just MHO. I've grown accustomed to this from him, and it only bothers me in the context that he is being hypocritical about it by attacking someone else about supposed lies. Many of the issues here would have been avoided if CookieJar had put SuperE on ignore and vice versa.

Also MHO, if you don't like the majority of someones posts and they piss you off. Put them on 'ignore' or STFU please. I'm going to take my own advice here and STFU about CookieJar now unless I'm specifically asked or challenged about it. Cookie, I love your reports on SW's and your pics. You are awesome, I just think that you are wrong on this issue. Sorry I turned this into a rant.

How is this in any way vague?

These are rules, not an agreement.

Here are the consequences of breaking the rules. For whatever reason, Admin didn't do it. [/QUOTE]And because of him, we have lost a great contributor.

Dark Phoenix,

As I'm sure everyone is aware, there is a composite likeness of a young black / hispanic man who is the primary suspect in the Kensington stranglings. There is also an m. O. The attacker has been using. A walking monger who lures SWs into vacant parking lots for either drugs or sex. To imply in any way that SuperE fits that profile is complete and total bullshit.

What YOU did was inexcusable and the ongoing posts trying to justify it are as well. Unfortunately, you have now taken your attack to an even higher extreme. Not only have you outed a fellow monger publicly, you have now accused him of being the Kensington strangler. So it wasn't enough to put his family life and job at risk, you now are pointing LE in his direction. And just for the record, the last attack was on the 15th. 5 days before your post.

There were things I didn't like about what SuperE posted or how he said it. I can even agree that he deserved to be taken down a peg or 2. The attack that took place was out of all proportion to any misdeeds real or perceived.

I agree with those who call for Jackson to lock this thread to further posts.

Dark Phoenix:

Thanks for coming on to let us know what you were thinking. You didn't have to do that, and it says a lot about your character that you did so. You broke a taboo that's as strong as they come.

I freely admit that I read the Philly threads for a vicarious thrill. I'm sorry if that offends any of the locals. Honestly, I also enjoyed the tension between SE and several other posters. I posted over here once because I didn't understand what the dynamic was that drove most of that tension. I'm still not sure I do. Ego, mostly, I guess. SE's issues. The out-of-towners? Beats me. Maybe we did make a circus out of your lives. Maybe. But maybe Philly put on a show and we all just came to see it.

People may think you fell (or feel) for a girl SE screwed by posting her pic because your original reason given for wiping out SE was, in a nutshell, that he was wrecking the girls lives with his posts. You have clearly moved away from this position as your main objection to SE. An objection so strong that mere aversion was unsatisfactory. You have come up with an interesting defense, to be sure, but. . .

You're saying you outed SE as a public service?

Because, what, someone was going to rush over to the police with this hot lead? Really? How is US knowing who SE is going to stop a serial killer? That doesn't even make sense. You don't out someone if you think they're a sociopath, you call the cops! You didn't have to tell the membership ANYTHING about the guy's real name! Why wasn't it on the news? Why didn't you go to the police and denounce this guy? You're not sure? Well, duh, then why tell us who he is? What, was telling us more of an FYI, Brotherhood of Mongers and all, just to give us the scoop, so to speak?

SE might very well be your Psycho. I don't know, but "nobody's been attacked since the membership discovered SE's name" is pretty lame. Look, if you think SE is a serial killer, you got to take that shit to a higher authority than this board!

As for your attempt to absolve Davey, noble as it is, it falls short. Davey may not have had anything to do with you outing SE, but he definitely re-posted your message expressly for the purpose of making sure SE got outed. CookyJar then confirmed the info so as to be certain to finish him off. I'm afraid, however, you're going to be allowed to fall on your sword.

I said you couldn't possibly believe your own rap, but, hey, maybe you can. Maybe the conflation of a nut-job on the street and a nut-job on the board was too much for you to keep separate. I don't particularly like calling you a liar, but your reasons given fail utterly to explain your actions. Perhaps you are confused? Perhaps, upon further reflection, some new insight will come?

Maybe that's just the way it is in Philly. It's not like us out-of-towners should be telling you your business. But still, you hate to see things go down like this. Mostly, 'cause, at the end of the day, you hate to think that someone in your circle would detest you so much that they would try to publicly disgrace you. That's the kind of shit that could happen to anyone, you know? It's the only reason your motives matter Dark Phoenix. If all it adds up to is "I fucking hate this fucking fucker, and now I'm going to fuck him good" then that's the kind of bullshit logic any asshole anywhere can use. Today it's you burning SE, but tomorrow?

I'm sorry man, but your rationale doesn't make near as much sense as a much simpler one: you hate SE. Here was this dirt bag who was faking half his shit, making trouble for the girls, treating them like shit. And because he's generating hits, Admin makes him off limits, so now there's no clean, legitimate way to expose him. Of course, the whole time SE's being a douche about the whole thing, and something just snapped. In an instant age SE was gone in just a few keystrokes. It sounds like a good portion of Philly posters hate SE.

Lencho.

PS: "Is it wrong to post a girls picture without permission" is a fair question. There are people on both sides of this argument. NONE of them deserve to be outed by you or anyone else for their position on this issue."Is it OK to take advantage of a girl, and to what degree" is another. NOBODY here deserves to be outed by you or anyone else for their position on this issue.

[QUOTE=Malodr;1112780]And because of him, we have lost a great contributor.[/QUOTE]I have not commented on the SE deal because honestly I am neutral on my feelings towards his reports. I know for a fact that some of his encouters were current and basically factual because I have picked up the same girl days later with the same results. I say basically factual because, unless your a complete moron, you could tell it was obviously a fantasy version of what really took place. I really think things should have been handled differently, however his ego and arrogance were getting out of control to the point that it seems his goal was ultimate control of the Philly forum. I wish this guy Malodr would stop treating Cookie like he was the reason this happened. All you do is put SE on a pedestal like he was the greatest person in the world and come off sounding like you're blowing him behind closed doors. You are doing exactly what he wanted everyone to do, Envy and Worship him. Regardless of the events that took place the Philly section will go on as it always has. I personally feel that Street Steve's comment that he will not post anymore has more to do with how SE was outed than anger over the outing. I could be wrong about this, but not posting is protest is not getting anywhere fast. I think everyone saw this coming whether you liked SE or not. Yes, you could ignore him, but his presence was still known. He was restricted to his own thread but would still pluck posts from other threads and bash them just the same. If he had mellowed a little with his ego and not been so in your face, I think everyone could have overlooked the embellished reports and questionable pictures.

JB

Damn you read my mind! While some people are fighting for the honor of a SW she is somewhere getting high or stucking another john's dick and have forgot all about this bull. I personally wouldn't even have posted what a SW told me. But the real question is this.

You pick up a girl for sex and the best thing you could think to talk about was the previous guy who's dick she sucked?

Maybe it's just me I know these girls have probably fucked before I picked her up but I'll just like to believe that at the very least I was the first that day. Now that's just me.

I for one miss all the pics that you post. Hopefully you will return to posting. I see that you were on [email]today@3am[/email] So I know you will read this and everything else that is being posted. There are alot of people that wants you to return.

[QUOTE=Johnboy; 1113034]I have not commented on the SE deal because honestly I am neutral on my feelings towards his reports. I know for a fact that some of his encouters were current and basically factual because I have picked up the same girl days later with the same results. I say basically factual because, unless your a complete moron, you could tell it was obviously a fantasy version of what really took place. I really think things should have been handled differently, however his ego and arrogance were getting out of control to the point that it seems his goal was ultimate control of the Philly forum. I wish this guy Malodr would stop treating Cookie like he was the reason this happened. All you do is put SE on a pedestal like he was the greatest person in the world and come off sounding like you're blowing him behind closed doors. You are doing exactly what he wanted everyone to do, Envy and Worship him. Regardless of the events that took place the Philly section will go on as it always has. I personally feel that Street Steve's comment that he will not post anymore has more to do with how SE was outed than anger over the outing. I could be wrong about this, but not posting is protest is not getting anywhere fast. I think everyone saw this coming whether you liked SE or not. Yes, you could ignore him, but his presence was still known. He was restricted to his own thread but would still pluck posts from other threads and bash them just the same. If he had mellowed a little with his ego and not been so in your face, I think everyone could have overlooked the embellished reports and questionable pictures.

JB[/QUOTE]And just for the record, I would be just as happy if this entire thread were deleted.

Happy New Year.

Z

I miss SE's posts. I am hoping that he will resume his posting. Failing that, perhaps someone willl post pix to replace SE's?

I have defended SE's civil rights against those who would violate his privacy. I continue to do so. Reviewing the whole episode, we might ask "Is there a MORAL error?" It is an interesting question for a board such as this.

What IS the question?

Did he engage with fems who were NOT SWs? [Sooo...]

Did he pay them for the pix? [WHAT??? Who would ever PAY a girl for such services...]

Did his post ever elaborate beyond the precise details of the encounter? [No idea--really don't care that much within reason.]

Did he irritate some with his arrogance? [May I say... what is your point? Have YOU ever been arrogant?]

Do any of these questions have anything with posting on this board?

Personally, I hope that he resumes his posting of pix and dialogs. Also, I think it would be fabulous if those who have faulted him would make posts of such high quality that we would forget this episode. The whole board would benefit.

Giani

This thread has served no purpose other than venting about SE since the incident. The only people keeping it alive are the out of towners who are pissed that the picture gallery is not full of new images every day as was the case prior to SE's outing. I personally, as well as most Philly area members, feel this thread should be locked. Nothing is going to come out of it other than flaming, etc. Which Jackson will only have to deal with later. I think it is obvious SE is not returning, so this thread no longer serves a purpose. The out of towners who are pissed mostly had nothing to gain from his reports except porn viewing anyway, and those that do get information can go to the other threads like all the locals. I vote to lock this thread and end this bickering now so we can all get back to the purpose Jackson set this forum up to do-find women for sex. Everyone who is with me please chime in so Jackson hears us! The rest of the porn loving out of towners, please return to your own threads and gripe there.

JB

[QUOTE=Johnboy; 1114989]This thread has served no purpose other than venting about SE since the incident. The only people keeping it alive are the out of towners who are pissed that the picture gallery is not full of new images every day as was the case prior to SE's outing. I personally, as well as most Philly area members, feel this thread should be locked. Nothing is going to come out of it other than flaming, etc. Which Jackson will only have to deal with later. I think it is obvious SE is not returning, so this thread no longer serves a purpose. The out of towners who are pissed mostly had nothing to gain from his reports except porn viewing anyway, and those that do get information can go to the other threads like all the locals. I vote to lock this thread and end this bickering now so we can all get back to the purpose Jackson set this forum up to do-find women for sex. Everyone who is with me please chime in so Jackson hears us! The rest of the porn loving out of towners, please return to your own threads and gripe there.

JB[/QUOTE]Well said and I support locking this thread.

[QUOTE=Philly Guy; 1115833]LAzydude.

You are not from Philadelphia so STFUDA. Super wrecked the ave and out of towners like you cheered him on. Start doing some work and posting girls nude from your home town. [/QUOTE]I'd say the majority of people think what happened to him was wrong and we lost a major contributor. I'm from Philadelphia, but you don't need to be from here to have an opinion.

I don't think SE's the friendliest guy either, but makes no sense for you to pounce on an out of towner who liked the pictures he posted. If you didn't like them, you could have ignored this thread altogether.

How exactly did he ruin Kensington?

People here are saps for SWs and told them they say nude photos of them on the internet and they got upset, right? These girls posed for a few bucks and they know photos can end up any place. They just cared about money at the time and that's related to drug addiction, not the trust of a John.

Blame the guys who told the girls, not like they found them on the internet themselves.

[QUOTE=Philly Guy;1115023]Well said and I support locking this thread.[/QUOTE][blue]Thread closed by Admin[/blue]