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Entrapment in Florida
[QUOTE=Bjceb;5807151]Florida statue 777.201 is the the Florida entrapment law.
I will not disagree that LEO will lie cheat and steal to arrest, but lawyers can make it go away. Still a pain in the butt, so always pays to be careful.
Thanks for all the info!
Stay safe and have fun![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nightowl21;5807332]Wow. I wonder how long that has been on the books. I've been told for a long time that Florida has no entrapment laws, but obviously you just proved that wrong. Dam, that's some good info. For everyone else that didn't know about it, here is the statute.
77.201 Entrapment. .
(1) A law enforcement officer, a person engaged in cooperation with a law enforcement officer, or a person acting as an agent of a law enforcement officer perpetrates an entrapment if, for the purpose of obtaining evidence of the commission of a crime, he or she induces or encourages and, as a direct result, causes another person to engage in conduct constituting such crime by employing methods of persuasion or inducement which create a substantial risk that such crime will be committed by a person other than one who is ready to commit it.
(2) A person prosecuted for a crime shall be acquitted if the person proves by a preponderance of the evidence that his or her criminal conduct occurred as a result of an entrapment. The issue of entrapment shall be tried by the trier of fact.
I wonder if that's why all the cases I have been referring to are getting dropped. I think I'll forward that info to the OCSO! LOL.[/QUOTE]Florida has had entrapment laws on the books for decades. While I have no doubt the examples given by the OP as an explanation for Florida NOT having entrapment laws are true, they do not stand for the proposition for a lack of such laws. Rather, they stand for the proposition that such laws are not always followed by law enforcement. From a jaded perspective, it's not hard to argue that cops are crooked, or they don't know the law, they don't care about the public, or whatever else. Trying to be as objective as possible, there are other issues at play as well. For example, LE might have a sting set up to bust guys trying to pick up street walkers. A guy pulls up to the UC, a conversation takes place and, while not necessarily blatantly offering cash for sex, it is clear what is going on. Then the guy looks to drive away. LE might well stop him and make the arrest to prevent him from going online and warning others about the sting operation. Another example would be where the sting is in a hotel room, the guy shows up, goes to the room of the UC and goes to fondle her breasts or crotch. LE might effectuate the arrest to avoid the physical contact between the guy and the UC. I do not mean to suggest that the gentlemen in the examples I gave SHOULD be arrested, I merely mean to suggest that, being objective, one might understand why LE effectuated the arrest. And, as has been suggested, a decent defense attorney ought to be able to obtain a favorable outcome for those examples. We should all be as cautious as we can out there. That said, there is just no way to 100% guarantee you'll never be arrested when participating in the hobby life. We can all be proactive in minimizing our risk, just know you cannot completely eliminate risk.
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[QUOTE=Mikaeles;5808532]That's why it's always best to keep your mouth shut. They will arrest you they will put your face on a website but the charges will get dropped if you admit to nothing or do nothing. I've been given a ticket leaving a massage parlor for rolling stop at a stop sign but all I did was get a massage so guess I'll get a stop sign ticket and be on my way.[/QUOTE]The one thing I've always thought was bullsh! is after you've been arrested and had your picture and charges splattered all over the web thanks to the mugshots sites, then the State Attorney agrees the cops F*d up and the charges are dropped, Why doesn't your charges and booking pic and info get taken off the sheriff sites without you having to gobthough the BS of getting expunged? Even when you win, they still win.
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Entrapment
Since this seems to be a forever going on topic, should it have its own thread? I mean I sure there's still p*say to be had on the streets right? Just have to think with the big head.
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Bike Week
As a Public Service and as a reminder, I'd like to mention and remind everyone that it's Bike Week this week, therefore another "major event" is in the area and ripe for Stingers and other nasty Traps that Uncle likes to set. As the week progresses, there will be lots of visitors in town over from the East Coast. Reports are the hotels are "sold out" in Daytona and there's lots of overflow in Orlando as usual.
Use all precautions and use common sense when dealing with the ladies.
Grain 56.
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Lauren
I don't post very often, but wanted to give everyone a heads up on Lauren. She's always had some issues here and there but has always been mostly reliable and fun. Not right now. I'd avoid her at all costs for the time being. I'm not even 100% sure it was really her texting me. New "boyfriend" maybe.
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[QUOTE=OrlandoJay;5809332]I don't post very often, but wanted to give everyone a heads up on Lauren. She's always had some issues here and there but has always been mostly reliable and fun. Not right now. I'd avoid her at all costs for the time being. I'm not even 100% sure it was really her texting me. New "boyfriend" maybe.[/QUOTE]I am done with her. She is firm on 80 for BBBJ. Her BBBJ is great and I used to be a regular and only did 40. She is still at Parc Conriche or whatever it is called off idrive and we did plenty of car BBBJ for 40. I even said ok 60 final and she said she is not a street walker it is 80 or nothing. Deleted her number fast.
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I called her to see her the other day and she picked up then texted me the address. But just as I was about to leave she said she had given me the wrong address. 10 minutes later she sent a new address. I called off the date at that point. I've seen her a ton of times over the past 5 years or so. But, that was just a little weird.
[QUOTE=OrlandoJay;5809332]I don't post very often, but wanted to give everyone a heads up on Lauren. She's always had some issues here and there but has always been mostly reliable and fun. Not right now. I'd avoid her at all costs for the time being. I'm not even 100% sure it was really her texting me. New "boyfriend" maybe.[/QUOTE]
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Lauren
[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy;5809788]I am done with her. She is firm on 80 for BBBJ. Her BBBJ is great and I used to be a regular and only did 40. She is still at Parc Conriche or whatever it is called off idrive and we did plenty of car BBBJ for 40. I even said ok 60 final and she said she is not a street walker it is 80 or nothing. Deleted her number fast.[/QUOTE]Most I'd do if she was like a last option would be 40. Seen her a few months back she was scabbed up looking pretty rough. Great head on her shoulders must say but 80 hell no!
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[QUOTE=ValenciaGuy;5809788]I am done with her. She is firm on 80 for BBBJ. Her BBBJ is great and I used to be a regular and only did 40. She is still at Parc Conriche or whatever it is called off idrive and we did plenty of car BBBJ for 40. I even said ok 60 final and she said she is not a street walker it is 80 or nothing. Deleted her number fast.[/QUOTE]Good. Next!
Missionary Man.
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KiKi
Anyone seen KiKi recently? Seems she has gone MIA from the seen.
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Kiki
[QUOTE=OrlandoMonger;5810515]Anyone seen KiKi recently? Seems she has gone MIA from the seen.[/QUOTE]Yes I saw her last Wednesday, tried to pick her up but didn't get in the car, said go a few houses down and then she will get in. Didn't like that so I drove off. Saw the dream aka amber wanted to get into my car but I avoid her. Also saw gps bianca on 23rd I avoid as well. Picked up 28 yr old bbw WSW juicy. Awesome FS. 40.
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[QUOTE=Too40;5810016]Most I'd do if she was like a last option would be 40. Seen her a few months back she was scabbed up looking pretty rough. Great head on her shoulders must say but 80 hell no![/QUOTE]This the same Lauren that stayed at the Arrow? Skinny brunette?
If so, she was one and done.
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Bianca GPS?
[QUOTE=Thanos1880;5810649]Yes I saw her last Wednesday, tried to pick her up but didn't get in the car, said go a few houses down and then she will get in. Didn't like that so I drove off. Saw the dream aka amber wanted to get into my car but I avoid her. Also saw gps bianca on 23rd I avoid as well. Picked up 28 yr old bbw WSW juicy. Awesome FS. 40.[/QUOTE]I must have missed something. When did Bianca become GPS? Better yet, what is considered GPS for Bianca?
I've seen her numerous times in numerous situations, including taking her 20 minutes off the Trail to my safest place and I have never given her more than a Graint or Trip Jacks maybe once or twice. Most sessions I give her a pair of Jacks or less for a big box garage FS session. I know she was being quasi-pimped out on the SW Thread as if she were UTR. Hopefully that shit didn't stick in her head that she thinks she has now become Weezie Jefferson and is movin' on up to the big time. LOL. I passed her twice in the past few weeks where she was doing her best to wave me down, then when I passed, she shrugged her shoulders are me. I am glad I didn't stop if she's expecting the Big-Big Money now.
That's too bad if she has.
Grain 56.
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Lol
I was by Best Buy today and two of the Benji BJ club were literally fist fighting to get into some dudes car. Which one of why'all had these thots out here fighting over you LOL.
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Raven
Raven the star is back in town. Met her by the Wawa South on the trail and went to her safe place fairly close. 200 for QV FS. Usually out of my range for roses but I just had to so I can scratch an online star off my bucket list. Definitely worth it but I wouldn't repeat. 200 can get me a weeks worth of fun elsewhere. Can't eat steak everyday.