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[QUOTE=TeddyBear77;4582560]To add to the conversation; since Cindy died this year, her son has taken over the management and scheduling of girls. Things seem to be going downhill and there is some drama going on in the background. Not to mention, at least 3 preggos on the current schedule, Leather and Lace.[/QUOTE]Sorry, can't resist, 2 for 1 with preggos, LOL.
[QUOTE=TeddyBear77;4582560]To add to the conversation; since Cindy died this year, her son has taken over the management and scheduling of girls. Things seem to be going downhill and there is some drama going on in the background. Not to mention, at least 3 preggos on the current schedule, Leather and Lace.[/QUOTE]What I want to know is who got them all pregnant? LOL. I know it ain't me, I've never been in the place. .
[QUOTE=TeddyBear77;4582560]To add to the conversation; since Cindy died this year, her son has taken over the management and scheduling of girls. Things seem to be going downhill and there is some drama going on in the background. Not to mention, at least 3 preggos on the current schedule, Leather and Lace.[/QUOTE]Part of the drama with the girls is that one of them is hooking up with Cindy's son and manipulating him to cause scheduling problems for other girls at the shop. Which girl? That, I did not ascertain.
This comes from one of the girls and as always must be taken with a grain of salt.
[QUOTE=Coozie;4582771]Part of the drama with the girls is that one of them is hooking up with Cindy's son and manipulating him to cause scheduling problems for other girls at the shop. Which girl? That, I did not ascertain.
This comes from one of the girls and as always must be taken with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]I heard the same from a girl still working there but not disclosing anything on here who's supposedly banging the new boss. Is a disgrace. As long as I've been a monger never have I once messed with any girl on the job where I'm employed jsimply doesn't work it's like shitting in your own backyard eventually you step in it. All these reviews about suspected misuse of credit cards very bad reviews for the new girl Bella who obviously wasn't screened or vetted properly before hiring is a culmination of piss poor real bad management looks like. As in this business where it's high risk at times in keeping LE at bay, health & safety concerns for the girls in addition to keeping up with the competition a shop must have strict discipline where discipline instills positive morale and that's the problem here there is no real boss and no discipline only chaos pandemonium and innuendo. Studios in my opinion is not the place it used to be. Someone needs to step up and manage this place properly or buy it out!
I use credit cards exclusively at AMPs (as long as they accept them). It is the safe way to pay.
Any fraudulent charges can be disputed and the fraudulent charges will be removed by the Bank.
I have never had to do that at an AAMP, but did it several times when a on-line store charges extra.
Once I supposedly bought something over $1000, but after disputing the charges, the Bank quickly canceled the charge. Don't be paranoid. It's safe. Bill Ho.
[QUOTE=Popeye40;4582615]You have to be careful using your credit card at any of these places including the ATMs first of all it's a paper trail and secondly some of these girls have criminal records and are desperate and wouldn't think twice about using your card fraudulently. I don't even use my card in restaurants anymore and if I do I follow the waiter or waitress watching them process the transaction. I work in loss mitigation and hear stories all day long about how someone missed use their credit card. Once it happens it's a nightmare to get it straight costs a lot of time and patience! Bottom line if you don't have cash to get a session stay home and jerk off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Coozie;4582771]Part of the drama with the girls is that one of them is hooking up with Cindy's son and manipulating him to cause scheduling problems for other girls at the shop. Which girl? That, I did not ascertain.
This comes from one of the girls and as always must be taken with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]I really find this hard to believe. But I can't reveal why.
[QUOTE=Orelius;4582602]Am I to understand "The Ritz" is a Caucasian Spa?[/QUOTE]Currently white girls and Latina girls but I'm sure they would hire an Asian if one applied.
[QUOTE=NakedCowboy69;4583275]I really find this hard to believe. But I can't reveal why.[/QUOTE]I go way back with Cindy and used to see her at her shop in St Pete and I'm talking around '06. I spoke with her several times her during her long illness and really did care about her. I don't know her son, but I do suggest that he get his head out of his ass and pay attention to his Mom's business.
For starters, how about posting the new weeks schedule on Sunday night? If that's impossible how about on Monday? If it takes until Tuesday to post the schedule, then you ain't doing it right.
[QUOTE=BananaOil;4583439]I go way back with Cindy and used to see her at her shop in St Pete and I'm talking around '06. I spoke with her several times her during her long illness and really did care about her. I don't know her son, but I do suggest that he get his head out of his ass and pay attention to his Mom's business.
For starters, how about posting the new weeks schedule on Sunday night? If that's impossible how about on Monday? If it takes until Tuesday to post the schedule, then you ain't doing it right.[/QUOTE]AMP v LMP / WMP (white massage parlor).
This is the first time that I was ever able to get FS in a CMP. I used to love in the Mid west and you be lucky if you got a hand job. In that place, mama-san has a peep show so she or your co-workers can rat you out. How did the Studio started? I did hear various name with that place Nina (I would love to be service by her- great bosy), then Luna by Fowler was manager and no provider listen to her and then it crapped out. I am only assuming that these places been around for decades and don't see them getting busted with the various administration in the various counties unless someone wants to buy a yacht or a 2 week vacation for free. I can only assume by Chad and Jane bust that:
1. Kennedy Blvd is either not a target or paid up to high level cops and local politicans (I did say that there was a few maybe more stories of them.
2. That incoming apartment complex focusing in on the young professional in Seminole Heights little live doubt to why TPD is still sniffing around even on Busch (granted bad areas anywaT, BUT WE COULD SEE AT LEAST 6 SW A DAY, NOT A JOKE).
I do guess the business end of these places. Aren't AMP have some Human traffic victims and shits is done? VvI do apologize to all for beating a dead horse yet again. Anyway, stay safe, out of trouble to provider and mongers alike. See you all in 2020.
[QUOTE=BananaOil;4583439]I go way back with Cindy and used to see her at her shop in St Pete and I'm talking around '06. I spoke with her several times her during her long illness and really did care about her. I don't know her son, but I do suggest that he get his head out of his ass and pay attention to his Mom's business.
For starters, how about posting the new weeks schedule on Sunday night? If that's impossible how about on Monday? If it takes until Tuesday to post the schedule, then you ain't doing it right.[/QUOTE]Their twitter and a couple new ones kept getting reported to twitter so I think they gave up for awhile. However they were doing that daily when that was running.
[QUOTE=TPAMonger;4583508]Their twitter and a couple new ones kept getting reported to twitter so I think they gave up for awhile. However they were doing that daily when that was running.[/QUOTE]Their new site is updated with this weeks schedule.
[URL]http://www.floridarelaxationstudios.com/schedule/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BillHo;4583255]I use credit cards exclusively at AMPs (as long as they accept them). It is the safe way to pay.
Any fraudulent charges can be disputed and the fraudulent charges will be removed by the Bank.
I have never had to do that at an AAMP, but did it several times when a on-line store charges extra.
Once I supposedly bought something over $1000, but after disputing the charges, the Bank quickly canceled the charge. Don't be paranoid. It's safe. Bill Ho.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I used a card at several of them for awhile and then had someone go into a local store and try to use the number to buy a laptop. I had it cancelled. But I don't like having my CC number out there. I use cash, makes things easy. Use your card at your own risk.
Visited the studios' new website and must say whoever put it together did a first class job! Easy to use site is updated in real time and has a weekly schedule in place of a 24 hour schedule so you can plan seeing whichever attendant you want. You can also schedule an appointment with a particular attendant within their profile. Pics look accurate on the girls as far as I can see. Site only needs new pics of the girls and it'll look like a whole new business!
So there's this AMP near my place called All Seasons Massage, and I was curious about what services they provided and to see if its worth the time and money.
[QUOTE=Jiubi;4585637]So there's this AMP near my place called All Seasons Massage, and I was curious about what services they provided and to see if its worth the time and money.[/QUOTE]So not a shabby place.
FS is available $. 4.
I took there hour their, it did feel slightly rushed so don't go looking for an actual rub cause it did seem they want to get to the good part and turn you, so pay for h / h.
Can anyone help out? I'm looking for lady who does real massages with all or some of the extras. I used to this lovely black lady who when by the name "Raine". I'd prefer someone like that. Someone with an incall. If any can recommend, you can send info to my box or if Raine is still around let me know.
Hot MILF Rose is back at Hippi Massage after a long hiatus. Says she'll be there for a long time. There's also some other girl whose name I could not understand due to her almost non-existent English. Decent looking, but no Rose.
[QUOTE=TPAMonger;4583688]Their new site is updated with this weeks schedule.
[URL]http://www.floridarelaxationstudios.com/schedule/[/URL][/QUOTE]A new website is not enough to save a business going downhill. There are better options out there pertaining to the quality of service and type of provider available.
[QUOTE=TeddyBear77;4588555]A new website is not enough to save a business going downhill. There are better options out there pertaining to the quality of service and type of provider available.[/QUOTE]Is Gemini a better option?
[QUOTE=SteveL;4588586]Is Gemini a better option?[/QUOTE]I am not sure Gemini is a better choice though. To me, consistency is a big thing for this type of places. Gemini is a highly YMMV on each girl's pricing and service based on my experience. Then again, with all changes going on these days around Tampa / St. Pete area, I will never rule out any potential choices. .
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4588226]Hot MILF Rose is back at Hippi Massage after a long hiatus. Says she'll be there for a long time. There's also some other girl whose name I could not understand due to her almost non-existent English. Decent looking, but no Rose.[/QUOTE]Rose is the best in the business.
Decided to close out 2019 and to see none other than my ATF Mia at the studios for an impromptu session. She was definitely surprised to see me and stayed for session. Mia has a little baby bump barely showing and session was great as good as ever. YMMV as I didn't last too long but made it to the final event and exploded my man chowder in the bag!! Couldn't hold it no more Popeye is getting older but very enjoyable session left relaxed and ready for work. Mia is an experienced provider enthusiastic about what she does and it shows in her sessions. Go see her you won't be disappointed!
[QUOTE=TeddyBear77;4588555]A new website is not enough to save a business going downhill. There are better options out there pertaining to the quality of service and type of provider available.[/QUOTE]The only other options out there is 6 shops which are good options very good selection of girls but totally different business than the studios which is a smaller operation and 6 shops is slightly more expensive and has no discounts for military or for visitors like the studios do and rewards for discount after so many visits. The only problem I see with the studios with a lot of mongers lately out there is that they are disappointed that Maura was not put back on the studios schedule and disappeared from the business. Just because the studios refused to put Maura back on their schedule doesn't mean that the studios' business is failing or going downhill as you say. Simply means they probably had a valid reason (s) for not continuing with putting Maura on the schedule such as maybe something simple as being on time and working the shift as scheduled. Not saying the studios is perfect as Bella should of never been hired but all businesses make mistakes and adjust but the business is not going down hill by any means as you say. Maura will be back soon as an independent escort just keep checking listcrawler.
Has any one been to Osaka lately? I have not gone in a long time.
[QUOTE=LuvJackShack;4589242]Rose is the best in the business.[/QUOTE]I don't see many detailed reviews on her. Anyone have more info or know of one of their friends who had a dream with some activities they dreamt of. Getting tired of Han river with covered headache relief in my dream.
I can never remember their names. It's not what it used to be. I used to get BBBJ there but the two girls there now don't. At least not at the $ tip I'm offering. They have both requested $. 40 but they are old and not so attractive. For that rate there are much better options. I stopped going there.
[QUOTE=MaxxD0941;4590066]Has any one been to Osaka lately? I have not gone in a long time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaxxD0941;4590066]Has any one been to Osaka lately? I have not gone in a long time.[/QUOTE]Well, you would have to define "long time" as there is quite a bit of history there (decades nearly). It is not up to par of early days even remotely, nor as good as was few years ago (when Mimi was there) either. Definitely better places in bay area.
[QUOTE=JbKicks1990;4575330]Soda is the hottest girl I have seen at any AMP, by far.[/QUOTE]Are there pictures of either of them anywhere?
I did some looking but did not discover any yet. If there is a link that would be great. Thanks.
[QUOTE=NakedCowboy69;4562457]Stopped at 2 am, no answer. Rang bell 3 times and was pretty patient. I see Summer tweeted she isn't working tonight change of schedule. Wonder if they are closed up or something? No tweets from Lavender in 3 days. Anyone know? Call first if you are headed there I guess.[/QUOTE]Tried again over weekend. Only Mariah working, those photos on twitter were MAYBE her at one time. A sweetheart but not what you would be expecting. I wish someone else had been working but it was an ok time.
[QUOTE=Charlie155;4592421][QUOTE=JbKicks1990;4575330]Soda is the hottest girl I have seen at any AMP, by far.[/QUOTE]Are there pictures of either of them anywhere?
I did some looking but did not discover any yet. If there is a link that would be great. Thanks.[/QUOTE]No.
None of the established Tampa area AMPs are ever going to display or post real photos of the girls working. At most, some of them may use a selection of the MANY available online stock photos of beautiful Asian girls, some of which MAY resemble actual talent on staff (or may not).
This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]If you paid it once, they know you'll pay it again.
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Sounds about right, average is 220-240.
[QUOTE=WhosThirsty;4597351][QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Sounds about right, average is 220-240.[/QUOTE]I agree with WThirsty that the TOTAL cost should be around $240 for an hour of FS at Orange (and Yoshiko, Han River, Spa36, and a few others). That breaks down to an $80 House Fee + a $160 tip for the girl. I seem to recall that Bamboo, on Kennedy, was a Tier 2 (or 3) AMP and wouldn't merit that same tip. Maybe $120 if the talent is as I recall old reports from long ago. I've not been to Lotus or Qspa, so I'm not sure of their talent level. Basically, anything similar to what I believe you found at Orange Spa would be the $160 for an hour. I also recall that Yoshiko was (recently) only doing 45-minute sessions, so I personally wouldn't tip more than $120 to $140 for that amount of time.
HOWEVER, if you're being told you must TIP $200+ (on top of the $80 House Fee), then THAT is way too much. I would speculate that the mistake you're making is related to the last statement in your post; "Are (you) asking the wrong questions. " If you're asking questions at ALL, that's the first mistake. The second mistake would be letting the girl set the tip price starting point. Doing that, you're always going to get the girl to start high, usually at $200 for the tip. You offer less, then there's back and forth, then you settle on some amount. "Negotiating" in this manner is never a good idea, as it's just better to do your research here so you KNOW the expected costs before you even go in.
The better approach, in my opinion and experience, would be to pay the House Fee at the start (either to the Mamasan or the girl when she first enters the room, depending on which AMP you're at), then ask for a shower if they don't automatically offer (most usually do). With "Assisted Table Showers" being OFF the menu within Tampa City limits, this will be a self-service shower, but don't skip that part as it helps assure the girl that you're as CLEAN as possible (and make sure to wash your undercarriage thoroughly and as deep into your ass-crack as your middle finger can reach). AS SOON AS YOU RETURN from the shower with the girl, she may dry you off a bit or she may ask you to lay "face down" on the table. At THIS point, you pause and say "One moment", then you get the exact tip amount out of your pocket ($160), turn and hand it to the girl (while standing in front of her with no towel or cover of any kind) and hand it to her while saying exactly this: "Here, let me pay you the tip now. For EVERYTHING. ".
This sends the message that you're experienced, maybe have even been there before, and you KNOW the standard tip. Use of the word "EVERYTHING" is essential as that word is AMP-lingo that means FS.
The girl may count the money in front of you to verify that you have the right amount. If she says you must pay more, then you say that this is the amount you've ALWAYS paid. If she continues to insist for more money, hold your hand out and ask to count it yourself (this is just a ploy to get her to willingly put it back in your hand. Usually they NEVER want to do that), then count it and tell her that's the right amount, so if it's not enough for her, assure her that you "understand she needs more" so she must be out of your price range and attempt to get dressed immediately so you can LEAVE. Doing this will probably result in losing the House Fee, but you can TRY to ask for that back too. If you make a big enough scene, there's a coin-flip chance you may get it.
When you attempt to leave, in about 80%-90% of the cases, she will tell you that she'll accept that amount (because they do NOT want that money walking out the door). If you actually get to this point (I'm guessing that most of the time the girl will take the offered tip without question), make sure you remain totally respectful and polite and NOT indignant that she's trying to gyp you out of money. If you piss off the girl AND she says she will accept your tip, you've probably just signed up for some really crappy, far less than satisfying, rushed and impersonal service. You'll end up wishing you HAD walked out. If the girl is acting pissed off inspite of your attempt to remain polite and respectful, you should probably walk out anyway and consider the House Fee the cost of a learning experience (unless you can get it back).
[QUOTE=DrWilly;4598359]I agree with WThirsty that the TOTAL cost should be around $240 for an hour of FS at Orange (and Yoshiko, Han River, Spa36, and a few others). That breaks down to an $80 House Fee + a $160 tip for the girl. I seem to recall that Bamboo, on Kennedy, was a Tier 2 (or 3) AMP and wouldn't merit that same tip. Maybe $120 if the talent is as I recall old reports from long ago. I've not been to Lotus or Qspa, so I'm not sure of their talent level. Basically, anything similar to what I believe you found at Orange Spa would be the $160 for an hour. I also recall that Yoshiko was (recently) only doing 45-minute sessions, so I personally wouldn't tip more than $120 to $140 for that amount of time.
HOWEVER, if you're being told you must TIP $200+ (on top of the $80 House Fee), then THAT is way too much. I would speculate that the mistake you're making is related to the last statement in your post; "Are (you) asking the wrong questions. " If you're asking questions at ALL, that's the first mistake. The second mistake would be letting the girl set the tip price starting point. Doing that, you're always going to get the girl to start high, usually at $200 for the tip. You offer less, then there's back and forth, then you settle on some amount. "Negotiating" in this manner is never a good idea, as it's just better to do your research here so you KNOW the expected costs before you even go in.
The better approach, in my opinion and experience, would be to pay the House Fee at the start (either to the Mamasan or the girl when she first enters the room, depending on which AMP you're at), then ask for a shower if they don't automatically offer (most usually do). With "Assisted Table Showers" being OFF the menu within Tampa City limits, this will be a self-service shower, but don't skip that part as it helps assure the girl that you're as CLEAN as possible (and make sure to wash your undercarriage thoroughly and as deep into your ass-crack as your middle finger can reach). AS SOON AS YOU RETURN from the shower with the girl, she may dry you off a bit or she may ask you to lay "face down" on the table. At THIS point, you pause and say "One moment", then you get the exact tip amount out of your pocket ($160), turn and hand it to the girl (while standing in front of her with no towel or cover of any kind) and hand it to her while saying exactly this: "Here, let me pay you the tip now. For EVERYTHING. "[/QUOTE]Excellent advice. I agree with this post 100%.
[QUOTE=TampaLutz;4596618]This is my first post. I have been to Orange, Lotus, Qspa, Bamboo and several others. My experience has been that I can expect to pay $200+ at any of these places for FS with CBJ finish. I read others paying substantially less, but any negotiations I have attempted have been fruitless. What am I doing wrong? Where should I be going? Am I asking the wrong questions?[/QUOTE]Bunch of millionaires in here paying double for mediocre thin 45 year old Asian women.
You could be enjoying the 20-30 year old goddesses at the Ritz or similar.
Did the old AMP now called Arcade something open yet? I seen 2 cars but, they could have been workers or owners. The open sign was not on (kinda answering my own question, but anyone know what it's going to be like in there?
[QUOTE=TPAMonger;4598682]Bunch of millionaires in here paying double for mediocre thin 45 year old Asian women.
You could be enjoying the 20-30 year old goddesses at the Ritz or similar.[/QUOTE]Goddesses and The Ritz should not be said in the same sentence.
Decided to check out this place again. Last time there was a pretty older provider in a teddy. This time there was simple shorts and a shirt, nothing special just standard. Anyone know if they offer more? Nice girl and great massage. Tipped 30 and she seemed happy.
RubRatings is not the right place as most of them are fake.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/158412[/URL] - Digits says (850) 250-5665.
Phone: (850) xxxx665.
Location: Tampa.
Same number is being posted on NewYork as well with diff face.
[URL]https://newyork.rubratings.com/153839?layout=list[/URL]
Phone: (850) xxxx666.
Location: Soho / midtown.
Has anyone had better experiences with RubRating providers?
Thanks.