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Wow, that is a terrible situation for anyone to be in.
Damn, on a completely selfish note I was hoping to see Beth this weekend and well had seen Krystal last month, damn, hope that wasnt one of you guys caught there with them when the troopers and homeland freaking security arrived, shit. Maybe I'll take a break from the hobby a while. Play it safe guys.
This is terrible. I liked Kristal, but now it makes me sick that this was part of this sick guy's operation. How can we be more vigilant and distinguish independent girls with those associated with forced crime? My other worry is as you said, they texted the addresses, does LE now have all the phone numbers of those who participated? What will be the consequences?
[QUOTE=HagsJoe;2333427]Just now read that article, that's some level of scum.
Hope the girls recover emotionally and physically.
On a selfish note, thank God I parked away from both houses (the real one, and the one closeby that I was told to go to)
F'in idiot had them text the (wrong) address. That's got to be another extra charge for that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Monstah;2331693][URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ruby-your-venezuelan-petite-goddess/4624653[/URL]
...Will deff repeat looks like she gets a different girl every week or so.[/QUOTE]There's not a limitless source in a state the size of RI, so given that RI isn't like Vegas or FL with people from all over wanting to move here, Where could she possibly be getting a different girl every week from?
[QUOTE=Mds03;2333678]This is terrible. I liked Kristal, but now it makes me sick that this was part of this sick guy's operation. How can we be more vigilant and distinguish independent girls with those associated with forced crime? My other worry is as you said, they texted the addresses, does LE now have all the phone numbers of those who participated? What will be the consequences?[/QUOTE]You have just given everyone the importance of getting a monger phone that cannot be traced to you by the phone number when making calls to any provider. You may be careful or lucky enough to never get caught in a LE sting but you have no control over what happens to the phone records of any of these providers.
On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.
[QUOTE=Mds03;2333678]This is terrible. I liked Kristal, but now it makes me sick that this was part of this sick guy's operation. How can we be more vigilant and distinguish independent girls with those associated with forced crime? My other worry is as you said, they texted the addresses, does LE now have all the phone numbers of those who participated? What will be the consequences?[/QUOTE]Really curious question from a noobie. Do you think LE will track down hundreds if not thousands of numbers, many of which are burner phones? And if they find you, start visiting and asking when you were there, what happened etc? And then match it up to what these women say? Its a good idea, but probably logistically very difficult.
If that's happening, this is a huge investigation and going to absorb a ton of budget and dough.
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[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2333977][URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/evelyn-rose-angel-face-and-hell-of-a-body-beauty-queen-the-best-experience/4609347[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh Wow, are those sizzling pics real? I'm supposed to be giving up the hobby for a while CadiC, damn you. She got no TER reviews though.
[QUOTE=Worgent6;2333986]Oh Wow, are those sizzling pics real? I'm supposed to be giving up the hobby for a while CadiC, damn you. She got no TER reviews though.[/QUOTE]No reviews because she posted first time today under RI. Looks like she came from Florida. Pics don't come up as some one else but some are BP Florida adds previous and she says new to RI?? But who knows till you actually go and blo!
[QUOTE=NYMonger;2333936]Really curious question from a noobie. Do you think LE will track down hundreds if not thousands of numbers, many of which are burner phones? And if they find you, start visiting and asking when you were there, what happened etc? And then match it up to what these women say? Its a good idea, but probably logistically very difficult.
If that's happening, this is a huge investigation and going to absorb a ton of budget and dough.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt LE is going to do anything with any contacts, there is absolutely no crime in contacting someone and any texts are all hearsay.
In terms of the situation, it sounds awful but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as the media has portrayed it. I hope they both get whatever help they need though. If indeed there was coercion that guy deserves as much jail time as the law allows. I'd never knowingly visit someone in that situation but if you are in this hobby then chances are it's going to happen sooner or later. Something to think about.
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2334000]No reviews because she posted first time today under RI. Looks like she came from Florida. Pics don't come up as some one else but some are BP Florida adds previous and she says new to RI?? But who knows till you actually go and blo![/QUOTE]Valencia (same pictures) in FL has reviews. Just posted there on Tuesday. Nothing great 6-7. Probably not the same person, just the same pictures but I can't be certain.
[QUOTE=NYMonger;2333936]Really curious question from a noobie. Do you think LE will track down hundreds if not thousands of numbers, many of which are burner phones? And if they find you, start visiting and asking when you were there, what happened etc? And then match it up to what these women say? Its a good idea, but probably logistically very difficult.
If that's happening, this is a huge investigation and going to absorb a ton of budget and dough.[/QUOTE]They brought in the FBI and home land security for this rescue. Grabbed a big headline about helping people. No glory in going after clients at this point. Something more was going on here. They claimed that the address was in ba BP ad and that got them the search warrant. Of course the address wasn't in an ad. Who brings the FBI and home land security in to arrest a couple of hookers?
Beth was Ashley back in September I think she changed her name to Beth around the end of November. I guess no one saw her as Ashley though because it was never mentioned here. I think Krystal was Nicole at some point also.
It's okay to be cynical, but in this case when both the FBI and HLS were involved with a multi month surveillance and planning operation, I believe it has to be legit.
Problem with a burner is where do you hide it?
[QUOTE=PSil;2333843]You have just given everyone the importance of getting a monger phone that cannot be traced to you by the phone number when making calls to any provider. You may be careful or lucky enough to never get caught in a LE sting but you have no control over what happens to the phone records of any of these providers.
On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PSil;2333843]You have just given everyone the importance of getting a monger phone that cannot be traced to you by the phone number when making calls to any provider. You may be careful or lucky enough to never get caught in a LE sting but you have no control over what happens to the phone records of any of these providers.
On another tack, not to be a total jerk and completely insensitive to the plight of the women who are being trafficked to do this, because I would never knowingly get involved with them if I knew, I wonder about one possibility. If I were a woman who got "caught" in a LE sweep, and I realized that I could instantly change my status from being a criminal to a victim by claiming that I was being forced and coerced into this work, what would I do? I'm not suggesting that I know anything at all about these two women or that the story they told isn't completely accurate. But my cynical nature makes me wonder.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I was thinking P Sil. Who knows what the truth is, but I could easily see the girls talking to the other one night when the pimp is away saying "Hey I just had a great idea, if we get busted, lets say he threated our families, etc. Etc. Etc. ". Also are the girls really the "victims" here if they are having sex with guys to fund their drug habits?
[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2333977][URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/evelyn-rose-angel-face-and-hell-of-a-body-beauty-queen-the-best-experience/4609347[/URL][/QUOTE]This is the same Ashley that was flat chested and wacked out at cheeters back a few years ago. Looks like she has had some body work done and is now looking beter than ever. Don't know if I would be getting BBBJ seems she has some miles on her.