Like Beef Lolo?

Very good questions, JennaDean, especially for the "Like Beef Lolo" thread where more freedom of expression is supposed to be allowed. I've posted my responses below.

[QUOTE=JennaDean;3722627]Aloha! I have a question. I know that this site is for gentlemen mainly to discuss freely their adventures and get advice and what not, but would you all really rather not have providers participate in the forum. I just figure you can learn a lot about some over time through open communication and observation. Taking the word of other people can't just be enough to make a decision on where to put your hard earned money especially with all the shill reports that are noted to go around. I mean I could be wrong and I'm probably wanted rn to shut the hell up but sorry it's not my nature when I'm curious and need a better understanding. Just wondering cause I read a lot and so much is said about a person after only 30 min to an hr of time spent with such deep misconceptions of who they are as an individual.[/QUOTE]Personally, I enjoy having providers participate on the forum, especially intelligent ones like you. I think that much can be learned from the posts of providers, just like much can be learned from listening to providers in real life. However, it's apparently a very sensitive issue on this forum. Previously I briefly posted about providers whose forum contributions I liked, and named a few of them (including you), but my post was deleted without explanation. Poof, gone!

Mongers who don't like the posts of providers can simply refrain from reading them, or even place the providers on "ignore". It's hilarious how some men appear to be frightened of providers invading their "private" club (which really isn't private because anyone in the world with internet service can read the posts). "Eek, it's a mouse!" "Please, please, we're snowflakes who need our safe space". Indeed, it's reminiscent of little boys who place signs saying "No girls allowed!" outside their treehouse, LOL. One idea would be to have a separate section for provider posts, so it would be even easier for men who dislike them to avoid the emotional trauma of reading them (smile).

[QUOTE=JennaDean;3722627]One more question.

Do you guys really consider the provider to see if she's enjoying it as well? Like are you receptive to her guidance when she's trying to give it to you being that it's her body and she knows what feels good? Or just go ham? Cause I'll be the first to admit now, I'll give guidance and if your NOT receptive to it then I WILL FALL INTO ROUTINE because now your letting me know you could give a shit and just want a nut, which is fine.

Just curious like I said. Xoxo JD.[/QUOTE]Personally, I would like a provider to enjoy a session as best she can, and will accommodate reasonable requests to help her do so (such as performing DATY in the manner she prefers). Plus, if the provider is enjoying the session, or at least not disliking it, then she may provide better service. So it's not like I don't "give a shit and just want a nut" (to quote your post). On the other hand, though, realistically the bottom line is that I'm a customer paying a businesswoman for a service, and if there happens to be a conflict between the provider's satisfaction and my satisfaction, my satisfaction (within reasonable limits) should be the provider's primary goal. For example, one provider wanted to use a vibrator on her clitoris during missionary position sex, which unfortunately I found distracting and uncomfortable. So I asked her to discontinue placing the vibrator between her genital area and mine, and she complied with my request.

[QUOTE=JennaDean;3722627]Aloha! I have a question. I know that this site is for gentlemen mainly to discuss freely their adventures and get advice and what not, but would you all really rather not have providers participate in the forum. I just figure you can learn a lot about some over time through open communication and observation. Taking the word of other people can't just be enough to make a decision on where to put your hard earned money especially with all the shill reports that are noted to go around. I mean I could be wrong and I'm probably wanted rn to shut the hell up but sorry it's not my nature when I'm curious and need a better understanding. Just wondering cause I read a lot and so much is said about a person after only 30 min to an hr of time spent with such deep misconceptions of who they are as an individual.

One more question.

Do you guys really consider the provider to see if she's enjoying it as well? Like are you receptive to her guidance when she's trying to give it to you being that it's her body and she knows what feels good? Or just go ham? Cause I'll be the first to admit now, I'll give guidance and if your NOT receptive to it then I WILL FALL INTO ROUTINE because now your letting me know you could give a shit and just want a nut, which is fine.

Just curious like I said. Xoxo JD.[/QUOTE]FWIW, I enjoy reading your posts, Jenna; and I support your participation here. I also go along with what Redneck said in response to your questions.

[QUOTE=JennaDean;3722627]Aloha! I have a question. I know that this site is for gentlemen mainly to discuss freely their adventures and get advice and what not, but would you all really rather not have providers participate in the forum. I just figure you can learn a lot about some over time through open communication and observation. Taking the word of other people can't just be enough to make a decision on where to put your hard earned money especially with all the shill reports that are noted to go around. I mean I could be wrong and I'm probably wanted rn to shut the hell up but sorry it's not my nature when I'm curious and need a better understanding. Just wondering cause I read a lot and so much is said about a person after only 30 min to an hr of time spent with such deep misconceptions of who they are as an individual.
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One more question.

Do you guys really consider the provider to see if she's enjoying it as well? Like are you receptive to her guidance when she's trying to give it to you being that it's her body and she knows what feels good? Or just go ham? Cause I'll be the first to admit now, I'll give guidance and if your NOT receptive to it then I WILL FALL INTO ROUTINE because now your letting me know you could give a shit and just want a nut, which is fine.

Just curious like I said. Xoxo JD.[/QUOTE][BLUE]No to the first part because of the second part. I totally, 100%, respect a sex workers right to decide what her limits are in their work, their body, their choices. I would guess that a sex worker could service a niche market where she would only accept clients who make her cum and as long as that was disclosed in advance and everybody wants that ok. Because end of day she would be servicing their needs and being compensated for that. But what you're saying is why don't you give a sex worker the same consideration that you would a SO and the reason for that is because I'm paying you. It's your job to figure out what I want, not mine to figure out what you want.

We have a word for it, it's called GPS and I'll be fucked before I let it over run this forum. In this I am 100% unapologetic. We used to let providers do it more Redneck and what happened, in EVERY case was the white knights put the guys who disagreed with, or heavens to betsy argued with the provider. Woman always, 100% of the time expect men to conform to their norms when they move in on something like this. They say they won't but they do. So we put an end to it.

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The fact that you're even asking the question would be all I would need to know to not see you if I lived in your market.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3728989][BLUE]No to the first part because of the second part. I totally, 100%, respect a sex workers right to decide what her limits are in their work, their body, their choices. I would guess that a sex worker could service a niche market where she would only accept clients who make her cum and as long as that was disclosed in advance and everybody wants that ok. Because end of day she would be servicing their needs and being compensated for that. But what you're saying is why don't you give a sex worker the same consideration that you would a SO and the reason for that is because I'm paying you. It's your job to figure out what I want, not mine to figure out what you want.

We have a word for it, it's called GPS and I'll be fucked before I let it over run this forum. In this I am 100% unapologetic. We used to let providers do it more Redneck and what happened, in EVERY case was the white knights put the guys who disagreed with, or heavens to betsy argued with the provider. Woman always, 100% of the time expect men to conform to their norms when they move in on something like this. They say they won't but they do. So we put an end to it.

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The fact that you're even asking the question would be all I would need to know to not see you if I lived in your market.[/QUOTE]Ahhhh I just re read my post from your perspective and I can totally see how you got that perception of me. However what I was referencing to is not so much about my climax but more my physical comfort to tolerate pain that may be occurring during such times. Like teeth for instance no one likes it. Its painful. So when I begin to feel pained I revert to routine with a smile and utmost respect. .

[QUOTE=JennaDean;3729080]Ahhhh I just re read my post from your perspective and I can totally see how you got that perception of me. However what I was referencing to is not so much about my climax but more my physical comfort to tolerate pain that may be occurring during such times. Like teeth for instance no one likes it. Its painful. So when I begin to feel pained I revert to routine with a smile and utmost respect..[/QUOTE]Agree 100%, just because somebody is selling me a commercial sexual service doesn't mean they need to suffer serious pain unless I paid extra for that. I just fucked a little tiny spinner today and when I was preparing to slide the dagger into the sheath she stopped me for a second and asked "slowly please. " Of course I did just that, I started slow and was soon able to engage the hyperdrive to finish. Once she said there was an issue I made sure that she was ok at several stages. There is nothing at all wrong with this and I agree it's my responsibility to respect reasonable boundaries.

I've banged a lot of hookers in my life and only one couldn't finish due to pain. It kinda pissed me off that she wouldn't refund the money because I didn't jackhammer her and cause the issue. She was sore and took a gig when she shouldn't have. Since she had to stop me she should have returned the money.

Apologies, I read your original post to say I have some responsibility to make sure you are sexually satisfied. I think smart mongers who want to repeat with a chick are well advised to do this but it can never be a responsibility and should be a bonus not a requirement for the chick. Unless as I said, that was the arrangement at the beginning.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3728989] [BLUE] it's called GPS [/BLUE] ./QUOTE]Just an aside: for anyone wondering about the meaning of "GPS" in this context, as I was at first, it's an acronym for "Golden Pussy Syndrome".

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3729353]Just an aside: for anyone wondering about the meaning of "GPS" in this context, as I was at first, it's an acronym for "Golden Pussy Syndrome".[/QUOTE]Same here. I thought 'GPS', as in: her pimp, or cop or underworld friends will find you.

Btw that was clever of you Red, the way you circumvented the requirements for brackets on tags re: vBulletin errors. I'm just a caveman and had to delete everything.

[QUOTE=HMobius;3729709]Same here. I thought 'GPS', as in: her pimp, or cop or underworld friends will find you.

Btw that was clever of you Red, the way you circumvented the requirements for brackets on tags re: vBulletin errors. I'm just a caveman and had to delete everything.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but it wasn't intentional. My post was perfectly formatted when I checked it in "Preview," then I submitted it and something apparently happened afterward.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3729143]Agree 100%, just because somebody is selling me a commercial sexual service doesn't mean they need to suffer serious pain unless I paid extra for that. I just fucked a little tiny spinner today and when I was preparing to slide the dagger into the sheath she stopped me for a second and asked "slowly please. " Of course I did just that, I started slow and was soon able to engage the hyperdrive to finish. Once she said there was an issue I made sure that she was ok at several stages. There is nothing at all wrong with this and I agree it's my responsibility to respect reasonable boundaries.

I've banged a lot of hookers in my life and only one couldn't finish due to pain. It kinda pissed me off that she wouldn't refund the money because I didn't jackhammer her and cause the issue. She was sore and took a gig when she shouldn't have. Since she had to stop me she should have returned the money.

Apologies, I read your original post to say I have some responsibility to make sure you are sexually satisfied. I think smart mongers who want to repeat with a chick are well advised to do this but it can never be a responsibility and should be a bonus not a requirement for the chick. Unless as I said, that was the arrangement at the beginning.[/QUOTE]Oh yes you are absolutely right about that! I agree 100% with that and yes even a refund if not at least half or something. It's just good customer service and on our side, it is our responsibility to make sure that we can perform the task at hand that has been asked, as well as proper preparation. I myself have been in a situation where I started my mentrual and bled on the gentlemen but I apologized and gave him a partial refund. But because of the reaction I saw on his face I make it a point to let people know ahead of time and leave it to their discretion to still see me or not because then I will not give a refund or a discount if they agree. OMG yeah. And I was asked once to lower my rates because of being challenged with Rheumatoid Arthritis and it's visible in my hands. Uuuummmmm NO! Their fully functional Hahahahahah! It's just funny when I flip the bird LOL.

But anyway back to the subject. Thank you for your honesty I appreciate it. That was nice of you to oblige to your friend for the hour. You could've went ham but didn't. You know I was talking to a friend of mine and I was telling him that since being back in the Bznz I've met more respectful men then when I was regularly dating after my divorce. Crazy thing is they don't have to be as polite and courteous as they are to me due to the situation at hand but they are, and of course you have the others. I'm just saying it's a big trip to me. Idk if I made sense there hope I did. .

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[QUOTE=MattSurf;3745355]L-9. 5.

A-8.

S-6.

http://honolulu.backpage.com/Transgender/323-592-8263/10114797

TOFTT... glad i did. Way,way better than her pics. Reminds me of Sara from Tyoko spa but younger and junker sex. Slight PRS but total germ freak.

For some reason, she posted in the TS section but definitely not a TS. Nice young spinner first day working and first time for me going to the 1287 king st, 201. No sign, just the white door with a number. Very small, maybe four rooms but surprising had some young hotties walking around. I'll have to check the place out again. Gave the $60 HF and was good to get naked on the actual massage table. Might actually be a legit massage place but the girls were all hot and dressed sexy so who knows. She came back in really sexy in a nice short denim skirt and tube top with her hard cees nips busting through. She got on top of me and started massaging my front and I could feel her bare pussy on my thigh so I asked for FS and she asked for $$. I said I only got $140 and she said no way. So started to get dressed and she changed her mind. Managed to sneak a bit of daft though and she did have a beautiful pussy with some hair on top. Horrible sex as she kept rushing me and couldn't pound. Plus she was not into any dfk, daty or anything else other than the CBJ and standing mish. Out in 30 minutes but it was worth getting it on with such a nice young looking hottie. Won't repeat but do want to see the other girls there. Anyone else been there?

She supposedly will be going to sunflower later but she doesn't know.[/QUOTE]"For some reason, she posted in the TS section. ". For some reason? Seriously? You think it was accidentally posted there? The reason (s) he posted there is (s) he is a TS. (S) he not only posted in the TS section, (s) he clearly stated in her ad, "I am a Transgender woman. " No "genetic woman" would ever do that!

You fucked a post-op ladyboy. Since you found her ad in the TS section, maybe you were looking for a TS. Whatever. To each his own, but this forum doesn't allow TS reviews, and what would make you say she is "definitely not a TS. ".

[QUOTE=LittleDickie;3746707]"For some reason, she posted in the TS section. ". For some reason? Seriously? You think it was accidentally posted there? The reason (s) he posted there is (s) he is a TS. (S) he not only posted in the TS section, (s) he clearly stated in her ad, "I am a Transgender woman. " No "genetic woman" would ever do that!

You fucked a post-op ladyboy. Since you found her ad in the TS section, maybe you were looking for a TS. Whatever. To each his own, but this forum doesn't allow TS reviews, and what would make you say she is "definitely not a TS. ".[/QUOTE]Trust me, I know post and pre-op trannies. Been to SE Asia over 20 times including Thailand. As to why "she" would post there, beats the fuck out of me but only one way for you to know for sure is go there yourself.

[QUOTE=Redneck1;3727907]Very good questions, JennaDean, especially for the "Like Beef Lolo" thread where more freedom of expression is supposed to be allowed. I've posted my responses below.

Personally, I enjoy having providers participate on the forum, especially intelligent ones like you. I think that much can be learned from the posts of providers, just like much can be learned from listening to providers in real life. However, it's apparently a very sensitive issue on this forum. Previously I briefly posted about providers whose forum contributions I liked, and named a few of them (including you), but my post was deleted without explanation. Poof, gone!

Mongers who don't like the posts of providers can simply refrain from reading them, or even place the providers on "ignore". It's hilarious how some men appear to be frightened of providers invading their "private" club (which really isn't private because anyone in the world with internet service can read the posts). "Eek, it's a mouse!" "Please, please, we're snowflakes who need our safe space". Indeed, it's reminiscent of little boys who place signs saying "No girls allowed!" outside their treehouse, LOL. One idea would be to have a separate section for provider posts, so it would be even easier for men who dislike them to avoid the emotional trauma of reading them (smile)..[/QUOTE]Totally agree with Redneck1 I would like the girls enjoy the session, if you just "don't give a shit and just want a nut", especially if you request certain action that they are unwilling to provide, you are on their blacklist.

[QUOTE=Honolulu69;3746829]Totally agree with Redneck1 I would like the girls enjoy the session, if you just "don't give a shit and just want a nut", especially if you request certain action that they are unwilling to provide, you are on their blacklist.[/QUOTE]Guys who think this way, "don't give a shit and just want a nut", TEHO, but personally I can't understand this mentality at all. If a guy brings this attitude to mongering, he's missing a tasty piece of the experience, IMO. When I was mongering I always wanted the provider to have a good time if possible, and have orgasms if possible. And to be honest, I didn't invest effort in her having a good time because I'm one nice guy. IMV my motivation was selfish, primarily self-serving. If the girl gets off, she's going to be warmer and sweeter to me. Plus when I left at the end of the session, I felt like a million bucks, not only because I'd had a satisfying fuck, but because my male ego had gotten a big boost in the knowledge I could assist this attractive woman to reach pleasurable orgasms. So, her having a good time was part of what made the pay 4 play experience enjoyable and worthwhile for me. Time and money well-spent. Not only excellent physical therapy but effective psychotherapy as well! LOL.

Anything new with honolulugirl? Thinking about hitting her up.