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[QUOTE=CruisingY;6443545]Can anyone explain the logic that some of these providers have. They won't give up $25 dollars but they'll give up $150 and make $0 dollars. Being stubborn doesn't pay the bills. They turn it in to a contest to see who can get their own way and declare themselves the winner.[/QUOTE]If you quoted me a price of $100 to do some general repairs, and I told you I would only pay $75, odds are, you would walk away. You would probably feel insulted too.
If I agree with their price then I pay it which has been pretty much most of the time. If I disagree then I counter, I don't haggle. If they don't like it I leave and I give zero fucks what they think.
[QUOTE=Walker333;6443769]I doubt there's any logic present. IMHO, it's stupidity + ego.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Baggio57;6443908]I don't blame ladies who are offended when someone tries to haggle with them. Their price is their price, if you think it's too high, find someone in your price range. They're not selling cars. Personally, I think haggling over price is a poor look for a guy, but that's just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Moejoo;6443607]A lot of girls are seriously offended when you try to haggle with them. Among other things they feel like guys that want to haggle over 25 dollars are lousy clients who may want to push other boundaries and treat them like crap. They do kind of win because they don't lower their value and there is another guy around the corner who will give them the 150.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;6444022]If I agree with their price then I pay it which has been pretty much most of the time. If I disagree then I counter, I don't haggle. If they don't like it I leave and I give zero fucks what they think.[/QUOTE]They are selling a commodity in the end. It does not really matter what they think it is worth, it is what someone is willing to pay. Contrary to popular opinion I don't think a lot of these girls have people lined up and knocking down the door. If they do, then they are pricing correctly. However, the ones spitting out outlandish numbers for average or worse looks, average or worse service, unsafe locations, etc. Are not going to make me look like some fool that just fell off a turnip truck. I guarantee its even easier for me to go to the next in line and get what I want at my price than them.
[QUOTE=GeneralObvious;6444011]If you quoted me a price of $100 to do some general repairs, and I told you I would only pay $75, odds are, you would walk away. You would probably feel insulted too.[/QUOTE]I agree with this too. If I can't pay someone's rate I just move on. I have enough hassle in my life without arguing with hookers over price.
Don't ever think you are special, or you have some special connection. You are just business at best. Getting the same as most everyone else.
This girl is mocking this guy and bragging to her friends about easy money from a "Tricc". The reference says it all. I've seen things like this before too. "I got all this money and didn't even have to touch his nasty d* LOL.
By all means always be kind and respectful always. I truly believe that, but don't let yourself become a fool.
[QUOTE=Bbd81;6444919]Don't ever think you are special, or you have some special connection. You are just business at best. Getting the same as most everyone else.
This girl is mocking this guy and bragging to her friends about easy money from a "Tricc". The reference says it all. I've seen things like this before too. "I got all this money and didn't even have to touch his nasty d* LOL.
By all means always be kind and respectful always. I truly believe that, but don't let yourself become a fool.[/QUOTE]The truest thing anyone has ever said in mongerland!
[QUOTE=Bbd81;6444919]Don't ever think you are special, or you have some special connection. You are just business at best. Getting the same as most everyone else.
This girl is mocking this guy and bragging to her friends about easy money from a "Tricc". The reference says it all. I've seen things like this before too. "I got all this money and didn't even have to touch his nasty d* LOL.
By all means always be kind and respectful always. I truly believe that, but don't let yourself become a fool.[/QUOTE]"I made her cum more than once, no way can somebody fake that".
[QUOTE=Moss734;6444964]"I made her cum more than once, no way can somebody fake that".[/QUOTE]Yea well I am really good looking, make them come multiple times, and they LOVE being submissive to me. And when I send them gifts like in that picture they love me and want to submit to me even more.
For all of you single mongers, today is one of the best days of the year to go out and have some fun. The married guys will be taking their wives, mothers, and in-laws out, so take full advantage of it. Have fun!
In the end the market decides. If a girl prices herself too high, she won't make money. She's worth what the market dictates, not an individual John.
Likewise, the market will dictate what kind of pussy you'll have access to at the price you're willing to pay. If the market says you're not paying enough, either you'll pay for, keep going down in quality until you get a taker, or exit the market.
In the end, everybody gets what they deserve, whether it's a homeless hooker or a blue balled monger.
[QUOTE=RubLuvr;6444754]They are selling a commodity in the end. It does not really matter what they think it is worth, it is what someone is willing to pay. Contrary to popular opinion I don't think a lot of these girls have people lined up and knocking down the door. If they do, then they are pricing correctly. However, the ones spitting out outlandish numbers for average or worse looks, average or worse service, unsafe locations, etc. Are not going to make me look like some fool that just fell off a turnip truck. I guarantee its even easier for me to go to the next in line and get what I want at my price than them.[/QUOTE]
Why are all these white knights defending these girls. They're not your delusional girl friends. They don't give a crap about you. It's all business and working out pricing is all part of business. Doesn't matter if it's a hooker or if you're at a garage sale haggling over a 5 dollar item. Everything is negotiable. Doesn't mean you're cheap. Some things are worth more or less in an individuals cycic. Bueaty is in the eyes of the beholder.
[QUOTE=RubLuvr;6444754]They are selling a commodity in the end. It does not really matter what they think it is worth, it is what someone is willing to pay. Contrary to popular opinion I don't think a lot of these girls have people lined up and knocking down the door. If they do, then they are pricing correctly. However, the ones spitting out outlandish numbers for average or worse looks, average or worse service, unsafe locations, etc. Are not going to make me look like some fool that just fell off a turnip truck. I guarantee its even easier for me to go to the next in line and get what I want at my price than them.[/QUOTE]Sometimes I make a counter offer. Sometimes they accept sometimes they don't. Two different examples. One girl was asking 200 for anal and I said I wanted regular sex and she came back 100. I really wasn't that smitten with her so I counter with "only have 60". She accepted and I had a very nice time for 60. Seen her after that too but I paid 100 for the other visits. Didn't want to push my luck plus she was worth 100.
Another time a girl was asking outlandish donations like 180 for qv 250 for hhr. Way out of my price range so I counter with 100. She or her handler spent the next 15 minutes blowing up my phone how I'm a broke ass ***** with a small dick etc. She used to go by Cherry and still advertises in the northern burbs. Funny thing is I see her asking for 80 for qv now. LOL. So if you think the price is too high don't be afraid to make a counter offer. You never know.
B.
[QUOTE=Bkmsw;6445790]Sometimes I make a counter offer. Sometimes they accept sometimes they don't. Two different examples. One girl was asking 200 for anal and I said I wanted regular sex and she came back 100. I really wasn't that smitten with her so I counter with "only have 60". She accepted and I had a very nice time for 60. Seen her after that too but I paid 100 for the other visits. Didn't want to push my luck plus she was worth 100.
Another time a girl was asking outlandish donations like 180 for qv 250 for hhr. Way out of my price range so I counter with 100. She or her handler spent the next 15 minutes blowing up my phone how I'm a broke ass ***** with a small dick etc. She used to go by Cherry and still advertises in the northern burbs. Funny thing is I see her asking for 80 for qv now. LOL. So if you think the price is too high don't be afraid to make a counter offer. You never know.
B.[/QUOTE]This is why I enjoy having multiple numbers to contact the girls from. Many times they will block guys who attempt any type of lowballing or haggling or other requests. If so I just contact them from a different number and start off on a different foot. One of the best ways to get a price change is of you're using uber to get her or getting a hotel room. If she smokes you can also offer and use that as a way to get the price down. If her incall and outcall rates are different, that is another route of she's low volume. A provider may only be doing incalls at the moment and outcalls later. I'll say I can check back later. Many times providers don't want to risk you moving on so they may accommodate you. Anytime a provider does car service at the same rate as her in and outcalls I talk her down. I would never pay a full rate or more than 100 for anytime of car action. You're basically seeing a streetwalker who posts online especially if she can't host or travel far.
All is this is intelligent and reasonable to do and is common sense.
[QUOTE=CruisingY;6445708]Why are all these white knights defending these girls. They're not your delusional girl friends. They don't give a crap about you. It's all business and working out pricing is all part of business. Doesn't matter if it's a hooker or if you're at a garage sale haggling over a 5 dollar item. Everything is negotiable. Doesn't mean you're cheap. Some things are worth more or less in an individuals cycic. Bueaty is in the eyes of the beholder.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bkmsw;6445790]Sometimes I make a counter offer. Sometimes they accept sometimes they don't. Two different examples. One girl was asking 200 for anal and I said I wanted regular sex and she came back 100. I really wasn't that smitten with her so I counter with "only have 60". She accepted and I had a very nice time for 60. Seen her after that too but I paid 100 for the other visits. Didn't want to push my luck plus she was worth 100.
Another time a girl was asking outlandish donations like 180 for qv 250 for hhr. Way out of my price range so I counter with 100. She or her handler spent the next 15 minutes blowing up my phone how I'm a broke ass ***** with a small dick etc. She used to go by Cherry and still advertises in the northern burbs. Funny thing is I see her asking for 80 for qv now. LOL. So if you think the price is too high don't be afraid to make a counter offer. You never know.
B.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6446316]This is why I enjoy having multiple numbers to contact the girls from. Many times they will block guys who attempt any type of lowballing or haggling or other requests. If so I just contact them from a different number and start off on a different foot. One of the best ways to get a price change is of you're using uber to get her or getting a hotel room. If she smokes you can also offer and use that as a way to get the price down. If her incall and outcall rates are different, that is another route of she's low volume. A provider may only be doing incalls at the moment and outcalls later. I'll say I can check back later. Many times providers don't want to risk you moving on so they may accommodate you. Anytime a provider does car service at the same rate as her in and outcalls I talk her down. I would never pay a full rate or more than 100 for anytime of car action. You're basically seeing a streetwalker who posts online especially if she can't host or travel far.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bbd81;6444919]Don't ever think you are special, or you have some special connection. You are just business at best. Getting the same as most everyone else.
This girl is mocking this guy and bragging to her friends about easy money from a "Tricc". The reference says it all. I've seen things like this before too. "I got all this money and didn't even have to touch his nasty d* LOL.
By all means always be kind and respectful always. I truly believe that, but don't let yourself become a fool.[/QUOTE]A great lesson to remember.
[QUOTE=Bbd81;6444919]Don't ever think you are special, or you have some special connection. You are just business at best. Getting the same as most everyone else.
This girl is mocking this guy and bragging to her friends about easy money from a "Tricc". The reference says it all. I've seen things like this before too. "I got all this money and didn't even have to touch his nasty d* LOL.
By all means always be kind and respectful always. I truly believe that, but don't let yourself become a fool.[/QUOTE][IMG]https://ibb.co/0KLJkPQ[/IMG]
I really don't know where to put this question, where can I found Indian girls, any place? Like PD or RL.
[QUOTE=TheHunterOfHos;6453890][IMG]https://ibb.co/0KLJkPQ[/IMG][/QUOTE]This reminds me of the place on 26th that got busted at least twice, newspaper article said neighbors found it odd men were showing up to the door with flowers and candy.
[QUOTE=Clasy;6466156]I really don't know where to put this question, where can I found Indian girls, any place? Like PD or RL.[/QUOTE]Last time this came up there was like one girl someone named and that was about it. She'll probably pop up in a search but Chicago is really rare for Indian providers. Go to Canada for that.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6466819]Last time this came up there was like one girl someone named and that was about it. She'll probably pop up in a search but Chicago is really rare for Indian providers. Go to Canada for that.[/QUOTE]I've had luck on SA but even then they are hard to land. Montreal is the place to go for Indian.
[QUOTE=Clasy;6466156]I really don't know where to put this question, where can I found Indian girls, any place? Like PD or RL.[/QUOTE]The couple of times I visited London, was the only time I've seen a plethora of Indian Esvorts.
[QUOTE=Clasy;6466156]I really don't know where to put this question, where can I found Indian girls, any place? Like PD or RL.[/QUOTE]There was an Indian girl who got busted several years back. She had started working in college and continued even after she got her law degree and was practicing at a big firm. I remember seeing her ads and then seeing her picture when she got busted. Stood out to me because there are so few providers.
Edit: did a quick search and found a lot of stories
https://www.businessinsider.com/this-25-year-old-illinois-lawyer-just-copped-to-prostitution-2012-6
[QUOTE=HappyGardener;6467791]There was an Indian girl who got busted several years back. She had started working in college and continued even after she got her law degree and was practicing at a big firm. I remember seeing her ads and then seeing her picture when she got busted. Stood out to me because there are so few providers.
Edit: did a quick search and found a lot of stories
https://www.businessinsider.com/this-25-year-old-illinois-lawyer-just-copped-to-prostitution-2012-6[/QUOTE]How stupid is that $100, would they arrest her if the man took her to a nice dinner worth $300 then they had sex and he gave her $100 for cab fare home.
[QUOTE=OldSchoolGuy73;6468133]How stupid is that $100, would they arrest her if the man took her to a nice dinner worth $300 then they had sex and he gave her $100 for cab fare home.[/QUOTE]And also, I can't believe, even in 2012 money, that a 25 year old good looking Indian girl only charged $100 for sex in Chicago. She could have gotten $500 an hour, even back then because of how rare of a commodity she is.
For a lawyer, she must not have been very bright.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6468325]And also, I can't believe, even in 2012 money, that a 25 year old good looking Indian girl only charged $100 for sex in Chicago. She could have gotten $500 an hour, even back then because of how rare of a commodity she is.
For a lawyer, she must not have been very bright.[/QUOTE]More details, seems like a UTR girl with regulars.
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/reema-bajaj-faces-disciplinary-board-2013-6[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jayp80;6468472]More details, seems like a UTR girl with regulars.
[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/reema-bajaj-faces-disciplinary-board-2013-6[/URL][/QUOTE]FFS, who was the "victim" of her crimes?
[QUOTE=SouthpawTom;6468596]FFS, who was the "victim" of her crimes?[/QUOTE]Me for not seeing that ad.
[QUOTE=Jayp80;6468643]Me for not seeing that ad.[/QUOTE]I remember the ad because it was so unusual to see an Indian provider. I just wasn't going to drive all the way from the North Side to Sycamore.
I wonder what kind of evidence they had for her to plead guilty. She should have fought it.
I'm surprised some of the apartments that have expanded beyond Chinese providers have not sought out Indian providers. I would assume the same moves to get women from other North American cities to Chicago could work for Indian women. And I would assume that the visa situations that get women from China to the US could be similar if not easier given the current political relations with China.
[QUOTE=DWaits;6471121]I wonder what kind of evidence they had for her to plead guilty. She should have fought it.
I'm surprised some of the apartments that have expanded beyond Chinese providers have not sought out Indian providers. I would assume the same moves to get women from other North American cities to Chicago could work for Indian women. And I would assume that the visa situations that get women from China to the US could be similar if not easier given the current political relations with China.[/QUOTE]It was an unrelated investigation, she was communicating with a law school classmate who got caught in a child porn or child molestation case. They got his emails / texts in them she admitted what she was doing and then she got investigated.
[QUOTE=HappyGardener;6469387]I remember the ad because it was so unusual to see an Indian provider. I just wasn't going to drive all the way from the North Side to Sycamore.[/QUOTE]I vaguely remember the ad as well. More so the odd UTR component than the fact that she was Indian. Speaking of odd career / UTR junkstapositions, wasn't there a hot looking female law officer that was around for a bit as well?
I've been in this hobby since 2010. And I'm in my early 30's now. Have seen women all over the country and internationally. The one thing that's getting to me now is the increase in rates providers are now charging their clients. The only individual that has kept the same rates is Carol with her Brazilian girls. Seeing women who use to be at 4. Now charging 8 and up is ridiculous. And that opened the game up for the newer providers who are charging the same amount for limited services. And I've noticed the market is getting flooded with this. Let's not forget about deposit requirements now. When I see an * link in anyone's profile I stay away. These women are making good money without taking on the risk, so why would they want to potentially catch something get arrested or physically assaulted? I have seen women going from 7. To 1 k then back to 7. Lily for example used to be at 5 now at 8. Lara del ray began charging 1 k from 7. These ladies in particular do provide great services though. But they're are plenty more and increasing providers who are near those rates but either run off with your money or provide lackluster services. Done ranting.
I was talking to a friend who is in the know and claims that there are guys enticing refugees into free meals, showers, etc and then offering a little extra once they're at a hotel / house. He swears it's happened a few times (both guys and girls) and that uncle doesn't pay attention because they're already overworked (plus too many people coming and going to help them). I asked about where you would find them though and was straight up told "at the stations," since they're basically living in the lobby. Seems crazy to me. But also not implausible.
He also mentioned a neighbor who went and picked up 4 guys to build him a garage for next to nothing. So use that information however you'd like. Please do tell me if you think it's actually true.
[QUOTE=SamDoherty;6496655]I was talking to a friend who is in the know and claims that there are guys enticing refugees into free meals, showers, etc and then offering a little extra once they're at a hotel / house. He swears it's happened a few times (both guys and girls) and that uncle doesn't pay attention because they're already overworked (plus too many people coming and going to help them). I asked about where you would find them though and was straight up told "at the stations," since they're basically living in the lobby. Seems crazy to me. But also not implausible.
He also mentioned a neighbor who went and picked up 4 guys to build him a garage for next to nothing. So use that information however you'd like. Please do tell me if you think it's actually true.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen that here in chicago yet, but there was a bunch of hot Syrian refugees sex workers when I was in Paris last year. Usually Arab providers are really hard to find so that was an absolute goldmine.
Schaumburg right off the exit to Higgins Rd there is a group of folks. Their sign says they are refugees. One of the lady's, not hot by any means but attractive to me asked me for money. I said I did not have the cash, then she asked if I could "lend" her some food and I said I could not. There are a couple men in her group at that exit so I did not pursue because I don't need the trouble. They have been there for a few months now and I have seen the police questioning them a bunch of times. They come right up to your window and will stand there until you say yes or no.
[QUOTE=SamDoherty;6496655]I was talking to a friend who is in the know and claims that there are guys enticing refugees into free meals, showers, etc and then offering a little extra once they're at a hotel / house. He swears it's happened a few times (both guys and girls) and that uncle doesn't pay attention because they're already overworked (plus too many people coming and going to help them). I asked about where you would find them though and was straight up told "at the stations," since they're basically living in the lobby. Seems crazy to me. But also not implausible.
He also mentioned a neighbor who went and picked up 4 guys to build him a garage for next to nothing. So use that information however you'd like. Please do tell me if you think it's actually true.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6497044]I haven't seen that here in chicago yet, but there was a bunch of hot Syrian refugees sex workers when I was in Paris last year. Usually Arab providers are really hard to find so that was an absolute goldmine.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6497044]I haven't seen that here in chicago yet, but there was a bunch of hot Syrian refugees sex workers when I was in Paris last year. Usually Arab providers are really hard to find so that was an absolute goldmine.[/QUOTE]I see them on the Harlem exit of I55 and the Home Depot in Countryside. Always tempted to try but not sure if they are legit or lazy folks wanting free money.
Erica was my atf and she had some problems with the law. It's been a few years but I was wondering if anybody out there has seen her if so, would you please send me a pm So I can get a hold of her and see if she's still working. Little petite blonde in her late 40's nice big bold hands, cute little face.
[QUOTE=JJuanht;6497119]I see them on the Harlem exit of I55 and the Home Depot in Countryside. Always tempted to try but not sure if they are legit or lazy folks wanting free money.[/QUOTE]I rarely see them near the big airport here by me, however lately I have seen them at the chicago border at many locations. Their signs are usually lengthy and I have seen mostly women. And some men on phones. My experience has been if one doesn't want to engage with them then don't wave or even engage in eye contact. They will not go away and while one is waiting for the light to change it will indeed be uncomfortable. Now that all said I am not being a cold a**hole about this as when I lived downtown I did a lot of what now I refer to as "sucker" work. Donating, helping the homeless, etc, etc. So I did my quote un quote of freebie help out work. Across the board and these people imo are no exception. People on the street anywhere around these parts are out there because they want to be! Period end of story. There is free food, shelter, clothing places everywhere as I helped fund many! Because the weather is so nice street people stay on the street! Now doing work with haymarket as well as pacific garden mission. These places have rules and regulations that clients must adhere to or they are back on the street. Some of these are no fighting, no drinking, no drugging, no stealing as well as they must listen to the priest or father even if they are not religious they must give respect to them and also there is a time on the street and then a time they must be back in their bunk. People on the street don't want to adhere to these rules! At least when it's 90 degrees outside! All imo so thanks for at least viewing my latest rant and forgive me as I am very old! Stosh.
Making my way to your fair city a few times for work over the next several months and am looking at some of the different cuddle website options in the metro area. Anyone had any luck with usernames / details they'd be willing to share via PM? Didn't see much via search.
I can return the favor with AZ, NC, GA, PA, DC, OR, & MO.
Have a great day.
[QUOTE=SamDoherty;6496655]I was talking to a friend who is in the know and claims that there are guys enticing refugees into free meals, showers, etc and then offering a little extra once they're at a hotel / house. He swears it's happened a few times (both guys and girls) and that uncle doesn't pay attention because they're already overworked (plus too many people coming and going to help them). I asked about where you would find them though and was straight up told "at the stations," since they're basically living in the lobby. Seems crazy to me. But also not implausible.
He also mentioned a neighbor who went and picked up 4 guys to build him a garage for next to nothing. So use that information however you'd like. Please do tell me if you think it's actually true.[/QUOTE]I don't know about all that but I do know there are refugees sleeping at police stations here in Chicago.