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[QUOTE=MoneyT;6256958]I came across this on Twitter a bit ago. Remember this location.[/QUOTE]A dude was beaten to death at that location back in September. The place is bad fucking news not to mention in a very nice & safe residential area, very close to home. Avoid at all costs.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6259237]This is why I don't do high end girls or high priced girls because it's still hit or miss but at that price point her environment should be cleaner. The entitlement reeks from your description of her here. Happy hunting.
And P.S. Some guys send deposits to women like this and never even meet them. At least you got a first hand look. Experiences like this make me more selective. The longer I'm in the hobby, the quicker I am to decline.[/QUOTE]LOL just because a girl asks for a lot of money doesn't make her a high end girl. She's just a girl who asks for a lot of money.
Whoever this girl is, she seems to have no presence outside of this ad. That's not the sign of a true high end escort. And it's generally a big red flag.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6259543]LOL just because a girl asks for a lot of money doesn't make her a high end girl. She's just a girl who asks for a lot of money.
Whoever this girl is, she seems to have no presence outside of this ad. That's not the sign of a true high end escort. And it's generally a big red flag.[/QUOTE]
LOL If you finished reading I said the words OR high priced girls right after high end. All high end girls aren't high priced either. High end usually is due to demand and popularity. You'll find more popular and in demand escorts on Eros compared to most sites. But even with high end girls YMMV. For some as many great reviews as they have they will have bad days, may not follow thru on a deposit, double book, ghost, etc. Plenty of examples on here of mongers having bad experiences with legit providers.
[QUOTE=MoneyT;6256958]I came across this on Twitter a bit ago. Remember this location.[/QUOTE]The Google Maps street view shows a big sign out front "We Support Our Police" LOL can't make this shit up!
Thanks for the heads up.
But:
[QUOTE=BallsMcgeeSr;6258720][URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/3039373.htm[/URL]
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at an asking rate of $500/ hr.
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Based on her photos, I didn't have high hopes going into it,
[/QUOTE]Am I the only one that's confused?
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6259595]LOL If you finished reading I said the words OR high priced girls right after high end. All high end girls aren't high priced either. High end usually is due to demand and popularity. You'll find more popular and in demand escorts on Eros compared to most sites. But even with high end girls YMMV. For some as many great reviews as they have they will have bad days, may not follow thru on a deposit, double book, ghost, etc. Plenty of examples on here of mongers having bad experiences with legit providers.[/QUOTE]I get what you're saying and I wasnt laughing AT you. But I don't even think of her as a high priced girl. Usually women on that end of the pond are a professional operation. They have a website, professional photos, a social media presence. They have a brand and that's what you're paying for.
A perfect example is that fat ugly woman on the BBFS thread who said "bare starts at $600". Do you think of her as a high end girl? Do you even think of her as a high priced girl? No, she's just crazy LOL.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6261216]I get what you're saying and I wasnt laughing AT you. But I don't even think of her as a high priced girl. Usually women on that end of the pond are a professional operation. They have a website, professional photos, a social media presence. They have a brand and that's what you're paying for.
A perfect example is that fat ugly woman on the BBFS thread who said "bare starts at $600". Do you think of her as a high end girl? Do you even think of her as a high priced girl? No, she's just crazy LOL.[/QUOTE]On the high priced girl thread it seemed the common consensus was girls charging 300 or more an hour. The girl offering BBFS for 600 charges much less than that. She's probably around 200 an hour. It's just that if you want bare expect to pay out the ass. High priced girls would be charging much more since you 600 is just the base rate. Any girl would be high priced then if you consider add ons I guess but my presumption was that it was based on regular rate. But to add to what I was saying before, these high end girls may be considered such also along with what you said with social media presence is her location, menu, lack of availability and hospitality. A lot of that comes with our perception. It's really on us who we consider that, not up to these girls.
Sorry the ad is taken down. But don't respond to a girl on listcrawler who is on snap as well by jellybn23 or any variation. She's just trying to get you to buy vids. Even agreed for an incall and when I got there (only 5 minutes from me thank god) she says I need to cash ap 40 first before room number. I said no and beat feet. I hope you mongers aren't using these apps to pay girls or do deposits.
[QUOTE=FaceGlazer2018;6287327]Sorry the ad is taken down. But don't respond to a girl on listcrawler who is on snap as well by jellybn23 or any variation. She's just trying to get you to buy vids. Even agreed for an incall and when I got there (only 5 minutes from me thank god) she says I need to cash ap 40 first before room number. I said no and beat feet. I hope you mongers aren't using these apps to pay girls or do deposits.[/QUOTE]From my many encounters, the vast majority of listcrawler ads require deposit, even if I was upfront in not paying deposits. They lure you into a lengthy dialog then require it at the last minute. Obviously fakes. But I wonder if maybe just a tiny few of them are actually real and afraid of being tricked.
I see a real business opportunity here for some 3rd party neutral agent to be the middle person. Someone who will hold the deposit, and only send through once the provider is in-person confirmed, else it is returned. For a small fee most of us will be willing to take the risk on. It will also eliminate almost all fakes.
What to do with no-show? Not sure.
[QUOTE=Proton456;6288211]From my many encounters, the vast majority of listcrawler ads require deposit, even if I was upfront in not paying deposits. They lure you into a lengthy dialog then require it at the last minute. Obviously fakes. But I wonder if maybe just a tiny few of them are actually real and afraid of being tricked.
I see a real business opportunity here for some 3rd party neutral agent to be the middle person. Someone who will hold the deposit, and only send through once the provider is in-person confirmed, else it is returned. For a small fee most of us will be willing to take the risk on. It will also eliminate almost all fakes.
What to do with no-show? Not sure.[/QUOTE]The vast majority of listcrawler ads are *obvious* scams.
Just say NO to deposits.
[QUOTE=Proton456;6288211]From my many encounters, the vast majority of listcrawler ads require deposit, even if I was upfront in not paying deposits. They lure you into a lengthy dialog then require it at the last minute. Obviously fakes. But I wonder if maybe just a tiny few of them are actually real and afraid of being tricked.
I see a real business opportunity here for some 3rd party neutral agent to be the middle person. Someone who will hold the deposit, and only send through once the provider is in-person confirmed, else it is returned. For a small fee most of us will be willing to take the risk on. It will also eliminate almost all fakes.
What to do with no-show? Not sure.[/QUOTE]Let's not normalize sending deposits. Just move on to some one else. Some of you would send your first born and the deed to your home if these women asked. They only reason they ask for deposits because you all send them.
[QUOTE=Proton456;6288211]From my many encounters, the vast majority of listcrawler ads require deposit, even if I was upfront in not paying deposits. They lure you into a lengthy dialog then require it at the last minute. Obviously fakes. But I wonder if maybe just a tiny few of them are actually real and afraid of being tricked.
I see a real business opportunity here for some 3rd party neutral agent to be the middle person. Someone who will hold the deposit, and only send through once the provider is in-person confirmed, else it is returned. For a small fee most of us will be willing to take the risk on. It will also eliminate almost all fakes.
What to do with no-show? Not sure.[/QUOTE]And that wonder if a "tiny few" are real is why you guys keep discussing deposits smh.
[QUOTE=Fdottt;6291570]And that wonder if a "tiny few" are real is why you guys keep discussing deposits smh.[/QUOTE]Exactly you pay deposit you give up all control to a complete stranger that you don't know but hope that she doesn't scam you and actually shows up. I 've had Girls ask for deposit even with the incall I'm like yeah no thanks.
[QUOTE=FaceGlazer2018;6287327]Sorry the ad is taken down. But don't respond to a girl on listcrawler who is on snap as well by jellybn23 or any variation. She's just trying to get you to buy vids. Even agreed for an incall and when I got there (only 5 minutes from me thank god) she says I need to cash ap 40 first before room number. I said no and beat feet. I hope you mongers aren't using these apps to pay girls or do deposits.[/QUOTE]But even many seasoned upscale escorts are now requiring deposits for booking.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;6292167]But even many seasoned upscale escorts are now requiring deposits for booking.[/QUOTE]Because mongers have normalized it. Regulars shouldn't be paying them so it's most likely desperate new clients.
I reached out to her cause I had already seen her before and the experience wasn't bad and since I saw she was doing doubles with Karolina (which is pregnant BTW LOL), I decided to give them a shot. Long story short, right when we're about to start playing, Reina goes in the bathroom and starts arguing with someone on the phone, comes out wiping a pin prick on her arm all crazy, mumbling and yelling at Karolina (visibly surprised) telling her to go in the bathroom and then she started yelling for "DJ" (the pimp) which she said was staying next door. I immediately got dressed and left. Got scammed with 4 bills but hey, this is the name of the game, can't win them al!
Stay safe gents.
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Beware with this one. Definite catfish. She's resurfaced with new pics. Alot of the women in the pics look different. When I communicated prior she sent me a video with a lady that looked nothing like any of the women in these pics. During communicated she had a very wide open menu which leads to further suspicion. If you like linebacker shaped women give it a try buy I think it could be worse. I posted in ripoff before about her.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/109539065[/URL]
Just a friendly warning: [URL]https://tryst.link/massage/nicoleruby[/URL].
Everything sounded good; following her posts on social media and other reviews. Sent requested deposit via an app and then ghosted.
Great communication right up to the point of "What room number?" Then nothing but crickets; lesson learned. No matter how many positive reviews; NO deposit. I was looking forward to the meeting; previous reviews mentioned nothing about any scams. I guess there is a sucker born every minute and I just happened to be the one.
[QUOTE=Mrlows;6296862]I reached out to her cause I had already seen her before and the experience wasn't bad and since I saw she was doing doubles with Karolina (which is pregnant BTW LOL), I decided to give them a shot. Long story short, right when we're about to start playing, Reina goes in the bathroom and starts arguing with someone on the phone, comes out wiping a pin prick on her arm all crazy, mumbling and yelling at Karolina (visibly surprised) telling her to go in the bathroom and then she started yelling for "DJ" (the pimp) which she said was staying next door. I immediately got dressed and left. Got scammed with 4 bills but hey, this is the name of the game, can't win them al!
Stay safe gents.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3312631438[/URL][/QUOTE]Is there an image of Karolina. Is she the one with the Polish accent?
[QUOTE=Dbeyes;6306979]Just a friendly warning: [URL]https://tryst.link/massage/nicoleruby[/URL].
Everything sounded good; following her posts on social media and other reviews. Sent requested deposit via an app and then ghosted.
Great communication right up to the point of "What room number?" Then nothing but crickets; lesson learned. No matter how many positive reviews; NO deposit. I was looking forward to the meeting; previous reviews mentioned nothing about any scams. I guess there is a sucker born every minute and I just happened to be the one.[/QUOTE]Too bad. I believe even though most of the guys profess no deposits no how at anytime many including me BTW have been suckered in by the illusion of something or someone. For me it was a js in wheeling. I knew about js's a long time, however I still walked in! Live and learn. And of course thank you for posting this. Doubtful the person will see this. I can only hope that she, it or the bot does. Stosh.
Is RL safe to go now again? With the news bust and their change of management to none Asians, everything seems weird. Considering, they have an ig / tik tok account, I don't know. I feel it's a honey pot for LEO. Set the record straight, am I being paranoid?
Recent review on Ter of deposit ghost scam. What's of concern is it involves a provider on Tryst with a lot of otherwise positive reviews. She's been in our area for awhile.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/kelsi-stylez[/URL]
Her ter reviews are under Phoenix / Scottsdale.
Fwiw I don't do deposits.
[QUOTE=Mrlows;6296862]I reached out to her cause I had already seen her before and the experience wasn't bad and since I saw she was doing doubles with Karolina (which is pregnant BTW LOL), I decided to give them a shot. Long story short, right when we're about to start playing, Reina goes in the bathroom and starts arguing with someone on the phone, comes out wiping a pin prick on her arm all crazy, mumbling and yelling at Karolina (visibly surprised) telling her to go in the bathroom and then she started yelling for "DJ" (the pimp) which she said was staying next door. I immediately got dressed and left. Got scammed with 4 bills but hey, this is the name of the game, can't win them al!
Stay safe gents.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/3312631438[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, she's been tweaking a bit more often. She says she's going to rehab but I don't think she is serious about it. She's just like she used to and I try to avoid her. Especially since she has started to ask for rides.
Buyer beware.
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[QUOTE=MickSwagger;6365296]Buyer beware.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8105433554/1[/URL][/QUOTE]For future reference.
https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/8105433554/1
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Asks for a 6 digit code after contacting, don't bother and above all else don't send them that code. Very old scam.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6367743[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/119488642[/URL]
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Asks for a 6 digit code after contacting, don't bother and above all else don't send them that code. Very old scam.[/QUOTE]What is the story with the code?
[QUOTE=Walker333;6367965]What is the story with the code?[/QUOTE]It's a way some services use to verify who you are and for them to start billing thru your credit card or mobile phone provider.
I don't even know how to start this report but basically they run one of those set ups where they lure you for an amount of of money and they end up giving you little to no services and if you want more it's and upsell for ridiculous amounts of money.
Honestly I can't believe I fell for this crap and I don't even want to say how much I spent for basically a hand job with a few licks and didn't even get to finish.
Here is the link:
[URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/2243914615[/URL]
[QUOTE=TwilightCircus;6371388]I don't even know how to start this report but basically they run one of those set ups where they lure you for an amount of of money and they end up giving you little to no services and if you want more it's and upsell for ridiculous amounts of money.
Honestly I can't believe I fell for this crap and I don't even want to say how much I spent for basically a hand job with a few licks and didn't even get to finish.
Here is the link:
[URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/2243914615[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like a jack shack. Based on previous ads I'm going to say minimum the damage was 300-400. I thought about seeing them on outcall but they started saying no AA. I'm not AA but that's a red flag to me for certain reasons.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6371985]Sounds like a jack shack. Based on previous ads I'm going to say minimum the damage was 300-400. I thought about seeing them on outcall but they started saying no AA. I'm not AA but that's a red flag to me for certain reasons.[/QUOTE]No AA but the video is of her getting rawdogged by a giant AA cock LOL.
Talk about mixed messages!
Shame on me. She asked for a deposit. Then excuse after excuse. It was almost worth the price of admission for the entertainment value of her stories. She even offers refunds. Well says she does. After waiting the 30 days after you make the request then has an excuse for that and "promises" she will make this next appointment. Damn got me again. Rinse and repeat.
A pathological lair!
Uses Tryst [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/amber-lynn-53[/URL] and List [URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/122275805[/URL] and at least (2) different numbers- 331-472-0XXX and 630-286-9XXX.
Hope my loss is your lesson learned.
Be safe.
Just got back home after being ripped of in Schiller Park. This girl who was on SB with the name of Futureexwife used the old boyfriend trick come into the room after money given. Yes, I know never pay upfront. Live and learn. I have reported her to SB. She is staying at the Motel 6 on Lawrence Avenue. Was in room 126 at the time.
[QUOTE=HockeyGuy;6384062]Just got back home after being ripped of in Schiller Park. This girl who was on SB with the name of Futureexwife used the old boyfriend trick come into the room after money given. Yes, I know never pay upfront. Live and learn. I have reported her to SB. She is staying at the Motel 6 on Lawrence Avenue. Was in room 126 at the time.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that. I know I've seen that profile. I had someone from SB this morning tell me we can discuss meeting after I send her $40 because she's been burned before and needed to build up trust. Sure, ok.
Then, even better, later had a cute ebony lady tell me she wanted $2 k. Per meet. I mean, I'm pretty sure I couldn't drop $2 k on anyone no matter how open the menu was.
[QUOTE=HockeyGuy;6384062]Just got back home after being ripped of in Schiller Park. This girl who was on SB with the name of Futureexwife used the old boyfriend trick come into the room after money given. Yes, I know never pay upfront. Live and learn. I have reported her to SB. She is staying at the Motel 6 on Lawrence Avenue. Was in room 126 at the time.[/QUOTE]Share her link & other info, we will not stand for that bs.
[QUOTE=RichL1234;6384120]Share her link & other info, we will not stand for that bs.[/QUOTE]I do not have a link but here are her pictures.
Also her girlfriend is on SB now and here is her link. She is saying Shiller Park too and I recognized the picture. Her screen name is Layla2R_SB.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6ccf6236446b046f[/URL]
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6371985]I'm not AA but that's a red flag to me for certain reasons.[/QUOTE]Why is this red flag?
[QUOTE=HockeyGuy;6384146]I do not have a link but here are her pictures.
Also her girlfriend is on SB now and here is her link. She is saying Shiller Park too and I recognized the picture. Her screen name is Layla2R_SB.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/6ccf6236446b046f[/URL][/QUOTE]Fellas has most know I am right in the area. Going to look out for these two as given there are a few sketchier notels further south on river kind of wonder why they picked this place. More of a low end of course alternate airport stay. Thanks hockey as I know you as well as the others that chimed in. Again these f**kin c*nts need to see look we are finding out about your bs so make it easier on yourselves. Uncross your f**kin legs open your f**in mouthes, shut the f**k up and let us do our thing. I have the money to burn, however I would still feel terrible as I have when blue balled as well as out the spendable cash. Thanks again, all. Be safe and I intend on copying these pix and putting them in my phone as well. Oldman stosh. Getting older, still works though.
[QUOTE=MickSwagger;6384712]Why is this red flag?[/QUOTE]I don't know what he'll say, but it's a red flag for me too. It usually means they have pimps and the pimps put that in the ad to keep other pimps from trying to make an appointment and recruit the girl.
Another reason is girls who scam believe that AA guys are less likely to stand for a scam and more likely to react aggressively, even to a "boyfriend scam. " In other words they see white guys as easier marks.
Both scenarios are bad news. So I have a "no girls with a 'no AA policy' policy" LOL.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6385232]I don't know what he'll say, but it's a red flag for me too. It usually means they have pimps and the pimps put that in the ad to keep other pimps from trying to make an appointment and recruit the girl.
Another reason is girls who scam believe that AA guys are less likely to stand for a scam and more likely to react aggressively, even to a "boyfriend scam. " In other words they see white guys as easier marks.
Both scenarios are bad news. So I have a "no girls with a 'no AA policy' policy" LOL.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, I see it as they can't be LEO because it would be racial.