EMP (European Massage Parlor) Reports

Yeah, two words of advice. First off, always assume that the girls can read what you've posted. I'm usually a cautious guy but I've gotten burned by this once before. Funny thing is, I kind of assumed that they DID read reviews of themselves, but I was a dumb ass and posted some way to specific info and got chewed out for it. To be fair, I felt bad about it. I genuinely didn't want her to get in trouble. Thankfully I've been more circumspect since then, took the review down and still see her now and again so I assume its been forgiven, but remember to be careful. Don't post anything too specific. That's what PM's are for.

Second, always keep a burner phone or even two. Sometimes providers get jumpy. Sometimes we all make a faux pas. Sometimes shit just happens. It never hurts to have a back up phone just in case you want a second shot with a provider. Model and plan don't matter much, just pay in cash and register with a fake name at a library computer somewhere. I usually give a fake address several towns or even counties away, but I also travel more than normal, so I've hooked up with chicks from Milwaukee to Peoria. It's just common sense to use a burner phone, for your own safety. Never know who or what you are meeting. Obviously massage places are usually a safer bet than BP ads, let alone SWs, but you never known when there will be a police bust or work related drama.

Incidentally, that's why I try to forge good relationships with my regular providers. It spares us both the drama. They know I'm not some dangerous creep, and I know what to expect when I make an appointment.

If the woman is a mature adult she understands that a review may get posted about her or the spa. I have had many girls mention reviews in a session and I always tell them to stop and continue the massage so there is no discussion or debate. The issue gets intensified because of all the mongers who encourage review site discussions so they can get free service. I don't want any of the girls to get into trouble but if they do its their own fault for being careless.

[QUOTE=Viriato;2973177]Yeah, two words of advice. First off, always assume that the girls can read what you've posted. I'm usually a cautious guy but I've gotten burned by this once before. Funny thing is, I kind of assumed that they DID read reviews of themselves, but I was a dumb ass and posted some way to specific info and got chewed out for it. To be fair, I felt bad about it. I genuinely didn't want her to get in trouble. Thankfully I've been more circumspect since then, took the review down and still see her now and again so I assume its been forgiven, but remember to be careful. Don't post anything too specific. That's what PM's are for.

Second, always keep a burner phone or even two. Sometimes providers get jumpy. Sometimes we all make a faux pas. Sometimes shit just happens. It never hurts to have a back up phone just in case you want a second shot with a provider. Model and plan don't matter much, just pay in cash and register with a fake name at a library computer somewhere. I usually give a fake address several towns or even counties away, but I also travel more than normal, so I've hooked up with chicks from Milwaukee to Peoria. It's just common sense to use a burner phone, for your own safety. Never know who or what you are meeting. Obviously massage places are usually a safer bet than BP ads, let alone SWs, but you never known when there will be a police bust or work related drama.

Incidentally, that's why I try to forge good relationships with my regular providers. It spares us both the drama. They know I'm not some dangerous creep, and I know what to expect when I make an appointment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2973144]About 2 weeks ago I found out the hard way that if a girl can read English then she is probably reading these reports. I learned that if you are going to give your cell phone number to AMP girls, it better be a Monger phone and not your regular phone. I will be going to Wal-Mart this week and picking up a Monger phone. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Or if you have a smartphone, set up a Google Voice number under a secondary email account. The only problem is if you have two different GV numbers. They changed it so that you can't authorize the same phone to be attached to two different GV numbers -- and you have to change the authorization from a desktop, not your smartphone.

Another variation is to use two Google numbers (like I have) but also a second sim card. I got one for Europe. Saved a ton of money.

Anyway, you can still have two google accounts on your android smartphone. So all calls are recorded anyway. The sim card becomes your "instant" burner phone. And the second GV account becomes your "voicemail".

Now, that said, if your friend is Chinese, WeChat is the best choice by far. And it does not leave the paper trail that Google leaves. Bob.

[QUOTE=Garbonzo;2973510]Or if you have a smartphone, set up a Google Voice number under a secondary email account. The only problem is if you have two different GV numbers. They changed it so that you can't authorize the same phone to be attached to two different GV numbers -- and you have to change the authorization from a desktop, not your smartphone.[/QUOTE]

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Second, always keep a burner phone or even two. Sometimes providers get jumpy. Sometimes we all make a faux pas. Sometimes shit just happens. It never hurts to have a back up phone just in case you want a second shot with a provider. Model and plan don't matter much, just pay in cash and register with a fake name at a library computer somewhere. I usually give a fake address several towns or even counties away, but I also travel more than normal, so I've hooked up with chicks from Milwaukee to Peoria. It's just common sense to use a burner phone, for your own safety.
[/QUOTE]I've registered using either John Paxson (fuck him) at 1901 W Madison St or Don Zimmer at 1060 W Addison St in Chicago.

Who knew they like Thai girls or Latinas with magnificently built asses?

[QUOTE=CallMeSlappy;2974044]I've registered using either John Paxson (fuck him) at 1901 W Madison St or Don Zimmer at 1060 W Addison St in Chicago.

Who knew they like Thai girls or Latinas with magnificently built asses?[/QUOTE]Lee elia if some of you older gentlemen mongers remember him and his rant! "if those f'in 3 k mongers would go out and get a job". "but 47th and cicero is their f'in playground". "the rest of the world is out workin' but these f'in SW fans are out looking for action".

[QUOTE=Viriato;2973177]

Incidentally, that's why I try to forge good relationships with my regular providers. It spares us both the drama. They know I'm not some dangerous creep, and I know what to expect when I make an appointment.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 1000 percent.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;2974072]Lee elia if some of you older gentlemen mongers remember him and his rant! "if those f'in 3 k mongers would go out and get a job". "but 47th and cicero is their f'in playground". "the rest of the world is out workin' but these f'in SW fans are out looking for action".[/QUOTE]Bar none the best rant by a Chicago manager / coach ever.

"Kiss my ass and lick my balls right downtown and PRINT IT!"

For your listening pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0CDtEz_Bo

[QUOTE=CallMeSlappy;2974430]Bar none the best rant by a Chicago manager / coach ever.

"Kiss my ass and lick my balls right downtown and PRINT IT!"

For your listening pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0CDtEz_Bo[/QUOTE]Mongers remember that wrigley field has become the largest pickup bar in the world!

Tx 4 the link. I have listened to it recently many xs over. Also the steve bartman video as well as reading about gus and the goat from in the day (guess security wasn't as tight!) I would put the aforementioned all hall of fame worthy! But lee's rant is the best of the best. I hear but it is unconfirmed that les grobstein (good guy BTW from 670 the score these days) was the guy that pushed the button on his tape recorder and his is the only known recording of such rant! Still looking to buy my lee elia rant t shirt to wear at the park! Those 3 k f'in so called fans!

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;2974474]Mongers remember that wrigley field has become the largest pickup bar in the world!

[/QUOTE]Really? I live right next to Wrigley Field. Well that's News to me. Girls go to Wrigleyville to forget about guys. And guys go to Wrigleyville to pick up girls with Zero Success. Wrigley the largest pick up bar? More like the largest rejection bar.

Still the case with Chicago sports fans. Fair weather fans.

[QUOTE=CallMeSlappy;2974430]Bar none the best rant by a Chicago manager / coach ever.

"Kiss my ass and lick my balls right downtown and PRINT IT!"

For your listening pleasure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0CDtEz_Bo[/QUOTE]

All this talk of days gone by has rekindled my interest in my Euro massage experiences from the past. Chicago has always been fertile ground for Euro culture (both mainstream and black market). I've been traveling through the north burbs since childhood. I've been enjoying European bodywork for almost 20 years. How long have these nondescript offices and strip mall spas been hosts to all of these kosher Euro honeys? Glasnost in the 80's and the fall of the Berlin Wall? The swinging 60's? Perhaps the days of Capone and prohibition. ? It makes me wonder.

[QUOTE=StanleyStankas;2974474]Mongers remember that wrigley field has become the largest pickup bar in the world!

[/QUOTE]Stanley, WF has always been and always will be the biggest pick up bar in this town. But it's not a mongering destination for us grown up guys to pull young hotties.

Now, if you are a young fella with game, it's shooting fish in a barrel.

Went to Olga's little UTR Euro place in BG. Can't recall the name of the current MT unfortunately. Older, blond, quite heavy. Wouldn't really recommend. Standard finish, but very lackluster. A little roaming is allowed, but also not very fun to do so. Massage was also way too light for my taste. Felt like I needed another massage as soon as I left. Door = . 65 + standard. Also, somehow neither she, nor Olga, were very friendly to me. Especially Olga. Don't think I'll return.

[QUOTE=Riina;2985089]Stanley, WF has always been and always will be the biggest pick up bar in this town. But it's not a mongering destination for us grown up guys to pull young hotties.

Now, if you are a young fella with game, it's shooting fish in a barrel.[/QUOTE]I am in the park and the surrounding area all the time! Not a season's holder but do frequent my regular seat section! It's everywhere but again and agreed it's an observance for me at 64 years of age! I enjoy watching these dudes spending all kinds of cash on their date or the group of dudes moving closer in to the group of girlies w / their cubbie gear! As a fan of ball I go to watch it very intently! As a fan of balling I do enjoy these young guys chat among-st themselves and then decide to make their move! I am told it's not a date any longer it's a hook-up and I guess that includes sex! Of some sorts! Ha!

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;2999712]Went to Olga's little UTR Euro place in BG. Can't recall the name of the current MT unfortunately. Older, blond, quite heavy. Wouldn't really recommend. Standard finish, but very lackluster. A little roaming is allowed, but also not very fun to do so. Massage was also way too light for my taste. Felt like I needed another massage as soon as I left. Door = . 65 + standard. Also, somehow neither she, nor Olga, were very friendly to me. Especially Olga. Don't think I'll return.[/QUOTE]Was it Maria?

[QUOTE=KyloBen;2999765]Was it Maria?[/QUOTE]Nope definitely not Maria. Another monger said it was probably Sophia and that sounds right. How is Maria? Sophia was just-ok, but I'd try the place again if there's another person I might like better. Don't have much Euro place experience, except for a few strictly legit providers.

Had two visits with Sylvia. First visit was a great massage with standard finish. We were both comfortable. 2nd visit we started with the massage and I graduated to the bedroom experience. Lots of fun all around ending with a complete experience. A very nice lady and a great time.

Much like the EMP Chicago industry as a whole, this particular board has seen it's best days come and go. I recently had a session at an EMP with a forty something provider and we discussed the industry, where it was before, where it is today, and likely where it's headed tomorrow. It was a rather bleak picture that she painted and I suppose that all good things eventually come to an end.

She came here 15 years ago during the glory days of the Chicago EMP scene, according to her. This was before the internet had taken hold, when you had to find the numbers in the classifieds. Back then there was so much work you only had to work a few days a week to make a decent living. The outcalls were the most popular for the girls because they could keep a significantly larger amount of the take. Incalls were just play around money, she said. The real money started after 6 pm. That was when the phones rang off the hook looking for young Euro talent to come to your house or hotel. They rang all the way until midnight. So you could potentially have 4 to 5 sessions AFTER your incall hours, if that's what you wanted.

Now she says, she barely gets 3 to 4 a week. And that's not because she is older, it's simply because there is no demand anymore. She blames it all on the internet, saying that it is responsible for the decline. She says girls open up their own little places because they get to keep all the money themselves, instead of dishing out half to the owners. But here's where I disagree. There aren't that many Euro girls providing massage services on BP or Craigslist. Most are over 30 if not over 40 and have been here for a long time. There is no young new talent coming to Chicago to give one hour massages in a parlor. So where is the actual demand? I don't know. Even the euro motel room services have gone away. There used to be 3 or 4 with about 4 or 5 girls each that had the 120/160 rates for hh or hour. You didn't really get much of a massage but the girls were younger and attractive. Now there's only really 1 agency left and the talent is hit or miss.

The only real demand I see out there for Euro girls is the 400 an hour elite escort talent agencies that circulate girls around the country. But that's not exactly the same thing and those have always been there and cater to a different clientele. The standard Megi's type EMP where you had about 4 or 5 girls to chose from, with a table shower, is gone. And I don't think they are ever coming back. AMP's have never been busier, but if you want a place where you can actually have a decent conversation, you are essentially shit out of luck. You have the 40 somethings who are in the twilight of their careers or you have the 180 to 240 an hour sessions with the American / Euro places that essentially give you no real massage and upsell everything.

I'm not sure if this is the trend everywhere or just Chicago, but I would be interested to find out. What are your guys' opinions?

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3023764]Much like the EMP Chicago industry as a whole, this particular board has seen it's best days come and go. I recently had a session at an EMP with a forty something provider and we discussed the industry, where it was before, where it is today, and likely where it's headed tomorrow. It was a rather bleak picture that she painted and I suppose that all good things eventually come to an end...[/QUOTE]I first dipped into the EMP scene around 2002 or so and yes, it seemed as if the pickings were much more rich. The Berlin wall fell a decade earlier and East / West relations made immigration to America an exciting new thing for young people. Flash forward to 2016. Most of that talent is now in its 40's. The new arrivals, if they even choose America over other European destinations, are now more worldly and savvy. Coming to America is no longer an all-or-nothing option. <I That's the thing that changed. </ I The internet opened-up a worldwide view not readily available to those college aged Euros from 20 years ago. The Russian nurses and medical techs who come here still end up working as simple nannies or aides. The top shelf sex workers stay top shelf sex workers. You'll have a few smart ones who still bridge the gap in the middle, like they did a decade ago. You'll just have to look harder.

My suggestion from personal experiences with legit body workers is to meet a Euro at a traditional spa, one you really take a shine to, and play the long game. The best UTR I ever had was an American I met for a legit session at a suburban spa. With some coaxing, and 2-3 visits, we finally moved our sessions to her home table.

(What I'd also like to know, is what was the EMP scene like in Chicago BEFORE the fall of Communism? Was there even an EMP scene. ?

I really loved Kaya. Even though she seemed very legit, she allowed playful banter and there was even a pat on the ass between us. Mild stuff, but now that she's apparently been running FF for the past year, it makes me wonder if she plays by different rules.

She's married, has a kid, and drives a very expensive car. I doubt she'd risk any of that, but a man can dream.

I never really knew about the emp's until I started reading the forum- so not sure I agree about that part. They're more secluded- the incalls that is. A lot of the talent has dried up- at least at the places I used to go. 7th Heaven was a favorite of mine but when Eva, Irenia, and Veronica all left it lost it's appeal. All of those gals were thin & really attractive in my opinion and gave a very good therapeutic massages. Now it seems the gal either doesn't give a good massage or isn't pretty. It's hard to have it all and they charge more now than they did back then. More money for a lousier experience. If they lowered their prices, hired hotter gals who knew how to give great massages things would improve. The old days of American spas where the gal would change into her bra and panties or a bikini was good as well. Anyway that's my take.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3023764]Much like the EMP Chicago industry as a whole, this particular board has seen it's best days come and go. I recently had a session at an EMP with a forty something provider and we discussed the industry, where it was before, where it is today, and likely where it's headed tomorrow. It was a rather bleak picture that she painted and I suppose that all good things eventually come to an end.[/QUOTE]Yes, I can add something about my own experiences.

Northbrook. 15 years ago I hit the places there pretty often. They wanted more than an AMP for the simple rub and tug. But the women where blonde and beautiful, so I treated myself. Then the quality started to go down, and the organizer / owners didn't pass on the info that you are a "known" customer. For instance 3 years ago I had a nice session with one Polish woman. 2 weeks later I call for another appointment with the same, but she is not working I am told. But the guy on the phone assures me that the girl he is sending is very nice and experienced, etc. OK, please tell her I am a repeat customer. Sure, sure. So I go and get a nice looking blonde, Polish but without a trace of accent. We talk nice. I get my hands on her legs and butt during the massage with no objection. We talk about my previous experiences with the girl she was replacing. On the flip she covers me, I remove the towel, she puts it right back on, accused me of "bragging", I wasn't, continues for 5 minutes and then is out of there like a shot, with the door slamming behind her. How frustrating is that? I understand they need to be careful, but if I am a known customer, what else can I do to show I'm not LE, or complain that she dared to touch my junk?

Another problem was the place Vera ran in Buffalo Grove. 5 years ago the quality was really nice. Then they left and were replaced by fatter, tattooed types. She had one who stayed on, Maria. But she started to look beat up after a while. I got another woman who told me Maria would go on 3 day drunks and that's why she looked the way she did. This other woman was OK, but started to get way too demanding for tips for the standard.

Over the winter I thought I'd give one of the Northbrook places another shot, but at their Schaumburg location, since I was working around there. Same building as that Pure spa, but upstairs. Russian women, blonde, nice looking, who kept me covered the whole time and played Christian music on the music box. Hard to concentrate on getting a woody when you hear Jesus, Jesus, Jesus over and over. Sorry Jesus, but it's true. Nothing happened there.

11 years ago I got a massage from a Ukrainian woman in BG, set up by Yuri (remember him). What a doll. On my first session with her she gave me 4 HJs and let me suck on her lovely funbags as much as I wanted. I went to this one for years at her apartment, then she gave it up and sold her cell phone number to an outcall only place.

Honestly, I'd love to give some Euros more business, but I don't want the expense and frustration of it all.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;3024338]Yes, I can add something about my own experiences.

Northbrook. 15 years ago I hit the places there pretty often. They wanted more than an AMP for the simple rub and tug. But the women where blonde and beautiful, so I treated myself. Then the quality started to go down, and the organizer / owners didn't pass on the info that you are a "known" customer. For instance 3 years ago I had a nice session with one Polish woman. 2 weeks later I call for another appointment with the same, but she is not working I am told. But the guy on the phone assures me that the girl he is sending is very nice and experienced, etc. OK, please tell her I am a repeat customer. Sure, sure. So I go and get a nice looking blonde, Polish but without a trace of accent. We talk nice. I get my hands on her legs and butt during the massage with no objection. We talk about my previous experiences with the girl she was replacing. On the flip she covers me, I remove the towel, she puts it right back on, accused me of "bragging", I wasn't, continues for 5 minutes and then is out of there like a shot, with the door slamming behind her. How frustrating is that? I understand they need to be careful, but if I am a known customer, what else can I do to show I'm not LE, or complain that she dared to touch my junk?

Another problem was the place Vera ran in Buffalo Grove. 5 years ago the quality was really nice. Then they left and were replaced by fatter, tattooed types. She had one who stayed on, Maria. But she started to look beat up after a while. I got another woman who told me Maria would go on 3 day drunks and that's why she looked the way she did. This other woman was OK, but started to get way too demanding for tips for the standard.

Over the winter I thought I'd give one of the Northbrook places another shot, but at their Schaumburg location, since I was working around there. Same building as that Pure spa, but upstairs. Russian women, blonde, nice looking, who kept me covered the whole time and played Christian music on the music box. Hard to concentrate on getting a woody when you hear Jesus, Jesus, Jesus over and over. Sorry Jesus, but it's true. Nothing happened there.

11 years ago I got a massage from a Ukrainian woman in BG, set up by Yuri (remember him). What a doll. On my first session with her she gave me 4 HJs and let me suck on her lovely funbags as much as I wanted. I went to this one for years at her apartment, then she gave it up and sold her cell phone number to an outcall only place.

Honestly, I'd love to give some Euros more business, but I don't want the expense and frustration of it all.[/QUOTE]I really don; t think the owners / managers "train" these new girls to the expectations, limits and desires of clients. Many are told it's a "Massage" only without being told that the expectations are for at least a HJ or more. I've had a few sweeties that were clueless on their first few weeks on the job. If they don; t get comfortable with extras after awhile they either fade away or are replaced. Breaking in new talent can be fun and rewarding, but you have to know when to hold 'them and know when to fold 'them.

Hello. I just wish we had something like that in Mchenry county. It's all old Asian women here. Like looks are at best a 4. Had one nice Latino girl. But boyfriend found out what she did made her quit. Any info please let me know.

Saw her again awsome time god I love seeing her she is great.

[QUOTE=Truthfu11;3024613]I really don; t think the owners / managers "train" these new girls to the expectations, limits and desires of clients. Many are told it's a "Massage" only without being told that the expectations are for at least a HJ or more. I've had a few sweeties that were clueless on their first few weeks on the job. If they don; t get comfortable with extras after awhile they either fade away or are replaced. Breaking in new talent can be fun and rewarding, but you have to know when to hold 'them and know when to fold 'them.[/QUOTE]I know for fact quite a few providers and / or their handlers keep your phone number. For instance, Anna's UTR would send me text messages after a few visits, saying she had openings, a new girl, a special. I few years back, when Vera's Aesthetic was still taking phone calls, she would push a new girl on me when I called. I said "OK, but please tell her I'm a repeat customer. " And she would assure me she would tell the girl what a good customer I was. And when I went for my appointment, no problem. As for the experience I described earlier. The new girl absolutely knew I was good and still shut me out. And when I related this heart breaker of a story to you guys, I heard back, saying that girl was no problem, but you had to be a repeat customer. Like, 2 or 3 visits ought to do it. No, I'm not going to pay the euros the. 7 to. 8 they want for a visit, and then tip them, 3 times before I can get the standard.

The EU changed things. A lot of the Polish and other Eastern Europe girls ended up going back to Europe when their country joined the EU because they could live and work anywhere in the union. Same thing with all of the Polish maids and cleaning ladies who used to work for the rich old ladies up in Lake Forest, and their husbands / boyfriends all got construction jobs in Britain.

[QUOTE=Ramone24;3024891]The EU changed things. A lot of the Polish and other Eastern Europe girls ended up going back to Europe when their country joined the EU because they could live and work anywhere in the union. Same thing with all of the Polish maids and cleaning ladies who used to work for the rich old ladies up in Lake Forest, and their husbands / boyfriends all got construction jobs in Britain.[/QUOTE]Maybe we'll see an influx of English women then. Great Britain left the EU.

Visited with Aleena this week. Raven black hair, thin lips and sad, European eyes. She had a soft, pleasant personality, making her a bit of a wallflower. Her curvy, solid frame and absolutely stellar massage skills give her high marks. I requested firm pressure and she gave me a spa quality experience. The build-up was delivered towards the middle, allowing me another 20-30 minutes of deep massage bliss toward the end. Probably only in her late 20's. Never any discussion of payment. It would be nice to see more honest and youthful Euro talent like this in the scene.

As I was leaving, I noticed a bare bones massage card fixed to the wall near the stairwell. The number (224) 522-4066 draws no hits on Google. When I made it out to the parking lot, I then noticed a nervous looking Liana from Tat's glancing around and dragging on a cigarette from inside her car. Her greasy, crimped blond hair and weak chin gave her away. Another Euro monger was pulling into the lot as I drove away. I feel bad for you, sir. Liana has a trashy, uneasy vibe and awful skills. I'm willing to bet that card left behind was for her and Tat's.

[QUOTE=BottleRocket12;3023764]Much like the EMP Chicago industry as a whole, this particular board has seen it's best days come and go. I recently had a session at an EMP with a forty something provider and we discussed the industry, where it was before, where it is today, and likely where it's headed tomorrow. It was a rather bleak picture that she painted and I suppose that all good things eventually come to an end.

She came here 15 years ago during the glory days of the Chicago EMP scene, according to her. This was before the internet had taken hold, when you had to find the numbers in the classifieds. Back then there was so much work you only had to work a few days a week to make a decent living. The outcalls were the most popular for the girls because they could keep a significantly larger amount of the take. Incalls were just play around money, she said. The real money started after 6 pm. That was when the phones rang off the hook looking for young Euro talent to come to your house or hotel. They rang all the way until midnight. So you could potentially have 4 to 5 sessions AFTER your incall hours, if that's what you wanted.

Now she says, she barely gets 3 to 4 a week. And that's not because she is older, it's simply because there is no demand anymore. She blames it all on the internet, saying that it is responsible for the decline. She says girls open up their own little places because they get to keep all the money themselves, instead of dishing out half to the owners. But here's where I disagree. There aren't that many Euro girls providing massage services on BP or Craigslist. Most are over 30 if not over 40 and have been here for a long time. There is no young new talent coming to Chicago to give one hour massages in a parlor. So where is the actual demand? I don't know. Even the euro motel room services have gone away. There used to be 3 or 4 with about 4 or 5 girls each that had the 120/160 rates for hh or hour. You didn't really get much of a massage but the girls were younger and attractive. Now there's only really 1 agency left and the talent is hit or miss.

The only real demand I see out there for Euro girls is the 400 an hour elite escort talent agencies that circulate girls around the country. But that's not exactly the same thing and those have always been there and cater to a different clientele. The standard Megi's type EMP where you had about 4 or 5 girls to chose from, with a table shower, is gone. And I don't think they are ever coming back. AMP's have never been busier, but if you want a place where you can actually have a decent conversation, you are essentially shit out of luck. You have the 40 somethings who are in the twilight of their careers or you have the 180 to 240 an hour sessions with the American / Euro places that essentially give you no real massage and upsell everything.

I'm not sure if this is the trend everywhere or just Chicago, but I would be interested to find out. What are your guys' opinions?[/QUOTE]The scene is really starting to suck. Mostly has beens. Finding a relatively good looking women at a decent price are like finding a needle in a hay stack now.

[QUOTE=Lokkin4;3031050] Finding a relatively good looking women at a decent price are like finding a needle in a hay stack now.[/QUOTE]These women are hard to find. But they're out there.

The blonde was probably Sofia. Unfortunately, not the same Sofia from about 5 yrs ago when Olga was located in the chiropracter's office by the school. "That" Sofia was the hottest Euro masseuse I have ever had. I have had this version of Sofia a few times. Wasn't to bad. She did provide some "dirty talk" during the handshake which made things go nicely. Olga can be a b* I've been going to her place on and off since '09. Olga typically ends up pissing off the MT's and they quit. Two of them that have left and went on their own tell me she is a horrible boss to work for. I have had Olga as a MT a few times over the years and she is extremely hard on the boys. Not pleasurable at all.

[QUOTE=MrSmartyPants;2999712]Went to Olga's little UTR Euro place in BG. Can't recall the name of the current MT unfortunately. Older, blond, quite heavy. Wouldn't really recommend. Standard finish, but very lackluster. A little roaming is allowed, but also not very fun to do so. Massage was also way too light for my taste. Felt like I needed another massage as soon as I left. Door = . 65 + standard. Also, somehow neither she, nor Olga, were very friendly to me. Especially Olga. Don't think I'll return.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PistolPete;3032019]The blonde was probably Sofia. Unfortunately, not the same Sofia from about 5 yrs ago when Olga was located in the chiropracter's office by the school. "That" Sofia was the hottest Euro masseuse I have ever had. I have had this version of Sofia a few times. Wasn't to bad. She did provide some "dirty talk" during the handshake which made things go nicely. Olga can be a b* I've been going to her place on and off since '09. Olga typically ends up pissing off the MT's and they quit. Two of them that have left and went on their own tell me she is a horrible boss to work for. I have had Olga as a MT a few times over the years and she is extremely hard on the boys. Not pleasurable at all.[/QUOTE]Yep, the blonde does sound like Sofia.

It's been my experience if Olga's not in the office, she's constantly texting Sofia even though she knows Sofia is with a client, me.

I've had 1 appointment with Olga. I left somewhat happy, but it's also my last. She is rough on the boys, and doesn't seem to care. I told her she was actually hurting me, and she eased up for all of 5 seconds and then right back at it.

[QUOTE=DrManhattan;3028381]Visited with Aleena this week. Raven black hair, thin lips and sad, European eyes. She had a soft, pleasant personality, making her a bit of a wallflower. Her curvy, solid frame and absolutely stellar massage skills give her high marks. I requested firm pressure and she gave me a spa quality experience. The build-up was delivered towards the middle, allowing me another 20-30 minutes of deep massage bliss toward the end. Probably only in her late 20's. Never any discussion of payment. It would be nice to see more honest and youthful Euro talent like this in the scene.

As I was leaving, I noticed a bare bones massage card fixed to the wall near the stairwell. The number (224) 522-4066 draws no hits on Google. When I made it out to the parking lot, I then noticed a nervous looking Liana from Tat's glancing around and dragging on a cigarette from inside her car. Her greasy, crimped blond hair and weak chin gave her away. Another Euro monger was pulling into the lot as I drove away. I feel bad for you, sir. Liana has a trashy, uneasy vibe and awful skills. I'm willing to bet that card left behind was for her and Tat's.[/QUOTE]Belongs to a girl I reviewed here a while back. Went by European touch. Worthwhile to search it out.

[QUOTE=Zoomy99;3033455]Belongs to a girl I reviewed here a while back. Went by European touch. Worthwhile to search it out.[/QUOTE]Belongs to this ad [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/european-full-body-massage-northbrook-northfield/28754713[/URL].

[QUOTE=Bebop60;3033516]Belongs to this ad [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/european-full-body-massage-northbrook-northfield/28754713[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thank you for the heads-up. From what I understand, she's older and not the woman in the ad? If she also operates in that basement, who's service is she with? I doubt it's the Mantra office. That one absolutely HATES any competition. If she saw that card first, she would've torn it up! I've seen her first hand pick a fight with CT staff on my way out of the door.

[QUOTE=CallMeSlappy;3032147]Yep, the blonde does sound like Sofia.

It's been my experience if Olga's not in the office, she's constantly texting Sofia even though she knows Sofia is with a client, me.

I've had 1 appointment with Olga. I left somewhat happy, but it's also my last. She is rough on the boys, and doesn't seem to care. I told her she was actually hurting me, and she eased up for all of 5 seconds and then right back at it.[/QUOTE]I had Sophia once and it was not pleasant. She was large in the 40's with blonde hair. I remember feeling her large fingers that were rough feeling like sandpaper. Not my cup of tea sensual wise. Never have been back since. Wish there was a place with better looking euros with good service but I guess not in Chicagoland.

Remember the Skin Professionals office that was located on and. Plum Grove Road in Schaumburg? Decent teasing from both Olga and Mollie. Curious if anyone actually ever received extras. PM if interested in sharing and why I would ask.

[QUOTE=DrManhattan;3040769]Remember the Skin Professionals office that was located on and. Plum Grove Road in Schaumburg? Decent teasing from both Olga and Mollie. Curious if anyone actually ever received extras. PM if interested in sharing and why I would ask.[/QUOTE]Define the teasing please. Actual contact while face down, or just getting sort of close?