Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3563991]I reported this to SA a month or so back. In my area every Friday older profiles pop up with recent locations out of the country. The first time they said it was not a problem. Older profiles being activated was part for the course. The second time they said it would be turned over to the security team. Both times I provided numerous 5 links. My question was if someone out of the country can activate old links is that a hack. They say nothing to worry about. I haven't renewed my membership till I see where this goes.[/QUOTE]I have the same concern, and reported it but never got a reply back. I was surfing the site late one night about 7 to 12 days ago, when the site froze up and got sluggish for a few minutes (I know it wasn't my computer because I was surfing other sites with no issues), then it got back to normal and I noticed almost 10+ profiles show up that were from 2011 and out of country.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3564189]I have the same concern, and reported it but never got a reply back. I was surfing the site late one night about 7 to 12 days ago, when the site froze up and got sluggish for a few minutes (I know it wasn't my computer because I was surfing other sites with no issues), then it got back to normal and I noticed almost 10+ profiles show up that were from 2011 and out of country.[/QUOTE]I'm seeing 15-20 profiles every Friday and I've seen them dated back to I think 2007. I do a 100 mile radius search and because of my location I find them pretty easy. As of today there is only 1627 profiles in that 100 mile radius so these profiles are easy to spot. I don't think their security is as good as they think. If someone is able to activate old profiles it's just a matter of time.

Wow, the past few days I've noticed a breakout of GPS, please gents try not to pass it around. Work hard to keep it quarantined and contained. Here are the infected (affected) ladies: LiveFunGirl (stripper) $500 or with her friend (stripper) for $1000, Maskedromancexx $1000/ week includes 2 visits per week, Evita26 (stripper) $500, and last but not least SKY_lar34 (stripper) negotiated down to $400. I hope this doesn't spread.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3563839]My hunch is she is more scam then not. I've been in a dialogue with her twice, once a month ago and it was days in between texts, and didn't go anywhere so I finally gave up. Then again recently, and when we got down to last minute details of 300 to party, then she popped the 1/2 fee in advance. I have NEVER done advance, and I can't recall ever hearing about anyone with good success with that. When I expressed to her that scammers do that and why did she need 1/2 up front, she stopped texting. BTW, I never sensed a skeptical/cautious side of her, actually seemed more confident.[/QUOTE]I don't mind paying in advance with venmo or google wallet, because in the event she scams you.

You can file a dispute or do a charge back. Venmo always gives money back immediately and google wallet does as well. Both very sender friendly. Paypal is very different though. 2 times I have had price almost cut in 1/2 to pay with these.

That's how These young girls want money. They don't believ cash works. LOL.

[QUOTE=NastyBoys10;3565651]I don't mind paying in advance with venmo or google wallet, because in the event she scams you.

You can file a dispute or do a charge back. Venmo always gives money back immediately and google wallet does as well. Both very sender friendly. Paypal is very different though. 2 times I have had price almost cut in 1/2 to pay with these.

That's how These young girls want money. They don't believ cash works. LOL.[/QUOTE]Just a matter of time Before you get burned. Paying in advance is what they WANT. But that doesn't make it a good idea. Who doesn't want to be paid in advance? Does your employer pay you in advance?

THE ONLY time I'd give a SB something in advance is after I'd known her forever and had established trust. Time AND TRUST. Several I've known for 3 plus years I wouldn't give money to in advance, unless as a gift, cause that's what it is, a gift. Not saying there aren't plenty of honest SB's out there but you are going to hit some speed bumps going about it like you are.

They know cash works. Cash is still King, and I haven't had a single one turn it down yet.

But by all means carry on.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3565479]Wow, the past few days I've noticed a breakout of GPS, please gents try not to pass it around. Work hard to keep it quarantined and contained. Here are the infected (affected) ladies: LiveFunGirl (stripper) $500 or with her friend (stripper) for $1000, Maskedromancexx $1000/ week includes 2 visits per week, Evita26 (stripper) $500, and last but not least SKY_lar34 (stripper) negotiated down to $400. I hope this doesn't spread.[/QUOTE]Is also Sexygirlyum. Not saying she's NOT a stripper but she wasn't in 2015. She could have taken up the pole as a profession. I saw her and her friend last year. I know their names but won't say their real names here. But the pics are the same. Its definitely her.

She texted me last week and Ill just say the price you are quoting isn't anywhere near what she told me. But that doesn't surprise me, often an SB is as high as possible to start with, just to see if you'll bite. Then after they get to know you. They ease up a bit if theirs chemistry. I didn't take her up on her offer last week. But price wasn't the issue. I'm just not seeing anyone at the moment.

[QUOTE=TheDistance;2739722]As someone who's been enjoying this type of relationships for a long time, I thought I'd add a few things (you can see some of my advice early in this thread).

What I've seen from Evalder, Goodtimes and IndyGuy echoes my thoughts and experiences. The ladies I'm looking for are not pros, and treating them like a pro isn't going to go anywhere. The ones I'm looking for are generally young ladies that want to be wined and dined, get their nails and hair done, maybe a little help here and there with the rent. The relationship I'm interested in is much more a committed, caring, friends-with-benefits style than a "menu-based" type of relationship. I don't use SA, so I'm not really qualified to comment directly on the resources that are available; I tend to meet my SBs through real life interactions or sometimes through Craigslist. I bring the same amount of charm, attention and effort as I would to a normal dating relationship, and that's what I expect in return.

First, I want to echo all the advice about never paying for a M&G. I'll buy dinner, spring for the coffee or drinks, whatever. I usually shoot for a lunch meeting just because it's more casual. I treat it like a flirtatious job interview. I want to know about the person, their thoughts, what their requirements are, and why they think they'd make a good sugar baby. I don't necessarily want to hear their sob story (if there is one). I wouldn't dream of giving someone money through Western Union / Moneygram. They need to put forth the effort if they want me to reciprocate. Ladies with the attitude that the DADDY needs to give them something first are living in a fantasy world (or they're being successful taking advantage of guys who are a bit too desperate and don't understand the dynamics of this type of relationship yet).

Second, I wouldn't EVER give a prospective SB a second chance to stand me up. She misses that first date, or she's more than a few minutes late (and I'd better know she's going to be late), and I'm done. Just like I'd treat it if there was a job interview. I've had strings of dead mothers, dead step-fathers, dead daughters, hospitalized loved ones, ER visit excuses. I've also had overslept, got in the shower late, was cleaning out my closet. I really don't care what the excuse is, obviously meeting wasn't important enough to you, so don't cry to me that your rent is due.

Third, there are a lot of sweet, smart, sexy young ladies that are thrilled to death with a steady, committed $600-$800 per month. They're not having to work 100 hours to get that, they generally get to have a good time, etc. If you do your best to treat them well both in public and in private, they'll respond. The idea of $6000 up front "to prove your wealth" is ludicrous in the extreme. That may be necessary if you're trying to seduce some Hollywood starlet, but a midwestern college cutie? Maybe I'm just not that desperate. I do get the occasional "$1000/ wk" type of woman, and strangely, they generally seem to be the least attractive variety. It's weird.

I know on another thread it was said that all these girls are pros, but I don't see it that way. I don't think there's anything at all wrong with a woman being attracted to a guy because he treats her nicely. As a matter of fact, I think it makes perfect sense for a college student who is focused on her school and doesn't want the drama of a "normal" relationship to seek out this kind of relationship. I think there's plenty of reasons for a young lady to be attracted to a decent looking, well kept, gentleman who takes good care of her without it making her a professional or a sex worker.

TD.

P.S. I saw Britt a couple of times a few years back, but got a real serious "stripper vibe" from here with her wanting to negotiate everything. I got a good chuckle at her, "Never done this before" spiel mentioned here. Honestly, I don't like real "meaty" girl parts, either, so I didn't find her that attractive out of her clothes.[/QUOTE]This is such a good post I wanted to re post it! Its exactly how I roll. Well. I TRY to anyway.

Also Britt is back. Talked to her last night, just as friends though.

Only thing I disagree with is the last part of his post. Britt meaty?? Haha she's a spinner can't be over 110 lbs. But anyway. GREAT POST 100% TRUE and unfortunately its getting harder to find REAL SB's. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Nitro69;3567727]This is such a good post I wanted to re post it! Its exactly how I roll. Well. I TRY to anyway.

Also Britt is back. Talked to her last night, just as friends though.

Only thing I disagree with is the last part of his post. Britt meaty?? Haha she's a spinner can't be over 110 lbs. But anyway. GREAT POST 100% TRUE and unfortunately its getting harder to find REAL SB's. Happy hunting![/QUOTE]I think he was talking about her labia, not her dress size. Haha.

Met her a couple of weeks ago, it was very late night and short notice and she was ok with it. Pretty (not gorgeous, but beauty is in eyes of beholder) middle aged girl lives 10 min east of Marion Co. Nice to talk to, very open minded, reasonable allowance, and a wide open menu. Not top on my favorite list, but would repeat.

Met her last week, a late night, short notice, and short visit. She is tan complexion and Brazilian heritage. She was a smaller girl under 5 ft, with enhanced top, nice butt. She's pretty (not gorgeous, but beauty is in eyes of beholder), very open minded and quick to get playtime started, very bubbly upbeat personality, almost a little hyper, and a wide open menu. Allowance was $$, and then she asked for upcharge for gas (she lives in Camby, 50 min away), but we kept with original agreed allowance. She is slightly alternative with one side of her head shaved, not my preference.

Started messaging and seemed to be going well, then I started to coordinate our first meeting. She said sure, but first can I wire $30 via Western Union because she's broke and needs medication. I didn't even bother to waste my time replying back.

Watch out she is back with new picture and a new name. Dinner Bell. She meets at Harrys orders food for two and take a to go bag. You have been warned.

I noticed her online today and was interested in pursuing. Her profile goes back to February 2017 and states Indianapolis. I messaged her and we agreed to start texting, she asked me first for my number, I prefer knowing their number first. I get a call with caller I'd from St Paul, MN (651-xxx-5945), I answer and no one answers back. Then I get a text from the same number and it's her. We text briefly and I ask why the out of state number and she replies she relocated from Indy a year ago. I asked why does she list her profile under Indy, and I get a non-logical reply. I tell her I'm looking for local lady only and wrap up our text. Moments later, I get a call on my home line from a different number (952-xxx-1977) from Eden Prairie, MN (suburb of St Paul / Minneapolis). I did not answer, I googled the number from Eden Prairie and it's a known scam number for fake tech computer support. Too coincidental for my comfort, and if related, how did they connect my fun phone cell number to my personal home line.

Curious to know if anyone has been able to crack the hard shell of strawberrybabygirl. Her profile is written to reject 100% of the men on SA, and even a thoughfilled reply is reciprocated with a reprimand of some sort. It's turning me on, the back and forth banter, but am I wasting my time with this hard nose?

Not sure if it was a scam or cold feet on her part but at the last minute she asked for advance payment through PayPal to prove I was "trustworthy. " Of course I said no and on the drive back to Indy I actually spoke with her to kill time. She might just be scared, I don't know. I'm done tho. Blocked her before I got her full handle but it starts with bloomingtonbaby.

[QUOTE=GoodTimes007;3573108]Curious to know if anyone has been able to crack the hard shell of strawberrybabygirl. Her profile is written to reject 100% of the men on SA, and even a thoughfilled reply is reciprocated with a reprimand of some sort. It's turning me on, the back and forth banter, but am I wasting my time with this hard nose?[/QUOTE]I went through the same thing with her. I finally blocked her, she's a hater.

Definitely a scammer, and I fell for it as much as I regret reporting.

She said yes to a cam session for 70. Asjed for payment in advance and I said no way. I see you live on cam, then I pay.

Cute girl, so I sent payment. Once she confirmed, she immediately ended the call and blocked me. Poof. Ghosted.

I reported her to SA and here so gentleman beware.

The svidanya.

Boris.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3573666]Not sure if it was a scam or cold feet on her part but at the last minute she asked for advance payment through PayPal to prove I was "trustworthy. " Of course I said no and on the drive back to Indy I actually spoke with her to kill time. She might just be scared, I don't know. I'm done tho. Blocked her before I got her full handle but it starts with bloomingtonbaby.[/QUOTE]

Curvyflirtythriving. Asks you to send her money during phone convo. Says she is " bored" and wants to go shopping. Haha I have her number and address. When they say they want money I always say sure but I need all your info for western union. That way when they get mad I can remind them I have their info.

Blondebaby100 - same deal, she's into " findom" hahaha guys if you are into " findom" please go outside and play in traffic, you've got zero game and self esteem.

Sweetheart11 - working girl, sexy texts, I would say she is the real deal. I passed on it but I got a feeling shed be fun.

Ladydevine69 - pretty much the same as Sweetheart11 I passed on it so someone else might find out more but from her texts she is the real deal. These two seemed like UTR girls, not a negative at all. Someone should give them a try and see what's up. Sweetheart even texted me when she was about to "entertain" and told me what was up. I appreciated her honesty!

AnnaLynnTruly100 - same as the two above, working girl. She seemed legit. Quoted me $$ I passed but it wasn't because of her. I was busy the day she wanted to meet.

Wildrose420 and Lexiallday have GPS wild rose actually sexted with me for a few days but she gets mad quick if you try to negotiate. She started at 5 bills with no relief in sight.

Cass426 pros: very sweet, no limits whatsoever, very into it, sent naughty texts, pics, and vids as I was driving up, low allowance. Cons: bigger than the pics and my preference. I won't repeat, but she would be great for dudes that like bigger girls.

[QUOTE=BorisYaz;3575723]Definitely a scammer, and I fell for it as much as I regret reporting.

She said yes to a cam session for 70. Asjed for payment in advance and I said no way. I see you live on cam, then I pay.

Cute girl, so I sent payment. Once she confirmed, she immediately ended the call and blocked me. Poof. Ghosted.

I reported her to SA and here so gentleman beware.

The svidanya.

Boris.[/QUOTE]At why these girls do this. You gave $70 in advance to a account with 3 pictures of a very average looking girl with a flabby stomach and ass. And then ***** about gps.

[QUOTE=Nitro69;3575763]
AnnaLynnTruly100 - same as the two above, working girl. She seemed legit. Quoted me $$ I passed but it wasn't because of her. I was busy the day she wanted to meet.[/QUOTE]Anna is a BP H addict. Her account is brand new. With the change to BP and no more free ads, her and a # of other BP addicts moved to SA. I found about a half dozen in a couple minutes that are all brand new accounts.

Indy Guy.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3576273]Anna is a BP H addict. Her account is brand new. With the change to BP and no more free ads, her and a # of other BP addicts moved to SA. I found about a half dozen in a couple minutes that are all brand new accounts.

Indy Guy.[/QUOTE]And they are?

[QUOTE=Nitro69;3575666]I went through the same thing with her. I finally blocked her, she's a hater.[/QUOTE]Chick is nuts. She wrote paragraphs of reasons why no woman would ever be interested in EXACTLY what her profile said. She was interested in. I wasted no more than half sentence replies on her, and allowed the exchange to go on for awhile. She put so much anger and passion into her book length replied es, she either cuts and pastes them, or is worse than Irish on the bipol scale. She joined my blocked club after I grew bored.

Contacted her she immediately asked for a picture, then let me know I wasn't her type. LOL.

[QUOTE=Indplsgent4fu;3569004]Met her last week, a late night, short notice, and short visit. She is tan complexion and Brazilian heritage. She was a smaller girl under 5 ft, with enhanced top, nice butt. She's pretty (not gorgeous, but beauty is in eyes of beholder), very open minded and quick to get playtime started, very bubbly upbeat personality, almost a little hyper, and a wide open menu. Allowance was $$, and then she asked for upcharge for gas (she lives in Camby, 50 min away), but we kept with original agreed allowance. She is slightly alternative with one side of her head shaved, not my preference.[/QUOTE]

You have to be impressed by her effort:

"I hate to sound rude right up front but believe it or not I have met some fakes on here. Not saying you are, but the 1st thing I ask someone to do is to send me $100 via FB or snapchat to show your real. I am an amazing person and unfortunately I have been taken advantage of in this cold, heartless world we live in. I am the best person to talk to and I have a personality that will keep you on your toes from the start. As you can see. I have this unique personality, forgiving and big heart all while looking as sexy as ever. If your interested in knowing more show me you real by adding me to your snapchat xxxxxxx or fb messaging me, xxxxxxx, and sending the $100. You won't be disappointed in the person I become after I know your real. Hope to hear from you soon ".

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[QUOTE=DementedBill;3577694]Contacted her she immediately asked for a picture, then let me know I wasn't her type. LOL.[/QUOTE]When I approached her the 1st time 2 months ago, it was from a different profile and I texted her a head shot pic of me in a casual polo shirt and she replied back quickly I wasn't her type and then blocked me. Fast forward to 3 weeks ago, I used a different profile, with a different phone number number, and I sent a head shot pic of me in a coat and tie, and she drive an hour over to my place. They're all moody and bipolar.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3575851]Cass426 pros: very sweet, no limits whatsoever, very into it, sent naughty texts, pics, and vids as I was driving up, low allowance. Cons: bigger than the pics and my preference. I won't repeat, but she would be great for dudes that like bigger girls.[/QUOTE]Your review was valuable to me because I was interested in her, but I feared she was a bigger girl, and you confirmed my suspicion.

BTW, my first hand experience with her is only by phone. I've been interested in her for awhile, but she rarely engaged in conversation. Then last week all of a sudden things quickly progressed and she was texting and talking and we made plans for Friday night. Friday came and no response from her, but I saw her profile go on and off line several times during the day. Then at 3:30 AM!! I get a text from her and she says that she was sick, and I ignored it. She reached out a couple more times since then asking if I was still interested, and I finally told her no I wasn't because she wasn't reliable or up front. With hundred / thousands of choices I don't need to give someone that ignores and gives me questionable excuses a 2nd chance. Happy Hunting.

Don't waste your time on this one, she wants $20 up front via paypal.

I met her recently and she is a submissive pleaser. She has a sad story and her share of misfortune, but seems like she is trying hard to get her act together. She is living out of motel close to Plainfield with a male "family" member (whatever), and needs transportation which adds an extra cost for uber or in my case 35+ minutes each way, so I am spending over 2 hours driving to pick her up and take her back. She is very reasonable in allowance, seems book smart, and LOVES to please. She would be one my favs if she didn't have a LOT of baby fat and / or if she was much closer to me.

Over the past couple of months I've had private messages asking me for contact info for sugar babies I've posted about. I do not feel that it is appropriate for me to share PRIVATE contact info without a person's consent, whether it be provider, sugar baby, hobbyist, etc. It would be totally different if the contact info was at one time posted / available publicly. Also, if I've never talked to you over the phone, or met you face to face for lunch, drinks, etc, then it's not likely I will stick my neck out to get a hold of a girl to make a recommendation or introduction. I hope that you can all appreciate that, and understand that I would expect the same consideration in return. Happy hunting fellas.

I finally crossed paths with this vixen, but not without frustrations in the past. First time I tried this past June / July and after a LOT of texting and dialogue by phone for a few days we finally agreed on allowance (reluctant agreement on her part from 500 down to 250), date and time. She confirmed day prior to our first date and several times during the day of our first date, and then less then 1 hour before showtime she went crickets. Second time was a few weeks ago when I changed profiles, she didn't know it was me and she approached me this time. We went through all the bantering and went down through the same song and dance and set up a day and time to meet. Again, she confirmed day before and day of the date, and come showtime she went crickets, but this time she texted me 90 minutes after we were supposed to meet and she tells me her sitter no showed on her. She asked if we could the next day. I rarely would waste time on 2nd or 3rd chances, but she lived only 10 minutes from me, I had nothing going on the next day and she was hot. The next day everything went as scheduled. She is open minded, light skinned, slender with shapely ass and natural c / d cup. She is taking women's studies in school, has a little attitude and is on the feminist side. She has been well spoiled by others as she mentioned St Elmos and Harry and Izzys, etc. She is a little bit of a clock watcher, at 80 minutes she reminded that she needs to get back soon, perhaps the regular allowance would be longer.

Does anyone have a handle on how certain sbs make it into your search result list? I rarely see any of the ones you guys review appear in my list when I search, and it's not because of range, age, or other limitations on my searches. I think the site manipulates the results of your searching based on the type of membership you have. I say that because a sb told me her search results for sds were different when she was a regular or premium member. And I see the "attract" option for additional payment. And I think I was getting a lot better results when I first joined compared to what I get now. Anyone know if and how the site manipulates this and how to work around it?

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3580518]Does anyone have a handle on how certain sbs make it into your search result list? I rarely see any of the ones you guys review appear in my list when I search, and it's not because of range, age, or other limitations on my searches. I think the site manipulates the results of your searching based on the type of membership you have. I say that because a sb told me her search results for sds were different when she was a regular or premium member. And I see the "attract" option for additional payment. And I think I was getting a lot better results when I first joined compared to what I get now. Anyone know if and how the site manipulates this and how to work around it?[/QUOTE]I sometime experience similar issues, and it could be a variety of reasons. It could be the cache in your computer not pulling up the latest greatest status. Often times I will get a search response showing someone currently online, and then a few minutes later shows them several hours ago online. It could be they have their profile accidentally or deliberately hidden and you have to search for them by name. It could be they have you blocked. It could be they deactivated temporarily.

Sorry for those trying to to get a hold of me and got a full inbox. Please try again.

If you can't find any pics or videos on the net, then step right up to Jos97. She is willing to sell you pics and videos. NEXT.

She doesn't believe I will show up to meet her, BUT for only $20 via paypal, she will believe me. NEXT.

Started chatting with her 2 weeks ago, and met her a few days later. She said she was only looking for one SD, but I was inclined to believe her, and I have to admit I was in the mood to settle down with just one good sugarbaby (really), and thought it could be her. We negotiated from 4 to 2.5 each visit, and felt we could meet once or twice a week. I took her to fine upscale restaurant, and we had a great dinner. She is NOT slender like her profile says, she is curvy, average, a little thick for some, and busty. I was very turned on by her intelligence and social skills, and felt I could take her out in any upscale social setting. I ended the evening enjoying her curves and oral talents and skills. As we talked the next day, I caught her in a couple of discrepancies in some of her tales (typical for girls) but just had me concerned more then usual, and started feeling that she might have more drama. I have not reached back out to her, she is SA site surfing daily and I suspect looking for bigger, better deals.

She just joined a few days ago and we started messaging. Her profile pics looked appealing and we started planning for a short notice, very late night meeting. Our texting took forever almost 60 to 90 minutes, so I was able to do my social media research and she looked good but could not find any full length pics. I wanted to see full length pics before I proceeded, and kept asking her for them. She finally sent 2 pics, one was normal office apparel and seemed ok, the other was summer casual and she looked rough, and was NOT flattering. I asked if she had bikini and she said she doesn't have pics like that, but then she immediately proceeded to send me a VERY sexy pic in lingerie, but she cut off the head and honestly it did not look even close to the physique of everything else she had sent. Also, all 3 pics had 3 different phones in the selfie. I brought up the 3 different cell phone issue and asked when she took the sexy pic and she said recently. She then tells me she is hard on phones and she went through 3 cell phones in the past 3 month. I tried to tactfully ask her to take another full length sexy picture and this time to try and include everything (I. E. her face). After about 15 minutes later she sends me a picture from upper stomach on up, and she is in running top / bra and looked ok, but again you can't see the lower half. I thanked her and made an excuse that it was already 3 am and too late to start anything and good night (I. E. Good-bye).

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