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[QUOTE=Chunks92;6012815]If those held up in court against the dudes its because they fucked themselves and talked.[/QUOTE]My favorite part of the article was "Five suspected victims of human trafficking were identified. West Chester helped three women and Chillicothe helped two. ".
Five women were saved from human trafficking. What an effin joke.
[QUOTE=Chunks92;6012815]If those held up in court against the dudes its because they fucked themselves and talked.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Chunks.
The issue in this discussion is whether LE would stake out an AMP.
Clearly, that is what happened in the AMP busts of 2012 in Warren.
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"Investigative notes from the county prosecutors office and the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the investigative arm of DeWines office, were recently released to the Tribune Chronicle. The notes reveal statements from spa employees, surveillance results and information about evidence collected during a sweep of the spas on May 30, 2012."
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2014/06/despite-prostitution-allegations-still-no-charges-in-spa-cases/
Key words: surveillance results
Regarding the 2012 AMP bust in Trumbull County, 38 men were identified through videotaping done near the parlors.
None of the 38 were able to remain silent after their arrests.
They escaped convictions in exchange for their cooperation in the investigation.
They did not escape notoriety. Their names were published.
[URL]https://vindyarchives.com/news/2012/jun/14/-customers-of-warren-massage-parlors-ord/[/URL]
[QUOTE=SuStar;6012856]Thanks, Chunks.
The issue in this discussion is whether LE would stake out an AMP.
Clearly, that is what happened in the AMP busts of 2012 in Warren.
/quote
"Investigative notes from the county prosecutors office and the state Bureau of Criminal Investigation, the investigative arm of DeWines office, were recently released to the Tribune Chronicle. The notes reveal statements from spa employees, surveillance results and information about evidence collected during a sweep of the spas on May 30, 2012."
https://www.tribtoday.com/news/local-news/2014/06/despite-prostitution-allegations-still-no-charges-in-spa-cases/
Key words: surveillance results[/QUOTE]No doubt they would and I wasnt discrediting you or saying they wouldn't. I worded it slightly improperly, they fucked themselves in addition to talking is how I should have worded it. AMPs are risky business, that is why I don't partake for reasons like this plus asian ladies just arent my cup of tea. Lot easier and much higher probability of them conducting surveillance on a place where all those people are going in and out, then on an escort who jumps from hotel to hotel. But all that surveillance and only 38? That is the tip of the iceberg, there are thousands of dudes that go in and out of those type of places every day. Those were the guys that did shit like put their real name down, paid electronic those few times as stated in the article, or were just obvious when conducting business. That is why me personally I never pay with any electronic or card, I've had escorts ask me to get rooms for them as part of the donation, what I do is pay for it cash but they have to put it in their name so nothing is tied to me. Then we go to room do our business and then I leave and they keep the room. Wrap what I have in a folded up paper envelope and pretend to drop it, throw it somewhere in the room, or put it under a pillow, guarding against that 0.00001 percent chance that the escort I'm seeing might be gathering evidence. That coupled with the fact that I never say anything incriminating when I get there. Those guys probably did. Technically if you boil it down, money has never changed hands in any single mongering escapade I've ever had. I had a couple envelopes on me at any given time and whoops, seems I dropped the envelope full of cash and the escort happened to find it and i happened to not want it back.
L O L.
C92.
[QUOTE=BuckNuts49;6012823]My favorite part of the article was "Five suspected victims of human trafficking were identified. West Chester helped three women and Chillicothe helped two. ".
Five women were saved from human trafficking. What an effin joke.[/QUOTE]Why is it a joke?
In what way is the rescue of women from human trafficking funny?
[QUOTE=Chunks92;6013019]. . . AMPs are risky business, that is why I don't partake for reasons like this . . . Lot easier and much higher probability of them conducting surveillance on a place where all those people are going in and out, than on an escort who jumps from hotel to hotel . . . That is why . . . I never pay with any electronic or card, I've had escorts ask me to get rooms for them as part of the donation, what I do is pay for it cash but they have to put it in their name so nothing is tied to me. Then we go to room do our business and then I leave and they keep the room. Wrap what I have in a folded up paper envelope and pretend to drop it, throw it somewhere in the room, or put it under a pillow, guarding against that 0.00001 percent chance that the escort I'm seeing might be gathering evidence. That coupled with the fact that I never say anything incriminating when I get there. Those guys probably did. Technically if you boil it down, money has never changed hands in any single mongering escapade I've ever had. I had a couple envelopes on me at any given time and whoops, seems I dropped the envelope full of cash and the escort happened to find it and i happened to not want it back.
L O L.
C92.[/QUOTE]My hat's off to you, Chunks.
No one is more careful with an inherently risky hobby than you.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=SuStar;6013131]Why is it a joke?
In what way is the rescue of women from human trafficking funny?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing he thinks it's funny because it's likely horseshit.
[QUOTE=WildCard;6013385]I'm guessing he thinks it's funny because it's likely horseshit.[/QUOTE]Man. You are easily triggered. Ha ha. Good luck with your paranoia.
[QUOTE=WildCard;6013385]I'm guessing he thinks it's funny because it's likely horseshit.[/QUOTE]Practically impossible to fathom that those identified as sex trafficking victims are not in fact so.
[URL]https://www.ice.gov/features/human-trafficking-victim-shares-story[/URL]
The initiative has too many participants (including the news media) to be grounded in falsehood.
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/about.html[/URL]
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/data-reports.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Human-Trafficking-Summit[/URL]
[URL]https://highlandcountypress.com/Content/In-The-News/Headlines/Article/AG-Dave-Yost-announces-success-of-anti-human-trafficking-operation-in-Cleveland/2/73/77116[/URL]
[QUOTE=SuStar;6013490]Practically impossible to fathom that those identified as sex trafficking victims are not in fact so.
[URL]https://www.ice.gov/features/human-trafficking-victim-shares-story[/URL]
The initiative has too many participants (including the news media) to be grounded in falsehood.
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/about.html[/URL]
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/data-reports.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Human-Trafficking-Summit[/URL]
[URL]https://highlandcountypress.com/Content/In-The-News/Headlines/Article/AG-Dave-Yost-announces-success-of-anti-human-trafficking-operation-in-Cleveland/2/73/77116[/URL][/QUOTE]Sure human trafficking exists and it's a deplorable thing perpetrated by despicable animals. That said, portraying every drug-addled streetwalker, and 50-something AMP worker as a human trafficking "victim" is horseshit, and has the effect of minimizing the impact on real victims.
[QUOTE=SuStar;6013490]Practically impossible to fathom that those identified as sex trafficking victims are not in fact so.
[URL]https://www.ice.gov/features/human-trafficking-victim-shares-story[/URL]
The initiative has too many participants (including the news media) to be grounded in falsehood.
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/about.html[/URL]
[URL]https://humantrafficking.ohio.gov/data-reports.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Human-Trafficking-Summit[/URL]
[URL]https://highlandcountypress.com/Content/In-The-News/Headlines/Article/AG-Dave-Yost-announces-success-of-anti-human-trafficking-operation-in-Cleveland/2/73/77116[/URL][/QUOTE]Its definitely a real thing brother, but the way Yost, the courts, and LEO go about it is wrong. The way they go about it makes it seem like they are trying to control womens bodies. If they really wanted to stop trafficking they wouldn't be on skipthegames like flies on shit LOL. very few of them on skip are trafficked, i dont feel like ive ever visited a woman off of there that was in a bad situation and i try to get a read on things before i just take the plunge. all of them have been basically normal women who have good conversation, who are hornier then most and some are recreational drug users. Most just do it to support their families or buy drugs, and some because they enjoy the work and quick money. their body, their choice to put what drugs they want in it. Their pussy, not the government's pussy. I'd actually say they are more likely to come across victims in places such as AMP's, and they don't focus on those that much, and when they do, they charge the women involved. Very few victims have been helped through these operations, most are just consenting sex workers that end up fueling the court system and getting the attention so when Yost hits up DC they pour federal dollars into Ohio for future operations. I know women that have been in the stings and am good friends with some of them. Believe me, they do not help them. if anything the cops and courts are taking food out of these women's mouths and fueling the problem even further.
[URL]https://www.wyso.org/local-and-statewide-news/2021-10-18/the-ohio-ag-says-stings-rescue-trafficking-victims-often-that-means-theyre-arrested[/URL]
To end human trafficking, we must first decriminalize consenting adult sex work.
C92.
[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6013512]Sure human trafficking exists and it's a deplorable thing perpetrated by despicable animals. That said, portraying every drug-addled streetwalker, and 50-something AMP worker as a human trafficking "victim" is horseshit, and has the effect of minimizing the impact on real victims.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And as far as the political movement to portray the consenting workers as victims, all that the movement is, is a cover up of all of the disgusting shit that our government is doing and getting away with. Lot easier for Yost and all the elites to shift the responsibility of bearing the title of misdemeanant and felon onto the poor streetwalkers and poorer johns then hold their wealthy colleagues accountable.
C92.
[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6013512]Sure human trafficking exists and it's a deplorable thing perpetrated by despicable animals. That said, portraying every drug-addled streetwalker, and 50-something AMP worker as a human trafficking "victim" is horseshit, and has the effect of minimizing the impact on real victims.[/QUOTE]It was never my intent to portray every streetwalker or AMP worker as a human trafficking victim.
The links I posted are the approaches taken by Ohio's chief law enforcement officer, Dave Yost, and others on the Federal level.
I posted the links FYI.
There are pros and cons on prostitution.
The issue is far from settled.
[URL]https://prostitution.procon.org[/URL]
[QUOTE=Chunks92;6013836] . . . Lot easier for Yost and all the elites to shift the responsibility of bearing the title of misdemeanant and felon onto the poor streetwalkers and poorer johns then hold their wealthy colleagues accountable. C92.[/QUOTE]
What is it that Yost and colleagues should be held accountable for?
Prostitution has existed in every society for which there are written records.
Throughout history, civilizations have taken opposing views of prostitutes and the sex trade.
Today, prostitution is illegal in much of the world.
A life-changing transformation would be required for AG Yost to go against the prevailing tide.
Voters in Ohio overwhelmingly approve of his performance, in my view.
The issue is much larger than Yost.
[QUOTE=SuStar;6013157]My hat's off to you, Chunks.
No one is more careful with an inherently risky hobby than you.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing based upon your screen name you are a female. Is that correct Sue star? I'm also guessing you have never shared intel on a provider on this forum. Is that also correct? The information to links you provide on this site has already been shared many times over. Nothing new here. Just wondering why you on a site meant to share information about women providing sex for men and you have not shared any.