Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=Goser;2594160]If this makes you afraid of BBBJ, then you should move out of Hawaii. First of all, the article only showed one example of of transmission by oral sex. The rest of the cases were due to some other method of transmssion.

We have cases of flesh eating bacteria here in Hawaii. You are more likely to get it swimming in the ala wai canal than the type from oral sex.[/QUOTE]With respect, the post was not meant to imply that you'd likely get flesh-eating bacterial infection via oral sex. More like a tongue in cheek response to the question of what types of diseases you can get from oral sex. Although a few on the board actively seek BBFS, many more seek BBBJ with the general thought that it's a calculated risk they are willing to take. Knowing of this case should not compel anyone to change their opintion of whether they want to engage in BBBJ but is one piece of the many pieces of information that one could use to make that determination. Peace.

[QUOTE=Goser;2583520]I was just reading the fight thread and there was a discussion going on regarding unsafe sex practices and their impact on other mongers. I'd like to continue that discussion here where it belongs because I had some questions for other mongers.

First question: If you are a safe sex monger and you always wear a condom. Only engage in CBJ. Never Daty. Never DFK. Why do you even care what other mongers do? Aren't you therefore protected by your own safe sex practices?

Second question: If you are someone who is a safe sex fanatic. Are you turned on by providers like Rara at Emerald? She seems to fit the bill for a perfect provider of safe sex, but she is not seeing any great love from message board posters. It seems like the overwhelming majority (my guess is over 75% based on a thumb in the air guess) on this message board want at least one of the following services: BBBJ, DFK, DATY, BBFS.

I travel to the mainland quite a bit. Seems like there are lots of places where BBBJ and DFK is common place. DATY as well. CFS is pretty much standard everywhere with BBFS being very rare. Hawaii is a market that is unusual in the amount of BBFS offered. It's pretty taboo in most places.

It seems to me that with the prevalance of services offered that BBBJ in particular is not causing mass problems in the mongering market.[/QUOTE]It's a mental thing that can bother a person if he decides to try a provider whom he thinks plays it safe. He can get turned off knowing that she did dfk / bbj / BBFS with other customers. He can choose to not dfk, not daty and do cfs to protect himself but, it's not the same because when he knows stuff about her, he's not as comfortable with the idea that she does that. Some guys want to see a female who plays it safe like they do, especially if she's an attractive looking girl. She's looked at as being more innocent and clean by not doing those things. Providers can look at customers in the same way. They can get turned off if they know certain things about a customer and what he expects.

To explain this in another way, a customer in a hostess bar perceives his BG that he likes as being innocent and sweet. She's not the type of BG to play. He likes her to be like that and don't care to get play from her and don't want her to be that type of BG. Later on, there are other customers who are trying to get play from her or bang her. The customer will feel bothered about that.

I can see Clinton P rant because there will be less all covered provider options out there and reduce the options to choose from. Those type of providers who they want to see who are known for being all covered will not stay for very long. The other customers who expect steak and lobster menu will chase and have chased those type of providers away. This is like BGS in a hostess bar expecting all customers to spend like high rollers because they had high roller customers spend on them. Doing this will chase the bar customers away who can't / don't want to spend like high roller customers. Now the bars slow because of that.

[QUOTE=HMobius;1889692]Good point on the contrast.

That London story is interesting; back in 1987 an acquaintance said a girl he knew opened her speech with that same story, minus the location.[/QUOTE]That is scary but consider this. Magic Johnson got his wife pregnant. She never caught anything. Easy E had about 7 mistresses. None of them caught anything either. Still I wouldn't fuck with a hot girl that I knew had HIV, jsut saying, it maybe hard to catch. You just got to be unlucky.

[QUOTE=MongerZ;2599523]That is scary but consider this. Magic Johnson got his wife pregnant. She never caught anything. Easy E had about 7 mistresses. None of them caught anything either. Still I wouldn't fuck with a hot girl that I knew had HIV, jsut saying, it maybe hard to catch. You just got to be unlucky.[/QUOTE]All I know is that the last 5 girls I have been with have let me BBFS from the first to the 3rd visit. 3 CIP and they are popular. I play the roulette wheel and get tested regularly. 2 were Empire girls and last 2, rejuve and roses. No girl out there only does CFS. You are fooling yourselves.

I'm wondering if this could happen. What if a provider not on birth control intentionally has BBFSCIP repeatedly only with one regular customer who she likes and knows quite well (like who he is and where he can be found and has lots of money/property) with the plan to have a child from him? Once pregnant, she can pursue getting child support (including health care) by proving the child's paternity with testing. It can get messy if the customer-father is married. Or if he's single and the provider needs a green card to stay in the US with his child, she can pursue a marriage with a plan for eventual divorce and settlement.

I had one friend that got a KBG pregnant and ended up marrying her. But after a few years, a divorce happened and she went back to Korea with the child. I'm sure she got a good settlement. He went into debt and closed his business afterwards.

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;2601253]I'm wondering if this could happen. What if a provider not on birth control intentionally has BBFSCIP repeatedly only with one regular customer who she likes and knows quite well (like who he is and where he can be found and has lots of money / property) with the plan to have a child from him? Once pregnant, she can pursue getting child support (including health care) and / or getting married (for a green card) by proving the child's paternity by testing.

I had one friend that got a KBG pregnant and ended up marrying her. But after a few years, a divorce happened and she went back to Korea with the child. I'm sure she got a good settlement. He went into debt and closed his business afterwards.[/QUOTE]There was a girl here in the last year who was not known as a BBFS girl who did me BBFSCIP once. I didn't ask for it and she really gave me a fantastic performance like she wanted me like nobody else ever did before. It felt great at the time and I liked it, but that thought of her wanting to have a kid with me crossed my mind. I was really concerned about it. So much so that I never went back to see her again.

[QUOTE=AmpAddict808;2601253]I'm wondering if this could happen. What if a provider not on birth control intentionally has BBFSCIP repeatedly only with one regular customer who she likes and knows quite well (like who he is and where he can be found and has lots of money/property) with the plan to have a child from him? Once pregnant, she can pursue getting child support (including health care) by proving the child's paternity with testing. It can get messy if the customer-father is married. Or if he's single and the provider needs a green card to stay in the US with his child, she can pursue a marriage with a plan for eventual divorce and settlement.

I had one friend that got a KBG pregnant and ended up marrying her. But after a few years, a divorce happened and she went back to Korea with the child. I'm sure she got a good settlement. He went into debt and closed his business afterwards.[/QUOTE]If you already have kids, it might be a good idea to get a vasectomy. You can tell her to kiss you your ass with that paternity test.

[QUOTE=Buster50;2599529]All I know is that the last 5 girls I have been with have let me BBFS from the first to the 3rd visit. 3 CIP and they are popular. I play the roulette wheel and get tested regularly. 2 were Empire girls and last 2, rejuve and roses. No girl out there only does CFS. You are fooling yourselves.[/QUOTE]Where was the fifth one from?

G35.

[QUOTE=Buster50;2599529]All I know is that the last 5 girls I have been with have let me BBFS from the first to the 3rd visit. 3 CIP and they are popular. I play the roulette wheel and get tested regularly. 2 were Empire girls and last 2, rejuve and roses. No girl out there only does CFS. You are fooling yourselves.[/QUOTE]I agree Buster.

Been mongering for over 10 year now and I can say that there are many of the popular hot girls that are known only for CFS and some that are CBJ that do BBFS and BBBJ. It just depends on how comfortable they are with you. Most of the girs were all covered in the beginning but with repeated visits and treating them right, some just passed on the covers later. And like anything else YMMV.

I get tested quarterly and also give blood 2 times a year and get the results when they test my blood. I don' try to sneak in bb, just abide with how the provider wants. Its hard to come with a cover sometimes and I was pleasantly surprised when some decided to do BB without the cover. If I want a sure thing, I can always go to Kison or some of the known BB places. But most of them are older and its nice to hang with a young hot girl. Even if covered.

I read the reviews and just pick who sounds good and who to avoid. I hate Covered BJ, so stay away from those that don't do the BBBJ. Like anything else do your homework, check out the girls and like the Quote in the Forrest Gump movie. Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

OM.

I used to be a blood donor but quit once I became a monger. I can't abstain from hookers for 3 to 6 months.

Too much risk for poor Patient.

[QUOTE=HMobius;2618646]I used to be a blood donor but quit once I became a monger. I can't abstain from hookers for 3 to 6 months.

Too much risk for poor Patient.[/QUOTE]They keep calling and calling, but like HM said the monger in me made me give up too. I admit kinda embarrassing filling out that form and they ask you if you paid anyone for sex. Cannot lie and say no. You might be infected and put someone at risk. So better for just not donate.

[QUOTE=Oioman;2618535]I agree Buster.

Been mongering for over 10 year now and I can say that there are many of the popular hot girls that are known only for CFS and some that are CBJ that do BBFS and BBBJ. It just depends on how comfortable they are with you. Most of the girs were all covered in the beginning but with repeated visits and treating them right, some just passed on the covers later. And like anything else YMMV.

I get tested quarterly and also give blood 2 times a year and get the results when they test my blood. I don' try to sneak in bb, just abide with how the provider wants. Its hard to come with a cover sometimes and I was pleasantly surprised when some decided to do BB without the cover. If I want a sure thing, I can always go to Kison or some of the known BB places. But most of them are older and its nice to hang with a young hot girl. Even if covered.

I read the reviews and just pick who sounds good and who to avoid. I hate Covered BJ, so stay away from those that don't do the BBBJ. Like anything else do your homework, check out the girls and like the Quote in the Forrest Gump movie. Momma always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.

OM.[/QUOTE]I tried to inform some senior mongers and they refuse to believe. I'm not trying to brag or expose anyone as I've not posted in then open forum and only to senior members. What is to gain by letting others know that certain services are available? I think that they get upset or feel jilted if it wasn't provided to them. There are fools out there that actually show these post and PM's to providers thinking that they are scoring points with them when I reality they are only marking themselves as mongers. I've hooked up and gotten many freebies and FORBIDDEN services from AMP girls by them NOT knowing that I post here. This site is to share info, not to defend the girls or call others liars. Monger safe!

[QUOTE=HMobius;2618646]I used to be a blood donor but quit once I became a monger. I can't abstain from hookers for 3 to 6 months.

Too much risk for poor Patient.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I know what you mean. If the blood bank has some hot nurse willing to offer FS after one donates a certain number of times, I bet they would get a line of guys waiting to "donate" and partake. Besides the beds they got is perfect for all types of positions!

Aloha mongers. Recently visited the local clinic for the annual safety inspection. Been in the fast lane lately and feeling just a shade of uncertainty tho I'm without any symptoms. Living on a neighbor island I am now caught in the 2 week holding period eagerly awaiting the call. Sigh, can't there be a quicker way? I searched on-line but I'm not convinced about the "at home" testing situation for the usual suspects (non-HIV). I'd be willing to pay a see-note for an expedited reply. Maybe there's a business model here for the young budding entrepreneur?

As said, no real symptoms and have always been covered on FS with providers (don't mind it actually). Counselor says "bravo" for that but I must admit, I am a huge DATY monger and I also enjoy BBBJ and DFK when they're on the menu. I try to exercise some discretion with those providers that appear sketch, but we all know there's no way to really know. I've read the posts. I know what I'm diving into and I'll live with it, but 2 weeks? Sigh.

My biggest thing right now is dodging the little lady at home until I can be certain. Maybe I need to re-think my hobby a little, establish a regular trusted provider or two (is there such a thing? I'm hoping for negative results across my board so I can escape my paranoia and get back to normal sleep patterns.

Be safe lads. APL.

[QUOTE=Buster50;2599529]All I know is that the last 5 girls I have been with have let me BBFS from the first to the 3rd visit. 3 CIP and they are popular. I play the roulette wheel and get tested regularly. 2 were Empire girls and last 2, rejuve and roses. No girl out there only does CFS. You are fooling yourselves.[/QUOTE]I don't care about BBFS. If that's your thing good. If offered I always ask for condom anyway. Problem is I've done BBFS twice in an AMP briefly with providers and I didn't even want to, damn condom fell off inside of them. Dammit. One recently and am waiting for tests to come back just in case.