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I moved this to the general thread where I thought it might be more appropriate.
[QUOTE=Looking #1]Yes for any reason I will be arrested on a treaspassing charge.
I have a very noticable car, One day last year the had an ULE sitting in the park near Tigoa looking for vehicles driving around. Well I drove by one to many times and got pulled over (No Girl in car). After checking for wants and warrants they came back to the vehicle had me get out for a photo and was issued an exclustion order. Since I live about 25 miles away the is no legit reason for begin on the Ave and they know I was there for a girl or drugs (LE words not mine). After checking with a laywer, He stated the only way I can get it lifted it to go before a Judge and explain why I was there (Not worth the hassle). The order will expire in two years on it's own. These orders have been used in other state's mostly on known girl's to get them off the street without actually witnessing any thing.
And with Nutter and the new Chief in charge now I bet there will be more issued by LE. I just don't want to get arrested on a treaspassing charge and have to go thru the hassle of going to court or explain it at work if they find out.
I need to get a cheaper mongering car that will blend's in once it expire's.
I hoped this explained it.[/QUOTE]
If I were you I’d be looking for another lawyer (not a cheaper car).
You are an American citizen. What does that mean? I am not sure, but; if it does not mean that you have the right to travel in, through and around public areas – what’s the point. If what you’ve outlined are all of the facts. I would fight it as a matter of principal.
True story. Twenty, maybe twenty-five years ago, when I’d have trouble sleeping, I’d get up and walk around the neighborhood. I would do this sometimes at 2 or 3am. I’d walk for maybe one or two hours, around Germantown. One morning the cops stopped me, checked me out and gave me a very polite warning. They said that a lot of pipers and no good nicks were out at that time of the morning and it was not a good idea for me to be out walking by myself. My family and friends agreed with the cops. But I figured that I was not going to let the dopers stop me from doing something I liked. Gradually I notice that what the cops had said was true, so I got scared and stopped walking the streets late/early in the morning. Now, when I cannot sleep, I get in my car and drive. Some times I drive for hours. I have been doing this for years. Sometimes I have a destination in mind and other times I just drive to nowhere and turn around and come back. Now you want to tell me that this may be unlawful. No way. I’d fight it.
I am a law abiding tax payer. I have not record. I have not been arrested or charged. No way I am not going to drive anywhere it’s legal I didn’t let the dopers stop me (at first) I wouldn’t let the cops stop me now. Besides, how does one trespass in a public area? They sell drugs on damn near every corner of Philadelphia (that’s an exaggeration). And, there are girls for sale, everywhere. Using the criteria they gave you, you could be arrested for going to city hall
I have been stopped with a girl in the car. I said nothing. They took the girl. One of the cops said I should be a shame of myself. No ticket (all of my papers were in order), no citations, no nothing. And my home address is outside of Philly (I do own property inside of Philly but they didn’t know that).
How is this for a good reason: I like to drive around when I cannot sleep, it releases the stress.
CookyJar
PS: I am not saying that you should fight it. I am saying I would fight it to the Supreme Court. And I would be looking for an apology. But then, I am an asshole.
[QUOTE=CookyJar]I moved this to the general thread where I thought it might be more appropriate.
If I were you I’d be looking for another lawyer (not a cheaper car).
You are an American citizen. What does that mean? I am not sure, but; if it does not mean that you have the right to travel in, through and around public areas – what’s the point. If what you’ve outlined are all of the facts. I would fight it as a matter of principal.
True story. Twenty, maybe twenty-five years ago, when I’d have trouble sleeping, I’d get up and walk around the neighborhood. I would do this sometimes at 2 or 3am. I’d walk for maybe one or two hours, around Germantown. One morning the cops stopped me, checked me out and gave me a very polite warning. They said that a lot of pipers and no good nicks were out at that time of the morning and it was not a good idea for me to be out walking by myself. My family and friends agreed with the cops. But I figured that I was not going to let the dopers stop me from doing something I liked. Gradually I notice that what the cops had said was true, so I got scared and stopped walking the streets late/early in the morning. Now, when I cannot sleep, I get in my car and drive. Some times I drive for hours. I have been doing this for years. Sometimes I have a destination in mind and other times I just drive to nowhere and turn around and come back. Now you want to tell me that this may be unlawful. No way. I’d fight it.
I am a law abiding tax payer. I have not record. I have not been arrested or charged. No way I am not going to drive anywhere it’s legal I didn’t let the dopers stop me (at first) I wouldn’t let the cops stop me now. Besides, how does one trespass in a public area? They sell drugs on damn near every corner of Philadelphia (that’s an exaggeration). And, there are girls for sale, everywhere. Using the criteria they gave you, you could be arrested for going to city hall
I have been stopped with a girl in the car. I said nothing. They took the girl. One of the cops said I should be a shame of myself. No ticket (all of my papers were in order), no citations, no nothing. And my home address is outside of Philly (I do own property inside of Philly but they didn’t know that).
How is this for a good reason: I like to drive around when I cannot sleep, it releases the stress.
CookyJar
PS: I am not saying that you should fight it. I am saying I would fight it to the Supreme Court. And I would be looking for an apology. But then, I am an asshole.[/QUOTE]
Well Put, I guess I'am just a wimp about :)
[QUOTE=CookyJar]I moved this to the general thread where I thought it might be more appropriate.
If I were you I’d be looking for another lawyer (not a cheaper car).
You are an American citizen. What does that mean? I am not sure, but; if it does not mean that you have the right to travel in, through and around public areas – what’s the point. If what you’ve outlined are all of the facts. I would fight it as a matter of principal.
True story. Twenty, maybe twenty-five years ago, when I’d have trouble sleeping, I’d get up and walk around the neighborhood. I would do this sometimes at 2 or 3am. I’d walk for maybe one or two hours, around Germantown. One morning the cops stopped me, checked me out and gave me a very polite warning. They said that a lot of pipers and no good nicks were out at that time of the morning and it was not a good idea for me to be out walking by myself. My family and friends agreed with the cops. But I figured that I was not going to let the dopers stop me from doing something I liked. Gradually I notice that what the cops had said was true, so I got scared and stopped walking the streets late/early in the morning. Now, when I cannot sleep, I get in my car and drive. Some times I drive for hours. I have been doing this for years. Sometimes I have a destination in mind and other times I just drive to nowhere and turn around and come back. Now you want to tell me that this may be unlawful. No way. I’d fight it.
I am a law abiding tax payer. I have not record. I have not been arrested or charged. No way I am not going to drive anywhere it’s legal I didn’t let the dopers stop me (at first) I wouldn’t let the cops stop me now. Besides, how does one trespass in a public area? They sell drugs on damn near every corner of Philadelphia (that’s an exaggeration). And, there are girls for sale, everywhere. Using the criteria they gave you, you could be arrested for going to city hall
I have been stopped with a girl in the car. I said nothing. They took the girl. One of the cops said I should be a shame of myself. No ticket (all of my papers were in order), no citations, no nothing. And my home address is outside of Philly (I do own property inside of Philly but they didn’t know that).
How is this for a good reason: I like to drive around when I cannot sleep, it releases the stress.
CookyJar
PS: I am not saying that you should fight it. I am saying I would fight it to the Supreme Court. And I would be looking for an apology. But then, I am an asshole. [/QUOTE]If Looking was just looking, he'd have grounds to contest the "exclusion order. " Nothing illegal about just looking, or just reading for that matter. Deriving pleasure or whatever from seeing women on the street is no crime, even if they are plying a trade. It's a crime to hire them, not to watch them.
It sounds wrong that the cops--rather than a magistrate or judge--could issue an order requiring you to stay away from some place. An order is something for a magistrate or judge to issue after a hearing. If Looking feels like fighting, he should give the ACLU a call. This sounds very dubious. The right to travel where you want is protected by the constitution.
OTOH, if Looking was interested in more than just looking, he's probably best off keeping his mouth shut.
Most likely, Looking has been placed on a list of people they will really come down on hard if he actually gets busted with drugs or hookers in the next two years. But, as far as I know, frequenting a bad part of town is not a crime, unless the constitution has really changed under W. Driving aimlessly under the El is no crime, and it doesn't become one until you actually do something, no matter what you might be _thinking_ about.
[QUOTE=Looking #1]Well Put, I guess I'am just a wimp about :)[/QUOTE]
No! You're not being a wimp. You're just being safe.
Anyone else have an opinion of the legality of Looking #1's plight
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Nonymous] If Looking feels like fighting, he should give the ACLU a call. This sounds very dubious. The right to travel where you want is protected by the constitution.
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Unless he gave them some reason to believe that he intented to commit a crime. If he admitted or was tricked into saying he was looking for a girl for hire, he'd have a problem.
What about the photo. I would not have let them take my picture, unless I was under arrest. And then I would only let them take it inside of the station.
The same thing goes for searching my car (I know they didn't search Looking's car), no searches without a warrant. Oh! Sure they can search anyway, but I wouldn't give my permission.
There is a list or a link, that shows what a citizen should do when stopped by the police - maybe someone should post it.
CookyJar
CookyJar
I'm a long time lurker, wanna be monger. The link below is to a youtube video to surviving police encounters it's a little long. Hope it's useful.
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA[/url]
There is also a great deal of information on their website:
[url]http://www.flexyourrights.org/traffic_stop_scenario[/url]
Be safe
Demon
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[QUOTE=CookyJar]Unless he gave them some reason to believe that he intented to commit a crime. If he admitted or was tricked into saying he was looking for a girl for hire, he'd have a problem.
What about the photo. I would not have let them take my picture, unless I was under arrest. And then I would only let them take it inside of the station.
The same thing goes for searching my car (I know they didn't search Looking's car), no searches without a warrant. Oh! Sure they can search anyway, but I wouldn't give my permission.
There is a list or a link, that shows what a citizen should do when stopped by the police - maybe someone should post it.
CookyJar
CookyJar[/QUOTE]
I never said anything other than it was a nice day and I was driving around to get out of the house and get some fresh air. They informed me that it is a high drug and prostitution area.
Your right they did not search or ask to search my car other than looking through the windows to find PC which would give them the right to search.
With Glenn in Miami commenting I guess I am now the talk of this broad.
I would like to thank everyone for there support and comment's.
Looking elsewhere (for now) #1
Hey guys, out of town senior member from Florida visiting your fair city.
I'm at a hotel on Race near 13th, without a vehicle. Any mongering possibilities in that general area in walking distance? I'm considering an AMP, but am more of a SW dude myself.
If you have any favorites, I have a hotel room at your disposal if you'd like to co-op tonight (one at a time of course).
[QUOTE=Mwminfl2001]Hey guys, out of town senior member from Florida visiting your fair city.
I'm at a hotel on Race near 13th, without a vehicle. Any mongering possibilities in that general area in walking distance? I'm considering an AMP, but am more of a SW dude myself.
If you have any favorites, I have a hotel room at your disposal if you'd like to co-op tonight (one at a time of course).[/QUOTE]
Is that the 'W-hotel' or thereabouts? You are right behind the convention center right? If so you are right at the edge of Chinatown, there are quite a few AMP right within a 3 block radius of you. Pretty much ground zero for the AMP's. Get thee over to the 'Philadelphia AMP forum', do a little homework (RTFT) pay particular attention to the 'CH2' thread and make a trip (locale on p.9 of thread). .6 for the house $ for the girl. This is standard rate around here, get it all including the 'special'. CH2 is the standard all other AMP's in Philly are measured against, it will be a shame to have come all this way and not pay a visit to CH2. Thoroughly read the threads for all the info you might want/need, requesting contact info on the few gems around here tend to get testy responses to your queries...RTFT!!!
It's been a bit but you can also check the free newspaper available everywhere (philadelphia weekly and citypaper) to see if they have listings. Again the AMP forum is a invaluable resource, be sure to look it up. sexadelphia.com can point you toward overpriced escorts if you wish (some might be on this site also).
As for SW...I dunno about Center City..unless you are looking for dudes in the gayborhood. I have never come across or know of any in center city, perhaps the more seasoned vets here have more insight than I do but I've never come across it. You are simply too far away to check out the 'K' or Camdens 'Broadway'.
Seeing that you dont have a vehicle your options will likely be limited to center city, where you are tends to get dead after business hours, all the fun, clubs, watering holes and festivites tend to happen the other side of Market street.
strip club...the only one of any note where where you are is 'the gold club', 1400 block of chancellor street. I've not been in a while but I hear told it's okay, dunno about extras or take-out tho. If you have the inclination go to the website (worldfamousgoldclub.com), print yourself the free pass and check it out.
good luck, have fun, be safe.
hopefully you have a map to help situate yourself.
[QUOTE=Iorek]Is that the 'W-hotel' or thereabouts? You are right behind the convention center right? If so you are right at the edge of Chinatown, there are quite a few AMP right within a 3 block radius of you. Pretty much ground zero for the AMP's. Get thee over to the 'Philadelphia AMP forum', do a little homework (RTFT) pay particular attention to the 'CH2' thread and make a trip (locale on p.9 of thread). .6 for the house $ for the girl. This is standard rate around here, get it all including the 'special'. CH2 is the standard all other AMP's in Philly are measured against, it will be a shame to have come all this way and not pay a visit to CH2. Thoroughly read the threads for all the info you might want/need, requesting contact info on the few gems around here tend to get testy responses to your queries...RTFT!!!
It's been a bit but you can also check the free newspaper available everywhere (philadelphia weekly and citypaper) to see if they have listings. Again the AMP forum is a invaluable resource, be sure to look it up. sexadelphia.com can point you toward overpriced escorts if you wish (some might be on this site also).
As for SW...I dunno about Center City..unless you are looking for dudes in the gayborhood. I have never come across or know of any in center city, perhaps the more seasoned vets here have more insight than I do but I've never come across it. You are simply too far away to check out the 'K' or Camdens 'Broadway'.
Seeing that you dont have a vehicle your options will likely be limited to center city, where you are tends to get dead after business hours, all the fun, clubs, watering holes and festivites tend to happen the other side of Market street.
strip club...the only one of any note where where you are is 'the gold club', 1400 block of chancellor street. I've not been in a while but I hear told it's okay, dunno about extras or take-out tho. If you have the inclination go to the website (worldfamousgoldclub.com), print yourself the free pass and check it out.
good luck, have fun, be safe.
hopefully you have a map to help situate yourself.[/QUOTE]
Thanks my friend, you've restored my faith in the "city of brotherly love" with the fast and useful advice.
I did indeed RTFF and ended up visiting an AMP. I love the thrill of the street, but too out of my element to hang with the big boys. I'll post my review in the AMP section in a few minutes.
Again, I appreciate the help to a "useless" (my words) visitor to your area.
If you're ever in the Tampa area, send me a message and I'm sure I can point you to some experiences that will knock your socks off.
I seem to remember taking a walk through a sex shop on 21st/22nd and market and there being a private room on the 3rd floor or something that you can rent by the hour. I believe there were couches, pole, general fun stuff. Anyone know what I'm talking about, have any experience? Any other suggestions on where to take a date for an hour in center city?
I'm seeing posts referring to a Lisa (sometimes 2 Lisa's) so I have to ask.
Nearly 10 years ago there was a provider (real old lady but ok body, A-cups) named Ivy (Malaysian) who brought a 19 y.o. Thai/Laotian girl named Kitty (may have went by Angel) to Philly. Nice naturals, tattoo on one of them, you could tell she would put on some weight in a few years though.
They all stayed in a townhouse on 6th & Jackson (no longer there) with a relative named "Lisa" (not the Lisa I'm looking for).
I brought my buddy up to Philly to make a video with a girl and the aforementioned 3 offered the pictured Cambodian Lisa (this is the one I'm looking for). She may have been either a provider of stripper at the time. They all were somehow involved in that type of business.
She was great and since I didn't nail her that day, I've been thinking about doing her ever since. Went to 6th & Jackson a couple years back, new renters.
If this rings a bell to anybody, please PM me with any leads you may have. As a gratuity I'll share with you a video snippet of Lisa giving my buddy a BBBJ
Dog,
The place is les gals. $.05 to enter and can get a hj for $. Used to have more on menu but hj is about it now. Can spend extra $ to go downstairs to loung room for more time. this place has a few 8's but ymmv on the selection of girls
Center City Massage Parlor Busted For Prostitution
Mary Stoker Smith PHILADELPHIA (CBS 3) ― Philadelphia police arrested four women at a Center City massage parlor Thursday and charged them with prostitution following an investigation.
According to police, the suspects were taken into custody at about 1:30 p.m. while working at a massage parlor at 1235 Vine Street. Members of the Vice Squad executed a warrant following an investigation into alleged prostitution taking place at that address.
Police began their investigation after neighbors complained of suspicious activity.
"This particular one we've hit before, unfortunately they were up and running again, so we hit them again and we are going to try to close them and hopefully this time it will be permanently," Chief Inspector Bill Colarulo said.
Investigators said the business advertised in the Philadelphia City Paper under the name "RainBow". The ad suggested patrons can receive a "body shampoo" and "total relaxation".
"We do believe that a lot of these massage parlors are connected in some way or another, especially when you have certain blocks in the city where you have multiple massage parlors on the same block," Colarulo said.
Another woman inside the business fainted during the raid and was taken to local hospital for treatment.
Officials from the city's Licenses and Inspections Department shut the building down late Thursday afternoon.
The suspects have charged with prostitution and other related offenses.