The Woodshed

[QUOTE=Luknaround;2295146]I had a guy come in off the street to where I work and said "I seen where you are hiring" he had in pants hanging under his ass, a ball cap angled sideways and a t shirt twice the size it should be. He then says to me, let me AX youse a question, do you all have something I can do. I said no walking, talking and looking like you do, this is a place of business, not a street corner. Am I a racist? Oh before you answer, the dude was white. I have worked with several professional articulate and good work ethic AA- both men and women. I have worked with some that weren't. Both black and white. Thugs are thugs, color doesn't matter. You dress like, talk like, walk like a thug, there is no business going to hire you. Just saying.[/QUOTE]Luk.

Awwww man you should've given M & M a chance, yo. He could've had mad skills, you know what I'm sayin, yo?

Did you at least ax him if he mongers?

[blue]This thing, this thing right here is why we normally shut conversations like these down, and why I am shutting this one down as of today. No it is not funny and it's why Jackson says that this subject can't be discussed reasonably on the forum. I know this was intended to be a play on the quoted post but while the OP made a point, this post just plays on the racial stereotype.

Change the subject, any further posts on this topic will be deleted and the member who posts about it will be place on moderation.

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The former discussion had me receive a number of PMs from one of the most racist and bigoted members I have ever come across here.

All I can say is I should have blocked the dumb jackXXX when I got the first idiotic PM. Don't waste time arguing and feeding their delusions, just block them!!

Had totally forgotten we can do that!!

My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.

[QUOTE=OnFire2864;2305458]Thanks Fish I know there were other reviews of her but on this phone I have its not allowing me to search for them but tried on my tablet and was able to. A lot of the reviews were from newbies who actually saw her. If she is actually Jen like a few days it is then I will pass. Saw her back in the day and was not impressed at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305598]My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.[/QUOTE]I have not received the coveted senior status but my cash spends like everyone else. Spice is the variety of life and I just try to share my experiences good or bad maybe help other forum make wise decisions. We all have opinions and that is what I thought this forum was about. I have been doing this many years in many states. I could easily sit back and enjoy the intel without ever making a post. I thought were all here to help each other out. Thats why I signed up.

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305598]My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true non senior member!! Hahaaaaaaaaaa.

Just busting your chops. Actually you should have just told everyone to look at what the reqs are to become a senior member, then everyone will know its not all that.

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305598]My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.[/QUOTE]This is why I keep my gems to myself. I confirmed the Super Italian Agatha was legit and was basically blown off because I was brand new to posting on this forum. Had I known that only senior members know if a girl is any good I would of just kept the info to myself, like I'm doing now.

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305598]My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.[/QUOTE]Not sure why the blanket broadcast to all Senior members, I had nothing but kind words for Gina.

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305598]My first comment / hope is to leave all this senior / regular member qualifications shit where it belongs, in the trash and not on here.

This is a forum to exchange ideas, knowledge and safety concerns for all of us who partake in the hobby. It's not an exclusive club or the cool kids table in the cafeteria. All you have to do to be senior is hang around for awhile and throw a few posts out there, it is not an enlightening coronation or winning an election.

Why don't you look at the number of posts and the quality of posts that anyone on here, regardless of member status, has provided? Isn't that the best gauge of a poster's merits? It seems to me that a lot of good information has been provided by so called newbies for the benefit of all of us. When I achieve senior status, I will continue to share my experiences with all and answer any PM that I get, regardless of status. I believe the spirit of this forum is to promote exactly that!

As for Gina, she is on a break for 10 days to see family out of town. It is not her in the pics. Big deal, they are very close and this is NOT new news. There is plenty of documentation on this site that she had issues in the past but has reformed her ways. She is my ATF and many others as well. It's a great experience and great value for the investment but for you guys that can't get past the pic thing or her behavior prior to getting cleaned up, fine-she is so busy that she really is only taking regulars now anyway and there are plenty of other fake pic chicks for you guys to go explore and complain about.

Suit.[/QUOTE]The only problem I have with anything you said is having a problem with us not liking to go into a situation knowing it's not the girl in the pics. I think most of us like one less variable in these situations and at the very least, want to know what the car I'm renting looks like. So it is a big deal. Now if I've seen her before, than I could see your point but I don't feel comfortable seeing any provider using fake pics. But everything else, I'm with ya buddy.

How many of the ads posted on BP are actual photos of the providers? I would really like some feedback on this question.

My experiences would be maybe 20% of the time it's a pic of the actual girl. If you factor in highly flattering poses that hide noticeable weight gain or baby damage, the percentage probably falls to 10%.

And still I see ads with pics of known supermodels posing as providers, my assumption is that if they are still up, men are using their services and taking what ever answers the door. You can always walk away but at least in my schedule, I've alloted this play time and the anticipation factor usually wins over consumer outrage. Usually there is some resemblance but afterwards I vow, like most of us, to stick with my regulars.

My point is that isn't it the norm to expect to be hoodwinked on the pics? I'm all for sharing information on how accurate the pics are, especially if there is a huge deviation from what you see and what you get. And you can always walk away as many mongers have pointed out on this very forum. But I would rather TOFTT and share a good experience or report on a bad one, either way helping all of us, even seniors LOL!

[QUOTE=Anonymous123;2305839]The only problem I have with anything you said is having a problem with us not liking to go into a situation knowing it's not the girl in the pics. I think most of us like one less variable in these situations and at the very least, want to know what the car I'm renting looks like. So it is a big deal. Now if I've seen her before, than I could see your point but I don't feel comfortable seeing any provider using fake pics. But everything else, I'm with ya buddy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YoungRestless;2304083]I have seen the very evil side of a provider who once they have certain info on you they will use it against you. I've had providers contact clients' spouses ratting them out because of some misunderstanding. But if you are comfortable, do your thing my friend! I've read where some guys say they send a picture of someone else that looks familiar. I think I'd do that but never my own picture. I can tell you some stories even about how dirty some very well known local providers are.[/QUOTE]Restless, I can understand why some would be fearful of sending pictures and it's not something I normally do but have in certain circumstances when I thought it was worth the trouble that I could possibly encounter. I'm not married so that is a non factor for me. Other than a provider working with LEO or perhaps posting the picture on line, why they'ed even want to is beyond me, I don't see a lot of down side in it for me. As I stated earlier, some of the best providers I've ever seen, this is after almost thirty years in this hobby, have requested photo's! But everyone has to decide for themselves what their comfort level will allow them to do, I personally don't have an issue with sending a beautiful woman a picture of myself. JD.

[QUOTE=SuitMan;2305876]How many of the ads posted on BP are actual photos of the providers? I would really like some feedback on this question.

My experiences would be maybe 20% of the time it's a pic of the actual girl. If you factor in highly flattering poses that hide noticeable weight gain or baby damage, the percentage probably falls to 10%.

And still I see ads with pics of known supermodels posing as providers, my assumption is that if they are still up, men are using their services and taking what ever answers the door. You can always walk away but at least in my schedule, I've alloted this play time and the anticipation factor usually wins over consumer outrage. Usually there is some resemblance but afterwards I vow, like most of us, to stick with my regulars.

My point is that isn't it the norm to expect to be hoodwinked on the pics? I'm all for sharing information on how accurate the pics are, especially if there is a huge deviation from what you see and what you get. And you can always walk away as many mongers have pointed out on this very forum. But I would rather TOFTT and share a good experience or report on a bad one, either way helping all of us, even seniors LOL![/QUOTE]Once again, I mostly agree with you bro. But I for one, DON'T expect the girl in the photo to be a TOTALLY different person. Now I due understand those pictures probably caught them at the best possible time in their lives, but I still expect it to be a less glorified version of the pictures. LOL. I've seen many a provider, alot of them I haven't posted on here. But there were a couple that were not who was in advertisement and I got too freaked out and just left. Cause if you lie about that, what else could be waiting for me. It's just my opinion and paranoia from being robbed multiple times. But I'm freaking addicted. LOL.

[QUOTE=JaxDog;2305901]Restless, I can understand why some would be fearful of sending pictures and it's not something I normally do but have in certain circumstances when I thought it was worth the trouble that I could possibly encounter. I'm not married so that is a non factor for me. Other than a provider working with LEO or perhaps posting the picture on line, why they'ed even want to is beyond me, I don't see a lot of down side in it for me. As I stated earlier, some of the best providers I've ever seen, this is after almost thirty years in this hobby, have requested photo's! But everyone has to decide for themselves what their comfort level will allow them to do, I personally don't have an issue with sending a beautiful woman a picture of myself. JD.[/QUOTE]Personally, I plan on stepping out of this game soon and I don't want any loose ends tying me back to this hobby. If you are single, that is one factor that might cause you to not hesitate in sending someone a picture. Obviously if you are married, I would think one would hesitate in sending that type of information. You know, some of these girls (especially so called high end ones) want a lot of personal info on you (the guys) but I wonder will they provide you with the same info on themselves. It seems it's more a one way thing on their part. I can only speak for me though. I am just not that comfortable. If it was a dating site, I'd have no problem sharing a picture or 2; however, because of the nature of this business (hooking), I must exercise as much discretion as possible. Not only because of a spouse situation but job, other family members, and a host of other things. I was looking at CL before and apparently some guy sent a provider a picture of himself. It appears he must have pissed them off because they took his picture and place it on an ad telling people about him. It is this vindictive nature of people that would cause me much hesitation. Anyway, again, individual preference in these things.

I have answered several PM's from Regular members after I have read the quality of their posts. It's more about sharing with members who share good quality reviews than anything. Sometimes the hesitancy to respond to Regular members with details is because It is so easy for LEO to create a name, throw a couple BS posts in and get the good info on providers they shouldn't have info on. The converse is true also I am sure. Any member with some posts and time on their side gets elevated to Senior status. LEO or not. Whose to say we aren't providing vital information to LEO just because it says he is a senior member.

Many of the long time senior members that really provided some great info have quit the hobby, found someone, or just got tired of the crap. Best thing is read their posts, compare them with the same providers you have seen, that's who you can trust. If it is an active Regular member and they have similar interests as you and similar posts as you. That's a better indicator than just checking to see if they are a Senior Member or not.