Four-hand AMP massage: pros and cons
[QUOTE=FredBurgMike;2458881]Just curious if anyone has done the four hand massage that many of the local AMPs are now offering. I have thought about giving it a try but not sure it is worth the money. Just wondering what you guys think.[/QUOTE]Good question and would be interested in hearing from other members about their thoughts and experiences (best vs worst, AMP vs independent).
Let's take the cons first:
While some AMP girls deliver a pretty good massage, most aren't hired for their massage skills. Unless you've enjoyed a massage from both girls before, you're rolling the dice as far as the quality is concerned.
If one or both aren't very good, or if they're out of sync, or if they have very different styles, it probably won't live up to your expectations or the price you paid.
Since you're booking two girls for a full session, they usually want and expect a full tip (ex. 40 each). A client who only tips at their regular level in total (ex. 20 each) may think that's appropriate but should understand, from the masseuses' point of view, they may be seen as a cheapskate and that perception may affect future visits.
If the house fee isn't discounted, then that's more $ you've got in the game. If the session is underwhelming, your buyer's remorse will likely be higher.
As other seniors have noted, the offer may be nothing more than a lame marketing gimmick to get you to visit the AMP and you may be told they're too busy to do four-hand.
IME (and this is the biggest negative for me), with rare exceptions, AMP girls are less adventurous when there's another masseuse in the room. One simple reason for that is they see each other every day and AMP girls are notorious gossips about clients and each other. So a girl who, when she's alone with you, might allow UTC roaming or be open to oral options, may not be willing to go that far when one of her friends (or rivals) is present. That's not to say that surprises can't happen, but (IMHO) the odds are against it. Along those same lines, I think an AMP girl would be less likely to give you her private digits in that situation.
Pros:
If you've never done four-hand, it can be a lot of fun and a very different experience as long as you don't let your expectations get too high.
If the AMP is offering a significant discount on the house fee, it may be worth taking the plunge (but don't let yourself be tagged as a bad tipper).
It's not a bad way to check out the talent for future visits if it's a place you haven't visited before.
A nice massage but insane upselling. (Nadia)
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/thai-relaxation-therapy-in-falls-church-tysons-corner-vienna/15439964[/URL]
She made me wait a few minutes even though we agreed to a time. She barely spoke to me. The massage was decent. The flip was okay. There was an insane $100 upsell just to see something very standard. I opted not to pay because I am not crazy! She is pretty though. I wouldn't be seeing her again because of the upsell.
TOFTT with Tonya. Waste of time and $
[URL]http://nova.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/find-full-relaxtion-with-tonya/17751374[/URL]
Saw Tonya's ad in the regular BP massage section and did an image search which showed that the pic in the ad was used in a past escort ad with good reviews on the oThER site. She texted that her massage prices were 120 for the hr which is what many FBSM providers charge so I decided to TOFTT.
Location was an upstairs studio in a private house in an OK neighborhood in Falls Church. Woman wasn't close to what was portrayed in the pic but I decided to give the massage a try. That wasn't worth much either, unfortunately. Scented oil and mediocre technique and as we got to the end and the conversation turned to the topic of whether a finish was available she said "my agency won't allow that".
Agency? Really? WTF! I don't know if that part was true or BS but, either way, she's not worth anyone's time or money, IMHO.
Nice find driving South on 29
Had to drive South of normal hunting ground of and. VA, down route 29 for a meeting. Stopped off in Warrington at a see. AMP. On the way and was very pleasantly surprised! Place was Vivi Spa. Dreamt I met a beautiful young, 20's something that was sweet, fun, charming, warm and affectionate GFE type. Even though it was not in NOVA, it was a NOVA finish that was very pleasant. Anna said she got there a week ago from Penn. Treat her nice and she will treat you nice. Good massage, etc. IMO, much better quality than typical NoVA AMP.
Keep safe,
Happy Guy 2.
I posted here since it is 1 HR. Away and the Warrenton board is dead.
Advice? (long time lurker)
She's probably not serious, but I have a lady friend in NOVA who claims she'd be into an AMP experience. I've been to many. Any recommendations for one that might give her some fun?
Long time Lurkers and wives
[QUOTE=BashfulBob;2470400]She's probably not serious, but I have a lady friend in NOVA who claims she'd be into an AMP experience. I've been to many. Any recommendations for one that might give her some fun?[/QUOTE]I am surprised a "long time Lurker" would ask this question. Mongers and lurkers that actually read this board with frequency would have noted that those with limited / no posting history who ask for "actionable intel" without sharing any intel are frequently severely chastised (not be me, but by others).
FWIW. Yes, there are several locations in this area that are happy to accept / have women clients. The key to connecting your wife with one is for YOU to become a good customer. You need to establish a friendly business relationship with the MMS and staff at the place you patronize. Once you are known to be a good client (reliable, gentlemanly, appropriate tips left), you can talk to the manager / MMS about an appointment for your wife, and ask the MMS to recommend an appropriate Massage Technician (if you do not think the MT you've patronized would be amenable).
If your wife / you are actually interested in an AMP experience, it would likely take 4-5 appointments for you to become so established.
A shorter-term solution would be to patronize an independent advertiser on BP / CL. BP / CL listings frequently include information related to provider preferences related to gender -- but almost all BP / CL listings are a crap-shoot.
Whatever YOU do -- always be nice to the ladies.
PA.
3 photos
This one caught my eye but remain doubtful
Saw the advert for the redhead under BP Rublist. [URL]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-your-red-head-today-available-1-7-today-52815-incall-springfield/18011645[/URL].
A google search shows several other ads from 2014 with very trashy pictures.
[URL]http://www.*******************.com/443-637-2784/?id=16641502[/URL]
I love cheap and trashy women.
There was nothing by name or phone number in the other board and despite he claims to being an adult star her name draws a blank on the big x rated video sites.
Anyone share my craving for tatted up tarts?
Chinese Amy: waste of time and $
[URL]https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/thp/5049596357.html[/URL]
There are a few FBSM providers who post in either the BP or CL therapeutic sections and you can usually tell by their ads and their prices if they might be open to extras.
Saw this ad and gave a call, which was answered by Sophie who speaks good English and is apparently the boss. Made an appt with Amy and was directed to a nice apt complex in McLean.
Quick summary is that Amy is a cute 20's Chinese girl, despite the fake pic, who gives an OK massage and, while she said she was willing to do FBSM, her tip request was way out of line for this area. What she finally suggested was that I finish myself off and pay her. 6 for that privilege. Really, WTF?
Anyway, I gave her a quick rundown of prices in this area and explained politely that both the massage price and the requested tip were too high. She then proceeded to bad mouth other spas and lectured me about how rich guys are happy to pay her prices. Maybe that's an Asian shaming thing to try to get me to pay more? I don't know, but I refused all of it and tipped her. 2 for the massage.
After I left I called Sophie and told her the same info. She was more apologetic but then claimed that Amy shouldn't have offered any extras at all. I understand not wanting to discuss those topics on the phone so I didn't push it. But I did repeat that even the massage price of $/ hr was too high as there are plenty of legit places where a massage costs 40-60 per hour.
Bottom line is that FBSM was on the table (pun intended!) but price expectations were unreasonable. Lot's better out there for the $ and for less hassle.
Happy hunting and stay safe!
Getting Lucky with Jackie
On a recent Sunday afternoon I frequented a popular new spa in Springfield. Scarlett was seeing someone else so I drew "Jackie": long tight legs, a bit softer up top, pleasant smile, I'd say in her late 30's. Although the ample parking lot was pretty emptied when I showed up several door bell rings and phone calls followed so after; so I was Lucky to walk right in.
I asked Jackie for a hard massage with shower to follow (I had just walked out of a shower at home anyway). Massage was one of the best I've received in NoVa or NJ. Included back walking, pressure points down the thighs and legs, and a good hard backrub with her straddling me. Good use of elbows and her long hair. Jackie did not complain about some polite OTC fondling while she stood at the head of the table and rubbed cream across my back and buttocks. Hot towels finished the therapeutic session.
Soft touch was pleasant and not rushed. On the flip she required direction to find the right spot (a common security precaution). Jackie provided a competent finish but no extras. English is not her strong suit but she knew what I was asking for and declined firmly a couple times. Table shower was thorough and a nice way to end. My session lasted a bit more than the full hour and I paid a bit more than the usual (0. 8+0. 6) since I expect to go back.
I really needed a thorough massage and that's what I got. If I were in it mostly for the excitement I probably wouldn't roll the dice at any NoVa MP. Better to spend more with a K-girl agency and get what I came for.
Bluegems in Tysons Corner. Closed?
Hi All,
Anyone have the scoop on Bluegems in Tysons corner? Website has been down for about a week now, and no answer on phone. If they are closed, it will be a shame, as they always had high quality girls, mostly non-Asian.
Any recommendations for other places in / near Tysons, Dulles, Ashburn area? I prefer non-Asians. I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not given it a try yet.
Thanks for any insights.
LNM.
Bluegems in Tysons Corner
Anybody know what happened to BlueGems in Tysons Corner? Website has been down for a week now and no answer on phone line. If they closed, it would be disappointing as they always had very attractive girls.
Anybody have any recommendations for non-Asian massage in the Tysons, Ashburn, Dulles area? I have heard of Secret Temptations, but have not tried them yet.
Thanks for any insight.
LNM.