Massage Parlor Reports

Someone mentioned that Holiday changed management and was wondering whether the level of service has changed.

I stopped by Holiday on Wednesday, mid-afternoon. Place was reasonably quiet, I think there may have been one other customer there. I drew a late-20's, cute, provider whose English was considerably better than many. The massage was about average. I say that because I said hard when asked whether I wanted medium or hard. For me it was still a medium. So for the massage I would give it a 5. Looks, definitely a 7. No teasing while I was on my stomach. After the flip she got my attention. Asked whether oil would be ok? I said yes. She applied liberal amounts of oil via a spray bottle and then got to work. Maybe it was the abundance of oil, but it wasn't as stimulating as normal. When I said that I might have trouble, she switched strategies and started doing things with her hands that were extremely stimulating, things I am not accustomed to from other providers. I did not last long after that. She seemed pleased with the outcome. Ending started as a 4-5 but ended as an 8. Table shower removed all traces of oil everywhere but was not terribly sensual, 6. But the table shower is included in the 1 hour fee and she did not watch the clock, actually went over by about 5 or 10 minutes. Since there was never any mention of tips, I gave her. 5 on the way out.

Hi guys, This is my first time posting here. I keep seeing gentlemen posting that the rates they are paying is door fee + . 3 or. 4 dollars. I have been to 2 different establishments and both times the girls have been adamant about. 6 . Am I just getting overcharged or is it because its my first time or is. 6 the new price of 2015?

Thanks for any feedback.

[QUOTE=Jameson75;2358626]Hi guys, This is my first time posting here. I keep seeing gentlemen posting that the rates they are paying is door fee + . 3 or. 4 dollars. I have been to 2 different establishments and both times the girls have been adamant about. 6 . Am I just getting overcharged or is it because its my first time or is. 6 the new price of 2015?

Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE] .2 used to be the standard tip for a HE. Add more if you REALLY enjoyed the experience. Honestly, if they even start bringing up how much the tip should be, I pass on the extras. The last thing I want to do is start haggling and be taken out of "the moment. " I have noticed that the more establishments pop up in the area, the more arrogant these girls are getting. If they want to provide extras, then they should just do it and I will tip what I feel is appropriate. Otherwise, fuck off and have a nice day.

Don't let the attitude of this post make you think that I am a bad customer. I make sure to be very polite and cordial when I visit these AMPs and I never assume anything. I am always respectful. The problem is that the girls in this area are expecting the same amount of money for a HE as mongers in other cities are paying for FS, without any haggling to boot. Even if the only money they are making is the tip, $20 is good pay for an hour's worth of work, especially for a skill that can be learned and perfected in less than 6 months.

[QUOTE=Jameson75;2358626]Hi guys, This is my first time posting here. I keep seeing gentlemen posting that the rates they are paying is door fee + . 3 or. 4 dollars. I have been to 2 different establishments and both times the girls have been adamant about. 6 . Am I just getting overcharged or is it because its my first time or is. 6 the new price of 2015?

Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]I agree with spaceball1 post, the newbies hitting these places are wow I got a HJ for $40. Those that have made the rounds of these stores many many many times well I don't won't to use the word bored but we are looking for a good massage or a hot looking girl to go with this HJ, anything throw us a bone. You see it in some of the post, we get all Giddy when there is a nice looking girl out of 5 that is in the store. Yep these girls work you for the tip. There has to be more on the table for me to go past $40.

That's the truth of it. We all understate the importance in life of geography and the local market. The reality is geography is destiny. It applies to the quality of your work opportunities, the quality of the women, the relative quality of women you can get, and the quality of the providers.

In a big market like Toronto or NY, I could date 7's with a decent amount of effort and good game. Not easy, but it certainly wasn't rare. In the triangle, if I even meet a 7 it's a fucking celebration. And then she'll get swarmed by thirsty guys. 5's here think they are 8's, and adjust their selectivity accordingly. I'm talking asian girls here.

The same is true for providers. In Toronto or NY, one could get FS with decent early 30 year olds for under 100 total. Here it's a production just to get a HE, and dammit, the girls here are all 40+. Guaranteed. Why'all are just underrating their age.

It's the market we are in. I stopped by Asian Relax to check out this Monica who has been blowing up. Nice girl, probably mid 30's, but looks wise, she is just a 5. She's just young guys. I walked out. Then I checked out Superrelax on 54 to find the "short, busty, cute" girl. Have to say she gives the most amazing massage I've ever received in my life. But everything after the flip, and whatever extras there are, are pricey and not worth it.

Again, it's the market we are in. In 2015, one of my resos was to stop this hobby as long as I am living here. Just too many unfulfilling experiences. I broke it by visiting Superrelax, and boy do I regret it.

I'm out, and hopefully I don't come back.

[QUOTE=Genichi8;2359216]That's the truth of it. We all understate the importance in life of geography and the local market. The reality is geography is destiny. It applies to the quality of your work opportunities, the quality of the women, the relative quality of women you can get, and the quality of the providers.

In a big market like Toronto or NY, I could date 7's with a decent amount of effort and good game. Not easy, but it certainly wasn't rare. In the triangle, if I even meet a 7 it's a fucking celebration. And then she'll get swarmed by thirsty guys. 5's here think they are 8's, and adjust their selectivity accordingly. I'm talking asian girls here.

The same is true for providers. In Toronto or NY, one could get FS with decent early 30 year olds for under 100 total. Here it's a production just to get a HE, and dammit, the girls here are all 40+. Guaranteed. Why'all are just underrating their age.

It's the market we are in. I stopped by Asian Relax to check out this Monica who has been blowing up. Nice girl, probably mid 30's, but looks wise, she is just a 5. She's just young guys. I walked out. Then I checked out Superrelax on 54 to find the "short, busty, cute" girl. Have to say she gives the most amazing massage I've ever received in my life. But everything after the flip, and whatever extras there are, are pricey and not worth it.

Again, it's the market we are in. In 2015, one of my resos was to stop this hobby as long as I am living here. Just too many unfulfilling experiences. I broke it by visiting Superrelax, and boy do I regret it.

I'm out, and hopefully I don't come back.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way brother after I get back from traveling to L. A or NY. With a total different experience. Here seems watered down after going there. I'm putting more and more distance between my visits here now to somehow keep it fresh but it is also getting difficult because of the continued service and providers age.

Anyone found a body to body parlor or provider? I'd love a sexy massage with her body. Pm or reply if so.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=CatTech;2360075]Anyone found a body to body parlor or provider? I'd love a sexy massage with her body. Pm or reply if so.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been looking for that for years in the raleigh area but can't find it here. There is this place in Greensboro, glissant escape they give a half nuru. On the flip its almost no touching except for a HJ. The only real nuru I ever had was in florida, best time I ever had. Thats all the info I have, if someone has more info maybe they will share it with us.

[QUOTE=BrownRod;2360194]I've been looking for that for years in the raleigh area but can't find it here. There is this place in Greensboro, glissant escape they give a half nuru. On the flip its almost no touching except for a HJ. The only real nuru I ever had was in florida, best time I ever had. Thats all the info I have, if someone has more info maybe they will share it with us.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CatTech;2360075]Anyone found a body to body parlor or provider? I'd love a sexy massage with her body. Pm or reply if so.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have wondered if there was any real nuru sessions around here, I just assumed it was a pricey mark up for nothing special. If there are providers that are good that it would be great!

[QUOTE=Rexkwando17;2360558]I have wondered if there was any real nuru sessions around here, I just assumed it was a pricey mark up for nothing special. If there are providers that are good that it would be great![/QUOTE]Had a surprise nuru experience on the flip w / Cindy at VIP recently without any discussion about it. Delightful. $.

Rusty John.

Recent encounters.

Asia Remedy on 55. Went for the half hr and got around 30's lady. I was there for the HE so asked for medium. Lot if teasing after the first 10 minutes. More teasing on the flip. I sat up on the edge for the HE and moderate roaming UTC. Great First time exp.

Standard half hr rate and tip 40.

Atsu Garner also first time. Only one girl availability almost near closing time. Quiet over enthusiastic she was. I think late 30's. Not a looker maybe 6. Massage was good. Talks quiet a bit. Kind of turn off. I like quite providers. But allows roaming to a good extent. Almost UTC. Teasing was pretty good. On the flip was when the real action began. She sucked on my nipples. Then DFK. I sit up on the edge and more DFK. All UTC roaming without any resistance. Sucking on the Titties and FIV was also availed. Declined FS. It seems more might be available subsequent visits. Great experience.

Standard half hr. Tip 50.

Yucca.

First time visit. Drew Coco maybe 5. I guess Coco is the most used name. Medium Massage strength. Massage was not that great. I guess she got all the wrong spots for me. Was like the rub was very fast strokes. I was always of the opinion that sensual means slow. I guess everyone has a differrnt outlook. The tease was terrific. Technique was too good. Din't last for too long on the flip because of the tease.

Standard half hr rate. Tip 40.

Somehow I always have the most fun on first visits. I guess being East Indian I come across as a safe and non LE.

Happy Hobbying.

JB.

[QUOTE=RustyJohn;2361145]Had a surprise nuru experience on the flip w / Cindy at VIP recently without any discussion about it. Delightful. $.

Rusty John.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info John, much appreciated!

A) Is it still open?

B) if so, has anyone been there in the last couple of years.

I have been there a couple of times, but not in the last 10 years anyway. At the time, if was basically analogous to Esquire Health Club (now closed) in price and services, I. E. Overpriced compared to backpage but lots on the menu.

PM me if you like.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=GeniePants;2355144]On my one trip (so far) to Westgate, I got Mary, and yes, definitely a good time. I posted a report that's probably a few pages back.[/QUOTE]Visited Westgate a few days ago and saw Mary. I was a bit disappointed for the first time at this location. I know someone has to go answer the door when people come in but it seemed it was always mary and she left half a dozen times. Then I got shorted by at least 15 minutes. Massage was half ass too but as always YMMV.

[QUOTE=MHL63;2361920]A) Is it still open?

B) if so, has anyone been there in the last couple of years.

I have been there a couple of times, but not in the last 10 years anyway. At the time, if was basically analogous to Esquire Health Club (now closed) in price and services, I. E. Overpriced compared to backpage but lots on the menu.

PM me if you like.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been closed fora couple of years now.