Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=TMeister;4923939]All of America applauds Big Joe for his decision to have Senator Kamala Harris on the ticket as our next Vice President!

All you worthless Low IQ Deplorable have reason to be very scared of her. She's a former state prosecutor who will leave no stone unturned when it comes to bringing multiple charges against the Trump Crime Family and sending them ALL to prison SOON.

We love you, VP Harris! Kick that swampy Commie Trump ass in November, baby![/QUOTE]He's got dementia and she is just another Ghetto *****. Biden and Harris. Sniff and Blow 2020.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;4921546]"Lying eyes" is an apt phrase; that's the whole point of data and mathematical modeling.

I personally have only known 3 or 4 people infected with COVID, and I haven't known anyone who's died from it (though I do know of one hospitalization, which was more observational, not an ICU situation.) If I went on objective observation alone, I would say the pandemic response is completely overblown.

BUT: I'm a scientist. I learned many, many years ago that my subjective experience might not only not be the whole picture, but could even lead me to wrong conclusions. So I look at data, and I try to use the best theory I can to build predictive models out of that.

It does take a certain degree of training and education, learning to reject subjective experience in favor of data-driven models (my analogy has always been when Luke dons the blast shield helmet for lightsaber training, "use the Force, Luke!"), but long-term when you see actual results (like you build a device and it works!) you convert.

O.[/QUOTE]You edited my response, but that's ok. It was math and stuff from a non peer reviewed NBER paper you cited as evidence that protests, riots, etc after George Floyd murder didn't lead to a spike in China Virus cases. Many say that economics is more an art than a science. You can gather 100 of the most esteemed economists in the world and pay them to show with math and stuff how if you do A, B will be the result. Then pay them to show that if you do A, C will be the result. And though C is diametrically opposed to B, using math and stuff the esteemed economists will show that yes, B and C will be the result of A. Have to watch those with three hands very close.

Objective, subjective observation, anecdotal information is worthless as you stated. That's why I offered none. Spike in cases after protests saw a demographic shift in those hospitalized from the ages of 60+ to the ages of 20-40. Hospital stays were / are shorter in duration and deaths a fraction from where they were. That's hard data. Facts. Compiled by scientists, statisticians, etc. Data driven professionals. Read by my lying eyes. But maybe predictive models you cite as proof SDcst = γ0 + ∑ γ+ Xct β1 + Zst β2 + αc + τt + εsct.

COVID Growthcst, t-1 = γ0 + ∑ γ.

will lead one closer to the truth. But I doubt it. Models cited are used to support preconceived notions, to reinforce a belief system but not a truth

[QUOTE=NuGuy36;4922252]On Sunday, New Zealand marked 100 days without community transmission of COVID-19. From the first known case imported into New Zealand on February 26 to the last case of community transmission detected on May 1, elimination took 65 days.

New Zealand relied on three types of measures to get rid of the virus:

1. ongoing border controls to stop COVID-19 from entering the country.

2. a lockdown and physical distancing to stop community transmission.

3. case-based controls using testing, contact tracing and quarantine.

[I]"The whole Western World has terribly mismanaged this threat, and they're realizing this now," Mr. Baker said.

He said many leaders saw a false dichotomy between saving lives or saving their economies, when in fact businesses thrive best when they have certainty about things like diseases.[/I]

[URL]https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2020/0810/COVID-19-success-story-New-Zealand-hits-100-days-with-no-cases[/URL]

[URL]https://theconversation.com/100-days-without-covid-19-how-new-zealand-got-rid-of-a-virus-that-keeps-spreading-across-the-world-143672[/URL][/QUOTE]New Zealand only has 4.8 million people. That's half of the population of New York city. And it's an island and it's a rural economy.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4923932]Only the Low IQ grunt pigs from rural red state shitholes are voting for Trump. Racists are the only assholes that will vote for a blatant racist.

95% of the military both active and retired are proudly voting for Mighty Joe Biden. They want to serve under a Commander-In-Chief who respects the flag and the Constitution.

The military respects tough guys like Big Bad Joe, who is promising to take Fat Fuck Donnie behind the gym and beat the living shit out of him.

Military people do not respect a draft-dodging coward like Pussy Spurs Trump who mocks POWs like John McCain and just smiles and shrugs when Putin is putting bounties on our soldiers's heads.

Pussy Spurs Trump will pay the ultimate price for his treason.

Biden 2020.[/QUOTE]Recent polls within the military show 87% proudly support Donald Trump and all he has done for the military including several raises in pay they never got under Obama, but keep making up stories in your mind, I just hope you can handle it when Don gets re-elected because Kamala just sealed Bidens fate as loser.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4924807]Recent polls within the military show 87% proudly support Donald Trump and all he has done for the military including several raises in pay they never got under Obama, but keep making up stories in your mind, I just hope you can handle it when Don gets re-elected because Kamala just sealed Bidens fate as loser.[/QUOTE]Polls are pretty worthless. Only idiots and homebound folks do polls. I thought conservatives would like Harris because of her tough on crime past. I get a sense that the military community would rather not vote at all than to vote for Trump again and certainly won't switch to Biden. We'll have record low voter turnout that is for certain.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4924807]Recent polls within the military show 87% proudly support Donald Trump and all he has done for the military including several raises in pay they never got under Obama, but keep making up stories in your mind, I just hope you can handle it when Don gets re-elected because Kamala just sealed Bidens fate as loser.[/QUOTE]Your 87% support is bullshit.

Your "Obama never gave pay raises" is bullshit as well.

Now prove me wrong.

Of course you won't because of the simple fact that you're lying.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4924807]Recent polls within the military show 87% proudly support Donald Trump and all he has done for the military including several raises in pay they never got under Obama, but keep making up stories in your mind, I just hope you can handle it when Don gets re-elected because Kamala just sealed Bidens fate as loser.[/QUOTE]LOL more FAKE NEWS from the right wing Low IQ pieces of shit.

Nobody in uniform would ever support a draft-dodging coward like Trump. 99% of the guys in the military came from working class families who don't take kindly to crybaby trust fund kids who have their Daddy bribe a doctor to come up with a fake diagnosis to avoid the draft. That is the purest example of elitism and why the good guys in fatigues will NEVER be loyal to a chicken shit twat like that.

Plus, every active and retired military have the highest respect for POWs like John McCain and don't tolerate a anti-American SCUMBAG like Commie Donnie insulting him or his service to country.

Add it all up and 99% of our folks in uniform will be voting for Mighty Joe Biden. A legendary patriot and statesman who commands the highest respect from the armed forces and the American citizenry.

Biden 2020. You MAGA-Rat Deplorables are pieces of shit.

[QUOTE=SirDiscreet;4925064]Your 87% support is bullshit.

Your "Obama never gave pay raises" is bullshit as well.

Now prove me wrong.

Of course you won't because of the simple fact that you're lying.[/QUOTE]Not sure how the military voting posture is now, but from 1980-2010 when I was in the military and worked for DoD, it was overwhelmingly Republican, anywhere from 65%-78%. I assume 87% would be a stretch, given current military demographics. One important thing to understand is that Blacks and Hispanics in the military don't vote Democrat in as great a number as they do in the civilian world, mainly due to the conservative culture of the military. Most folks who've never served have a hard time grasping that. Not saying you do or don't, but that's been my experience.

[QUOTE=GetHintHere007;4924961]Polls are pretty worthless. Only idiots and homebound folks do polls. I thought conservatives would like Harris because of her tough on crime past. I get a sense that the military community would rather not vote at all than to vote for Trump again and certainly won't switch to Biden. We'll have record low voter turnout that is for certain.[/QUOTE]I have dozens of people in my family who are both active and retired military. They are ALL voting for Mighty Joe Biden.

NONE of them would be caught dead voting for a draft-dodging coward and pussy like Trump. That is considered TREASON.

The armed forces will breathe a sigh of relief when we get rid of the traitorous Commie Trump and they can proudly serve under patriotic leaders like President Biden and VP Harris.

[QUOTE=SirDiscreet;4925064]Your 87% support is bullshit.

Your "Obama never gave pay raises" is bullshit as well.

Now prove me wrong.

Of course you won't because of the simple fact that you're lying.[/QUOTE]Of course it's bullshit.

MAGA-Tards don't believe in provable facts. They only spew lies to fit their narrative. Lyin' Hannity and Cokehead Limbaugh taught them this.

Can't wait for Mighty Joe and Killer Kamala to wipe out these Low IQ Swamp Rats. Eradicate the plague wherever we find it.

Biden 2020. We're taking America back for the great Democrats who make this country worth fighting for.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4925380]LOL more FAKE NEWS from the right wing Low IQ pieces of shit.

Nobody in uniform would ever support a draft-dodging coward like Trump. 99% of the guys in the military came from working class families who don't take kindly to crybaby trust fund kids who have their Daddy bribe a doctor to come up with a fake diagnosis to avoid the draft. That is the purest example of elitism and why the good guys in fatigues will NEVER be loyal to a chicken shit twat like that.

Plus, every active and retired military have the highest respect for POWs like John McCain and don't tolerate a anti-American SCUMBAG like Commie Donnie insulting him or his service to country.

Add it all up and 99% of our folks in uniform will be voting for Mighty Joe Biden. A legendary patriot and statesman who commands the highest respect from the armed forces and the American citizenry.

Biden 2020. You MAGA-Rat Deplorables are pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]I have no doubt you were never in the military or you would've been killed by your own troops, that is, if you had ever served in a leadership position. Biden doesn't even command the respect of his own toilet paper.

[QUOTE=TMeister;4925380]LOL more FAKE NEWS from the right wing Low IQ pieces of shit.

Nobody in uniform would ever support a draft-dodging coward like Trump. 99% of the guys in the military came from working class families who don't take kindly to crybaby trust fund kids who have their Daddy bribe a doctor to come up with a fake diagnosis to avoid the draft. That is the purest example of elitism and why the good guys in fatigues will NEVER be loyal to a chicken shit twat like that.

Plus, every active and retired military have the highest respect for POWs like John McCain and don't tolerate a anti-American SCUMBAG like Commie Donnie insulting him or his service to country.

Add it all up and 99% of our folks in uniform will be voting for Mighty Joe Biden. A legendary patriot and statesman who commands the highest respect from the armed forces and the American citizenry.

Biden 2020. You MAGA-Rat Deplorables are pieces of shit.[/QUOTE]Interesting the idea's you have, but they are far from fact, most of the military loves Trump and what he has done to raise their pay, get them better equiptment and bring many of them home, I work with and meet military members of all branches every day, and not 1 has had anything good to say about biden, in fact they are scared of what he will to put their lives in danger. You act as though you speak for the military because you WANT them to agree with you when in fact recent polls show the military support Trump in a Landslide fashion.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;4925487]I have no doubt you were never in the military or you would've been killed by your own troops, that is, if you had ever served in a leadership position. Biden doesn't even command the respect of his own toilet paper.[/QUOTE]I served in the armed forces and fought for the Constitution and my country.

I wasn't a pussy piece of shit like you, who votes for draft dodging lying cowards like Crybaby Commie Donnie.

Me and the guys in my combat unit would waste any Low IQ twats who support traitorous scumbags like him.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4925517]You act as though you speak for the military because you WANT them to agree with you when in fact recent polls show the military support Trump in a Landslide fashion.[/QUOTE]100% FAKE NEWS as per the usual from a Low IQ Deplorable like you.

Like I already said, no sane or reasonable soldier would ever support a draft dodging coward and piece of shit like Pussy Spurs Trump. Uniformed folks HATE trust fund crybabies who do everything they can to avoid fighting for their country.

Mighty Joe Biden and Killer Kamala will regain the respect of the troops because they are really tough ass-kicking patriots who don't dodge drafts and fight like hell for America and the Constitution.

Check out this video of several of our top military brass expressing their honest views about Commie Trump. A worthless Deplorable like you will be crying like a little pussy after watching it:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUBBcr5CP3c[/URL]

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;4925517]Interesting the idea's you have, but they are far from fact, most of the military loves Trump and what he has done to raise their pay, get them better equiptment and bring many of them home, I work with and meet military members of all branches every day, and not 1 has had anything good to say about biden, in fact they are scared of what he will to put their lives in danger. You act as though you speak for the military because you WANT them to agree with you when in fact recent polls show the military support Trump in a Landslide fashion.[/QUOTE]Meh, you're both full of it. Neither of you have had enough interactions to know the pulse of the ENTIRE military community. I too interact with all mil branches daily in an environment where they can speak freely. Never heard anyone say they were scared of Biden as you put it. Tons of vocal trump support 2016-2018 but it's dead now. I've heard multiple Pro-Trumpers say they'd wish he would shut up and just work recently.

For the life of me I don't understand why military Trump supporters let him slide with the draft dodging. What he did is clear as day, no disputing it. Anyone want to explain that to me, why they are giving him a pass for that?