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I'm kind of new to this and I've only been with a few providers so I'm not that experiences in how normal it is for a girl to not get back to you, that sort of thing. There is a provider I've been really wanting to see. I called her once in Feb. And left a message but she never responded. A few days ago I called again, left a message. She didn't call back but a few hours later I called her again and she answered. We didn't really set up a time but she told me to call her in an hour. Soon after I started heading over to her location (general area) and I gave her a call. I couldn't remember exactly when I called the first time so I think I may have called a little over an hour later, it wasn't more than an hour and a half though. She didn't answer. I waited a bit and called a few more times spaced out over about an hour or so (until I had to head back to work). I'm just wondering if I should try calling again or if this girl is trying to tell me she doesn't want anything to do with me? Could I have offended her by being a bit late with my call? I know sometimes a girl just gets a bad vibe from you and they don't want to deal with you so I don't want to freak her out if I call again. And yes this girl is legit and well reviewed.

Also, how do you guys deal with figuring out pricing if they don't list all the prices? I may have offended her at the end of the call because I asked her how much it would be for a half hour. She did tell me how much though. I know they don't really like to discuss prices over the phone but if they don't list it you don't know how much you need to bring. Do you just bring extra money to the local with you and count it out there? In the past I just set the money on a table without saying anything. If I have to ask how much it is in person it seems the same as just asking over the phone and that way you don't have to be carrying extra $.

[QUOTE=Ellis61;1718978]Maybe if we were mind readers, but thanks for the link.[/QUOTE]You are welcome. Please feel free to PM me if you need help researching stuff.

[QUOTE=ThePantyRaider;1722467]How normal it is for a girl to not get back to you, that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]Standard answer number one: "it depends."

Read back through the archives and you'll see horror stories of phones blowing up on nightstands. So, you know the calls are coming in. Your goal is to not call so often that your number is noticed with a thought of "whoa, what's going on there?"

If you freak her out, she's not going to see you. If you don't call, she's not going to see you. So, keep it somewhere between the lines and treat the ladies like you'd treat anyone else you'd like to hang out with. Give them a call. Try a followup. If you'd really like to see them, try one more time. If that doesn't work, then maybe tonight just wasn't meant to happen.

[QUOTE=ThePantyRaider;1722467]Also, how do you guys deal with figuring out pricing if they don't list all the prices?[/QUOTE]Ask.

This is like a taxi: you find out the fare at the beginning (when you have any leverage). Keep things short and simple, give her time to offer the rate on her own, but if it's not forthcoming,"Oh, and, by the way, what did you say the hour was?" If she balks, you consider if you can live with the deliberations later. I would thank her for her time and move on.

Assuming you get an answer, take that much and a tip with you, so if there's a shakedown you only lose what you were going to spend anyway.

[QUOTE=ThePantyRaider; 1722467]I'm kind of new to this and I've only been with a few providers so I'm not that experiences in how normal it is for a girl to not get back to you, that sort of thing. There is a provider I've been really wanting to see. I called her once in Feb. And left a message but she never responded. A few days ago I called again, left a message. She didn't call back but a few hours later I called her again and she answered. We didn't really set up a time but she told me to call her in an hour. Soon after I started heading over to her location (general area) and I gave her a call. I couldn't remember exactly when I called the first time so I think I may have called a little over an hour later, it wasn't more than an hour and a half though. She didn't answer. I waited a bit and called a few more times spaced out over about an hour or so (until I had to head back to work). I'm just wondering if I should try calling again or if this girl is trying to tell me she doesn't want anything to do with me? Could I have offended her by being a bit late with my call? I know sometimes a girl just gets a bad vibe from you and they don't want to deal with you so I don't want to freak her out if I call again. And yes this girl is legit and well reviewed.

Also, how do you guys deal with figuring out pricing if they don't list all the prices? I may have offended her at the end of the call because I asked her how much it would be for a half hour. She did tell me how much though. I know they don't really like to discuss prices over the phone but if they don't list it you don't know how much you need to bring. Do you just bring extra money to the local with you and count it out there? In the past I just set the money on a table without saying anything. If I have to ask how much it is in person it seems the same as just asking over the phone and that way you don't have to be carrying extra $.[/QUOTE]In my opinion (as a provider) there are different catagories of providers that will handle your entire experience totally different. This forum is extremely valuable, and I do read it several times a day. Take some time and read as much as you can, especially from senior members. There is so much to learn from both clients and providers here. Back to the catagories.

1. Providers that work with a service. Normally your calls will be answered promptly by a person that handles / books / sets up the girls. If the service is reputable, and has a good track record, you normally will have a good time and get what you are looking for. Screening may be an issue, but remember, It is for their safety and yours.

2. Independent providers that travel from city to city. This is where it gets kinda tricky. They may be travelling because they do not get good reviews or offer service that is not up to par and have to travel so there reviews don't follow them. Chances are they are only interested in the green to feed a habit, so the service is of no real importance to them. Many of these girls change names and use non real pics. Some are very legit and always use the same name and have many good reviews. Again, prob a good bet you will have a nice experience with the latter.

3. Providers that are only in it for the quick fix, or are being handled by an abusive person that puts constant pressure on them to work. SW, bookstores are their haunts.

4. Providers that are independant, and live locally and do not travel. These girls usually are a good bet IF they have a solid reputation and many good reviews. One of the problems with this catagory is the fact that the girls being independant must answer their own phones. I have read many reviews on here about girls answering there phones during, before or Immediatly after a session. In my opinion, that is totally rude and disrespectful to the client. Independants don't have the luxury of having someone else screen and set up thier appts.

As an independant, not only will I NEVER answer my phone (I turn it off during sessions) I will also NEVER call a number back UNLESS the potential client has left me a voice message giving me permission to call back and telling me WHEN to call back. Discretion is always given. ALWAYS. That being the case, over the years, I have prob not returned hundreds of calls. I will also NEVER answer blocked calls. A good local, consistant well reviewed provider will eventually NOT have to advertise very much at all as they will have a fairly stable client base. I do have clients that move away, or run into financial strains so I do take new clients, but my advertising is mostly for my regular clients that do not save numbers and look me up just to get the number again. Don't expect a reputable provider to call back a number just because you called. If she calls back a couple hours later, it may be during your dinner time with your family. Leave a voice mail.

As far as "pricing", some providers will include donation amounts in there ad. Some will not. If they do not put pricing in post, it is totally acceptable to inquire what there "donation" would be for a specified amount of time. Armed with that information as well as several good reviews, you will most likely have a great time.

While I am on the soap box, I would like to give the "NEW" hobbiest a few pointers to up the batting average for them.

1. NEVER EVER ask ANY question that would even hint of anything sexual in your calls or emails. Any provider that answers those questions should scare the hell out of you.

I will ignore email or hang up on you Immed if you go down that road.

2. If you tell me that you were recommended by somebody that saw me I will most likely not belive you. If that is true, then ask your friend to call me first and recommend YOU to

Me.

3. I know that many hobbiest enjoy the hunt, and prefer strange. Thats totally cool. The true hobbiest knows the pitfalls with that and does not have a problem with a lower batting.

Average. It's part of the hunt. Brand new girls with no reviews could be fantastic or horrible. Thats part of the game. Life is a buffet. Enjoy it if you want. If you want to bat

100, do your homework, use a service, make sure your girl has many great reviews, find a local independant girl that has made your city thier home and takes pride in their work.

4. Please understand that your new dream is just that. New. The many nuances that make a dream fantastic usually take time to grow. I enjoy my regular clients more and more

Because I have LEARNED over time just what buttons to push on them and they have learned what makes my toes curl. Makes for a very fun experience. Just my two cents.

Happy Hunting Guys! I had this dream last nite and wanted to share. Bobbi

[QUOTE=ThePantyRaider; 1722467]I'm kind of new to this and I've only been with a few providers so I'm not that experiences in how normal it is for a girl to not get back to you, that sort of thing. There is a provider I've been really wanting to see. I called her once in Feb. And left a message but she never responded. A few days ago I called again, left a message. She didn't call back but a few hours later I called her again and she answered. We didn't really set up a time but she told me to call her in an hour. Soon after I started heading over to her location (general area) and I gave her a call. I couldn't remember exactly when I called the first time so I think I may have called a little over an hour later, it wasn't more than an hour and a half though. She didn't answer. I waited a bit and called a few more times spaced out over about an hour or so (until I had to head back to work). I'm just wondering if I should try calling again or if this girl is trying to tell me she doesn't want anything to do with me? Could I have offended her by being a bit late with my call? I know sometimes a girl just gets a bad vibe from you and they don't want to deal with you so I don't want to freak her out if I call again. And yes this girl is legit and well reviewed.

Also, how do you guys deal with figuring out pricing if they don't list all the prices? I may have offended her at the end of the call because I asked her how much it would be for a half hour. She did tell me how much though. I know they don't really like to discuss prices over the phone but if they don't list it you don't know how much you need to bring. Do you just bring extra money to the local with you and count it out there? In the past I just set the money on a table without saying anything. If I have to ask how much it is in person it seems the same as just asking over the phone and that way you don't have to be carrying extra $.[/QUOTE]One of my top 10 rules of life is "Never beg anyone to take your money." If you called and she didn't answer, depending on the type of provider she is there's not much point to leaving a message. The few providers I have met who tend to respond to messages are pretty low volume and respond based on the quality of your message. Keep it short, make sure to say your name, use the word please.

Don't take the lack of response personal. It is possible that you are calling when she if off the clock or with someone. If she is a high volume provider she will give more weight to the call that comes at the moment than a missed call. Don't get obsessive, but there is nothing wrong with calling 2-3 times in a night over a 4 hour span. I've also had a well reviewed provider ask me to call her in an hour and then not answer. The possibilities are pretty small. She either did not want to see you, was off the clock or had another appointment that actually showed up. Just my 2 cents but I try not to head towards a providers location without an appointment set. If you really want to see her and think you may have put her off then try calling from another number (takes < 20 minutes to get going with a new google voice number).

As far as price goes you should have a general idea from this board and maybe experience about what the price goes for. My ATF travels the country and charges 250-350 / hour but is low volume and generally deals with clientele who let's say make far more than I do and I was lucky to see her the one time I did. My number 2 charges 160 / hour (including BBBJ, DATY, mutual kissing, multiples and so on). My number 3 is generally 120-140 / hr with a BBBJ, multiples and I've had one guy say he kisses her. I avoid quick views but they are generally 60/15 minutes. All that said, unless she works for an agency or is highly reviewed, travels a lot, is not high volume, does extras like BBBJ and multiples etc, expect to pay 80-100 / half hour and 120-180 / hour. As has been discussed before, some of the backpage providers are a bit ridiculous with their pricing, but more power to them if they find a guy to pay it.

My personal opinion is that the ones who don't discuss price are usually not worth the time. I usually wait for the provider to ask how long I want to stay or tell them how long and they generally follow that up by telling me the price. The one time a provider refused to talk price and I stayed was pretty uncomfortable for me because I felt like I was overpaying. With most non-reviewed providers I plan to pay for a half hour, but usually bring enough for an hour if they sell me on them being worth that. IMO there is nothing wrong with discussing price and type of service once the LEO checks are out of the way, but I tend to want more than a hole to stick my dick in so I like to know certain things are on the table before handing over my cash. If you know the price in advance or she has said that it is up to you and you are ok with that, then do as you have been doing and discretely leave the money on the dresser (some guys use an envelope). Just to be clear I'm not exactly telling you to haggle or be cheap. I'm telling you to make sure you know what you are getting and for you it is worth the money. To me there is nothing worse than handing over 180-200 and then being told that everything is covered and there will be no kissing or multiples (two things I don't always do but like to have open as options).

One last thing, you might want to post the providers name and a link to her ad and maybe someone here can shed some light on her behavior.

[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1722805]One of my top 10 rules of life is "Never beg anyone to take your money." If you called and she didn't answer, depending on the type of provider she is there's not much point to leaving a message. The few providers I have met who tend to respond to messages are pretty low volume and respond based on the quality of your message. Keep it short, make sure to say your name, use the word please.

Don't take the lack of response personal. It is possible that you are calling when she if off the clock or with someone. If she is a high volume provider she will give more weight to the call that comes at the moment than a missed call. Don't get obsessive, but there is nothing wrong with calling 2-3 times in a night over a 4 hour span. I've also had a well reviewed provider ask me to call her in an hour and then not answer. The possibilities are pretty small. She either did not want to see you, was off the clock or had another appointment that actually showed up. Just my 2 cents but I try not to head towards a providers location without an appointment set. If you really want to see her and think you may have put her off then try calling from another number (takes < 20 minutes to get going with a new google voice number).

As far as price goes you should have a general idea from this board and maybe experience about what the price goes for. My ATF travels the country and charges 250-350 / hour but is low volume and generally deals with clientele who let's say make far more than I do and I was lucky to see her the one time I did. My number 2 charges 160 / hour (including BBBJ, DATY, mutual kissing, multiples and so on). My number 3 is generally 120-140 / hr with a BBBJ, multiples and I've had one guy say he kisses her. I avoid quick views but they are generally 60/15 minutes. All that said, unless she works for an agency or is highly reviewed, travels a lot, is not high volume, does extras like BBBJ and multiples etc, expect to pay 80-100 / half hour and 120-180 / hour. As has been discussed before, some of the backpage providers are a bit ridiculous with their pricing, but more power to them if they find a guy to pay it.

My personal opinion is that the ones who don't discuss price are usually not worth the time. I usually wait for the provider to ask how long I want to stay or tell them how long and they generally follow that up by telling me the price. The one time a provider refused to talk price and I stayed was pretty uncomfortable for me because I felt like I was overpaying. With most non-reviewed providers I plan to pay for a half hour, but usually bring enough for an hour if they sell me on them being worth that. IMO there is nothing wrong with discussing price and type of service once the LEO checks are out of the way, but I tend to want more than a hole to stick my dick in so I like to know certain things are on the table before handing over my cash. If you know the price in advance or she has said that it is up to you and you are ok with that, then do as you have been doing and discretely leave the money on the dresser (some guys use an envelope). Just to be clear I'm not exactly telling you to haggle or be cheap. I'm telling you to make sure you know what you are getting and for you it is worth the money. To me there is nothing worse than handing over 180-200 and then being told that everything is covered and there will be no kissing or multiples (two things I don't always do but like to have open as options).

One last thing, you might want to post the providers name and a link to her ad and maybe someone here can shed some light on her behavior.[/QUOTE]Do you have any link or number of your number 2 who charge 160 for BBBJ, DATY and multiple etc. I would love to have dream with her.

[QUOTE=Popye;1724628]Do you have any link or number of your number 2 who charge 160 for BBBJ, DATY and multiple etc. I would love to have dream with her.[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM with a link to her site.

She's coming to Raleigh 4/10 a 4/15 she has one hot body.

Not full GFE all covered and no DATY but the body makes up for it.

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Great reviews on the oTHeR site.

[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1725754]I sent you a PM with a link to her site.[/QUOTE]Can I get that as well, if you don't mind sharing.

Anybody tried either of these girls? I met the girl in the top picture at the a bar Brier Creek the other night and she gave me her card. Something told me to look her up on BP and there she was. The other girl on the ad is her roommate and they work from their apartment.

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[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1725754]I sent you a PM with a link to her site.[/QUOTE]Thanks Sir, I will definitely see her and give your references if that is fine.

[QUOTE=Takeitall8; 1725791]She's coming to Raleigh 4/10 a 4/15 she has one hot body.

Not full GFE all covered and no DATY but the body makes up for it.

[url]http://www.embersimmers.com/home/[/url]

Great reviews on the oTHeR site.[/QUOTE]Does she allow MSOG for the hour? Might be worth the two bills if that's the case, quite a looker.

[QUOTE=Vossen; 1725932]Anybody tried either of these girls? I met the girl in the top picture at the a bar Brier Creek the other night and she gave me her card. Something told me to look her up on BP and there she was. The other girl on the ad is her roommate and they work from their apartment.

[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/deep-tissuesports-massage-and-exclusive-split-session-starting-75hr/11748019[/url][/QUOTE]See post 1900. Good massage, no extras.

I had a really nice dream about Ms. Rachell. Really great looking, very nice and sensual. Very worth it.

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