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[QUOTE=FScott;2340491]If they're pros, UTRs or Nando 1's, who cares how cheaply you can fuck them?
Fish in a barrel are just that, fish in a barrel.
Peace,
Scott.[/QUOTE]I care. LOL. Good cheap GFE pussy is hard to find. And she was good. I cant always wait around for the next NP.
[QUOTE=JeanSaulPartre;2340015]Agree with F. Scott. This is not really SD-SB dynamics, while there are certainly grey areas where one is hard to define what exactly is going on.
Just my 2 see.[/QUOTE]I am in the camp desiring emotional attachment in my baby. Otherwise full on escorts would do just fine. I need at least the appearance of attachment and bareback activities all the way. Most of my longer term babies care about me, but I know they are in the same camp as this blog girl. Her case goes to the discussions we regularly have about "is she (an escort) or isn't she?" She had multiple Daddies (3?) which is more the rule than the exception I would think. We might catch them in infancy and be their only one for a while, but if the stay in this world they will expand to bigger things. Why wouldn't they? The money is so easy. We SDs are the same. One is never enough, so if we have enough time and money we will collect as many young SBs as we can. Variety is the spice -Right? They are all selling their bodies for money, so the strict definition of what to call them is somewhat moot. I think we are fooling ourselves if we think a lot of these girls are fascinated with us to the point of having a GF mentality, that they are monogamous with us and dreaming about us all day. This world is NSA in their minds as well. We might be cute, fun, interesting, and sexy (for men 20 to 40 yrs their senior)) ,but we are still ATMs. They have fun with us, collect their $ ,then go home to their BF, their posse, and their life.
YMMV and I am sure that line blurs with the younger guys out there. If you are within 15 yrs of their age you could be BF materiel IRL.
I would consider her more of an UTR than a sugar baby. SB's are not by the hour. SBs generally have some sort of actual connection with their SD. Yes money is a priority but there is more between them. Anyway. Thats my 2 pennies. But I guess we all misrepresent the way things really are to make ourselves feel better in some fashion.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2339853][URL]http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/it-happened-to-me-im-a-college-sugar-baby[/URL]
Here's a pretty good, honest self appraisal from a "real live" SB. I totally buy her story. She acts but doesn't feel, gives good service to her SDs, but suffers the emotional consequences.[/QUOTE]
The main problem with these stories is that they give the impression that a girl on a sugar site can get $450 a date for an hour worth of time. Which is what I remember the girl in that story mentioning.
The problem is that it basically turns the sugar scene into an "upscale" backpage. Don't get me wrong now, I have paid that level for a high end escort, but the vibe is completely different and more in line with that story. The expectation is for sex and little more. At that level, multipops had to be on the table, and although I didn't partake in all the extras, I got the impression that some services were mandatory. For example, most high end girls would ask me just to not cum in their eyes or hair if I wanted to give them a facial. Almost all were releived when I told them that certain services that they offered were just not my thing. Based on my conversations with them during our sessions, lots of guys they saw were nice, but demanding because of the amount that they were paying.
Based on the story, it sounded like the writer was asked to provide and receive some of those services (e. G. Nipple clamps, light bondage, s&m, etc) and that she had her "daddies" on a clock (e. G. An hour of her time). Nothing wrong with that if she was into it, but if she wasn't, then she is basically an escort for hire, not an sb. Sure she might consider herself "low volume" but you'd be surprised how small the client lists are for some of these upscale escorts. Yes. There have been multiple occassions where a service or a provider sends out a blast marketing email, but forgets to bcc: the list and exposes everyone's email. What's even more unbeleivable is the fact that some guys are using their real or work email addresses. Yes. I recognized a few upstanding folks from my own region. I have of course deleted those emails, but the point being, just because the girl in the story is "only" banging three or four guys a month doesn't mean she's an sb and not an escort. And not that anyone here was trying to make that connection, but rather, her story seemed to question whether she was an sb because of her low volume or a wh@*e because she was being paid for sex. I submit she was the latter because it sounds like sex was the only thing on the table (although the story mentioned trips and such) and because she had her daddies on a clock.
After only a few weeks in the bowl, from my perspective and my experience its about the relationship. With my sb2, I was reviewing her resume two weeks ago, editing it, and coaching her through questions she was likely going to be asked and giving her advice on the answers she should give. Sure, I spent anywhere between $300-$450 on our dates, but the allowance was always significantly less than the amount spent on the date itself. If she had two or three other "daddies" I wouldn't have cared. The time we spent together was similar to dating, but with an understanding that it wasn't going to lead to more. I think from her perspective, she was ok with that since she found me attractive, and would have probably dated me anyway. And the extra sugar made the prospect of not having a real future easier to deal with. In many ways it was more honest since I'm sure plenty of guys on normal dating sites like match wine and dine girls, bang them, and then dump them when they need someone different or get bored.
It's also why I don't gravitate as much towards the profiles that give off the UTR vibe. Sure, its awesome if you can find a great deal like HWG did (see his past few posts) but if an unreviewed girl without an agency to stand behind her wants $450-$500 a date or a monthly allowance of $2,000 + a month to "date" then I will take a pass. Sure there might be some exceptions I might make, but if the girl is a dead fish in bed, then I just pissed away my money. On the other hand a provider with a reputation to uphold or an agency to stand behind her (yes, when I had a bad experience, every solid agency made it up to me because they value thier client relationships) is a lot easier to deal with.
I suspect that over time, with trust and a great relationship, I could get to the levels that some of these gilts this month have been asking for. The allowance is earned, and if a young lady has GPS, there better be gold between those legs. And I prefer to verify before I trust.
Long story short, we all have different reasons and desires in the bowl. As for the writer of the story that was posted. My two cents. She should just create her own escort website rather than playing in the bowl. Sadly though, after she graduates and realizes how hard life really is after school, and trying to start a real career, chances are she probably will.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2340124]Yes, she is very far on the side of a UTR escort. Notice she said not one of her johns knows her real name. That's 100% escort behavior. A lot of those types like the term "sugar baby" because it sounds better, and I guess they figure if SD sites are their primary marketing mechanism it makes them an SB. Oddly enough she still describes herself as a wh___.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2340748]
YMMV and I am sure that line blurs with the younger guys out there. If you are within 15 yrs of their age you could be BF materiel IRL.[/QUOTE]Some of them have a thing for older guys and don't see age at all as long as they find something physically attractive about you, and if you already take good care of yourself / are well preserved, are a confident person, have visible career success, etc. , then some of these girls 25 years younger still consider you BF material.
I take that in a different direction, however. Whenever I get that sort of vibe from them, I try to explain how important NSA is to me and that I should never be viewed as BF material. I try to cover that in my first e-mail or two. Why? First because its true in my case, but more importantly I think it enhances sex.
When a female is lining you up for long-term material, she is focusing too much on the future rather than good solid here-and-now fucking. I want her to fuck me like she's never going see me again. I don't want to hear "I can't believe I just did that, I've never blown a guy on the first date before" or other excuses they come up with in order to present the pollyana wifey material image. I want them to be in experimental mode, real and raw and unencumbered by thoughts, doubts or worries.
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2340766]Based on the story, it sounded like the writer was asked to provide and receive some of those services (e. G. Nipple clamps, light bondage, s&m, etc) and that she had her "daddies" on a clock (e. G. An hour of her time). Nothing wrong with that if she was into it, but if she wasn't, then she is basically an escort for hire, not an sb.[/QUOTE]Yes, this was another distinguishing feature that categorized her clearly in the escort camp rather than an SB.
Whenever someone is writing up a specification or a purchase order of the specific sexual services they would like done to them before the meeting, it has already flown outside of the boundaries of a true SD / SB encounter. That's something that happens between pros and johns. If a girl agrees to a specific laundry list of sex acts before meeting and getting to know the guy a little, she's a pro.
First, I only post about girls that have a profile on an SD site.
And a question.
How many of you have been proposed marriage by an SB if you are single or asked to leave your SO if you are married?
Thanks to Canebay and JeezLizard for all the info on this topic.
Vanilla Visa / Mc gift cards are available in Walmart and many other places. You need only the zip code to register the card.
On SA you *must* choose the 2nd option that says seekingar. The payment process occurs on 1 page where you enter all requested info. The zip code must match what you registered the card with, name etc can be anything.
The first payment option will not work since it occurs on an overseas site and this type of cards cannot be used outside the USA.
If my budget is lower than expectation can I go ahead and contact them but ask them up front if their expectation is fixed?
Or will it be a waste of time.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341380]If my budget is lower than expectation can I go ahead and contact them but ask them up front if their expectation is fixed?
Or will it be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]If their expectation is "high" or "substantial" I'm pretty unlikely to contact them, just due to GPS, low likelihood of success, etc.
Anything else I will contact and I don't even discuss the sugar up front. Just chat and get to know them. If they are not a UTR, then their expectation is never REALLY 100% fixed and the more they like you the less they will insist on. I generally don't even discuss the sugar until they bring it up. Just assume that they know I will take care of them.
Are affairs non-monetary transactions? Or is it another SD / SB site?
Just wondering if it may be safer than SA. Any other similar sites where individuals hookup without any money / stuff involved?
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341406]Are affairs non-monetary transactions? Or is it another SD / SB site?
Just wondering if it may be safer than SA. Any other similar sites where individuals hookup without any money / stuff involved?[/QUOTE]There is no such thing as free pussy. LOL. I will rephrase that. There is no such thing as shopping for free pussy. If you like to shop then you are going to pay.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2341463]There is no such thing as free pussy. LOL. I will rephrase that. There is no such thing as shopping for free pussy. If you like to shop then you are going to pay.[/QUOTE]That was funny HollywoodGuy!
I was wondering if there was less risk of drama, attachment etc with AshMad since people are looking to have affairs? Assuming everyone is truthful about their status / intentions on AshMad.
Should I discuss upfront about long term or date by date? Are SBs less interested in guys who do not commit to a long term arrangement upfront? Or should I just relax and take things as they happen and let her bring up these topics.
If it is date by date then I guess we will have to agree to the $ at the beginning. Sorry for being all over with my questions. I am a newbie.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341572]Should I discuss upfront about long term or date by date? Are SBs less interested in guys who do not commit to a long term arrangement upfront? Or should I just relax and take things as they happen and let her bring up these topics.
If it is date by date then I guess we will have to agree to the $ at the beginning. Sorry for being all over with my questions. I am a newbie.[/QUOTE]Since you laughed at my joke I would politely suggest reading the entire forum from start to finish.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341406]Are affairs non-monetary transactions? Or is it another SD / SB site?
Just wondering if it may be safer than SA. Any other similar sites where individuals hookup without any money / stuff involved?[/QUOTE]My next FC meet is with a married but looking 29 yo MILF. We had M&G yesterday and decided on a full service date next week. She complained all her contacts on AM were just "how much do you want" comms and that's why she switched to SA. At this point I don't think it will cost me anymore than the hotel room as she is just a deprived house wife. She just needs to someone to show her some attention. I will happily do that.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341380]If my budget is lower than expectation can I go ahead and contact them but ask them up front if their expectation is fixed?
Or will it be a waste of time.[/QUOTE]I'd generally agree with thepunter. However, I'd check out the profile. If it is obviously crafted by someone who is sophisticated, then I definitely suspect GPS and avoid.
If, OTOH, it is a little awkward, tentative, some spelling and grammar errors, it is very likely that there is plenty of wriggle room. Some have obviously not read the guideline values set out under that question mark. In that case the word "substantial" is entirely subjective, and related to her situation. If she's on a minimum wage, "substantial" to her might be $200. That's not common, but it's at least worth running the eyeballs over just in case.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2341617]Since you laughed at my joke I would politely suggest reading the entire forum from start to finish.[/QUOTE]Someone should make a separate Sugarbaby FAQ thread and put all the acronyms and recurring questions. Reading 8000+ posts in their entirety, particularly with some of the weird formatting restrictions imposed here, is way beyond being a reasonable request. Believe me, the pagination of the server alone cannot flip through them all at a reasonable pace, it's just too cumbersome.
It's a dilemma as old as the Internet itself and the general solution for it has always been an FAQ that gets maintained by one or more folks.
As to how to prevent that thread from becoming polluted with lots of individual anecdotal experiences, I don't know. Perhaps Admin can lock it and give only a few folks access to it, or maybe USASG has already solved this problem somehow.
It is often said that a task repeated 10,000 times will make you a master of it. So reading 8,000 posts may only make you a master of reading posts. But it could do a lot more if you apply the principles related in those posts.
You would only have to read about thirty pages a day for 3 weeks to read this entire thread. Not too much preparation for a lifetime of sugaring. I estimate it took me 3 years to learn what this thread could have taught me in 3 weeks.
After reading this thread and a few others combined with thousands of hours of research and chatting with girls over the last 7 years I have gone from spending 6 k a month for average results down to 3 k a month for the desired ones. After 20 years of marriage and then 7 more with an SO my game level has gone from a 1 to about a 7 or 8.
Some of the info here and on other threads is just pure gold. I follow at least 12 contributors daily. Some are SD's, some are AMP guys and some are into SW's and escorts. But combine it all together and I dont think there is a more definitive source of information anywhere. I am a voracious reader, not everyone is, but it has served me well at work and in sugaring.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2341775]It is often said that a task repeated 10,000 times will make you a master of it. So reading 8,000 posts may only make you a master of reading posts. But it could do a lot more if you apply the principles related in those posts.
You would only have to read about thirty pages a day for 3 weeks to read this entire thread. Not too much preparation for a lifetime of sugaring. I estimate it took me 3 years to learn what this thread could have taught me in 3 weeks.
After reading this thread and a few others combined with thousands of hours of research and chatting with girls over the last 7 years I have gone from spending 6 k a month for average results down to 3 k a month for the desired ones. After 20 years of marriage and then 7 more with an SO my game level has gone from a 1 to about a 7 or 8.
Some of the info here and on other threads is just pure gold. I follow at least 12 contributors daily. Some are SD's, some are AMP guys and some are into SW's and escorts. But combine it all together and I dont think there is a more definitive source of information anywhere. I am a voracious reader, not everyone is, but it has served me well at work and in sugaring.[/QUOTE]Well we can't all live in Hollywoodland where every chick wants to be a star.
Interested in this one gal. Until I got the rates. 5 for a "date", 7 for "overnight" and 2 k for "a real sugarbabe for a month. " Do these gals even understand math?
Based on the advice on this thread (and my market), I offered 1/2 that while accepting of the fact that 2 k would be acceptable but we would have to get along.
I got a 'no thanks sweetie. ' Dumb girl.
Of course, she is on WYP and SD4 Me too. So, when those wells dry up.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341564]That was funny HollywoodGuy!
I was wondering if there was less risk of drama, attachment etc with AshMad since people are looking to have affairs? Assuming everyone is truthful about their status / intentions on AshMad.[/QUOTE]PGH, you are obviously new to the game and all of your questions have been asked and answered multiple times in this Thread. So read it --it is really fun! I go back and reread a lot of the entries to see the evolution of sugaring techniques.
AM is difficult and most guys have not reported good results. The girls there are mostly looking for an affair with the guy of their dreams, and thus are extremely picky. Money is not usually expected although there are some obvious UTRs, hookers, and SBs on there. When money is the primary motivation girls are more likely to go out with a less than optimal guy if their Knight in Shining armor doesn't appear --which he usually doesn't. A married woman on AM wants a safe, comfortable, and emotionally satifying relationship with a guy near their age or younger.They want a hot 35 yr old, not a 60 yr old. They already live with one of those who isn't doing it for them. IMHO. Again, maybe the younger guys would have more luck there
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2341775]It is often said that a task repeated 10,000 times will make you a master of it. So reading 8,000 posts may only make you a master of reading posts. But it could do a lot more if you apply the principles related in those posts.
You would only have to read about thirty pages a day for 3 weeks to read this entire thread. Not too much preparation for a lifetime of sugaring. I estimate it took me 3 years to learn what this thread could have taught me in 3 weeks.
[/QUOTE]No reading of a thread would teach someone how to be a sugar daddy unless they lived in the exact same location, aimed for the same demographic, looked identical to the SD they were trying to learn from and had an identical personality, budget and other circumstances. Beyond that, each individual SD is going to find their own mileage varies. They might glean an idea or two from the conversations here, but for anyone to assume this thread is a complete how-to guide on getting pussy that will work for everyone just isn't in line with reality. We've seen many guys come and go, trying things suggested here that don't work for them. Even when I give advice I assume the reader has enough sense to apply it to his own situation, maybe use it as inspiration for ideas. I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is smart enough to know that if he quotes me verbatim or tries to do exactly as I do, he's going to get different results than I do.
Besides, once you account for the fact that probably 40% of the posts are people asking the same questions and talking about the same things over and over, it's not a plan for efficient learning to expect them to read the entire thread. Early pioneers relied on horses and wagons to get around, it doesn't mean we need to do the same today. If those early pioneers had suggested that modern society in the year 2015 should use horses and wagons because they did, nobody would respect them and they wouldn't be in history books today.
We would all benefit from the efficiency. Those of us who already know what FC or GPS means wouldn't have to wade through it being asked every other post.
I tried to read the entire thread once and the server load times were too slow and unreliable. It would have taken much longer than 3 weeks even if I made a full time job out of it.
There's no need to re-invent the wheel. People have already solved this problem. What we need is an FAQ listing of the stuff that gets asked over and over and wastes all of our time on a recurring basis. It's not going to replace the detailed discussions that take place here, only extract the repetitive boring shit out, so that it is in one place, removing clutter.
So this chick sets up a new profile. Very pretty, the description says "athletic", allowance moderate. I was probably one of the first people talking to her. She starts with 5, I propose $$. 5. She agreed. And then she says: "I will have a male companion with me at all times for protection, he will not get in the way". I politely thank her, say I am not interested in escorts, they are aplenty. In a couple days this same profile (u know it is the same since it is in your folder) looks totally different. Photos are gone, age is higher and it says "a few extra pounds". Is it some sort of SA quality control, to weed out BP types? Interesting.
I've had 2 long term SB's ( year) that became girlfriends. Both talked about moving in together, marriage and kids. If I wasn't 25-30 years their senior, I might have considered it. Almost did anyway.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2340897]First, I only post about girls that have a profile on an SD site.
And a question.
How many of you have been proposed marriage by an SB if you are single or asked to leave your SO if you are married?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2341564]That was funny HollywoodGuy!
I was wondering if there was less risk of drama, attachment etc with AshMad since people are looking to have affairs? Assuming everyone is truthful about their status / intentions on AshMad.[/QUOTE]I have had 2 successful affairs from AM. No sugar, just middle age milfs looking for some attention. Both were women who wanted to end their marriages but for several reasons they could not do it at that time. So, they were looking for married men in similar situations to spend some time with and meet their sexual needs. Just be aware you are not going to find the 20 something hottie like you can on SA, unless she is a utr cruising AM as well. As far as drama, it's always a crap shoot. You will have to pony up for "credits" to e-mail anyone. I would suggest if you are really interested, create a profile (that you can do for free) and then window shop for a while to see if there are any ladies that are of interest to you.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2341617]Since you laughed at my joke I would politely suggest reading the entire forum from start to finish.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for your patience.
I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?
I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.
I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important!
Is this real life? Sometimes I have to ask myself this very question while playing in the bowl. What a crazy night / morning!
I've been talking to this pretty hot 22 year old recent college grad for the past couple of weeks over text. Her profile was brand new and she said she never had an arrangement before, however she did met 2 guys for M&G from the site but said there was no connection. We met for drinks and appetizers at one bar and then we venue changed to another bar right across the street for more drinks. We really hit it off with fun, flirty conversation. Since I traveled about 30 minutes to visit her and it was getting somewhat late I suggested that I was probably going to just book a hotel room for the night and invited her back with me. She happily agreed and followed me back The sex was great. Multiple positions, 2 orgasms each for both of us. She ended up leaving late into the night. We never discussed what the arrangement would look like. However I definitely want to see her again so I think we'll need to figure something out.
My hotel stay gets a little wilder from there.
I grab some breakfast from the hotel in the morning. As I'm waiting for the elevator to go back up into the room I start talking to this girl who is also waiting. She was probably about a 5 or 6 in the looks department. She's freaking out a bit because she said she was staying in the room with her friend and woke up this morning and the friend had left and she wasn't answering her phone and she didn't have a ride. She said she was fiending for some cigarettes. Sensing that this girl may be a UTR / Nando 1 type I offer to give her a ride to get some smokes. We hop into the car and start talking. She immediatley starts giving me her sob story and I suggest that she should think about having a Sugar Daddy. She tells me she used to have one. It was game over from there. We get back to the hotel room and I invite myself back to her room. She ends up admitting that her and her friend were staying in the hotel because the posted an escort add online. We start to talking about sex and I challenge her to try and get me hard. Next thing I know she's giving me a sloppy BJ and I'm painting her face with my man juice! I left her $11 because I kinda felt bad for her.
I'm on a roll lately. Might need to slow down and pace myself so I don't burn out.
\ This definelty felt like a real date. I was into her, she was into me.
I am just glad you do not play in my area. Otherwise my nights would probably be spent with my SO.
I will report more in my end of Jan. Update (but not too many specifics. I am learning from the more experienced brothers on this board), - I am quickly rebuilding my rotation.
With school back in full swing, I have had multiple m&gs with various pots. In order to keep down costs, I have been planning my FC trips with m&gs. Had an afternoon FC session during my lunch break with a pot I met earlier this week. Planned to meet a pot for drinks at a local bar near my office in the evening, but the crappy east coast weather killed those plans.
Hung out at the bar at night hoping to meet someone in the "wild" but the bar was filled with mostly men or women with men.
Have a second m&g scheduled for late this morning. Asked for a late checkout in case that turns into a trip to the FC. A third m&g is scheduked for mid afternoon. I have a FC trip scheduled for this evening with someone I met last weekend during lunch. If my mid afternoon m&g turns into a trip to the FC, I will have options, but may be cutting it close.
Tomorrow I have an FC trip scheduled with a young college coed. She is very promising because she is a hot and young, can host, and her requested allowance is $150 a visit (with the understanding that I would also cover date costs and gifts). She is also a gymist. According to her she went on mutiple m&gs but decided that we would be a good fit based on our chemistry. If she is as good in bed as I am hoping, then I think I can end my season and coast for the next few months.
Good luck to all the players in the bowl.
[QUOTE=LandonR;2342560]Is this real life? Sometimes I have to ask myself this very question while playing in the bowl. What a crazy night / morning!
I've been talking to this pretty hot 22 year old recent college grad for the past couple of weeks over text. Her profile was brand new and she said she never had an arrangement before, however she did met 2 guys for M&G from the site but said there was no connection. We met for drinks and appetizers at one bar and then we venue changed to another bar right across the street for more drinks. We really hit it off with fun, flirty conversation. Since I traveled about 30 minutes to visit her and it was getting somewhat late I suggested that I was probably going to just book a hotel room for the night and invited her back with me. She happily agreed and followed me back The sex was great. Multiple positions, 2 orgasms each for both of us. She ended up leaving late into the night. We never discussed what the arrangement would look like. However I definitely want to see her again so I think we'll need to figure something out.
My hotel stay gets a little wilder from there.
I grab some breakfast from the hotel in the morning. As I'm waiting for the elevator to go back up into the room I start talking to this girl who is also waiting. She was probably about a 5 or 6 in the looks department. She's freaking out a bit because she said she was staying in the room with her friend and woke up this morning and the friend had left and she wasn't answering her phone and she didn't have a ride. She said she was fiending for some cigarettes. Sensing that this girl may be a UTR / Nando 1 type I offer to give her a ride to get some smokes. We hop into the car and start talking. She immediatley starts giving me her sob story and I suggest that she should think about having a Sugar Daddy. She tells me she used to have one. It was game over from there. We get back to the hotel room and I invite myself back to her room. She ends up admitting that her and her friend were staying in the hotel because the posted an escort add online. We start to talking about sex and I challenge her to try and get me hard. Next thing I know she's giving me a sloppy BJ and I'm painting her face with my man juice! I left her $11 because I kinda felt bad for her.
I'm on a roll lately. Might need to slow down and pace myself so I don't burn out.
\ This definelty felt like a real date. I was into her, she was into me.[/QUOTE]
I have a made up life that is close to my life but not. My middle name is now my first name, my last name is close enough, my job is one I had about 10 years ago and know very well, my personal life is close but I never discuss the wife or kids. I have a facebook page for my new name and even a few friends on it. Amazing how some woman will just accept friends and than others are ex sb. So far so good. BTW. I am on SB 22 and 23. 6 were long term and two along the way wanted me to leave my wife.
Next week I quit. My job in a far away city is ending and I am going home. Where it is too risky. Plan for next week is SB 22 and SB 23, followed by new SB24 and SB25! Then celibacy. Good luck guys!
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2342508]I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?
I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.
I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important![/QUOTE]
Hi. Graham and Fish. Maybe you have a few pics of some of the below mentioned conquests to post? Faces can be obscured.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2342508]I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?
I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.
I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important![/QUOTE]Who is calling the shots here?
Your questions seem to indicate that you are rather unsure of yourself and how to respond to the SBs. Like any form of dating, confidence is important to a successful outcome with SBs. I would think less about what you "should" be doing and instead just get out there and talk to people and be upfront about what you want and how you feel. If you are not comfortable sharing any particular info about yourself, then don't share it! And if a POT has a problem with that, kick her to the curb! If you want to have relationships where you have to figure out which of the woman's request you need to follow then just go on a normal dating site because there is nothing unique about that.
[QUOTE=ThePunter7216;2343879]Who is calling the shots here?[/QUOTE]You call them and she pours them. Fair and Balanced.
After what happened with sb2, I am going to take jeezlizards advice and err on the side of caution. I haven't taken any pictures of the sbs I've been with and so would have to pull their pics from the site itself. After sb 2 threatented to post my pics publicaly (I don't have any up on the site but routinely email them to pots).
I am going to err on the side of caution here using Jeezlizards wisdom. Moving forward my posts will slighly change the description of each sb. And so even if I blurred their face, an sb would probably know immediately if I posted a pic from their profile even if the face was blurred.
I have no desire to have a pissed off sb post my pics publically on a website since my employer and my SO would almost certainly dissapprove. Burned once twice shy I guess. Besides because of my situation, posting pics of those I get to the FC is probably not the smartest move for me.
As for a quick interim update for the weekend. Of the three FC trips, two came through. The Friday FC trip was an afternoon lunch time special and the FC trip yesterday was a full on overnighter, and morning after session. The FC trip I had planned for Sunday afternoon with the gymnist got cancelled. Apparently she had to go home to deal with family issues. I thought it was TGTBT, but because she is hot, can host and is asking for such a small allowance per date, I will keep chasing this unicorn.
Of the three m&gs that were scheduled for this weekend, Friday night cancelled because of the weather, Sat morning cancelled because of all reasons, she claimed her dog was sick, but the Saturday afternoon m&g came through. She is young, and looks like she can be easily molded. Face is a 6 body is a 7. No plans for the fc yet, but I am interested in seeing where this goes. I complimented her on her shoes and her bag. According to her, they. Were extremely expensive because she paid almost $100 for both of them.
If that's her idea of expensive she will be thrilled with the allowance I am planning on giving her if she ever makes it to the FC with me. Time will tell.
More details in the end of month report.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2343415]Hi. Graham and Fish. Maybe you have a few pics of some of the below mentioned conquests to post? Faces can be obscured.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2342508]I want keep to my SD-SB activities completely separate from my real life. Are SBs generally OK with not knowing who you really are?
I am willing to share my life details with an SB without revealing any personally identifying info. However will she create a scene? Accusing me of not trusting her etc.
I ask because in reply to my first message to her an SB said that she is not interested in a guy who cannot trust her. My profile only states that discretion is important![/QUOTE]I look at this site as if it is a business deal not a girlfriend. If I wanted a girlfriend I'd go to a dating site. One could say we are closing girlfriends on this site, but without the drama. IMO they don't deserve to know my personal life. If they cannot handle it, then no deal with me.
Know of "Hotel Tonight" app. Any other apps / web sites for getting a room for the night?
Also how do I indicate early checkin needed during the booking assuming it is possible.
Just Google Hotel app. Every major hotel booing site has an app from priceline, to expedia, to kayak.
Find the one you like the most in real life and use it.
I personally like priceline because the choose your own price feature. Some sites give you a free night for every ten that you book.
As for early check in, I just call ahead. Don't tell the hotel you are using a third party site. Just ask if early check in is available. I have yet to find any hotel that will guarantee early check in anytime other than right before you actually check in. Also late check out policies differ from hotel to hotel.
Finally if you travel a lot for work, then you should have points you can use, or at least be a gold or diamond or premier member of at least one or two chains. If you are, the hotel will be more accomodating with early check. Ins, late check out and room upgrades and perks.
And one final tip, if you don't have 100 % control of the finances and have an SO, than you may need to consider putting considerable sums of money on one of those Walmart visa credit card that can be reloaded.
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2344634]Know of "Hotel Tonight" app. Any other apps / web sites for getting a room for the night?
Also how do I indicate early checkin needed during the booking assuming it is possible.[/QUOTE]
That was very helpful info.
[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2344767]Just Google Hotel app. Every major hotel booing site has an app from priceline, to expedia, to kayak.
Find the one you like the most in real life and use it.
I personally like priceline because the choose your own price feature. Some sites give you a free night for every ten that you book.
As for early check in, I just call ahead. Don't tell the hotel you are using a third party site. Just ask if early check in is available. I have yet to find any hotel that will guarantee early check in anytime other than right before you actually check in. Also late check out policies differ from hotel to hotel.
Finally if you travel a lot for work, then you should have points you can use, or at least be a gold or diamond or premier member of at least one or two chains. If you are, the hotel will be more accomodating with early check. Ins, late check out and room upgrades and perks.
And one final tip, if you don't have 100 % control of the finances and have an SO, than you may need to consider putting considerable sums of money on one of those Walmart visa credit card that can be reloaded.[/QUOTE]