General Reports

[QUOTE=NodozFreak;6068950]I used to go all over Asia back when plane tickets were cheap. The poorer the country the better. My last trip was to the Philippines. Hotel was about $450 for 2 weeks and the ladies can be had for as cheap as $10 for 2 hours full service and multiple pops. The hotel was in the middle of one of the red light districts, and you can literally walk out the hotel and pick out a girl standing outside.[/QUOTE]I always burn my miles and points to go to Asia. A few years back, you could buy an economy ticket and use miles for an upgrade. Now, getting that upgrade requires airline status and luck.

In Bangkok, Phuket, or the Gulf, you can stay in a swanky hotel for $350-500 a week. Same in the Philippines. In Japan, no such luck. A small room in a 3 star hotel can run $300 a night. However, you won't pay for a hot girl. Plenty of hot Japanese women love an American.

I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6071614]I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?[/QUOTE]Not a lawyer but no it's not entrapment. Entrapment would be if you did all that then the provider forced you somehow into sexual offer. Asking you and you accepting is not entrapment.

[QUOTE=MushroomGod;6071846]Not a lawyer but no it's not entrapment. Entrapment would be if you did all that then the provider forced you somehow into sexual offer. Asking you and you accepting is not entrapment.[/QUOTE]I would think that's the definition of entrapment, getting you to do something you would normally not do. I hired a maid she cleaned my house for an hr then she offered me a BJ for $100 at the end or I hired a legit masseuse then she started playing with my balls so I asked for $100 to suck me off. Her offering is probably the key.

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6071614]I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?[/QUOTE]Forget any entrapment defense. The courts pretty much ignore it in these cases because the police are "doing good work". Unless you're fabulously wealthy and can afford to take it all the way up to SCOTUS.

[QUOTE=Chicago41;6072336]Forget any entrapment defense. The courts pretty much ignore it in these cases because the police are "doing good work". Unless you're fabulously wealthy and can afford to take it all the way up to SCOTUS.[/QUOTE]Entrapment would only work if you denied the sexual advance and the masseuse / undercover cop continued to pursue it by either touching you inappropriately on her own regard or gave you some guilty trip after you saying no, on why you should accept her offer. For example, "I need money to feed my kids, please accept". It needs to be obvious that they kept pressing you, and you normally would not have committed the crime but where strongly forced into it. Very hard to prove btw, especially in these stings.

There is enough evidence based on where that ad was placed "Most likely a strictly sexual site" that they will say you purposely sought and even though the add didn't express sexual favors, you went there with the intention of possibly getting offered. They are definitely betting on this to hook you in and visit them, and as soon as they asked once, and you accepted you where fucked.

In the future considering getting a normal massage, and declining service and only if you feel comfortable un-robe and see if she takes the bait. This way you aren't being hooked; an actual masseuse will cover you up, an actual cop won't even start the massage, and someone offering a happy ending will gladly take the bait for more money.

I'm guessing you got caught, if so, it would be wise to share what ad caught you to avoid others from the same fate.

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6071614]I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?[/QUOTE]Didn't get caught. Just was wondering if there was a police policy on what they can and can't do when placing an ad for arresting people.

Has anyone watched porn while wearing Oculus and how it compares with "normal" porn? I am not a gamer and I don't have a reason to buy them at least now and don't plan spending 400 $ to beat my meat, but saw them today at Costco and wondered how will be the experience?

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6071614]I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?[/QUOTE]I'm not a lawyer, but using any defense (entrapment, insanity, etc) doesn't do you any good after you have been arrested and your name and picture are on the internet. Whatever defense you try will not undo the damage.

Hey bro. You could say you had a dream, LOL.

[QUOTE=TJGeek;6072390]I'm not a lawyer, but using any defense (entrapment, insanity, etc) doesn't do you any good after you have been arrested and your name and picture are on the internet. Whatever defense you try will not undo the damage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SleepOdyssey;6069896]I don't know if it's just me barely noticing or if more escorts are actually requiring or having work email verification as an option for screening. But it seems kinda ridiculous, doesn't it? Unless you're a hot shot or boss or something or don't care, isn't sending an email using your work email address to a SW pretty stupid or risky? Do IT departments check a employee's email or have alerts for suspicious emails? I'm not sure how it works, but I recently checked my company's IT / email privacy policy. It seems too risky. Work email is company property and can be subject to search at anytime apparently.

Am I crazy or are these ladies crazy for wanting an email from work? I'd much rather just send a pic of my I'd that blurs my info than do this. Or send proof of employment in some other way. Maybe I'm not the type of client they're looking for? Anyone have any input maybe?[/QUOTE]You're not crazy and I would never involve my job or place of employment in the search for erotic services as well. I've encountered an occasional provider that asks for something like this. I always make it very clear to the provider that this is a non-starter for me if they ask and if they insist, I just move on. I'm sure they are just trying to keep safe but for me, that's a little too much personal info to share. I imagine there are enough horny guys out there that are willing to do this but it's not for me. As for whether IT or the company is snooping on you, that probably depends on the company. However, it's usually 100% within their right to do so. Good luck out there.

I'm posting this here cause I don't know where else to. Met this sexy 49 year old MILF tat just so happen to be related to a regular I had before she passed. She's getting back into the hang of things slowly and would like to take regular dates. Inbox me for info if interested. She's close to Ohare.

[QUOTE=Falken;6075627]You're not crazy and I would never involve my job or place of employment in the search for erotic services as well. I've encountered an occasional provider that asks for something like this. I always make it very clear to the provider that this is a non-starter for me if they ask and if they insist, I just move on. I'm sure they are just trying to keep safe but for me, that's a little too much personal info to share. I imagine there are enough horny guys out there that are willing to do this but it's not for me. As for whether IT or the company is snooping on you, that probably depends on the company. However, it's usually 100% within their right to do so. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct about email scan. Most company's scan 100% of all email sent to their email servers. They only scan the content of the emails when issues or trend start to show evidence of some kind of abnormal activity. During these investigations they will publish their findings that often include HR services due to the nature of the content. In short all the abbreviations we use are stored in a database. This database is used to flag the content and categorize it for further review. Believe me when I say there are a lot of people that have lost their job because of this reason.

Things can go south very badly. And be an embarrassment to co-workers and family.

So is self service an illegal practice? Also what happens if you are at a AMP while it's raided? Even before I was into the hobby I was a little worried that would happen even if nothing funny was happening.

I do not mind answering DMs about posts but a least make an effort to read the post that sparked the question.

If you have fewer than senior level I'm not answering explicit questions.

And learn the abbreviations before you message and rag on me about overpaying.

What Ron said about your business information is spot on.

[QUOTE=Mgksux;6076609]So is self service an illegal practice? Also what happens if you are at a AMP while it's raided? Even before I was into the hobby I was a little worried that would happen even if nothing funny was happening.[/QUOTE]SS it is not illegal on behalf of the provider for the simple reason that she is not participating in a sex act for money. A lot of places will make the client SS on the first visit to ensure he is not a cop. This is actually a very wise practice. And it's a type of verification because an undercover cop is not going to jerk off on a possible sting.

If you are at an AMP while it's raided, it's likely you will lose out on your massage but nothing will happen to you. There's no evidence you've done anything wrong. But it's more than likely they will tell you to get dressed and leave.

[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;6077451]SS it is not illegal on behalf of the provider for the simple reason that she is not participating in a sex act for money. A lot of places will make the client SS on the first visit to ensure he is not a cop. This is actually a very wise practice. And it's a type of verification because an undercover cop is not going to jerk off on a possible sting.

If you are at an AMP while it's raided, it's likely you will lose out on your massage but nothing will happen to you. There's no evidence you've done anything wrong. But it's more than likely they will tell you to get dressed and leave.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure that logic applies anymore. There are reports out there of undercover cops arresting women in spas after they got jerked off. And people wonder why nobody likes cops.

Been noticing a pattern for some years now but it seems typically that providers are least active posting on Fridays.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6078077]Been noticing a pattern for some years now but it seems typically that providers are least active posting on Fridays.[/QUOTE]Are you Right.

[QUOTE=FuckGolf12;6076400]You are 100% correct about email scan. Most company's scan 100% of all email sent to their email servers. They only scan the content of the emails when issues or trend start to show evidence of some kind of abnormal activity. During these investigations they will publish their findings that often include HR services due to the nature of the content. In short all the abbreviations we use are stored in a database. This database is used to flag the content and categorize it for further review. Believe me when I say there are a lot of people that have lost their job because of this reason.[/QUOTE]You got that right. Someone I know got called into HR years ago because he got flagged for a high frequency of email and web traffic with illicit content. It was basically going to be a firing and exit interview, except the keyword they were hitting on was just part of the name of his favorite soccer team from his hometown in the UK, Scunthorpe. That's right, sCUNThorpe almost got the guy fired.

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6071614]I don't patron add that make explicit reference to any sexual services because I think it's LEO right from the start. However, can LEO place an ad for a simple massage without any sexual reference and then upon getting there you accept a sexual offer from what you think is a provider but is really an undercover and you get arrested or ticketed from it. Would that be considered entrapment?[/QUOTE]Majority of those ads ads scams anyway.

[QUOTE=BenBeck;6078498]You got that right. Someone I know got called into HR years ago because he got flagged for a high frequency of email and web traffic with illicit content. It was basically going to be a firing and exit interview, except the keyword they were hitting on was just part of the name of his favorite soccer team from his hometown in the UK, Scunthorpe. That's right, sCUNThorpe almost got the guy fired.[/QUOTE]I had to check this out some more and sure enough, it is called the sCUNThorpe Problem.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem[/URL]

[QUOTE=TJGeek;6079318]I had to check this out some more and sure enough, it is called the sCUNThorpe Problem.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scunthorpe_problem[/URL][/QUOTE]This had to be about 20 years ago when this happened, when the filters were primitive. Who knew it was common? Haha.

I don't want the hassle of getting a separate monger phone. Someone suggested the Signal app.

Has anyone used it? I don't want my normal number attached to an app, was figuring I could use it, then delete it, then reinstall when I want to use it again.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SzForLife;6081398]I don't want the hassle of getting a separate monger phone. Someone suggested the Signal app.

Has anyone used it? I don't want my normal number attached to an app, was figuring I could use it, then delete it, then reinstall when I want to use it again.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been using textfree 60 min of free calling per month over wifi. One of the working girls turned me on to it.

[QUOTE=SzForLife;6081398]I don't want the hassle of getting a separate monger phone. Someone suggested the Signal app.

Has anyone used it? I don't want my normal number attached to an app, was figuring I could use it, then delete it, then reinstall when I want to use it again.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think any of the apps will work if you just don't want someone to google the number and find you immediately but I also feel people naively believe using apps like that make them totally anonymous, anything you do on your phone even on wifi is tied to your device ID and you apple ID (assume the same for android too). See notes from apple for app developers about what data they can get and share with data brokers who link their app's data with data from other apps.

[URL]https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/[/URL]#linked-data.

"Tracking" refers to linking data collected from your app about a particular end-user or device, such as a user ID, device ID, or profile, with Third-Party Data for targeted advertising or advertising measurement purposes, or sharing data collected from your app about a particular end-user or device with a data broker.

I have had Signal for a while but never use it for hobbying since I think it links your number to a name. But that could be how I set it up. Now whenever anyone in my contacts adds Signal, they show up: Jayp80 is now on Signal, TJGeek is now on Signal.

I do use TextFree (the free version) but I will say that I assume that app shows up by name since I sometimes get random calls and those calls show up on my iPhone screen as 312-xxx-xxxx Text Free call. Providers that claim to not want calls from apps would reject those texts, I assume. But I have not tested with a friend to see how it shows up since I don't have any friends who know I hobby.

[QUOTE=DWaits;6082196]I have had Signal for a while but never use it for hobbying since I think it links your number to a name. But that could be how I set it up. Now whenever anyone in my contacts adds Signal, they show up: Jayp80 is now on Signal, TJGeek is now on Signal.

I do use TextFree (the free version) but I will say that I assume that app shows up by name since I sometimes get random calls and those calls show up on my iPhone screen as 312-xxx-xxxx Text Free call. Providers that claim to not want calls from apps would reject those texts, I assume. But I have not tested with a friend to see how it shows up since I don't have any friends who know I hobby.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, I'm not on Signal and don't have it on my phone. Perhaps another TJGeek?

Is it just me or is anyone else cautious or all around avoid providers that are Cardate only? Almost seems like a streetwalker working from home. My other thing is I wouldn't want to donate much for a Cardate. I don't think they should be more than 100,150 tops. I e see puke also offer as advice to have an idea of where you're going to have the car date. If you don't know the area well or at all that makes this more difficult. I'd never let the pick the spot.

[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6083089]Is it just me or is anyone else cautious or all around avoid providers that are Cardate only? Almost seems like a streetwalker working from home. My other thing is I wouldn't want to donate much for a Cardate. I don't think they should be more than 100,150 tops. I e see puke also offer as advice to have an idea of where you're going to have the car date. If you don't know the area well or at all that makes this more difficult. I'd never let the pick the spot.[/QUOTE]I would never consider paying more than $40 or $50 for a cardate. Afterall, they are nothing more than glorified SW's.

[QUOTE=TJGeek;6082575]As far as I know, I'm not on Signal and don't have it on my phone. Perhaps another TJGeek?[/QUOTE]LOL. I was just using you and Jayp80 as examples since your posts were around the original question. It was easier than Friend A and Friend B.

I know Dominique has been retired for years now, but I'm trying to find at least a massuse who has a McCaw. It was really nice getting a massage and a body glide from her while listening to the McCaw make it sounds. Felt like I was in the tropics, LOL.

[QUOTE=Jayp80;6081498]I think any of the apps will work if you just don't want someone to google the number and find you immediately but I also feel people naively believe using apps like that make them totally anonymous, anything you do on your phone even on wifi is tied to your device ID and you apple ID (assume the same for android too). See notes from apple for app developers about what data they can get and share with data brokers who link their app's data with data from other apps.

[URL]https://developer.apple.com/app-store/app-privacy-details/[/URL]#linked-data.

"Tracking" refers to linking data collected from your app about a particular end-user or device, such as a user ID, device ID, or profile, with Third-Party Data for targeted advertising or advertising measurement purposes, or sharing data collected from your app about a particular end-user or device with a data broker.[/QUOTE]Understand that I will not get involved in the technical discussions because I am ignorant on how things work. But I found this post interesting. Do you know why we debate these issues in this forum? Because the laws aren't clear. Politicians make a lot of noise about reigning in tech companies and the apps they use. But that's as far as it gets. There have been several stories in the past few days about companies either selling data illegally to private companies or, in one case, giving info to law enforcement or turning over biometric info. You're not safe. I don't what the app or company policy tells you. It also doesn't seem to matter to companies or law enforcement what the laws say. Once you login, you're toast. The next development will be innocent sounding apps that will rope you in and then threaten to tell the world what you are up to. Be careful, fellow mongers!

[QUOTE=Ump1969;6085711]Understand that I will not get involved in the technical discussions because I am ignorant on how things work. But I found this post interesting. Do you know why we debate these issues in this forum? Because the laws aren't clear. Politicians make a lot of noise about reigning in tech companies and the apps they use. But that's as far as it gets. There have been several stories in the past few days about companies either selling data illegally to private companies or, in one case, giving info to law enforcement or turning over biometric info. You're not safe. I don't what the app or company policy tells you. It also doesn't seem to matter to companies or law enforcement what the laws say. Once you login, you're toast. The next development will be innocent sounding apps that will rope you in and then threaten to tell the world what you are up to. Be careful, fellow mongers![/QUOTE]This was exactly the point of my post, apps claim to give you invisibility but that's not the case and google / apple will turn your info over in a heartbeat once a subpoena is issued. I know this but I still use google voice, for a basic level of anonymity.

[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;6084992]I know Dominique has been retired for years now, but I'm trying to find at least a massuse who has a McCaw. It was really nice getting a massage and a body glide from her while listening to the McCaw make it sounds. Felt like I was in the tropics, LOL.[/QUOTE]You got to be careful with those exotic birds, they can be real Peckers!

I'm looking for any good recommendations in the Bolingbrook area. Ill be working there all week.

Modeling Ave and Korean Palace both usually have incalls in Oakbrook area, which is not far.

[QUOTE=BigSexy1234;6108855]I'm looking for any good recommendations in the Bolingbrook area. Ill be working there all week.[/QUOTE]

Had a dream with Missy who is now working solo in the west burbs. Getting there was a quick ride on the 290. Service as great and she looks great as well with some weight she put on. Looks like she put down the glass duck for the real thing. LOL her new number is 630-908-5048. Price was not outrageous for the service provided! Highly recommend her.

[QUOTE=Obarr;6140383]Had a dream with Missy who is now working solo in the west burbs. Getting there was a quick ride on the 290. Service as great and she looks great as well with some weight she put on. Looks like she put down the glass duck for the real thing. LOL her new number is 630-908-5048. Price was not outrageous for the service provided! Highly recommend her.[/QUOTE]Https: She has a ad, states she won't be around long:

[URL]escortalligator.com.li[/URL]stcrawler. Eu / post / escorts / USA / illinois / chicago /93347092#.