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[QUOTE=SuprMan;2340881]Holiday was my first experience ever, it was a nice visit with an attractive slim build asain woman with long hair. Massage was nice and relaxing. HE was nice.
So far best experience go's to Atsu Cary, attractive looking asain that goes by the name Apple, great massage skills, excellent technique on the flip, good rythm.[/QUOTE]I second Apple recommendation.
[QUOTE=Sizzle5;2340811]After trying most of the places in the cary / raleigh / durham area I'd like to see where everyone ranks the AMPs they have visited.
1. Superrelax hwy 54 - Far and away the best & most consistent massage out there. To me they are head and sholder above the rest to the point where I don't know if I'll visit another place unless they get really good reviews. I find now that a good HE without an excellent massage is no longer worth my money or time. P.S. Do not shy away from the older big lady, she is the best masseuse in the state IMO.
2. Eden cary pkwy. They have been top notch for months with great massages and relatively attractive women. They are close but not quite the excellent level of #1 AMP.
3. Atsu Cary. Its been a while but I've gotten some of the best service here.
4. Westgate raleigh. They have several very quality girls and a very good / clean place.
Also feel free to throw in Non AMP girls in your list.[/QUOTE]I'm going with:
1. #28 Holiday Spa. No matter who you get, it's a good time. Happy and lighter on your feet.
2. #29 You-Relax. Angel or Coco. Hard to beat. The cavernous rooms aren't so cozy though.
3. #30 Touch of Asia. Been very good to me. Like the private room settings especially.
4. #10 Asian Massage. As the rating states, extra satisfied.
Glad to see the pluses and above are still providing good service. Do any of the ones not being mentioned need a rating change? Either up or down?
[QUOTE=Steven88;2341220]I'm going with:
1. #28 Holiday Spa. No matter who you get, it's a good time. Happy and lighter on your feet.
2. #29 You-Relax. Angel or Coco. Hard to beat. The cavernous rooms aren't so cozy though.
3. #30 Touch of Asia. Been very good to me. Like the private room settings especially.
4. #10 Asian Massage. As the rating states, extra satisfied.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sizzle5;2340811]After trying most of the places in the cary / raleigh / durham area I'd like to see where everyone ranks the AMPs they have visited.
1. Superrelax hwy 54 - Far and away the best & most consistent massage out there. To me they are head and sholder above the rest to the point where I don't know if I'll visit another place unless they get really good reviews. I find now that a good HE without an excellent massage is no longer worth my money or time. P.S. Do not shy away from the older big lady, she is the best masseuse in the state IMO.
2. Eden cary pkwy. They have been top notch for months with great massages and relatively attractive women. They are close but not quite the excellent level of #1 AMP.
3. Atsu Cary. Its been a while but I've gotten some of the best service here.
4. Westgate raleigh. They have several very quality girls and a very good / clean place.
Also feel free to throw in Non AMP girls in your list.[/QUOTE]Never disappointed at either of the two Atsu's (live near one, work near the other), as long as your expectation is for a standard rub-and-tug, it will come with a pretty decent massage at either location. Atsu is definitely my go-to.
If I want a little something extra, I'll go to Yucca. Have seen two different girls there (both have been mentioned in this thread over the past year) - definitely more on the menu there, as long as you treat them nice. Generally speaking, the massage quality hasn't been quite as good as Atsu in my experience, but the "extra extras" make up for that if that's the mood I'm in.
[QUOTE=SlantedLights;2340336]Has anyone ever looked at Holiday's wall art? It's hilarious. It says "Sample text here" in scripty fonts. I think they were supposed to provide the text when they ordered it.[/QUOTE]That cracks me up every time! I tried to explain to one of the girls once why I found it so funny, but I couldn't get the point across due to the language barrier.
[QUOTE=Rubbed;2341379]Never disappointed at either of the two Atsu's (live near one, work near the other), as long as your expectation is for a standard rub-and-tug, it will come with a pretty decent massage at either location. Atsu is definitely my go-to.
If I want a little something extra, I'll go to Yucca. Have seen two different girls there (both have been mentioned in this thread over the past year) - definitely more on the menu there, as long as you treat them nice. Generally speaking, the massage quality hasn't been quite as good as Atsu in my experience, but the "extra extras" make up for that if that's the mood I'm in.[/QUOTE]Would love some details on the Yucca menu. The only time I stopped there the door was locked. It was around 1 pm.
[QUOTE=SlantedLights;2342133]Would love some details on the Yucca menu. The only time I stopped there the door was locked. It was around 1 pm.[/QUOTE]Let me start by saying I'm still relatively new to this hobby (just under 2 years now) - but I feel pretty comfortable saying that in the three places I go to (the two Atsus and Yucca), the overall experience has a lot to do with your "relationship" with your provider. Meaning, YMMV.
My Yucca experience: The very first time I went there, my massage ended with my provider completely nude, with me enjoying some play up top and FIV. Massage, however, wasn't really that good at all. If you're asking about FS or BJ being on the menu, no, that hasn't been my personal experience. Generally, though, I've found the girls at Yucca to be more willing to lose the clothing and let you "play" a little.
By comparison, I visit both Atsu's much more frequently. My "regular girl" does not provide a fully nude service, but my overall experience with her is always top notch. Aside from giving a really good massage, I've built my relationship with her over the time that I've seen her to the point where I get a very playful, even "intimate" experience. The service I get from her today is definitely more "personal" than the first time I saw her. Little things like the big hug and smile I get when I walk in now. She is genuinely happy to see me, because I tell her how pretty she is, bring her little gifts now and then, little things to make her feel good. She "helps" me get undressed. She gets playful drying me off after the table shower. She tells me she likes when I caress her while she's massaging me (and often puts MY hands where SHE wants them). She (now) allows me UTC (it wasn't until my 3rd or 4th visit with her that I got this, and it was she who initiated it). She knows she is, and giggles about, "teasing" me in various ways (not always with just her hands) during our sessions. It's as close to GFE as I think I'll get at an AMP with her, and that's why I keep going back to her. And I think that's partly my point in the first sentence above. The service you get is going to have a lot to do with your relationship with the provider. Yes, in this business, it's all about $ for all of these girls. No question. Some will be more willing than others to go "above and beyond" to earn it. Within whatever rules or boundaries the establishment you're in has set for their girls.
Personally, I've tried a few other AMPs, and found things to be pretty similar across the board. I have no reason to NOT go back to where I know I'll enjoy the experience. If the mood strikes me a "a little more", I have a backup. I don't expect FS or BJ anywhere. Maybe it happens, but short of possibly with a private provider, I don't believe it is the norm at AMPs in our area. For the most part, I think there are plenty of places on JimJim's list that will be a guaranteed "happy ending" in terms of rub-and-tug. But if you're looking for a whole lot more (and a guarantee that you'll get it), you'll need to find a private provider, or be looking at BP and / or CL for "escorts" or other services. And take the risks that come with those options. Don't expect a 4-course meal with a fine wine at McDonalds. Set your expectations realistically, and you'll be happy.
I stopped by right after they opened. Drew a nice petite young spinner. Left happy, not sure if more might be available. 50 tip + 70 for the hour.
[QUOTE=Rubbed;2343016]
By comparison, I visit both Atsu's much more frequently. My "regular girl" does not provide a fully nude service, but my overall experience with her is always top notch. Aside from giving a really good massage, I've built my relationship with her over the time that I've seen her to the point where I get a very playful, even "intimate" experience. The service I get from her today is definitely more "personal" than the first time I saw her. Little things like the big hug and smile I get when I walk in now. She is genuinely happy to see me, because I tell her how pretty she is, bring her little gifts now and then, little things to make her feel good. She "helps" me get undressed. She gets playful drying me off after the table shower. She tells me she likes when I caress her while she's massaging me (and often puts MY hands where SHE wants them). She (now) allows me UTC (it wasn't until my 3rd or 4th visit with her that I got this, and it was she who initiated it). She knows she is, and giggles about, "teasing" me in various ways (not always with just her hands) during our sessions. It's as close to GFE as I think I'll get at an AMP with her, and that's why I keep going back to her. And I think that's partly my point in the first sentence above. The service you get is going to have a lot to do with your relationship with the provider. Yes, in this business, it's all about $ for all of these girls. No question. Some will be more willing than others to go "above and beyond" to earn it. Within whatever rules or boundaries the establishment you're in has set for their girls.
[/QUOTE]Which Atsu is this?
[QUOTE=Rubbed;2343016]Let me start by saying I'm still relatively new to this hobby (just under 2 years now) - but I feel pretty comfortable saying that in the three places I go to (the two Atsus and Yucca), the overall experience has a lot to do with your "relationship" with your provider. Meaning, YMMV.
My Yucca experience: The very first time I went there, my massage ended with my provider completely nude, with me enjoying some play up top and FIV. Massage, however, wasn't really that good at all. If you're asking about FS or BJ being on the menu, no, that hasn't been my personal experience. Generally, though, I've found the girls at Yucca to be more willing to lose the clothing and let you "play" a little.
By comparison, I visit both Atsu's much more frequently. My "regular girl" does not provide a fully nude service, but my overall experience with her is always top notch. Aside from giving a really good massage, I've built my relationship with her over the time that I've seen her to the point where I get a very playful, even "intimate" experience. The service I get from her today is definitely more "personal" than the first time I saw her. Little things like the big hug and smile I get when I walk in now. She is genuinely happy to see me, because I tell her how pretty she is, bring her little gifts now and then, little things to make her feel good. She "helps" me get undressed. She gets playful drying me off after the table shower. She tells me she likes when I caress her while she's massaging me (and often puts MY hands where SHE wants them). She (now) allows me UTC (it wasn't until my 3rd or 4th visit with her that I got this, and it was she who initiated it). She knows she is, and giggles about, "teasing" me in various ways (not always with just her hands) during our sessions. It's as close to GFE as I think I'll get at an AMP with her, and that's why I keep going back to her. And I think that's partly my point in the first sentence above. The service you get is going to have a lot to do with your relationship with the provider. Yes, in this business, it's all about $ for all of these girls. No question. Some will be more willing than others to go "above and beyond" to earn it. Within whatever rules or boundaries the establishment you're in has set for their girls.
Personally, I've tried a few other AMPs, and found things to be pretty similar across the board. I have no reason to NOT go back to where I know I'll enjoy the experience. If the mood strikes me a "a little more", I have a backup. I don't expect FS or BJ anywhere. Maybe it happens, but short of possibly with a private provider, I don't believe it is the norm at AMPs in our area. For the most part, I think there are plenty of places on JimJim's list that will be a guaranteed "happy ending" in terms of rub-and-tug. But if you're looking for a whole lot more (and a guarantee that you'll get it), you'll need to find a private provider, or be looking at BP and / or CL for "escorts" or other services. And take the risks that come with those options. Don't expect a 4-course meal with a fine wine at McDonalds. Set your expectations realistically, and you'll be happy.[/QUOTE]Everything you said is right on the money. Everyone's milage will vary depending on the relationship or if you are real lucky and catch a "me so horny" girl on a particular day. Other than RR, Wind Chime (both gone) and VIP all of these places are pretty much the same. That said, there are or were places like I said on a certain day or certain provider FS is available but this is not a walk in guranteed thing. I can say this now because all 3 girls are gone. I was able to score FS at Duraleigh Rd.
2 stores in Cary, Studio Salon sorry can't say the second one. All happened in the shower room. Can't say any names besides these ladies are not around anymore. My point is, FS is not normal on these stores agenda but possible depending what the previous post said. YMMV is true with these places on ANY given day.
[QUOTE=Steven88;2343469]Which Atsu is this?[/QUOTE]My regular girl is in Garner. Similar, though not quite as "personal" service in Cary. I'm sure the difference is in how frequently I visit. I'm in Garner every 2-weeks or so. More like once a month or 6-weeks in Cary. In both cases, though, it was several (3-4, at least) visits before there was a noticeable difference in the level service.
XHIPPIE. Did I read you right? You scored FS at Apex Spa on Duraleigh Rd back in the day but now all 3 girls are gone?? Any names you can offer or where these girls are now? That's pretty far reach from.
Duraleigh Rd today. I just don't know.
[QUOTE=Jerrysssss;2344404]XHIPPIE. Did I read you right? You scored FS at Apex Spa on Duraleigh Rd back in the day but now all 3 girls are gone?? Any names you can offer or where these girls are now? That's pretty far reach from.
Duraleigh Rd today. I just don't know.[/QUOTE]You may have misunderstood my post. Not all 3 girls were at Duraleigh Rd. 1 there and the other 2 at two different stores in Cary.
Yes at Duraleigh Rd. The point of my post is these places Duraleigh and all the rest are not the typical FS establishments BUT it is possible depending on the situation / relationship. I'm sure there are guys reading this right now that have someone they are banging at some of these stores that we read about all the time. A lot of these girls are single or have husbands back in China they haven't been in bed with for months, they see naked bodies everyday. They get horny like any other woman. If you have a good relationship with one of these girls or she just likes what she see's and her mood is right BAM FS!
I will say when I got FS at these places I was surprised as anyone I thought I had hit the lottery. And after the first time it was not like when I walked in it was a FS visit it was strictly her call. These girls are VERY selective because their job is on the line.
So I'm not saying Duraleigh Rd is a FS place only that anything is possible at any of these places that has been my personal experience.
Names? Where they are? who knows all these ladies use the same names and change them from city to city. The standard they went back to NY. For example one of the girls was Wendy ( I see some of you guys smiling out there you had her too) who knows where she is or what her name is now.
With the exception of Wendy who told everyone she was their one and only. Most of the regular AMP girls are really discrete.
If not they are back to New York or sent elsewhere. So giving names serves no purpose. Most if they ever will, will only do with VERY trusted regulars who treat them nice. And that means they are very selective. They can't let anyone know about it and if they are named or the word gets out they stop or are moved. Don't ever expect it, if that's what you want go to the known easy places. Also it's definately prohibited by most regular AMPs. Look at the places that have been closed, they were mostly the easy places. I can name 3 at lease that were loose and are now closed because of that. If you luck out, enjoy, it's better than a real date since they are usally very horney to do it. Also just because a girl does it with one or two she will not do with everyone.
[QUOTE=XHippie;2345134]You may have misunderstood my post. Not all 3 girls were at Duraleigh Rd. 1 there and the other 2 at two different stores in Cary.
Yes at Duraleigh Rd. The point of my post is these places Duraleigh and all the rest are not the typical FS establishments BUT it is possible depending on the situation / relationship. I'm sure there are guys reading this right now that have someone they are banging at some of these stores that we read about all the time. A lot of these girls are single or have husbands back in China they haven't been in bed with for months, they see naked bodies everyday. They get horny like any other woman. If you have a good relationship with one of these girls or she just likes what she see's and her mood is right BAM FS!
I will say when I got FS at these places I was surprised as anyone I thought I had hit the lottery. And after the first time it was not like when I walked in it was a FS visit it was strictly her call. These girls are VERY selective because their job is on the line.
So I'm not saying Duraleigh Rd is a FS place only that anything is possible at any of these places that has been my personal experience.
Names? Where they are? who knows all these ladies use the same names and change them from city to city. The standard they went back to NY. For example one of the girls was Wendy ( I see some of you guys smiling out there you had her too) who knows where she is or what her name is now.[/QUOTE]
I even had it happen at SuperRelax on Six Forks before they closed. There was a very, very cute young (to me at least) girl. She was all business, massage only. I couldn't help but go back since she was so damn hot. I figured that even if there was no HE and virtually no flirting or sensual contact, I got so worked up just being in the same room with her that I could be a stallion with my wife that evening (while imagining the girl). I kept tipping the usual for a HE massage even though I wasn't getting one. She started looking forward to my visits. Became very cheerful to see me. I wasn't a member of the board back then, but if I was you would have scolded me for tipping so much.
Then one day, without any warning, HE. After that, it was not every time I went, just sometimes. Then one day, I thought she was going to give me a happy ending. I closed my eyes and waited for the pleasure to start. Suddenly, I realized that this was not a happy ending. I was inside her, bare back cowgirl. I was stunned. It was the last thing I ever expected. I lasted all of about 30 seconds. It happened once or twice more before she "went back to NY". That was a sad day. I miss her whenever I think about her.
I haven't had the same luck since. Of course, I haven't singled out a provider and treated her as well either. If any mongers out there can PM any suggestions I am all ears, especially for establishments that are conveniently located for me such as #6, #17, #19, #21, #34. I know, a bunch of "CC" and "P-" establishments, so I'm not expecting many PMs. But if someone out there knows someone who might be responsive to a polite, repeat, generous customer, I'd appreciate the info before wasting my money.