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Who fucking cares. They're all ****** and the white knights who think they are saving them are just going to lose their money and end up broke and lonely, as they already are. It's a lose-lose situation trying to date or play with these girls outside of work. If you think you can turn a hoe into a housewife go ahead, doesn't effect my life one bit. Also referring to providers as "close friends" should show you just how delusional this guy is.
[QUOTE=SureYourRight;3629034]I don't understand what you expect to accomplish by asking the provider directly about something you read here, especially if you reference this place as where you heard it.[/QUOTE]Seriously this only matters when drama queens make a huge deal about it. It's a public forum, because a chick finds it doesn't mean a guy showed it to her and if he did big fucking deal.
I'm seeing that you like to white knight under the guise of being an advocate for providers so let me help you. Work it like this next time.
You: So, I want my dick sucked and I have this money, do you want it.
Her: Some random bullshit about the forum and guys doing something she doesn't like and laying her hooker drama on you.
You: So, do you want this money or not? If you don't, do you know somebody who does?
That's it, that's all you got to do. No really, just do that.
A2.
[QUOTE=Brudda1;3630100]Who fucking cares. They're all ****** and the white knights who think they are saving them are just going to lose their money and end up broke and lonely, as they already are. It's a lose-lose situation trying to date or play with these girls outside of work. If you think you can turn a hoe into a housewife go ahead, doesn't effect my life one bit. Also referring to providers as "close friends" should show you just how delusional this guy is.[/QUOTE]Speaking like a man who have been there and done that. Same here.
They are not that stupid who will rely on customers.
Why are mongers, especially cery well known "famous" mongers, so appealing to them?
Think.
Popular users here are NOT so young, handsome, well fit 6' stud. And though he spends a lot, he can't conpensate 30 k net income a month. Remember even bullpen staying spare pro earns as much as 10 k a month. Super popular girls get at least 7 guys a day. Maybe 10 a day on average. 1. 5 K a day.
Oh but he is kind and knows about women's mind!
Good.
So girls will trust on true love with mongers?? Man who always rate "women's value on age, looks, sex skill, and tail wagging attitude?? Come on, we don't consider what major she was in at college, what trauma she has in her past, what history she has.
They know this month's sugar daddy may lose all the pension soon or he will go to new pretty one when she reject BBFS or gain a little weight.
Enjoy girls. And don't believe you can deceive pro's brain. They are not that dumb.
If she fall in love and quit their job when they save money enough, he will be someone that she meet out of AMP who doesn' know about her job. A guy who just think her foreign parents sent a lit of money for new starting with him.
As many think "prostitutes" as someone with less value than outside civilian girls. Pros believe mongers are someone who CAN'T HAVE normal relationship with normal women!!
[QUOTE=Goser;3629729]I assume you include me as one of the two so called shill mongers. First of all, I am no shill. I enjoy this hobby across all AMPs and I write reviews of girls I like. I am a frequent monger so I get to know the mamas and the girls pretty well. I am friends with many Korean AMP girls and many go out with me on civilian dates and trips. The most recent was Monday for lunch. I will defend girls from idiots like SimpletonK who is clearly a misogynist and lies about the girls. Second of all, I did not share any discussion on this message board with Miki. She would read it herself. Her command of English is surprisingly good. In fact, I did not ask for her number. She asked for mine after I saw her for the first time. She used to text me several times per day for some unknown reason on many topics. Perhaps it was because I am a nice guy. I have dozens of text messages from her from conversations she initiated. After you posted you have her I'd, I received many text messages saying she never gave her I'd out to anyone. She claimed that you are a liar and that she is not in her 50's. I don't care really because as others have said, she is a great provider so age doesn't matter. But, it obviously mattered a lot to her. I told her that an easy way to prove it would be to let me see her I'd and I would post the truth of what I saw. She refused. I asked you for clarification on the circumstances surrounding getting the ID. You had a convincing story. I posted that earlier in this thread. Since she was probably stalking my every post, I am sure she saw it and got pissed off that I posted that I believed your story. So, she stopped texting me last Monday and then by Tuesday she left Pine Tree. On Monday, I told her to stop reading the message board. I said that the best practice for girls is to ignore it. The Happiness girls laugh at the posts and honestly don't care what you post. This is true at least the ones I am closest friends with don't care. That day, she said she was tired of the disrespect she was getting from the guys and she was going to leave. If you knew anything of her life story, you would know why, but I won't reveal any of it so don't ask. I tried to convince her to stay. I failed. So yes, you make assumptions and you are wrong. It doesn't surprise me. Surfer dudes are known to be pretty dumb people. You are proving yourself to be no exception.[/QUOTE]"Surfer dudes are known to be pretty dumb people. " BULLSHIT! This is out and out stereotyping! So who's the next group of people going to be who you think you can get away with insulting with broad strokes? This is kind of like when some young guy comes on this board and disrespects old men, then too late the guy discovers there's a small army of us on here! Same thing in this situation, in your stupidity you apparently don't realize how many of us surfers there are on this forum! This is Hawaii, fucker!
[QUOTE=Brudda1;3630100]Who fucking cares. They're all ****** and the white knights who think they are saving them are just going to lose their money and end up broke and lonely, as they already are. It's a lose-lose situation trying to date or play with these girls outside of work. If you think you can turn a hoe into a housewife go ahead, doesn't effect my life one bit. Also referring to providers as "close friends" should show you just how delusional this guy is.[/QUOTE]Yeah been there done that. It's a rookie move. I did it when I started in this hobby cause I thought sex was sacred. That I was somehow special out of all the other guys she is fucking. Yeah right. I keep that type of thinking strictly to certain non working girls only. LOL.
Once I was fucking an AMP girl at my place. She was relatively new, like only been in the business for 6 months. I said casually while fucking her, so you fucked 200 guys huh? She says, "No, more than that. " Think you special LOL? I was just the hot dog she was getting at the moment. Yeah it was bareback in my bed but was I really the only one while she used a condom with everyone else. Brain fucked is what happens when you mess with them out of the AMP. When you text her you miss her and she don't answer back right away, I imagine if she is fucking at the moment and is she thinking of me or really enjoying it. Brain fucked! LOL.
Date or get "close" to a working girl equals brainfuckedness.
[QUOTE=Goser;3629729]I am a little old crybaby *****[/QUOTE]That's funny how to start your rant you had to compliment yourself like 10 times. What's more funny is how much you lie in the Happiness thread which shows the bullshit you are complimenting yourself with is bullshit as well. God damn your life must be sad. I really feel sorry for you now. I don't even know why I'm wasting my time with someone as pathetic as you. Who compliments themself on a message board with bullshit? And yes, you are full of shit in the happiness thread and I know that for a fact. The girls you claim so much to be in their 20's and showed you their I'd bullshit. One bullshit after another. Remember now, how else I know you are a senior citizen? How else I know about the kakimochi cookies? Because I actually know some of them and not as just a customer like your social security collecting ass is and they tell me the truth. You just get more and more pathetic. Love how you complimented yourself 10 times before saying an actual sentence. LOL.
[QUOTE=DeMeter;3630576]They are not that stupid who will rely on customers.
Why are mongers, especially cery well known "famous" mongers, so appealing to them?
Think.
Popular users here are NOT so young, handsome, well fit 6' stud. And though he spends a lot, he can't conpensate 30 k net income a month. Remember even bullpen staying spare pro earns as much as 10 k a month. Super popular girls get at least 7
Don't we allguys a day. Maybe 10 a day on average. 1. 5 K a day.
Oh but he is kind and knows about women's mind!
Good.
So girls will trust on true love with mongers?? Man who always rate "women's value on age, looks, sex skill, and tail wagging attitude?? Come on, we don't consider what major she was in at college, what trauma she has in her past, what history she has.
They know this month's sugar daddy may lose all the pension soon or he will go to new pretty one when she reject BBFS or gain a little weight.
Enjoy girls. And don't believe you can deceive pro's brain. They are not that dumb.
If she fall in love and quit their job when they save money enough, he will be someone that she meet out of AMP who doesn' know about her job. A guy who just think her foreign parents sent a lit of money for new starting with him.
As many think "prostitutes" as someone with less value than outside civilian girls. Pros believe mongers are someone who CAN'T HAVE normal relationship with normal women!![/QUOTE]Would love to know who the Grand Mongers to them is / are. Not the gold digger ones neither. The ones who love to fuck only. I know they talk. Especially when it comes to bad mongers but I got to believe a good list exists too albeit a less talked about one I'm assuming LOL.
I'm sure I'm on some radars hahaha jk. (Don't we all?)
....waiting for the Dr to drop another serving of the humblebrag deep dish
Hey Goser man. That's good for you, that you're able to take these prostitutes out on 'civilian dates. ' I'm sure you pay for their meals / activities and lavish them with expensive gifts also. You probably enjoy every single minute of it, don't you!? Some would consider this pathetic, but hey. Whatever floats your boat. I'm not judging.
My comments were directed at those specific mongers who went directly to Miki with the discussions that were posted on this board, which ultimately affected her employment / working disposition. Contrary to what you may think or what she may have told you, Miki was not aware of this board, nor did she know how to access it, prior to someone mentioning it to her. I wouldn't have posted that she showed me her I'd (affectively identifying me to her) if I wasn't certain of this.
The only reason I posted what I knew about her age is because I'm tired of shill posts. As I said previously, people pay good money for these extracurricular activities. And they ought to know the truth. Specifically, if mongers post about specific services, prices, etc. Why aren't we allowed to posts about a provider's age? Especially if other mongers are obviously exaggerating the 'youth' of these so-called 20 or 30 year olds, when they are in fact much older. How many times did any of you go see a provider because you were expecting to see a 20-something year old (based on what other shills have posted) only to encounter a much older woman? That's all I'm saying.
As for Miki. She's a prostitute and when the bills start coming in, or she wants to buy a new LV bag, she'll come back to work just like the rest of them. She told me a lot also. And based on what I know of her obligations, she'll definitely come back. It's only a matter of time.
As an aside, Miki's English is not as good as you say. She sounds more like an Ajumma or Halmeoni, trying to speak English. Again, your shilling is quite obvious bro!
[QUOTE=Goser;3629729]I assume you include me as one of the two so called shill mongers. First of all, I am no shill. I enjoy this hobby across all AMPs and I write reviews of girls I like. I am a frequent monger so I get to know the mamas and the girls pretty well. I am friends with many Korean AMP girls and many go out with me on civilian dates and trips. The most recent was Monday for lunch. I will defend girls from idiots like SimpletonK who is clearly a misogynist and lies about the girls. Second of all, I did not share any discussion on this message board with Miki. She would read it herself. Her command of English is surprisingly good. In fact, I did not ask for her number. She asked for mine after I saw her for the first time. She used to text me several times per day for some unknown reason on many topics. Perhaps it was because I am a nice guy. I have dozens of text messages from her from conversations she initiated. After you posted you have her I'd, I received many text messages saying she never gave her I'd out to anyone. She claimed that you are a liar and that she is not in her 50's. I don't care really because as others have said, she is a great provider so age doesn't matter. But, it obviously mattered a lot to her. I told her that an easy way to prove it would be to let me see her I'd and I would post the truth of what I saw. She refused. I asked you for clarification on the circumstances surrounding getting the ID. You had a convincing story. I posted that earlier in this thread. Since she was probably stalking my every post, I am sure she saw it and got pissed off that I posted that I believed your story. So, she stopped texting me last Monday and then by Tuesday she left Pine Tree. On Monday, I told her to stop reading the message board. I said that the best practice for girls is to ignore it. The Happiness girls laugh at the posts and honestly don't care what you post. This is true at least the ones I am closest friends with don't care. That day, she said she was tired of the disrespect she was getting from the guys and she was going to leave. If you knew anything of her life story, you would know why, but I won't reveal any of it so don't ask. I tried to convince her to stay. I failed. So yes, you make assumptions and you are wrong. It doesn't surprise me. Surfer dudes are known to be pretty dumb people. You are proving yourself to be no exception.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tyrus;3630653]Would love to know who the Grand Mongers to them is / are. Not the gold digger ones neither. The ones who love to fuck only. I know they talk. Especially when it comes to bad mongers but I got to believe a good list exists too albeit a less talked about one I'm assuming LOL.
I'm sure I'm on some radars hahaha jk. (Don't we all?)
....waiting for the Dr to drop another serving of the humblebrag deep dish[/QUOTE]I don't choose, walk in and get anyone with skirt.
Very short foreplay, quick shot and go home in most visit.
My jr is tiny and always (ok not always but most times) cover guy.
Who will not welcome me!
If you are a papasan, even you will love seeing me!
The only reason I posted what I knew about her age is because I'm tired of shill posts. As I said previously, people pay good money for these extracurricular activities. And they ought to know the truth. Specifically, if mongers post about specific services, prices, etc. Why aren't we allowed to posts about a provider's age? Especially if other mongers are obviously exaggerating the 'youth' of these so-called 20 or 30 year olds, when they are in fact much older. How many times did any of you go see a provider because you were expecting to see a 20-something year old (based on what other shills have posted) only to encounter a much older woman? That's all I'm saying.
I totally agree with you. This is supposed to be an informative forum for us mongers. I read it to get info and give info and for sure all the information leads up to me wanting to try a provider. Age sometimes plays into this too. So backing up providers is far from where I'm at. They are all working girls trying to suck all the money they can from us and that's the bottom line. This is one of our ways to get information and make informative decisions. I will continue to post as I see it and have it with the boys in mind not a hoe.
I guess Goser going to have Thanksgiving dinner at Happiness. LOL.
[QUOTE=Tyrus;3630653]Would love to know who the Grand Mongers to them is / are. Not the gold digger ones neither. The ones who love to fuck only. I know they talk. Especially when it comes to bad mongers but I got to believe a good list exists too albeit a less talked about one I'm assuming LOL.
I'm sure I'm on some radars hahaha jk. (Don't we all?)
....waiting for the Dr to drop another serving of the humblebrag deep dish[/QUOTE]Sex is funny. Some women really enjoy it.
But when it is "professional job", is it possible that sex is pure enjoyment with clients?
A chef chose and keep that hard job cause he loves cooking. But he works, it is different matter. He must think more than pure enjoy. People's rate on his job, employer's trust on his working, damn political consideration in that small working place.
I guess sex is same.
When her sex is rated openly and her pleasure us not main thing to do, it is just a job.
She can enjoy it with "limited" favorate customers (based on feeling comfortable with well known regualrs / dude's good looking, etc) in "limited" time, but feeling orgasm for 10 hrs a day even when she is damn sleepy or heard bad news about her kids in China doesn't make sense.
So. We just enjoy spectacle movie. That's it. Meet robin williams and laugh, donate money to him that's all. He may have depression behind the scene. Meet batman but let's thank christian bale's wonderful acting instead of believing that hero will really save me after curtain call.
And another issue here.
If I really want to help my favorate pro's biz, I will not exaggerate her looks, service that much.
Cause it will eventually hurt her business bringing too much expectation to her future newbie customers.
If I feel she is 40's I will say it with honesty adding "she fullfilled my dream of stiffler's mom fantasy. Damn she myst be horny sexy MILF who prefer 30 years old single molt". Instead of perfect body perfect face, I will say she may not be beauty queen but damn sexy to me and I enjoyed her huge natural tits (just not adding her extra pounds on belly LOL).
Think. When we expect 5 star hotel grade dish, we will be disappointed very easily, even trivial fault can be fatal.
But if we just expect "special menu" from mr. Woong's restaurant in shady alley, we may get more satisfied than disappointed.
To make more clients, giving too much expectation is not good starategy in this too open-too quick delivery world.
[QUOTE=SureYourRight;3629934]I don't know if you guys remember but before Sasha went on vacation there was a lengthy discussion (spanning weeks) about how many customers she was doing BB. It got to the point where guys were speculating on how much liquid was being pumped into her on a daily basis. "Surprisingly" word got back to Happiness about it and we all know how women (and some of you men) love to "talk". It should be no surprise that a few weeks later Sasha takes a looooong vacation. Now why does that matter you say? Girls go on vacation all the time right? What matters is one of you boys used this information to manipulate / create a narrative, and then tried to offer her a "safe space" to get away from all the drama. Pretty much using this forum to pressure someone into being your little live-in fuck doll under the guise of helping them. This isn't the first time someone has gone to a provider with questions from here but whoever it is (You know who you are and you aren't the only one trying this) seriously needs to stop trying to white-knight his way into these women's lives.
Also another tip, if this post gets back to Happiness and I read "I asked Sasha about" I'd pretty much call that exposing yourself. Sasha isn't the problem here. It's the men of this forum.[/QUOTE]Asking pro is meaningless.
I don't think those women will be 100% honest when they deal with clients.
They will be honest when they be sure it is time to retire and she has money saving enough to never come back.
But no pro in action on duty will be 100% honest.
When mongers say "good attitude". Which contains "her acting" to please him. Saying what he wants to hear is one part of her job. As she will say "I like men with weight" when she is with big men while she will say "I like slender man. Good clothing hanger. " When she iw with skinny men. It can never be 100% true unless she reject customer saying "I don't need money from you. Stop and go and never try me again. Never ever".
[QUOTE=HornyBoy13;3631100]I guess Goser going to have Thanksgiving dinner at Happiness. LOL.[/QUOTE]I second that LOL.