So in addition to being stupid you're a racist as well
Her psychiatric residency was at New York University, where she earned a Laughlin Fellowship from The American College of Psychiatrists as one of 10 outstanding psychiatric residents in the United States.
Much of her professional career was spent at the Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, New York, where she held several leadership positions including Director of Nuclear Medicine, Chairman of the Medical Department, and Associate Laboratory Director for Life Sciences. Dr. Volkow was also a professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Associate Dean of the Medical School at The State University of New York at Stony Brook.
Dr. Volkow has published more than 800 peer-reviewed articles, written more than 100 book chapters, manuscripts and articles, co-edited "Neuroscience in the 21st Century" and edited four books on brain imaging for mental and substance use disorders.
She received a Nathan Davis Award for Outstanding Government Service, was a Samuel J. Heyman Service to America Medal (Sammies) finalist and is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and the Association of American Physicians. Dr. Volkow received the International Prize from the French Institute of Health and Medical Research for her pioneering work in brain imaging and addiction science; was awarded the Carnegie Prize in Mind and Brain Sciences from Carnegie Mellon University; and was inducted into the Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit / Hyperactivity Disorder (CHADD) Hall of Fame. She was named one of Time magazine's "Top 100 People Who Shape Our World"; one of "20 People to Watch" by Newsweek magazine; Washingtonian magazine's "100 Most Powerful Women"; "Innovator of the Year" by USA News & World Report; and one of "34 Leaders Who Are Changing Health Care" by Fortune magazine.
She a fucking Carnegie Inductee. The shit that comes out of her ass has a higher IQ than you do.
Would you care to share when and where you did your Residency, where you have practiced and what articles you have published? Yeah, I thought so.
Thanks for playing.
[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6429472]Quoting from a MEXICAN EDUCATED "M. D. " who is NOT EVEN LICENSED TO PRACTICE IN THE USA does NOT help your position any, Nor does the fact that Valkow is "claiming" that "addiction is a "disease" as HEAD OF A FEDERAL AGENCY to justify the on-going WASTE of federal tax dollars to that agency to, with the FAKE, NON-EXISTENT "medical proof", to insure tax dollars keep getting sent to it! 30 years of "medical proof"? BULLSHIT! A non-American "M. D. " saying "addiction is a disease" over and over is about as much "proof" as the Pope saying there is a "deity" because people have believed THAT line of bullshit for 2,000+ years! (Saying something over and over again, and having a bunch of people "believe" it for a long time does NOT MAKE THE "belief" a FACT!
When Nora Valkow has gone to an AMERICAN MEDICAL SCHOOL, and been licensed to practice as an AMERICAN MD in any state, and therefore has LEARNED what the definition of "disease" is (that gets taught in one), and CAN MATCH "addiction" TO THAT DEFINITION, then I might give her the time of day! Until then, she has about as much medical validity as Trump saying the 2020 Election was "stolen from him"!
So let's see you, Nora Valkow, or ANY accredited American Medical School faculty member do those two simple things: 1.) Lay out the definition of "disease" that gets taught in American medical schools, and 2.) SHOW how "addiction" meets that criteria! I'll wait! Laughing at Valkow as a reference in the meantime![/QUOTE]
And she still cannot match "addiction" to "disease"!
All that "Education", and she still cannot match "Addiction" to the definition of "Disease" taught in accredited American medical universities! And what state is she a licensed M. D. In?
Can she even give an md order for a brain scan, or write a prescription? Nice "Academic" credentials-but until she can articulate how "Addiction" matches "Disease" criteria, she is dumber than shit you are full of, and probably smoking as well!
You lose addict! As I am sure you have done your entire life! Don't forget-for you, suicide is an option! It will be the only thing you have ever been successful at!
[QUOTE=Admin2;6429856]Her psychiatric residency was at New York University, where she earned a Laughlin Fellowship from The American College of Psychiatrists as one of 10 outstanding psychiatric residents in the United States.
Much of her professional career was spent at the Department of Energy's Brookhaven National Laboratory in Upton, New York, where she held several leadership positions including Director of Nuclear Medicine, Chairman of the Medical Department, and Associate Laboratory Director for Life Sciences. Dr. Volkow was also a professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Associate Dean of the Medical School at The State University of New York at Stony Brook.
Dr. Volkow has published more than 800 peer-reviewed articles, written more than 100 book chapters, manuscripts and articles, co-edited "Neuroscience in the 21st Century" and edited four books on brain imaging for mental and substance use disorders..[/QUOTE]
Let's see the PROVED CONNECTION!
Quick: Post some of the "scientific research" that gives the DEFINITION OF ADDICTION, that is taught in ANY accredited medical school in the USA. Now try SHOWING in all that "vast scientific research" -and a "disease-based definition" that CONNECTS "addiction" (and all that "vast scientific research") TO "disease". I can't even find a LICENSED AMERICAN M. D. (that CAN actually write prescriptions, and order brains scans that can do this! (Nora Valkow sure as hell can't!) Saying something over and over is a "disease" does NOT make it so, anymore then saying over and over that there is a "god" (for 2,000 years now somehow "proves" that there is one!
It's 2023-not 1939. Saying something is a "disease" without PROVING IT does NOT make it such!
[QUOTE=Admin2;6434062]If the sun is shining and you keep telling people over and over that it's dark outside does that mean there is no light?
There is a VAST amount of scientific literature saying it is. I showed you some, you ignored it in your response. There are literally MILLIONS of medical practitioners that would say you are wrong, there are millions more recovering alcoholics and addicts that say you're wrong but we will just go with your story.
You can keep writing but you are convincing more people that I am correct than I am.
Here's hoping you exercise your option.
A2.[/QUOTE]
IfNor Valkow was a real MD, she would have an American license to practice!
[QUOTE=MongJuanSilver;6433612]Jesus, he's told someone (an Admin at that) to off themselves because he can't wrap his head around the concept that doctors can and do exist outside of the US, and surprisingly enough, some if not most of them are better than their "American educated" counterparts. Is there an ignore function, and the troll (at least I hope to God he's trolling) get the boot?[/QUOTE]You would think that an "M. D. " (even one of foreign-birth), who is head of a USA Government agency would at least have some American medical credentials for such-like an M. D. License, or a DEA license. Nora Valkow has neither! As a research SCIENTIST (she does not rate the term "M. D. " she has done lots of "research". But until she, or ANY AMERICAN LICENSED M. D, can make the connection between "disease" (and addiction), she is talking out of her foreiign-born, fake medical credentialed ass!
That is Right Thing to Do
[QUOTE=Admin2;6434055]What I write isn't for him. Its for anybody who might think he makes sense.[/QUOTE]When Morons spout their garbage, it is important someone speaks up with facts and intelligence as A2 is doing.
Unfortunately Morons attract morons who latch on and repeat what moron's say. It's good when someone sets the record strait with common sense, intelligence, facts, and logic.
Even thought the morons won't get it, those who might be inclined to pay attention to the morons get the truth to digest and hopefully recognizes what is correct.
A2 is correct in all accounts.
Where is "A2's" PROOF?
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6436833]When Morons spout their garbage, it is important someone speaks up with facts and intelligence as A2 is doing.
Unfortunately Morons attract morons who latch on and repeat what moron's say. It's good when someone sets the record strait with common sense, intelligence, facts, and logic.
Even thought the morons won't get it, those who might be inclined to pay attention to the morons get the truth to digest and hopefully recognizes what is correct.
A2 is correct in all accounts.[/QUOTE]And WHERE EXACTLY IS "A2's" (or any other "addiction-is-a-disease" advocate's), PROOF? The PROOF should not be THAT FUCKING HARD. Just show the MATCH between the definition of "disease" that gets taught in ANY and ALL ACCREDITED MEDICAL UNIVERSITIES, and show how this thing called "addiction" meets "disease" definition! EASY PEASY! I have worked in the "addiction treatment field" for over 21 years. Have not seen it yet! Not from local M. D. 's, or accredited medical universities, or that fake-ass M. D. Nora Valkow (and the NIDA agency she is head of! Nor ASAM, nor anyone who has won the Nobel Prize in Medicine. Maybe A2 is tracking down the "vast scinetific literature" to post that he claims exists, and therefore shows this connection. I doubt it though. ADDICTION IS A FUCKING CHOICE! Whether to a liquid, solid, gas, or activity! It is a FUCKING CHOICE IN EVERY SINGLE INSTANCE! There is NOT ONE INSTANCE of a person having ANY "addiction" involuntarily thrust upon them! No addict has ever been forced into becoming or remaining an addict BY THE DRUG, OR THE ACTIVITY! NOT ONCE! And all I want to see is some PROOF of this "disease-addiction" connection!
Still haven't seen it. Because it does not exist! Period!
Morons are, well they are Morons
Ever notice?
Morons can't admit they are wrong, and they will never admit someone who disagrees with them is right.
They will demand proof, but offer none.
When you do give proof they'll discount it, ignore it, or attack the source claiming they're not qualified to support the proof.
They also tend to make personal attacks on those who disagree with them, often in the ugliest of terms.
They tend to be bullies by nature and if they can't win with their words, they'll quickly shift to aggression and violence.
They will refuse to offer their own degrees, qualifications, or professional experience, even when politely asked for it. Yet still claim or imply they are an expert on the subject.
When losing a "discussion" they'll start to yell, type in bold, or use all capitals to substantiate how right they are. Usually just repeating what they've said before.
The bad new is they never seem to give up or just go away. They always have a need to be the one who is right. Leaving you with no choice but to ignore them or just walk away with what ever entertainment value you got from the exchange.
The serious point is that morons are dangerous. They spout ridiculous ideas that can catch on with other morons. Such as Conspiracy theories, Urban legends, Racism, Misogyny, Xenophobia, homophobia, Religious Extremism, and any old fashioned idea to inflame fear and hatred in the hearts and minds of people.
I'll repeat, I think it is good and proper that A2 shares his thoughts, when he sees misinformation being posted that is clearly incorrect and potentially harmful.
I know this deviates far from our Hobby, but I'm compelled to share these thoughts.
If only there was PROOF-and basic fucking logic!
Ever notice how when you call someone out FOR PROOF based on their delusional assertions, they disappear (as happened to "A2" These are the same mental midgets who do NOT understand that basic logic dictates that those "asserting something" have the BURDEN OF PROOF, not those denying the assertion (Example: atheists do NOT have to "prove" the NON-EXISTENCE of a "deity"! They will the argument by default when the "deity believer" CANNOT PROVE their assertion with ANY scientific evidence! Same goes for the MORONS who assert "addiction is a disease". I have worked in the substance abuse treatment field (Certified SUD counselor with a Master's degree!) for OVER 20 YEARS, and have yet to find even an M. D. That can PROVE that this thing called "addiction" meets the criteria for "disease". I can't even get a citable scientific reference on this! It is beyond pathetic that those who "assert without evidence" over and over think that because it is said over and over (for the last 80 fucking years, that it is somehow credible, believeable, or "scientifically verifiable". Then again-without these mental midgets 50% of the American voting electorate would cease to exist!
And then there is the idiocy of the liberals. . . . .
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6440864]Ever notice?
Morons can't admit they are wrong, and they will never admit someone who disagrees with them is right.
They will demand proof, but offer none.
When you do give proof they'll discount it, ignore it, or attack the source claiming they're not qualified to support the proof.
They also tend to make personal attacks on those who disagree with them, often in the ugliest of terms.
They tend to be bullies by nature and if they can't win with their words, they'll quickly shift to aggression and violence.
They will refuse to offer their own degrees, qualifications, or professional experience, even when politely asked for it. Yet still claim or imply they are an expert on the subject.
When losing a "discussion" they'll start to yell, type in bold, or use all capitals to substantiate how right they are. Usually just repeating what they've said before.
The bad new is they never seem to give up or just go away. They always have a need to be the one who is right. Leaving you with no choice but to ignore them or just walk away with what ever entertainment value you got from the exchange..[/QUOTE]
Ever seen a coerced homeless person or addict?
Maybe you are blind, but I have NEVER seen a homeless person with a gun at their head, a knife at their throat, or someone in a position of authority FORCING homelessness upon them, or addicting substances INTO THEM (please describe ONE INSTANCE where an inanimate substance FORCED ITSELF into ANY HUMAN BEING without the human being willingly, knowingly, and VOLUNTARILY acquiring and ingesting (and RE-acquiring and RE-ingesting!) the substance. People make choices. STUPID CHOICES! Addiction IS A CHOICE! PERIOD! Let those who choose it SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT! If death be their lot, then let them succeed at it! It will after all be the ONLY successful thing they have achieved!
[QUOTE=TrustyHairlip;6437371]Addiction is a choice? Sure, all those homeless addicts are choosing to live that way because that is their choice. Losing all their teeth is a choice right? Having to coerce and steal from loved ones just to get their fix is a choice right? ODing and going to the ER multiple times is a choice right? Fuck off.[/QUOTE]
Love to hear what your definition of Common sense is
Do post your "definition" of "common sense"-I could use the laugh. It can't be any less moronic then those who "think" addiction is a "disease" or that the non-existence of a deity can somehow be "proved". I'll wait.
[QUOTE=MongJuanSilver;6441500]OK, the segue into liberals at the end was both hilarious and telling of exactly what kind of person we're dealing with. No use trying folks, he's willing to drown in the lake of shit without grabbing onto the life preserver of common sense.[/QUOTE]
People like this are amongst us
[QUOTE=MongJuanSilver;6441500]OK, the segue into liberals at the end was both hilarious and telling of exactly what kind of person we're dealing with. No use trying folks, he's willing to drown in the lake of shit without grabbing onto the life preserver of common sense.[/QUOTE]So true as I also found the "liberal" comment to be ridiculous yet revealing.
But consider some other telling traits this moron exposed by his own comments.
He tells someone who disagrees with him they should off themselves.
Also he tells us he is educated, trained, and has 20 years experience in the field of substance abuse, yet says they deserve to die of their addictions.
Clearly he's ignorant, has not kept up with the advancements in his own claimed field of expertise and has an obvious contempt for the very people he says he's employed to help.
Sort of like your doctor at the cancer hospital telling you, well you choose to have cancer, you refuse to get over your cancer, thus you deserve to die of cancer.
If that isn't a WTF moment and tells us what kind of moron are we dealing with, nothing else will make it clearer.
And are we to conclude from his liberal statement he is a 'conservative' who likes and approves of conspiracy theories, urban legends, racism, bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, religious extremism, and creating fear and hatred in people's hearts? And I toss in political ideology too.
Frightening people like this, vote, and might be your neighbor, worse they might be the professional you send a love one to for help! Now there is a nightmare.
Here's your proof from the choice side!
Becoming Alcoholic by David are. Rudy (1986).
Heavy Drinking-The Myth of Alcoholism As A Disease by Herbert Fingarette (1988).
The Myth of Addiction by John Booth Davies (1992).
Addiction is a CHOICE by Jeffrey Schafer, Ph. D. (2000).
The MYTH of Addiction by D. Lance Doddes, M. D. (a real M. D. ! 2008.
The Sober Truth by Dr. Lace Doddes, M. D. (2014).
High Price by Carl Hart, Ph. D. (2014).
The Biology of Desire by Marc Lewis, Ph. D. (2015).
The Unbroken Brain by Maia Szalavitz (2016).
US of AA-How the 12 Steps HIJACKED The Science of Alcoholism by Joe Miller (2019).
Notice that 7 of the 10 cited titles are from the CURRENT CENTURY, and 5 of those 7 have been written WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS! I doubt the "disease" advocates have anything as extensive, oe as current. Each of the above titles has an EXTENSIVE bibliography of previously written scientific research.
And all I want to see is ONE BOOK, or ONE GODDDAMNED SCIENTIFIC PAPER that makes a SIMPLE FUCKING CONNECTION: 1.) What the medical school taught definition of "disease" is, and 2.) how this thing called "addiction" meets "disease" criteria. Nothing ASAM, or NIH, or NIDA has that. NONR OF THEM!
Game. Set. Match. Now go and try taking some fucking responsibility for what YOU DID TO YOU-willingly, knowingly, and voluntarily! Each and every time, with each and every use, each and every day!
Don't you wish you could do that? I thought not!
[QUOTE=MongJuanSilver;6442226]Posting any solid proof for you will be just like playing chess with a pigeon: the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyway. Others have posted evidence and links to info, which you ironically demand and ignore in the same breath, while also providing none of your own.
Do you want a good laugh? Find the mirror in your place that you never use.[/QUOTE]
Read the latest post when it gets posted
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6442120]So true as I also found the "liberal" comment to be ridiculous yet revealing.
But consider some other telling traits this moron exposed by his own comments.
He tells someone who disagrees with him they should off themselves.
Also he tells us he is educated, trained, and has 20 years experience in the field of substance abuse, yet says they deserve to die of their addictions.
Clearly he's ignorant, has not kept up with the advancements in his own claimed field of expertise and has an obvious contempt for the very people he says he's employed to help.
Sort of like your doctor at the cancer hospital telling you, well you choose to have cancer, you refuse to get over your cancer, thus you deserve to die of cancer.
If that isn't a WTF moment and tells us what kind of moron are we dealing with, nothing else will make it clearer..[/QUOTE]Go ahead and read the latest post I made (when it gets) posted-it only shows 10 books overing the last 37 years of AOD research, 5 of the 10 were published within the LAST 10 YEARS!
It is so as that you demonstrate one of those pathetic waste of oxygen consumption mindsets that CANNOT TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for one's own stupid debaucherous actions. It must be nice living on a planet like that, where willing, knowing, and voluntary acquired and engaged in behaviors are "diseases" and NOTHING is the fault of the individual who does the behavior! Tell me, does your SSI check cover THAT mental disability? As for my political beliefs, BOTH political parties are like a choice between two lethal strains of COVID (an actual fucking DISEASE by the way! And the idiots that make them up set this country back on a daily basis. It really must suck when you are as scared of the truth and current reality as you show yourself to me. I am sure your SSI check eases the pain.
A2 was right, he's just posting more Blah Blah Blah
Good for you, you can list a bunch of books, prove to me you read them.
How many books have you published in your name? How many articles on the subject at hand have you had published? Or how many pages have you contributed to other books or articles on the subject? Sharing that important information along with your name would really build a good position to support your blah blah blah.
Just because you say you have experience doesn't make it so. Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
I think you have a very loose relationship with reality.
You're clearly addicted to hostility with a profound need to argue. You should seek professional help for this "disease" you have.
Sorry but your disease of stupidly doesn’t seem curable at this time.
Your contempt and obvious hatred for the people you are supposed to be counseling and saying they deserve to die is just so revealing.
At some point bantering back en forth with you will become boring enough and you'll be ignored.
But until then as you enjoy swimming in your sea of shit, please stop trying to drown others by pulling them in with you.
I hope you were able to understand my points with out the need for me to use "colors, capitals" or other methods of adolescent ways to emphasize my posts. But I doubt that you do. By the way, I think most in here have stopped reading your shit long ago.
I'm just addicted to passing the time by giving shit back to morons.
[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6442386]Go ahead and read the latest post I made of more Blah, Blah, blah.[/QUOTE]
"Special Needs"
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6443505]Good for you, you can list a bunch of books, prove to me you read them.
How many books have you published in your name? How many articles on the subject at hand have you had published? Or how many pages have you contributed to other books or articles on the subject? Sharing that important information along with your name would really build a good position to support your blah blah blah.
Just because you say you have experience doesn't make it so. Just because you say something doesn't make it true.
I think you have a very loose relationship with reality.
You're clearly addicted to hostility with a profound need to argue. You should seek professional help for this "disease" you have.
Sorry but your disease of stupidly doesnt seem curable at this time.
Your contempt and obvious hatred for the people you are supposed to be counseling and saying they deserve to die is just so revealing..[/QUOTE]You are a "special" kind of stupid aren't ya? If you are one of those 12 Step believing pathetic wastes of oxygen consumption who thinks the "Experience of being an addict" makes them an expert to comment on addiction, then would you please upgrade to the fentanyl you so desperately need, and rid this planet of the pathetic waste of oxygen consumption that is. Your. Existence!
People with fully, functional brains, do not need addictive substances to deal with the reality of life on a daily basis (as I doubt is the case with you! And thank you for conceding my point: "Just because you say something does not make it true". That would mean that morons such as yourself that scream "Addiction is a "Disease" for the last 84 years, and then fail to provide any goddamned proof of it, are as detached from reality as your world of being drunk and high are! You have failed to provide any proof that backs your delusions assertion! Again! Saying something is a "Disease" does not make is so, anymore then idiot deity believers claiming there is a "God" without proof, means there is one! You cannot give even one fucking reference to the "Disease-addiction" connection. Nor can any md I have talked with over the last 20 years! Nor can nih, or any federal "Health agency" wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on this! You lose-again. Please-upgrade to fentanyl already. Your level of stupid makes the developmentally disabled look like nobel laureates by comparison!
P.S. The books and authors I cited-are right next to me on my book case. I have read each one. Twice! Don't you wish your un-reading, high school drop out level of education could say as much?
Sudcciv at this point you are predictable
So, I don't have to read anything you type because I have already seen enough of your limited and consistent pattern of stupidity.
I hope you didn't' spend a whole lot of time composing your reply.
It would benefit all of us if you stopped shitting, pissing, and puking in the sea of knowledge because you are turning it into a toilet.
Now, you go and have yourself a nice day.
