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[QUOTE=Budd2;5974993]Religion has always been the problem. One side wants to make God our Government, the other side wants to make Government our God. The only way to protect religious freedom is to keep government out of it. Unfortunately too many Americans do not belive in Separation of Church and State and the battle to legislate religion on one side and restrict religious freedoms on the other side will continue. We can't just live and let live.[/QUOTE]As much as I'm not a fan of religion that's not just it in the us. There are places in the world that are more religious than the us. They allow prostitution and drugs or at least permit them without heavily trying to penalize their existence. The issue here is also racism and unrestrained capitalism. The fact this country was built under slavery and prison is the new slavery. They need people to fill up prison cells so allowing drugs and prostitution works against that goal.

You Hague's are all morons. Decriminalize drugs. Yeah, OK. While we're at it, let's put more guns in schools to stop school shootings. Let's arm the kids and give them heroin. You guys go to great lengths to defend junkie ******. Junkie ****** are not even human.

[QUOTE=Cumshot19;5975318]You Hague's are all morons. Decriminalize drugs. Yeah, OK. While we're at it, let's put more guns in schools to stop school shootings. Let's arm the kids and give them heroin. You guys go to great lengths to defend junkie ******. Junkie ****** are not even human.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw08N8huTDE[/URL]

[QUOTE=PopGarden10;5975119]The issue here is also racism and unrestrained capitalism. The fact this country was built under slavery and prison is the new slavery. They need people to fill up prison cells so allowing drugs and prostitution works against that goal.[/QUOTE]I hear you. When it is legit for the government (through lobbying, campaign contributions, propaganda, money over everything, party before nation) and corporations (monopoly, stealing, underpaying employees. Etc) to practice unrestrained capitalism, why is is not legit for women to sell their bodies and take care of themselves?

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5973189]Eloquently said, here is mine. You ever watch Morgan Freeman in lean on me? You don't have to watch the whole thing, just this brief few second clip attached for this line.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpAJ4Lcu4Q[/URL]

At the end of the day, they are branded as felons and put in the cages the elite have crafted for them, and no matter how hard they try, they can't make enough money at the jobs they can get as felons so they fall right back into addiction. Representing the cages that Morgan Freeman deserved everyone to be freed from. The difference between addiction and non addiction is all about environment. If people were all living comfortably and not worried about how to pay for necessities, all of this suffering would be non-existent. Here is an article that proves just that. Decriminalize.

[URL]https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/view/what-does-rat-park-teach-us-about-addiction[/URL]

C92.[/QUOTE]Awesome post. Courts provide remedies, not justice. The remedies serve the court and the justice system (there is no justice system, its a for profit system designed for and by the government). Its a clusterfuck.

[QUOTE=DeskJockey;5976267]Awesome post. Courts provide remedies, not justice. The remedies serve the court and the justice system (there is no justice system, its a for profit system designed for and by the government). Its a clusterfuck.[/QUOTE]Here's a novel idea, stop shooting heroin. You know what that leads to? Keeping a job. Not going to jail. Not contracting infections that lead to losing limbs.

[QUOTE=DeskJockey;5976258]. . . why is is not legit for women to sell their bodies and take care of themselves?[/QUOTE]In theory, laws against prostitution are intended to protect public health and welfare (including the suppression of sexually transmitted diseases), protect minors who might otherwise become involved in the sex industry, thwart other associated forms of crime, and curb the incentive to exploit women.

[URL]https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/prostitution-pathways-problems-and-prevention[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1762352/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cumshot19;5976441]Here's a novel idea, stop shooting heroin. You know what that leads to? Keeping a job. Not going to jail. Not contracting infections that lead to losing limbs.[/QUOTE]Despite the good intentions, the "Just Say No" anti-drug marketing campaign started by Nancy Reagan was not as effective as it could have been.

An abstinence-only approach, coupled with harsher drug penalties, had negligible effect in preventing drug abuse.

[URL]https://landmarkrecovery.com/just-say-no-and-its-effects/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636541/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Navritol;5976546] curb the incentive to exploit women.

[URL]https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/prostitution-pathways-problems-and-prevention[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1762352/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah right, "curb the incentive to exploit women" when they go and bilk fines out of them with soliciting charges for doing what they want with their bodies. Seems like that's the courts exploiting them to me. If they gave a shit about stopping trafficking, they wouldn't be all over SKG like flies on shit and would focus their efforts elsewhere. SKG is filled with women that are either doing it to support their families, or maybe have a drug habit. Nobodys forcing them into it but themselves, and you know what? they are grown, they can do what they want thats their business. Its all political and those caught in the stings are nothing but potential pawns for Yost to try to get himself re elected. They don't give a flying shit about their taxpayers or any of their residents for that matter.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5977103]Yeah right . . . Nobodys forcing them into it but themselves, and you know what? they are grown, they can do what they want thats their business . . . [/QUOTE]Much of current theory on sex trafficking suggests it exists because a significant number of men are willing to pay for sex with women.

The argument is simple economic logic – without demand, an industry falls apart.

[URL]https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2018/12/06/part-four-a-look-at-johns-the-men-whose-demand-drives-our-sex-trafficking-problem/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5977103]Yeah right . . . If they gave a shit about stopping trafficking, they wouldn't be all over SKG like flies on shit and would focus their efforts elsewhere. . . [/QUOTE]Yost's focus on STG is driven in large part by non-profits.

[URL]https://endsexualexploitation.org/about/[/URL]

[URL]https://endsexualexploitation.org/articles/demand-for-prostitution-the-critical-role-of-market-dynamics-in-combating-sex-trafficking/[/URL]#_edn1.

[QUOTE=Navritol;5977145]Much of current theory on sex trafficking suggests it exists because a significant number of men are willing to pay for sex with women.

The argument is simple economic logic without demand, an industry falls apart.

[URL]https://portcitydaily.com/local-news/2018/12/06/part-four-a-look-at-johns-the-men-whose-demand-drives-our-sex-trafficking-problem/[/URL][/QUOTE]Well I suppose all are just theories I guess. I suppose I shouldn't care as much as I do about it anymore because it doesn't affect me. I just have a serious issue with them making a law essentially saying that adults can't make their own choices. Its adults choice to fuck each other, its the hookers pussy and the johns dick, neither of those things belong to the government. And by criminalizing it, ownership of us peasants by the government is what is implied. That is why I am the way I am, I might very well never monger for the rest of my life because I don't need to pay for it, and I will still have that outlook of live and let live. I can live out my remaining days knowing if I wanted to pay for it I easily could and have just as a big middle finger to the government. Honestly my main trigger to go out and monger would be to see Yost and others on the news saying exactly what your saying here. Its essentially taking the lazy way out. Get consenting SKG women and consenting men to make him look good on the news, and ignore the actual trafficking. Soon as I see him spew his bile in the news, it made me want to go out and monger because I know exactly what to do and what not to do. Now I stop myself for finance purposes, not because of some phony re election stunt, and I have figured out to control my anger now and just watch something else whenever I have to see him on the news.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;5977260]. . . Get consenting SKG women and consenting men to make him look good on the news, and ignore the actual trafficking. Soon as I see him spew his bile in the news, it made me want to go out and monger because I know exactly what to do and what not to do. Now I stop myself for finance purposes, not because of some phony re election stunt, and I have figured out to control my anger now and just watch something else whenever I have to see him on the news.[/QUOTE]Did you intend to write STG women? I can't figure out what SKG stands for.

Theories with supportive data often drive politics.

It's legal in 10 of 16 counties in Nevada. So there is an enlightened view here in the USA.

It would be interesting to compare social stats in places like the Netherlands and Germany, where it's been legal, to the same in the USA.

I don't believe it will ever be legal in the all 50 of the USA during my lifetime.

Yost is on tract to be the next Ohio gub'nor after DeWine's second term is done.

His primary opponent will be Jim Renacci, the GOP Party boss in Medina County.

Of the two, I believe Renacci would be more liberal on decriminalizing sex for hire.

As a GOP Congressman in 2015, he was one of 60 GOPs who voted to uphold Obama's 2014 executive order banning federal contractors from making hiring decisions that discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender identity.

[QUOTE=Navritol;5977097]Despite the good intentions, the "Just Say No" anti-drug marketing campaign started by Nancy Reagan was not as effective as it could have been.

An abstinence-only approach, coupled with harsher drug penalties, had negligible effect in preventing drug abuse.

[URL]https://landmarkrecovery.com/just-say-no-and-its-effects/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2636541/[/URL][/QUOTE]Look, if a dumb ***** wants to shoot heroin, I don't give a fuck. But when she loses a leg because she's a strung out junkie, I'm definitely not going to feel any pity toward her.

[QUOTE=Navritol;5977290]Did you intend to write STG women? I can't figure out what SKG stands for.

Theories with supportive data often drive politics.

It's legal in 10 of 16 counties in Nevada. So there is an enlightened view here in the USA.

It would be interesting to compare social stats in places like the Netherlands and Germany, where it's been legal, to the same in the USA.

I don't believe it will ever be legal in the all 50 of the USA during my lifetime.

Yost is on tract to be the next Ohio gub'nor after DeWine's second term is done.

His primary opponent will be Jim Renacci, the GOP Party boss in Medina County.

Of the two, I believe Renacci would be more liberal on decriminalizing sex for hire.

As a GOP Congressman in 2015, he was one of 60 GOPs who voted to uphold Obama's 2014 executive order banning federal contractors from making hiring decisions that discriminate based on sexual orientation or gender identity.[/QUOTE]Dewine will thankfully blow out Whaley, then I pray for the democrats to win in 2026 by producing an actual candidate. I don't like Dewine because he is anti hooker / hobby as well, but Whaley is a scumbag and more anti hooker / hobby then him she created a john registry in Dayton. I pray Crossman wins this November, but you are right, if that fucker Yost wins this election, he very well could be the next governor which would be nauseating. This election is historic and crucial, we all MUST vote Crossman solely because Yost's "engaging in prostitution" statute of house bill 431! Think about that, he raised the penalty on adults meeting adults online, but didnt raise penalties on scumbags. and then has the audacity to call it "common sense legislation." And this is the fucker we want running our state? FOH!

There has not been a Dem win governor since 2007 in Ohio. Whaley is the worst candidate of all time at a good time because if she wins that absolutely giftwraps the spot to Yost in 2026, but because a lot don't like Dewine or even Yost for that matter, I think we have a great shot at possibly having him out of office for good with a Crossman victory and a Dewine victory this year, and then in 2026 a democrat winning the governor election because people are sick of dewine. its a long shot , but its very conceivable. Actual freedom could be in our future!

C92.