Seeking Arrangement (SA)

[QUOTE=FunnyUy;3282613]Maybe it is not the playbook but it is definitely the cliff notes. The posts from the other forums that you share are helpful as well.

Still looking for the unicorn as well. I would also add that my version of the unicorn involves a hottie SB that likes to host at her very convenient house / apartment / condo that she lives in by herself. While we are at it this hottie was born sometime in the 1990's.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind if said unicorn was a Jennifer Anniston clone. Maybe I could be her sugar baby?

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3282376]

Still searching for that elusive unicorn. You know the drop dead gorgeous SB that I would rate a 10 in looks / attitude / sexual prowess / and also says "I'm fine if you don't want to give me any allowance as long as you fuck my brains out whenever we see each other![/QUOTE]Your enthusiasm is infectious! And with an attitude like that you'll find the unicorn!

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3282855]I wouldn't mind if said unicorn was a Jennifer Anniston clone. Maybe I could be her sugar baby?[/QUOTE]You ever see the Chappelle Show episode where he gets with Oprah?? Just like that.

Met up with her again. All I can say is that I am finally glad that we have figured out a way to make our schedules mesh.

Fun times were had by both of us. I just love the throaty little grunt she has whenever she has an O.

I cannot wait to see her again.

FL out!

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3276845]POT went silent and haven't heard from her yet. No worries just better chance of multiple pops with ATF FLSB1 who I am 100% certain will not flake out or go silent.

She sent me a pic of a big jar of Organic Coconut Oil and said she wants me to rub it all over her. Let's play slip and slide![/QUOTE]Have you seen her? We chat but my schedule did not work with her. I fight a lot and only few time I can be in nashville.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7b59cf2d-8c9e-4d9e-9a7c-53a9c076cd58[/URL]

[QUOTE=Quake3;3287089]Have you seen her? We chat but my schedule did not work with her. I fight a lot and only few time I can be in nashville.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7b59cf2d-8c9e-4d9e-9a7c-53a9c076cd58[/URL][/QUOTE]Goes to a girl named Jessyi that I have never even communicated with. IS that who you were asking about?

Don't agree with this FWIW, and I've been active on and off SA for at least 8 years and have had quite a bit of success. Some of my very very best experiences I paid the least for. Of course that's often by catching them early on in their time on SA, as they do become more jaded and in some rare cases spoiled by finding someone who gives them above the norm and that becomes their new baseline expectation, but to say that you have to pay 500+ for quality on that site, is simply not true.

In fact, girls that request that and can't be talked off of it by someone persuasive, respectful charming, are almost certainly more experienced in this b / c they know it's possible to get. That's kind of the opposite of what I'm looking for ideally.

But the truth is that it depends on what you want, he has a type and a system that works for him and he's happy, and that's what's great about SA, your mileage truly will vary. Personally, I'm not into monthly arrangements, I'm still looking for some variety, and don't want to be that committed. My experience also was in the few allowance situations I did (which only lasted a couple of months both times) was that scheduling was a lot harder than when it was per time, and unless the allowance was due soon, they quit bending over backwards to make time for us to go to the FC, unlike when they got compensated after the FC.

But these long term, ongoing arrangements for high allowances are the extreme exception on the site, the girls version of the unicorn in fact. So while girls would prefer it and it no doubt helps you to offer it to close the deal, very few girls actually achieve it. They quickly learn that they're not likely to find it, at least not without searching for a while. So if that's not your ideal, you do not have to do it, I assure you. The newbies don't know any better, and those that have been around a while are disillusioned enough to know it's not possible unless they were lucky enough to strike gold with a unicorn.

So don't be discouraged thinking that's all that's out there. As with anything, offering better terms (more money, advance pay) improves your chances, but we have the numbers on there and it's definitely not required. Figure out what works for you and stick to it, weed quickly for the GPS, pros, the flakes. You will have to weed through a ton of potentials, but it's possible, and worth it.

[QUOTE=Sport313;3256744]On SA, I've generally found that you get what you pay for. A real true blue SB won't accept anything under 400-500 around these parts and rightfully so. When I'm in CA, NY, etc a good SB goes for 800-1200 per meet. These types you can comfortably be seen in public with if you like, take to dinner / events, aren't feeding a habit and can hold conversation. Personally, I have no problem offering first out the gate and offering well because these girls are my style. I do my homework though. I google search photos, check the typical sites to see if they are double dipping as a provider for anything else.

A bicycle and a Bentley are not the same price for a reason. I met my current SB from SA 3 months ago here in Nashville. We both deactivated our accounts the night we met (I've logged on to check- she's still deactivated!) There's jewels out there guys but negotiating doesn't work well if you really want a SB. I gifted her 700 for our first meeting- all nighter, dinner, drinks and Back to the room for the rest of the evening. Her allowance is 950 monthly to help with whatever bills that covers for her but I only see her once a month due to home commitments. I use PayPal to avoid the awkwardness, it's sent on the 15th and we have never talked about it since the first meeting. In between meetings communication is on point. She is the 3rd long term SB I've had. I could write a book on how to SA and be successful at it but only if you really want a SB, if not I'd just stick with the [URL]backpage.com[/URL]s of the world cause here's a major difference. Most of the riffraff drug addicts are on SA unfortunately but no REAL SB's are on backpage. So that wraps today's SA 101.

And to you guys that are going to say that I'm upsetting the curve. The candy store is all yours. I found the sweets that I was looking for in terms of the SD / SB life. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyHeyther;3279596]You guys have any tips for getting your number out there without a premium account? Looks like they have changed it up since the old days & 10 free messages; everything I send gets censored.[/QUOTE]I tried sending a message then replying to their reply with my number and it was edited by the system. They've thought this one through.

[QUOTE=Lougle69;3288377]I tried sending a message then replying to their reply with my number and it was edited by the system. They've thought this one through.[/QUOTE]If you can't fork over the membership fee you probably are on the wrong site. I've had girls tell me guys will put in their profile that they aren't full members and they say 'if the guy can't even afford to use the site he must be really cheap. '.

I'm personally a background verified member. The girls pay attention to these things. You have to give them some credit. It's a two way street. I don't think you guys would have many of the complaints I read about here if you weren't trying to lowball the game so much. Not judging, do as you will but it's really not hat difficult to get what you want from the site.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;3288252]Don't agree with this FWIW, and I've been active on and off SA for at least 8 years and have had quite a bit of success. Some of my very very best experiences I paid the least for. Of course that's often by catching them early on in their time on SA, as they do become more jaded and in some rare cases spoiled by finding someone who gives them above the norm and that becomes their new baseline expectation, but to say that you have to pay 500+ for quality on that site, is simply not true.

In fact, girls that request that and can't be talked off of it by someone persuasive, respectful charming, are almost certainly more experienced in this b / c they know it's possible to get. That's kind of the opposite of what I'm looking for ideally.

But the truth is that it depends on what you want, he has a type and a system that works for him and he's happy, and that's what's great about SA, your mileage truly will vary. Personally, I'm not into monthly arrangements, I'm still looking for some variety, and don't want to be that committed. My experience also was in the few allowance situations I did (which only lasted a couple of months both times) was that scheduling was a lot harder than when it was per time, and unless the allowance was due soon, they quit bending over backwards to make time for us to go to the FC, unlike when they got compensated after the FC.

But these long term, ongoing arrangements for high allowances are the extreme exception on the site, the girls version of the unicorn in fact. So while girls would prefer it and it no doubt helps you to offer it to close the deal, very few girls actually achieve it. They quickly learn that they're not likely to find it, at least not without searching for a while. So if that's not your ideal, you do not have to do it, I assure you. The newbies don't know any better, and those that have been around a while are disillusioned enough to know it's not possible unless they were lucky enough to strike gold with a unicorn.

So don't be discouraged thinking that's all that's out there. As with anything, offering better terms (more money, advance pay) improves your chances, but we have the numbers on there and it's definitely not required. Figure out what works for you and stick to it, weed quickly for the GPS, pros, the flakes. You will have to weed through a ton of potentials, but it's possible, and worth it.[/QUOTE]I really don't understand the 'I'm trying to get one over on them' approach for the new ones. They have this arsenal of blogs on their side to read now. My current showed it to me. They are basically their how-to blogs. I think if this many men are complaining about it not working out for them there's a reason or that the girl blocked them or deactivated. The women I have messaged constantly complain about men messaging who just want to take them to a cheap hotel for a hour and only offer 100-200 for their time. So yes, I look like Prince Charming because I'd never dare go that route with my approach and don't take these women to be that naive to not know better considering this isn't as much of a taboo thing anymore. You're right it does work for me and very well. I cut 95 percent of the bullshit out from the get go so I can get to the good stuff! Ha.

I think the scheduling that you brought up for monthly allowances again falls back on the SB you're with. Call it luck or just being that good at finding the right girl but it's never been an issue for communication and our dates. I can't really say much more about that cause it's never been an issue.

Fine if you prefer a variety but that sugar goes both ways. I'd assume more men are looking for what you are than what I am with the variety aspect. There are plenty more SB's on there than us so we have better odds in that respect but that doesn't mean a damn thing if some of these guys can't even get one of them to come play with them because they are acting like 'one of those guys' does it? LOL. That's what I was trying to get across to these guys.

It just is what it is. You can certainly get the low end ones to come screw you for next to nothing but I'd assume you are one of many in the day just like the backpage girls. If that's your thing by all means get down Charlie Brown. Better you than me.

But to the ones having the issues, I would be willing to bet that if you went back and offered 200-300 more to the same girl that has ever shot you down. She would be singing a new song.

Most have read the blogs these days, not all, but when they're new they still don't know what to believe, if what they've read is actually true. And to be clear, much of what is on the blogs themselves is rather obviously embellished if not made up, and when they're new, they're open to that possibility. I've heard several say in a M&G when we start discussing the concept that "it sounded too good to be true. ".

Now, if one meets someone like you early on, which is the exception on a site where the guys are less plentiful, they will have a different attitude and may be hard to talk out of it in the future. But it's probably more likely that they meet a scammer who takes advantage of them than that (there is apparently at least one guy here in town who is really good at targeting newbies to the FC and never helping out, heard that story at least 5 times and told emotionally enough that I believe it LOL).

Where I fully agree on the approach is more about the motel angle than the amount. That direct method will work with the BP types, those that are at best UTRs (and they're plenty of them on there) but it's too sleazy and demeaning for the genuine girls. For those rare girls it's less about the amount than being respected, feeling safe, and actually liking the person they're seeing, and proposing a move to the FC at all before you've even met is often a deal killer. The ones I'm after don't want to be treated that way and feel like that's what they're doing when someone treats them that way early on.

I just have found in my experience that when you find them (and they don't grow on trees in this town), that the other factors are even more important to them than the amount. In fact, it's the true pros, and there a couple on there that are model quality and have high expectations, that are actually the least negotiable. The lower quality BP types that are also on there will quickly ask for $$ but would probably agree to $$. Whereas the true amateur that hasn't been around the block will usually meet you without even discussing it.

You're no doubt correct that guys may entice girls who turned them down with more money, but in my experience making a great impression goes the longest way.

[QUOTE=Sport313;3288658]I really don't understand the 'I'm trying to get one over on them' approach for the new ones. They have this arsenal of blogs on their side to read now. My current showed it to me. They are basically their how-to blogs. I think if this many men are complaining about it not working out for them there's a reason or that the girl blocked them or deactivated. The women I have messaged constantly complain about men messaging who just want to take them to a cheap hotel for a hour and only offer 100-200 for their time. So yes, I look like Prince Charming because I'd never dare go that route with my approach and don't take these women to be that naive to not know better considering this isn't as much of a taboo thing anymore. You're right it does work for me and very well. I cut 95 percent of the bullshit out from the get go so I can get to the good stuff! Ha.

I think the scheduling that you brought up for monthly allowances again falls back on the SB you're with. Call it luck or just being that good at finding the right girl but it's never been an issue for communication and our dates. I can't really say much more about that cause it's never been an issue.

Fine if you prefer a variety but that sugar goes both ways. I'd assume more men are looking for what you are than what I am with the variety aspect. There are plenty more SB's on there than us so we have better odds in that respect but that doesn't mean a damn thing if some of these guys can't even get one of them to come play with them because they are acting like 'one of those guys' does it? LOL. That's what I was trying to get across to these guys.

It just is what it is. You can certainly get the low end ones to come screw you for next to nothing but I'd assume you are one of many in the day just like the backpage girls. If that's your thing by all means get down Charlie Brown. Better you than me.

But to the ones having the issues, I would be willing to bet that if you went back and offered 200-300 more to the same girl that has ever shot you down. She would be singing a new song.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3287183]Goes to a girl named Jessyi that I have never even communicated with. IS that who you were asking about?[/QUOTE]Yes that is her.

Anybody had any luck with this girl?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/38180832-3107-acba-2620-21d4e87ebf69[/URL]

She's on and off the site for a few years. Can't get anywhere with her. Real, or no?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c0fbab83-06fe-4f73-9e86-967fc2d3d107[/URL]

This is an interesting one. She's a self-professed lesbian who has fantasies about having her girlfriend warm her up and after she leaves, allowing you to "show her how it's really done. " She says she's only been with one man before and that it lasted only a few moments. I personally don't find her all that appealing, but it is an interesting proposition. I thought perhaps one of you dogs might be interested.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/538137a2-1c3a-4409-8cd4-582137b9cc8d[/URL]

This is one I would avoid. She is most likely a legitimate candidate, but after agreeing in terms to an arrangement via text, she insisted on seeing me that night. She said she had no place to stay (red flag) and that she needed to "make $$ tonight" (another red flag).