Thunderdome

There are so many variables that could potentially happen I put the rain coat on.

[QUOTE=Flamebird;1991696]My understanding is as follows:

For a guy, you need to worry about herpes, warts, clap, chlamydia, etc. So for BBBJ, the general strategy is:

A) stay far away if she has a cold sore or is recovering from them or mentions she gets them.

B) clap / chlamydia / etc can be cured with a single dose Z-pack from planned parenthood.

C) warts.. Not sure, but see (a).

D) HIV is very low risk of transmission from BBBJ assuming you clean afterwards.

So, shower afterwards, pee in the shower, use soap and get regular checkups and you will reduce the (relatively small) risk significantly. Wash under the hood if you are not circumcised. The penis is covered in skin. Skin is pretty good at resisting virii / etc. That's its job. It is when you have a cut / nick / etc that it is a problem.

For women, the risk is greater if they do CIM. Any little cavity or cut in the mouth allows direct access to the bloodstream.

At the end of the day, it is all about risk and managing risk. High end escorts CFS may be 'cleaner' than BBFS off the street (YMMV!!!)

Example (numbers made up to make the math look good):
- chance she has something nasty: 5%
- chance your cleanliness routine stops it getting enough time on you to penetrate your body: 20%
- chance your immune system kills it: 50%

So... 5% * 0.8 * 0.5 = 2% total chance.....

At the end of the day, only you can decide to take the chance. After all, it is your life and you need to live with the consequences.[/QUOTE]

They're definitely on IGNORE and forever will be as the they're useless scum that will never contribute and are not worth even a millisecond of my time. They joined the dozens already there and I'm sure more will follow. The best features on here are the ignore and the restrict pm's to contacts only.

[QUOTE=SmokeScreen;1988065]I don't know whether or not either of you realize that HAH has put you both on IGNORE, but he said he did, so when you address him he doesn't see what you have to say. Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying all this banter (maybe that's too light of a word) but you get the idea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Flamebird;1991696]My understanding is as follows:

For a guy, you need to worry about herpes, warts, clap, chlamydia, etc. So for BBBJ, the general strategy is:

A) stay far away if she has a cold sore or is recovering from them or mentions she gets them.

B) clap / chlamydia / etc can be cured with a single dose Z-pack from planned parenthood.

C) warts.. Not sure, but see (a).

D) HIV is very low risk of transmission from BBBJ assuming you clean afterwards.

So, shower afterwards, pee in the shower, use soap and get regular checkups and you will reduce the (relatively small) risk significantly. Wash under the hood if you are not circumcised. The penis is covered in skin. Skin is pretty good at resisting virii / etc. That's its job. It is when you have a cut / nick / etc that it is a problem.

For women, the risk is greater if they do CIM. Any little cavity or cut in the mouth allows direct access to the bloodstream.

At the end of the day, it is all about risk and managing risk. High end escorts CFS may be 'cleaner' than BBFS off the street (YMMV!!!)

Example (numbers made up to make the math look good):
- chance she has something nasty: 5%
- chance your cleanliness routine stops it getting enough time on you to penetrate your body: 20%
- chance your immune system kills it: 50%

So... 5% * 0.8 * 0.5 = 2% total chance.....

At the end of the day, only you can decide to take the chance. After all, it is your life and you need to live with the consequences.[/QUOTE]From things I've read, the chance of contracting HIV from receiving a BBBJ is so low as to be virtually non-existent, UNLESS you both have some sort of open sores / cuts on the areas making contact. There just isn't sufficient concentration of the virus in saliva alone. BBFS, in terms of HIV, is obviously riskier, but still pretty low risk for the male unless, once again, there's an open wound of some sort involved.

Of course, I'm not a doctor, and there's a lot of conflicting information out there. Safety is always the best policy, but we're assuming a certain amount of risk engaging in this hobby to begin with. Like you said, in the end, everyone has to decide for themselves what level of risk they're willing to accept. But there's no sense judging other mongers for their activities. I don't make a habit of engaging in BBFS, but I'd be lying if I said I've never done it on certain occasions when the option was presented to me (sometimes the little head just takes over, you know?).

I check in over here at the T-Dome once in awhile for a laugh, but it seems the conversation has gotten serious. I have a few thoughts concerning some things I've read the past few days.

It is theoretically possible to get HIV from a BBBJ, but realistically it is not a concern. There are thousands of examples of couples (gay and straight) where one is HIV+ and the other HIV- and oral sex w / o condoms is done routinely without transmission of the virus. You are not at a risk for HIV through getting a BBBJ. Givers of oral sex (cunny lick or BJ) are at a higher risk, but is still considered very low risk. Other STI's are a def possibility of course, including my main fear The Herpes.

The CDC is a poor source to use for actual real world facts and current statistics, IMO. They 'tow the gov't line' and will give you their official stance on the matter of HIV transmission. If you want the most up to date info, look elsewhere. E.g. You Cal San Fran Med Site, articles and papers by H. Hunter Handsfield, M.the who knows more about STI's than just about anyone alive.

It was stated recently that the only people that get their names in the paper for solicitation are the ones that plead or are found guily. 1000% wrong! There are many newspaper articles where people's names are routinely given and they have been only charged with the crime. They were arrested and within 72 hours their names are in the paper. At least that's the way it is up here in Mass and I seriously doubt Rhody has any type of laws protecting people accused of soliciting.

Finally, for those of you that engage in BBFS with these girls. 1. You're fucking nuts! 2. I hope for everyone's sake that you get tested often.

I see this right above my post so I assume you are pointing your finger at me. Well number one sir if you are attempting make others think I PMed you, then you are a liar because I have not sent you a PM or asked you for anything. Now I am convinced that you are truly FULL OF SHIT! Number two I am currently NOT in RI so I do not care about your forty year old so again you are full of shit. I think I am going to take a different approach and put you on ignore! Take your advice and stick it up your ass! If you want to say I sent you a PM produce it you effing liar! If you are talking about someone else you should not have placed your supermonger bullshit right above my post. So go fuck yourself Mr. Everybody needs my help.

What a crock!

Let's see, just a tiny blurb in a post here about a CL hookup and not only do I get pm's asking for the freebie but SOMEONE (S) already posted multiple ads (paste one of them below) on CL addressed to the lady I mentioned. What a crock of shit, grow up and get your own. Don't try and undermine or steal from someone that has already done the work!

Searching for a 40 yo blonde nympho. M4 w - 36.

Hi, there, I'm looking for a cougar, around 40, blonde, who's a real nympho. If you are please reply back. Not looking for something immediate, ideally Thursday or next week. Oh, and I'm 36, swm, the&the free.

I can't really speak for HaH but I certainly did not take his comments as they were being directed at Moonshiner.

It seemed to me that he was directing his comment to whoever had posted the CL ad looking for someone who fit the description he had provided.

Just how in the hell did you come up with this being directed at you?? WTF? I quoted my own post and said it was to whomever was being a dick and trying to steal a CL score. And as for me posting just above yours? What am I supposed to do wait for someone else to post just so I can? You fly off the handle when you don't even know what's going on? That's just crazy dude.

You know what happens when you ASSUME right?

[QUOTE=Moonshiner;1994221]I see this right above my post so I assume you are pointing your finger at me. Well number one sir if you are attempting make others think I PMed you, then you are a liar because I have not sent you a PM or asked you for anything. Now I am convinced that you are truly FULL OF SHIT! Number two I am currently NOT in RI so I do not care about your forty year old so again you are full of shit. I think I am going to take a different approach and put you on ignore! Take your advice and stick it up your ass! If you want to say I sent you a PM produce it you effing liar! If you are talking about someone else you should not have placed your supermonger bullshit right above my post. So go fuck yourself Mr. Everybody needs my help.

What a crock!

Let's see, just a tiny blurb in a post here about a CL hookup and not only do I get pm's asking for the freebie but SOMEONE (S) already posted multiple ads (paste one of them below) on CL addressed to the lady I mentioned. What a crock of shit, grow up and get your own. Don't try and undermine or steal from someone that has already done the work!

Searching for a 40 yo blonde nympho. M4 w - 36.

Hi, there, I'm looking for a cougar, around 40, blonde, who's a real nympho. If you are please reply back. Not looking for something immediate, ideally Thursday or next week. Oh, and I'm 36, swm, the&the free.[/QUOTE]

It is not good news, but I don't feel comfortable sharing details here. Pm me for details.

I have to go with HAH on this one, his post didn't seemed to be pointed at anyone in particular. He said after he posted the comment about it being someone else that gave the picture tip, he got a PM and someone took the thing about the CL girl and ran an ad trying to bait the waters. He didn't call anyone out. Could have been a lurker that did it.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;1994335]Just how in the hell did you come up with this being directed at you?? WTF? I quoted my own post and said it was to whomever was being a dick and trying to steal a CL score. And as for me posting just above yours? What am I supposed to do wait for someone else to post just so I can? You fly off the handle when you don't even know what's going on? That's just crazy dude.

You know what happens when you ASSUME right?[/QUOTE]Leads to failure?

[QUOTE=Deb4512;1994395]It is not good news, but I don't feel comfortable sharing details here. Pm me for details.[/QUOTE]Deb, your inbox is full, please clear it out a bit. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HornyAsHell;1994335]Just how in the hell did you come up with this being directed at you?? WTF? I quoted my own post and said it was to whomever was being a dick and trying to steal a CL score. And as for me posting just above yours? What am I supposed to do wait for someone else to post just so I can? You fly off the handle when you don't even know what's going on? That's just crazy dude.

You know what happens when you ASSUME right?[/QUOTE]Wow...haven't been around for awhile and noticed this thread. So WTF has happened in the few months since I've been a regular here. Hoy shit. But even though I wasn't asked I will tell you that HAH has been once of the best and most trusted gents on this forum. He has helped me out on numerous occasions and even bought me a drink or two. If there is ANYONE you don't want to PO it is he. Again..an unsolicited opinion. SO.

I stand down and on re-reading I have yo admit that I was wrong. To all accept my apologies for a poor interpretation. I will also share a bad CL experience when I have a real keyboard. Again sorry to everybody for my moody jet lagged behavior.


QUOTE=Horny As Hell;1994335]Just how in the hell did you come up with this being directed at you?? WTF? I quoted my own post and said it was to whomever was being a dick and trying to steal a CL score. And as for me posting just above yours? What am I supposed to do wait for someone else to post just so I can? You fly off the handle when you don't even know what's going on? That's just crazy dude.

You know what happens when you ASSUME right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deb4512;1994395]It is not good news, but I don't feel comfortable sharing details here. Pm me for details.[/QUOTE]Is this going to be more preaching about BBFS like in the PM's you send?

[QUOTE=Deb4512;1994399]It's important and not good news. I feel uncomfortable getting into details here, so pm me for details.[/QUOTE]I know there has been debate here previously about the pros and cons of screening. Below is an example of why we shouldn't give out our personal information. I posted below as I am tired of receiving pm's from various members who are afraid to post Deb's alert for fear of admonishment. Since there is no specific slander info provided there should be no reason not to include this as part of the screening debate. As info I am not outing another member's private pm as I was encouraged to do so by the author.

"I'm not sure what I should do. A client I know who knows me and and another escort (that's an escort in Warwick RI) He said she put his information on a bad boy website to embarrass him, because he won't see her because she charges $250 an hour. Well he said she got upset and posted him on this site, posting his name, number, address...because she asks for this information as she verifies. Anyway I tried to look for the site after posting that warning and I can't find the site. I can't imagine that he'd lie to me. He has two numbers and I don't have the other one to check. Do you think I should tell the guys? I can't verify that it's true. Only from what he told me.".