Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=SouthernJohn;2257034]First, let me start by stating that this post is NOT a defense of any provider or any hobbyist's review. It is also not meant to be a slam of any provider or hobbyist's review. With that said. Let's get to it.

Every hobbyist has personal likes / dislikes and expectations for the experience. Here's the shocker. So do providers. Their performance varies and what they elect to do during each session often varies, as well. The top-shelf providers have typically mastered the ability to adapt to almost any hobbyist and provide them with an outstanding performance. Are all of the sessions the same? No. So, unless you are shelling out serious cash for a top shelf provider, the "outstanding experience" is far from guaranteed. Now, if the session is not going like you want, communicate your desires. If you choose to remain silent. You deserve what you tolerate.

If you don't really click with a provider, don't see her again. If you write a review, identify what didn't work for you. If you click with a provider, see her again. If you write a review, identify what did work. But let's be sure we do one another a favor. Communicate. We can then all read the reviews and determine if that's the kind of girl we want to go see.

It doesn't help when we make disparaging remarks about other hobbyists' tastes or expectations. I've seen negative reviews from hobbyists about girls that I've enjoyed and also had bad experiences with girls that some hobbyists rave about. I didn't assume those hobbyists were suffering from cranial-rectal-insertion. I was thankful that they shared their information.

Maybe I'm new to the local board and my posts numbers aren't high, but I've seen well over 100 providers (good and bad) across the nation. My commitment is to share information so that we all have a better time in the hobby and can avoid huge wastes of time / money. Remember the purpose of the board and use it for our good.

SouthernJohn.[/QUOTE]Well you made some sense but it's important to know the facts behind review in the 1st place before offering recommendations. As matter of fact she was informed 100% of what I liked and the type of visit that I enjoy the most, so she already had that information. However when a provider makes the choice the chemically alter their state of mind to the point they can't hardly stand up then then they deserve whatever review they get. I have not even scratched the surface of what made my visit such a terrible experience. Now for those men that choose to spend time with her and then rave about how great she I can only assume they are not very picky. Like I said before, once a lot of men see a cute ass they tend to overlook the rest of the train wreck standing in front of them.

[QUOTE=MountainEagle;2257098]PM for details. If you see her your future and good name is at high risk.[/QUOTE]Ok terrible service is one thing but to say this lady is going to hurt someone or snitch is a little cray. She has reviews from SR's who say they enjoyed. I've seen her at her place 3 times service was ok and I definitely didn't feel like I was in danger. She took her criticism, worked on her skills, and has improved I can respect that! This lady is not trying to harm anyone we know all about your reasons for not seeing her and you've made your point. No need to keep beating the drum because obviously no one is listening because they continue to see her. Numbers Never Lie.

[QUOTE=JbLarson;2257884]Well you made some sense but it's important to know the facts behind review in the 1st place before offering recommendations. As matter of fact she was informed 100% of what I liked and the type of visit that I enjoy the most, so she already had that information. However when a provider makes the choice the chemically alter their state of mind to the point they can't hardly stand up then then they deserve whatever review they get. I have not even scratched the surface of what made my visit such a terrible experience. Now for those men that choose to spend time with her and then rave about how great she I can only assume they are not very picky. Like I said before, once a lot of men see a cute ass they tend to overlook the rest of the train wreck standing in front of them.[/QUOTE]I think you just proved my point. We don't know what happened in your session just like you don't know what happened in ours. If you would like to make assumptions that everyone else experienced what you did and then make remarks on usasg about other hobbyists having lower standards, that is your right (just not very helpful). It is the equivalent of others assuming that the only way for her be in the same room with certain clients is to over-medicate (not my belief, but an equally absurd assumption).

As for the fact that you had told her what type of session you enjoy / desire and she failed to deliver, that is a big issue. In fact, it is the exact opposite of what this hobby is about. My comments in the earlier post were not meant to imply that you failed to communicate your wishes to her. My post was generic in nature and, in hind-sight, I probably shouldn't have included your post as my launch point. I see where that may have caused some confusion. My apologies.

I believe that we should express what we liked or didn't like about OUR session. I appreciate you choosing to share the negative aspects with the rest of us so we know that there is a risk of that happening to us. I never implied or expressly stated that I had any issue (or disagreed) with your review of the session. I merely pointed out that making negative comments about other hobbyists serves no purpose. BTW, I wasn't offended by your comment, but I've seen the war of words on other boards when hobbyists take sides about a provider. Lets not go there.

If you feel the need to discuss this further, lets take it to pm.

SouthernJohn.

[QUOTE=TheLoad2;2257926]Ok terrible service is one thing but to say this lady is going to hurt someone or snitch is a little cray. She has reviews from SR's who say they enjoyed. I've seen her at her place 3 times service was ok and I definitely didn't feel like I was in danger. She took her criticism, worked on her skills, and has improved I can respect that! This lady is not trying to harm anyone we know all about your reasons for not seeing her and you've made your point. No need to keep beating the drum because obviously no one is listening because they continue to see her. Numbers Never Lie.[/QUOTE]How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her.

[QUOTE=TYS321;2258018]YMMV. She can be a good date, or the best example of CXGFE (Crazy XGF Experience). Where to begin? I've been waiting weeks for her to make it right on her cash and dash, theft restitution and unpaid signature loans. Got paid 2%, no date, just excuses. She threatened to kill me, or have me beaten up, if I reviewed her on USA, yet still wanted me to pay to play. As a victim of over 100 violent rapes including attempted murders, including by USA members, I suspect her threats are just normal PTSD of such a rape victim, and extreme addiction to opiates, judging by my other violent UTR roommate with a history of extreme rape and attempted murder. It may be you won't see this side of her until she feels comfortable with you haha, and I'm not the only one. Many USA mongers don't care if a provider shoots up every dollar of income, nor do they care if they are doing a rape victim in pain, some would even enjoy a thrill of rape (you know who you are).

My latest experiences. I will say I always enjoyed our play time together, though its rarely what I want and agreed upon. More GFE I guess, I make sure she enjoys herself as much as possible (no matter who I'm with). I enjoy a woman enjoying herself, 20 times or more per session LOL, but only clean ladies are capable of this. This girl has been in extreme emotional pain for nearly a year, PM for details. No O until our self administered magic bullet, then oral. Couldn't F more than 5 minutes due to extreme pain from being worn out, and recent violent rape I'm still in court over trying to get her medical care for. Lately felt like I was just another ride of the day, zero interest, just hop on and go. Had an awesome double but she nearly tore my manhood off with her kung fu grip trying to extort more roses, then she put our double partner in jail, PM for details.

Thefts from me at the felony level, PM for details. Many more expenses trying to salvage her train wreck, as USA guys called it long ago.

Extortion. Imagine a scary XGF showing up at work or home and refusing to leave without cash and dash. She has zero bills thanks to me paying them up till now, she has no rent, no electric, no food, no phone, no child support, so don't fall for her tantrums.

Don't get me wrong, she's an amazing young woman with many awesome qualities, the more time you invest in her the more you get to see. Professional model, professional dancer, stripper, lesbian porn star. But the dark side of the projects, disease of addiction and family disaster has taken its toll. Her incall location actually resulted in bullets holes in her visitor's vehicle.

She's angry my previous review allegedly affected her income, but that's the point of USA isn't it? Her misbehavior wasnt corrected. She can still get plenty of customers without USA. For some reason she won't see most of her old favs on USA, people who stood by her in hard times, at least not for play. I respect any choice she makes, nor do I judge, who am I to do that since I'm on here too? But theres professional courtesy and human decency that's lacking lately in our business dealings and "friendship". I wish her no harm in person or business, and she's potentially an excellent business owner previously earning over $100,000 a year on USA, all paid to dealers and notels. As long as you remain at a distance, you may have a good time? IDK and IDC. I've wiped our slate clean. I wish her good luck and fortune.

BTW my current fav UTR is just as crazy, or more so, cash and dash, theft, armed robbery, extortion, violence and mayhem against me and everyone else. She stalks USA mongers hunting streetwalkers. She cries that she destroys everyone around her with her addictions. But she's a sweetie roommate too. If this is the kind of lady you seek, go for it! Don't let me stop you. Cant possibly be worse than a crazy wife or xwife, and a whole lot cheaper, you married guys know what im talkin about![/QUOTE]Ok one day she's a good girl and we should treat her right now this. Which is it? It sounds like you're a little too involved with this provider. But I appreciate the info I saw her and she was pretty basic. Not a fan of the neighborhood or the scrub sitting in the car either(getajob). I understand a pimp/handlers role but you providers letting these bums suck up all your $ while they do nothing you will never get ahead. Nice girl just on the wrong path.

[QUOTE=MountainEagle;2257972]How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her.[/QUOTE]Ok I clearly said we know your reasons for not seeing her. And I don't have to email you I can google or bing just like you so you don't have to act like you've been doing great detective work. Idc who emailed you she has positive reviews from SR's on this board as recent as yesterday. We know about the past but it seems to me she just wants to make her $ and stay out the way she doesn't bother anyone. And I don't see her but the 3 times I did I didn't feel in any danger! All I'm saying is you made your point you don't have to keep attacking her. And clean out your inbox I tried to pm you.

[QUOTE=TYS321;2258051]My halloween started out OK, my fav stripper UTR FB called me, homeless again, needed a place to stay. Spent a quiet evening with dinner, bathing and bed. She was clean for a change, detoxing, needing hours of massage and cuddles while shivering under the blankets. Cried how she destroyed her XBF and everyone else around her (me included). Said she loved me, admitted she loved our sex, though repeating I'm "not her type". Previously admitted she can't understand how a hottie like her keeps obsessing about little old me (I got game LOL). She buys me dinner, clothes and invites me on vacations to exciting destinations, usually involving strip clubs.

Woke at 5 am. Breakfast 5:45. The screaming started at 6. The throwing at 6:05. The breakup by 7. Carnage and mayhem includes my broken glasses, my broken car rearview mirror, my broken cell. She did all the screaming. Seems she likes to throw things to get what she wants. My money! Knows my payroll dates better than I do. A dangerous thing to have known by a cash and dasher, shoplifter, thief, armed robber, pistol whipper, stalker of SW mongers, gangrape victims left for dead in an ally, forced to dig her own grave by a rapist babydaddy, beaten by 300 gangbangers in the darkest projects. PTSD on crack and heroin. Like a mafia enforcer smashing and crashing until his or her victim caves and pays.

Normally she reserves her violent tantrums for her married XBF sugardaddy, who paid her $5,000 a month until his inevitable BK. She still sees him everyday, when they torture each other mercilessly. His wife now knows. She's not a happy camper. So now I'm in BF territory, violence normally reserved for significant others, how sweet LOL.

She called me later, for a ride, and a bed. I said Yes.[/QUOTE]Probably should transfer thinking to the big head for a while. Hhahaha.

Dude, I'm not in Knox anymore, but I visit and read here regularly. I'm a huge fan of fiction. Love to read constantly. But your stories are getting a little unbelievable. And, as a bit of advice, give some detail. A name, maybe? I mean, if theses girls are ones the rest of us might see, or have seen, we'd like to know who the heck you're referencing. If they're true UTR's and only you are seeing them, who the hell cares? If the stories are real but none of us will ever see or experience this crazy, what's the point? I'm thinking this is all fiction. How many multiple-rape strippers / UTR's can there be around here? And how much crazy can one guy afford?

Just my opinion, of course. Maybe others on here know who you're talking about.

[QUOTE=VolBoater;2258267]Probably should transfer thinking to the big head for a while. Hhahaha.[/QUOTE]Not just about dealing with providers. But for dealing with women in general. LOL.

Some more friendly advice leave the women alone and buy you a puppy LOL.

"[B]Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit[/B]: This is the place for postings on argumentative bullshit. Please keep the {real} threads committed to the enjoyment of the hobby, and the adoration of women". Wanted to re-post the very first entry here - - - looks like it's working.

We've had recent discussions on lot of things: looks, description terms, the good / bad, even some personal life-drama diary entries.

[I]One thing though[/I]: I've previously gotten in trouble with the boss on here for not 'properly moderating' personal insults, diatribes, or other flaming posts by members {made against} other members. So please, be respectful -- and keep that in mind as we keep things lively.

I stopped listening to him awhile ago. A certain provider had some things to say that painy things in a different light. I'm sure the truth lies in the middle. And I'm not sure there are many of us on here that can claim weve got game LOL.

[QUOTE=KnoxVol;2258498]I stopped listening to him awhile ago. A certain provider had some things to say that painy things in a different light. I'm sure the truth lies in the middle. And I'm not sure there are many of us on here that can claim weve got game LOL.[/QUOTE]Someone please get him some balloons he's looking for a pitty party. Lmafo!!

[QUOTE=KoolAid;2258574]Someone please get him some balloons he's looking for a pitty party. Lmafo!![/QUOTE]Yeah I'm sad she forced me to bath her and give her a nude massage all night and tell me she loves me, even if she's a pathological liar LOL. I hate rubbin on naked strippers haha. God they love it, who knew?

Eatn dinner with her now. Hate it.

Another wannabe UTR invited me to a 2nd dinner in an hour, homecooked, wants to suk me n more, tells me she luvs me, gives me free strip shows wit hubby in room next door.

Yall need to up ur game, the girls of USA will teach u if u let them, theyre experts of PUA!!!

[QUOTE=MountainEagle;2257972]How ironic out of the 25 to 30 guys that emailed me today only to know my concerns you were never one of them so you have no clue what you're talking about until I just emailed you my concern if you want to continue to see Alexia then go ahead as for me and the 25 to 30 other men in this area we decided not to see her.[/QUOTE] I understand your concern. Admin has said it before no one has ever been arrested for their activities on this forum. She post here and another site before here and not one Shadey incident or LEO situation. She does what she does and stays out the way basically trying to move on from that situation. I haven't seen her since Feb so I have no reason to defend her. I just don't think she should be attacked for her past.