Rants Opinions and Totally Pointless Bullshit

As I said before, it was over, and will again be unless BH throws in some more posts continuing the drama. EOM Back to lovin and lickin.

Wet Dreams, PW


[QUOTE=Nashvegasman]You guys are really entertaining. Can you both stop or take it to PM's already and leave it there? You're both acting like children to be quite honest. I think you've both said your peace now let it go for the love of all things holy. I honestly don't even know what this was about anymore because there's a lot of he said, she said and high school cuts going on. This is an adult board to share solid info with others. I hope you guys are done because as entertaining as this has been, it's just plain boring now. Thanks for the laughs, the info and everything else you two have done for everyone around here. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.[/QUOTE]

Wicked Milf
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk 101
What's funny is everything she wanted was on Date Check. Why be a member of these sites if the provider isn't going to use them?

I wanted to expand on your comment about your site ID. As your incorrect with everything being on your d-c profile.

Just because a hobbyist has an ID membership from a paid site. Doesn't mean that he's 100%guaranteed (OK) to be seen. Your ID doesn't tell us ladies anything about you. It doesn't give your name, nor #, nor description. Nor does your ID tells us anything about your demeanor & how you treat ladies when alone BCD with them.

Sure some providers will see you have an ID. Whether you contact them directly through said site or send it to them in an email (of which I feel to be unsafe, when ID is only mentioned in an email & not confirmed).

Many of those particular providers won't even bother to contact the OK's on your profile nor ask for additional info as I noted above. Some accept a paid ID and want to make a quick buck. Only to regret not having done further screening if something bad were to of occurred.

A good example below, that ones paid ID on a sex site, is not good unless additional info is provided.

There was a recent bust in a state that involved 3 or more (WELL KNOWN ladies) from various cities & states. Some of which I knew (of) and had at one point accepted as safe references. (I no longer do).

They all accepted said hobbyists paid ID from a site. None of those providers asked for additional info. Because he had OK's next to his profile.

None of those providers bothered to contact any of the OK's to get informative feedback.

The outcome. They were all busted.

Why? Well said hobbyist, got scared during a previous visit with a provider. He gave up his board handles & said paid site ID to LE.

LE then logged into his account and pretended to be said hobbyist. LE then contacted each of those providers and set up dates. As mentioned. So they could make a quick buck. Not one provider asked for additional info nor contacted the OK's on said hobbyist ID profile.

Had those providers asked for (Number/description & contacted the OK's and asked those references about said hobbyist demeanor & of said description & number matched the paid ID & email) they would have found out upon meeting (hobbyist aka- LE) that (LE) in fact (was NOT) the factual hobbyist behind the paid ID.

A: because (LE) would not match the description, B: the number from which (LE) called from was not the # that belonged to said factual hobbyist. C: the demeanor of (LE) did not match the demeanor of factual hobbyist as informed by the references. Had those providers contacted the OK (references) for informative feedback. So no, BlackHawk. Ones paid site ID. Is not conducive to proper safe screening w/o additional info provided.

I as do other reputable ladies who value our safety. Want to know who we're screening & going to be meeting. We want other well known providers to verify that the info & description you gave us. Matches the person who will be calling & meeting us.

I look at screening being similar to reviews. Hobbiers want reviews to be written with enough info to allow them to be able to contact the lady via her web site, see what she looks like & know the lady is safe/seen by other reputable hobbiers. You want enough info to help you make an informed decision in whether or not you see the lady or pass. Men in this hobby value the feedback & trust from other reputable men in this adult lifestyle.

It's no different with us ladies. We want enough screening info. To allow us to properly screen you with other reputable ladies (that we feel safe contacting) before we risk our lives, and meet with you alone BCD.

Too many bad things as of late have been happening to ladies in this adult lifestyle. We want to make sure it doesn't happen to us.

Those of you who utilize a paid ID from various sites please understand that for safety reasons there's going to be ladies who will want additional info besides your site ID.

Hobby wisely & safely.

One thing you may or may not know is that we have had Providers abuse our trust in this area. There is a well know provider who considered herself to be the Queen Bee of Providers from what I understand. Because of a misunderstanding she went to a hobbiest work place and made a scene.

I have had a provider try to post some of my personal information on this site when we had a misunderstanding. I had never seen her and she was getting info from another provider who knew me. Jackson the site Guru was good enough to take it off.
When the providers have all the information the guys can have their lives destroyed by a phone call.

I really have no problem with your screening now that I understand what you are looking for. All hobbiest do not see Out Of Town Providers with their own web site. So that knocks them out. Your choice fine.

But to call the Nashville Board Whiners and to belittle us because we said your screening was tough is a little wacky IMHO.

I said more than once I thought you looked great; prices were great and thanked you for giving discounts to the Military. Also, you had the right to screen any way you want. How is this wrong? I think I did say one mean thing, when I was tired of the Essays on the escort page.

Dear all I was trying to find out was if you were still in Nashville. Your screening process makes that tough. Then maybe I would filled out your form correctly when I had the time. However, you said that would been a waste of time because you don't pre-screen. LOL That's not a simple process. But again your choice.

So good luck come back to Nashville and have a great time.
Ciao!

[QUOTE=Blackhawk 101]I have had a provider try to post some of my personal information on this site when we had a misunderstanding. I had never seen her and she was getting info from another provider who knew me.[/QUOTE]That provider in fact did not have your personal information, it was all the tantrums and lies Blackhawk made up because this particular provider Refused to see him!

To this day, this provider has no personal info on Mr Big Ego!

Just my .02 cents

Ciao e baci!

First of all, I know and agree that safety is foremost. There are a bunch of freaks out there that won't think twice about harming others. But this is a two-way street. As clients, we have to give out our true names, our jobs, lots of other personal information that will affect our lives and livelihood. Whether providers realize it or not, we're subjected to the dangers of LEO, robberies and violence just like they are. For providers to insinuate that they're the only ones putting themselves in danger is a very one sided and unfair assessment.

I'm just so sick and tired of being nagged and bitched at by so called "upscale" providers for whatever the reason, whether it be the manner in which I contacted them or the way I filled out their forms, or... whatever! If you don't like it, then just ignore me and move on to someone else! I'd much rather not hear back from a provider than for her to give me the third-degree and biatch and nag and sling insults and cast blames. If you don't need my business, fine. Move on.

I don't know about other men, but I'm in this hobby not just for the down-and-dirty deed but for the [i][u]allure[/u][/i] and [i][u]fantasies[/u][/i]. I don't want to be with self proclaimed "upscale" providers who doesn't know the difference between being persuasively assertive as opposed to being bitchy and demanding. If their need to interject their own 2 cents overpowers their ability to maintain the allure and the fantasy of being "a lady" who deserves premium rates, *(I've explained what this means in a previous post) then I'd much rather just go and pick up a SW off the street for a few bucks for a quick wham bam. At least you know what you're in for with them.

Just as providers don't want to know their clients on a personal basis, I don't want to know providers on a personal basis either. If I wanted all the other BS and drama that comes with maintaining a relationship, I would invest my time, money, and effort into having a girlfriend or a mistress on the side. Most providers claim they sell companionship, not sex. I don't know how many so-called upscale providers would be worth a damn if they took the sex out of their offerings. It sure as hell wouldn't be worth the donations that they think their companionship is worth, at least not in my opinion! I'm just so damn sick of their attitudes, their delusions, and their mouth!

Wow how did I miss this? LOL
Babe we have had a nice peace for a while but let's keep it real.

You used what you thought was my first name and age on this board. Another provider had told you that information and what I did for a living.
That is personal information!!!!

I did not have any tantrums or tell lies. I just passed on, what I was told about you. (Pic's, Weight and Attitude) I offered to meet for dinner or drinks to get pass the misunderstanding.
You refused. Your loss! LOL
I don't know about the weight, or pic's. I do know about the attitude. LOL

It looks like we still both see it different. If you don't think using a board members first name and age is NOT PERSONAL INFORMATION.

Then God help the guys who give you all their personal info!

What you did to me, would be like me going to the NJ, NY boards and using what I think is your first name and age. That would be crazy!

There are to many sweet, attractive, classy providers with great attitudes that I see!
I would not worry about not seeing one provider!

Let's move on!

I do love your pic's! Whoever they belong too! Great apple bottom! LOL

Hobbydude I do agree with about 89% of your post.

I'm still willing to meet in a safe place for drink's or dinner to talk in person and get past this. I still think it is a silly misunderstanding!



[QUOTE=Miss Brunetti]That provider in fact did not have your personal information, it was all the tantrums and lies Blackhawk made up because this particular provider Refused to see him!

To this day, this provider has no personal info on Mr Big Ego!

Just my .02 cents

Ciao e baci![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blackhawk 101]I don't know about the weight, or pic's. I do know about the attitude. LOL

If you don't think using a board members first name and age is NOT PERSONAL INFORMATION.

Then God help the guys who give you all their personal info![/QUOTE]This is why I think these boards are a great resource for hobbyists. If it weren't for you sharing your personal experience with this particular provider, I may have eventually fallen for that great looking behind in her posted pictures and given out my personal information.

It is extremely helpful to me to be able to observe written verbal interactions between hobbyists and providers because that gives me a basic feel for the kind of people they are. I certainly don't want to get mixed up with providers who will use my personal information to get back at me for some perceived injustices that I really have no control over and will never have a chance to make right. I mean, once they've made up their minds, there's nothing you can do really. After all, we won't even have a nano-fraction of information on the providers as they would have on us if we try to book an appointment with them. That's a scary thought, and so we should all double/triple check our homework and play it safer than safe.

For me, providers like this and the last one that created a bunch of drama here are the easy ones to figure out. Like myself (yeah, I'm guilty of it too LOL), they can't keep their mouths shut long enough to plan their moves several steps ahead of time. They react to their emotions as soon as it smacks them, and in the process end up burning bridges that they don't mean to burn. The ones you really have to watch are the smart, cunning, calculating foxes that will have you purring and eating out of their hands before snatching you up and making a meal out of you.

I can't believe how far this crap has gone on and am honestly shocked that you would continue to drag this on and post defamatory remarks about me AFTER you said that you would leave me alone to which I agreed not to post anything else about you. If you really wish it, I will publicly post or PM a copy of the emails we've exchanged to anyone who wishes to decide for themselves.

I was completely stupid in that I shared my personal information with this provider. I was fairly new to the hobby and didn't realize the dangers that lurked ahead last summer. Haleylee09 seemed sweet and the dream itself was a decent one, and I have since recommended her to several of you who showed interest in having a dream about her, but in light of everything that's happened since, I feel compelled to share my experience and to set the record straight once and for all.

This provider has no clue what discretion is if she believes harassing someone at work for a dumb review is a justifiable action and went as far as to threaten me with a visit from LE at my place of employment for harassment and slander when she found my post in which I said she was harassing me at work. What escort in her right mind would threaten to get the LE involved for a review she got about what she's actually done? I didn't slander her with false accusations; I merely posted what both haleylee09 and I know actually happened. I told her I will file a counter complaint against her is she didn't stop harassing me because I will not tolerate this type of threats. She seems to think it's not a big deal that she harassed me at work or threatened me with LE because "This will not hurt Hobby Dude's chance of seeing other providers"??? WTF??? This clearly shows that haleylee09 fails to see the enormity of her actions and threat. It is a huge deal when she's harassing me at work and threatening my job and livelihood, and I will not just lie down and let someone do this to me for some stupid ass review. Unlike her, I have never slandered her with false accusations or claims EVER. I didn't have any reasons to have any kind of ill intent towards her nor have any reasons to want to hurt her business. I certainly didn't want things to get out of hand in this way for something so trivial as an "average" review that was mistakenly left over 5 months ago!!! I have tried everything I knew to appease her about the "average" review and finally succeeded in having it removed and have repeatedly asked her to stop playing games and to stop harassing me.

To address several points that were brought up by halelee09, it is true that after being harassed by her at work, I have spoken to a PI friend of mine to find out some information on this provider in order to protect myself in case she escalated her harassment against me and informed her so. Considering how things have deteriorated, I think it was a smart decision on my part to save everything that was exchanged between us including the recordings of messages she left at my work which shows the number she called me from. Luckily for me, she harassed me using her iphone that was registered to her home address and name which could possibly belong to her or her family member. I requested a copy of the phone record showing calls received from her number and was also able to download an unblurred photo of her that she'd posted on escorts.com as a starting point in building a case against her and am prepared to proceed further in case I have to file a harassment complaint against her should she decide to escalate this sorry situation. My present mindset is that if she insists on continuing to harass and threaten me whether it be by emails, calls, or by any venue she can think up, I will most definitely fight back with whatever means necessary. I do not take her threats lightly, and I certainly won't have anything left to hold me back once I lose my privacy, my job, and my livelihood on her whim. If this makes me a drama queen, then so be it.

In one of her emails to me, she said she started all of this because my "average" review I left by mistake over 5 months ago was hurting her business. I wish she had told me that when I emailed her to apologize back in November so that I could've possibly done something about it then. Harassing me at work hurt her business a thousand times more than any "unflattering" or "average" reviews I could've left for her, mistake or not. And now she claims to have started it because I was begging her and harassing her for verification on date-check. She also claims to have refused my verification request but our email correspondence clearly shows that she did verify me of her own free will. I also have a verification confirmation email that I got from date-check. Those of you who are members of date-check knows that verification request is a one-button deal and there are no begging involved. I even asked her why in the world she approve me after creating all this drama. If she didn't want to verify me, she shouldn't have. I subsequently requested date-check to remove haleylee09's reference for obvious reasons.

As I've continuously told haleylee09 in my emails to her, I am sick and tired of this crap. This drama has gone on long enough. However, if she insists on continuing to harass and threaten me, I will most definitely fight back with whatever means necessary. As I've said before, I don't take her threats lightly and certainly won't have anything left to hold me back once I lose my privacy, my job, and my livelihood because of this stupid crap.

Whoever is going to see you are still going to see you, haleylee09. I'm sure there will be some members here that will decide to believe your side of the story and will contact you for an appointment even after all of this. Hobbyists who can provide you with references rather than personal information have nothing to worry about, I'm sure. This incident will not hurt your business as much as you think it will as people's memories fade. You can blame me all you want for your loss of business if that makes you feel any better. If you think it will bolster your case, I will publicly post the emails that we've exchanged or whatever else. Whatever you want me to do, I'll comply. Just stop harassing and threatening me, stop making false allegations against me, and leave me alone for both of our sakes!!!


[QUOTE=Haleylee09]Please show all the emails and "calls" that I supposebly made. Give it up. I asked you to give it up in every single email you send me daily. You threatened me with a private investigator. Please leave me alone and stop slandering me. You emailed me begging me to approve you on date-check and I told you why I didn't want to approve you. Give it up. Leave me alone![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Haleylee09]I posted multiple times because he posted it multiple times. I had members contact me that it was posted all over this site and that they didn't see my side of the story. So, therefore, this forum topic "escort reports" was more appropriate to post than the other one I posted. After this, I am no longer responding to these immature messages. Hobby dude is a drama queen. He still continues to contact me, threatening to slander me all over the internet. It is really pathetic a middle aged man has nothing better to do then to sit on the internet and play these little games. This will not hurt Hobby Dude's chance of seeing other providers. This does hurt my business because people will now think that I am not discreet. If I want my business to keep flowing, it is necessary that I let people know my side of the story.[/QUOTE]

Colt made the solution to your problems a long time ago. I can assure you it works well the first time.

Later

This is why I'll stick with the street walkers, sure I suppose they could steal my drivers license (license and cash are the only things on me while mongering) but I'll never voluntarily give personal info away. Hobbydude; I hope this drama goes away for you.

be safe all
Trashpicker

I’m not going to address every point because that just starts Tit for tat.

What little credit I have on the Nashville board is from being a straight shooter. I have taken a few for the team that turned out to be great providers. TOFTT- has also wasted my time and money in the past but that’s part of the risk in the hobby.

I do not make up information or disinformation like the post below. I have never made up a post about anyone on the board. If I post it, it's the facts as I know them.

I should have not posted remarks about a provider I had not met last year is my only Faux Pas. I was told the information by someone I trusted who knew the provider.
I did have hobbiest PM me and say the info was correct but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Lesson learned.

I just felt the young hobbiest had been talking down to the board members and putting out info on providers that could get them hurt.

So the reason for the CHILL PILL remark.

Enough said!
Be Safe!


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Just to clarify

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Okay, I see how it works. Very nice, I think I'll try below.


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Originally Posted by Blackhawk 101
Just copy and edit from your PM file, make up some things to write here, post it on the message board and claim another member sent it to you as a PM. (BTW, this was not written by BH.)

1. I'm not LE like it says in the "PM" posted. If I were, being a criminal psychologist would narrow down the suspects to less than a handful.

2. Not all people going after the "clients" are LE; others can include those who had family and friends who were affected by this "hobby. " Think if you lost your daughter to one of those Columbia pimps for example.

3. I didn't understand what BH meant by calling me "Wilson Way, " but then I saw some old threads. He was an extortionist. I'm not that guy; better yet, he's NOT me. If he were me, providers and their families would not be safe from his activities of extortion. That's not who I am and that's not how I operate.

4. The only providers I identified by name were associates of the Columbia gang. (Read the posts.)

5. Never called providers "bi__h. " If you read my posts, I referred to myself as having been one (with implied sarcasm). (Read the post.)

6. Did say, "okay newbie" and then provided good information regarding valid suspicions about an ad. (Read the post.)

7. Was only rude to newbies whose first posts showed suspicious characteristics in an attempt to keep LE from infiltrating the board. (But they already have; one is a trusted "senior" member who also uses a few decoy names as well.)

8. Points 4-7 clarify the lack of attention to detail shown by some, the same kind that can land a person on a surveillance tape. LE has patience. It's not unusual for them to let a person think he's fooling them, when he really isn't. That's one of their strategies for getting someone on several counts.

9. Thanks for the PMs of support; I realize a lot of you are not comfortable taking part in the message board and just read it to see what's up. Thanks especially to the senior member with over 2, 000 posts who told me that BH does indeed think that he runs the board and has several who are his followers.

That's okay; they can have it.

Remember, you're only as safe as your most careful provider and a provider is only as safe as her most careful client.

I find the the Backpage advertisements with musical accompaniment to be very annoying.

[QUOTE=Bcshocker;1076677]I find the the Backpage advertisements with musical accompaniment to be very annoying.[/QUOTE]Wow, sounds like we are all having different problems with the new set up. I don't see pic's anymore. Did that feeature go away?

Some of you guys are either paranoid or wimps, or both. You seem to worry about getting caught by wives, girlfriends, and law enforcements agencies. This is understandable. But using phrasings such a "I had a dream about." is laughable. Code words are just that. Words that have other meanings. So you're not fooling anyone or mitigating your involvement by such words.

Then we have guys who PM me for contact information after I've posted a report on a provider. I pass on contact information. But instead of asking a question about the provider directly to the provider they want me to answer it for them. I usually put out the basic information that one would need to know to pique one's interest in a provider. Guys, if you want to know more, I'll happily give you the contact information and then you can ask her.

You know, other than Tits Mcfloppin's hysterical reviews and Kryp44's brief recommendation of Vicky, it seems there haven't been any reviews in weeks. In fact over the many months, it seems over 95% of what is on this forum is nothing but rants, meaningless babble, or multiple ISOs that are never answered.

Is the Nashville section of USASG just becoming a blog of crap?

When I travel to Knoxville, I find USASG to be a useful resource. When I have looked at other cities on this forum I find useful information more frequently sprinkled among the goofy stuff on those threads. But for Nashville, my home base, it seems that the threads of this forum are rarely of any value to the hobby any more.

Hey, look, I enjoy the humorous musings of Tits Mcfloppin because although you may need a magic decoder ring to understand it, there is something useful there amongst the hilarious.

I also find the postings of Blackhawk101, Titans123, and a number of other seniors to be reliable recommendations.

And in spite of the rantings, Quiet Xperience provides warnings that the guys here should take seriously even though that information has to be gleened from among the cat fights and careless insults.

I have looked for recommendations and reviews, but find very little of that here any more. I know I have also contributed to the degenerative as well when I have responded to stupid insults I should have ignored. I suppose that is inevitable when a blog takes a downhill turn. So I apologize to everyone here for contributing to the meaningless babble. I will try to stay on topic in the future.

I have posted reviews, warnings for bait / switch situations, and research in answer to other ISOs. Does anyone find that useful?

Does anyone else lament the downward spiral and lack of truly useful information?

Does LE really understand how it is for some of us? I am all for keeping the streets safe and preventing harmful things, but having an active partner is hard for some of us. I have a job where I do not get interact with people. I tried dating sites, even paid sites, no luck or I get ugly old fat married women wanting to meet with me. I tried posting an ad and you only receive spam or girls who send you one message and never reply back. I think they do this just to see if a guy is interested in them. I tried going out to bars and clubs but it is awkward with a bunch of young immature women who are just laughing with a group of their girlfriends and not caring about anyone else there.

So what is the alternative? Going to BP to get a beautiful woman and have a great time, or cruise the streets for some fun and then I can go back to my life feeling happy. I had a relationship and I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on her with all of her financial trouble, crying about misc things in her life, arguing about things that are not my fault, complaining about back and neck pains, etc. I realize that women like to argue just to argue as I did an experiment and tried to do everything right which I did, but she still found something to yell about such as the paint color of my walls. So for a single guy like me there needs to be a better alternative. When the parlors were open that was the happiest I had ever been in my life. On tough days I would hand pick a jaw dropping woman with a body that I didn't know was possible who would do her best to make me happy. There is nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE=Nash Manner; 1220297]Does LE really understand how it is for some of us? I am all for keeping the streets safe and preventing harmful things, but having an active partner is hard for some of us. I have a job where I do not get interact with people. I tried dating sites, even paid sites, no luck or I get ugly old fat married women wanting to meet with me. I tried posting an ad and you only receive spam or girls who send you one message and never reply back. I think they do this just to see if a guy is interested in them. I tried going out to bars and clubs but it is awkward with a bunch of young immature women who are just laughing with a group of their girlfriends and not caring about anyone else there.

So what is the alternative? Going to BP to get a beautiful woman and have a great time, or cruise the streets for some fun and then I can go back to my life feeling happy. I had a relationship and I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on her with all of her financial trouble, crying about misc things in her life, arguing about things that are not my fault, complaining about back and neck pains, etc. I realize that women like to argue just to argue as I did an experiment and tried to do everything right which I did, but she still found something to yell about such as the paint color of my walls. So for a single guy like me there needs to be a better alternative. When the parlors were open that was the happiest I had ever been in my life. On tough days I would hand pick a jaw dropping woman with a body that I didn't know was possible who would do her best to make me happy. There is nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]Nice post Nash. I'd be interested in reading how long attached guys have been in the hobby and why; especially if they are in a good relationship.

[QUOTE=Kryp44;1229349]Nice post Nash. I'd be interested in reading how long attached guys have been in the hobby and why; especially if they are in a good relationship.[/QUOTE]Yes, Krypt, good question. I had a provider tell me one time that she would see this guy, who paid her a good amount, for a quickie. Nothing wrong with that, except she added that he was happily married, happily been the key word here. I don't know about the rest of the guys but if I was "happily: married, I would not be seeing escorts. So how "happy" could he be?

[QUOTE=Jerry1235;1229525]Yes, Krypt, good question. I had a provider tell me one time that she would see this guy, who paid her a good amount, for a quickie. Nothing wrong with that, except she added that he was happily married, happily been the key word here. I don't know about the rest of the guys but if I was "happily: married, I would not be seeing escorts. So how "happy" could he be?[/QUOTE]It is possible to be happily married and yet still want variety, be a frequent traveller and thus unfulfilled, open marriage, having something without having a "relationship", and a number of other reasons. Some providers have exactly that client base, happily married but having the variety for one of the reasons noted.

I don't make any judgments on these reasons. I just figure, to each his own.

[QUOTE=Ufriend2912; 1230661]It is possible to be happily married and yet still want variety, be a frequent traveller and thus unfulfilled, open marriage, having something without having a "relationship", and a number of other reasons. Some providers have exactly that client base, happily married but having the variety for one of the reasons noted.

I don't make any judgments on these reasons. I just figure, to each his own.[/QUOTE]I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you will, ha ha) that "happily" implied all was good."Unfulfilled" and "happily" do not go hand in hand. If you want variety, why marry? Unless it's an open relationship as you stated, how fair is seeing an escort on the side to the wife?

I am not judging either, as a matter of fact, you just happened to have used one of my favorite phrases,"to each his own".

[QUOTE=Nash Manner; 1220297]Does LE really understand how it is for some of us? I am all for keeping the streets safe and preventing harmful things, but having an active partner is hard for some of us. I have a job where I do not get interact with people. I tried dating sites, even paid sites, no luck or I get ugly old fat married women wanting to meet with me. I tried posting an ad and you only receive spam or girls who send you one message and never reply back. I think they do this just to see if a guy is interested in them. I tried going out to bars and clubs but it is awkward with a bunch of young immature women who are just laughing with a group of their girlfriends and not caring about anyone else there.

So what is the alternative? Going to BP to get a beautiful woman and have a great time, or cruise the streets for some fun and then I can go back to my life feeling happy. I had a relationship and I spent THOUSANDS of dollars on her with all of her financial trouble, crying about misc things in her life, arguing about things that are not my fault, complaining about back and neck pains, etc. I realize that women like to argue just to argue as I did an experiment and tried to do everything right which I did, but she still found something to yell about such as the paint color of my walls. So for a single guy like me there needs to be a better alternative. When the parlors were open that was the happiest I had ever been in my life. On tough days I would hand pick a jaw dropping woman with a body that I didn't know was possible who would do her best to make me happy. There is nothing wrong with that.[/QUOTE]Perfect summary of why the hobby is so much fun. It's the highest sexual reward to expenditure ratio I've ever found, and I'd say it's safer than the club scene when one takes into account the drinking and driving that entails. I *so* miss the days of going to a parlor after having a lousy day and spending an hour with Marty from 1203, or Amber from Private Dancer, or Katt from that spa place where Lion's Den is now.

The chief advantages of the parlor scene for me were that it was easy to do on a moment's notice and a sure thing. Setting up something with a provider may take a day or two at least, and there are so many NC / NS flakes out there that it's not a done deal until the date happens!

[QUOTE=SirCumference; 1254700]Perfect summary of why the hobby is so much fun. It's the highest sexual reward to expenditure ratio I've ever found, and I'd say it's safer than the club scene when one takes into account the drinking and driving that entails. I *so* miss the days of going to a parlor after having a lousy day and spending an hour with Marty from 1203, or Amber from Private Dancer, or Katt from that spa place where Lion's Den is now.

The chief advantages of the parlor scene for me were that it was easy to do on a moment's notice and a sure thing. Setting up something with a provider may take a day or two at least, and there are so many NC / NS flakes out there that it's not a done deal until the date happens![/QUOTE]In total agreement. I too miss the parlor scene. Marty? WOW! I haven't heard that name in a while. She was great. I used to see Leah from Kathy's as well. Ah, those were the days.

[QUOTE=Jerry1235; 1230808]I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you will, ha ha) that "happily" implied all was good."Unfulfilled" and "happily" do not go hand in hand. If you want variety, why marry? Unless it's an open relationship as you stated, how fair is seeing an escort on the side to the wife?

I am not judging either, as a matter of fact, you just happened to have used one of my favorite phrases,"to each his own".[/QUOTE]Well, everything could be "good" except the sex I reckon.

[QUOTE=Kryp44;1317525]Well, everything could be "good" except the sex I reckon.[/QUOTE]If it's a good marriage but the sex is not, I would think the couple would work on that together. I don't think either one of them " stepping" out on the other would fix THAT problem. Unless like Ufriend said and it is an open relationship. But then, what do I know, I'm not married. LOL

So let me get this straight, some you folks have decided to quack my review of Hanabeth, but lack the intestinal fortitude to post your contrary onion and complaint on the actual board it was posted on?

Even worse, you are so cowardly, that you posted it on a silly, backwater site, under anonymous handles:

[url]http://www.dirtyphonebook.com/comments/615-491-8164[/url]

Well, since you lack the balls to at least quack the review in public, I will answer you here.

WALDT and YMMV has always been the foundation of the hobby. If you think CIM is the benchmark of 'class' in the hobby, you really have no clue.

Some of the most skilled and elite courtesan level providers not only CIM, but actually swallow.

It is actually the preference of the lady. What business is it of yours how she runs her business model, or for that matter if she chooses to do one activity with one person, but declines it to another? That is her prerogative.

The reality is, she only does CIM on very rare occasions, with very special people. I happened to be one of those people.

Keep in mind, she also knew ahead of time that I profess the importance of gentleman consuming great quantities of kiwi and pineapple, as the enzymes will change the chemistry of your seminal fluid. It makes it sweet, non-acidic, and the texture is smother. She did not swallow, but did taste it and marveled at the fact that the dietary regimen does indeed impact the taste and texture of semen.

I am also extremely fastidious about grooming and hygiene. If one expects a better blow job with CIM, the best way to get the best YMMV is to go the extra step. Like it or not, not all white envelopes are the same. I also made her cum several times, and she was really stoked and passionate and we had connected on a pretty deep level-the magic of the grape seed oil massage at work—by the time we got around to the BBBJ, so in her exuberance and intrigue, yes, she did allow me to finish in her mouth. It was a very intimate moment for both of us.

It does not suddenly mean that she will be offering that to everyone, and there is no guarantee she will even offer that to me—it could very well have been an 'in the moment of passion' situation.

I am not one of those guys full of misogyny that thinks these girls are little more than a hole that should only open when your cock is in it. I strive to provide a BFE, and it tends to elicit a better GFE.

If you need to vent your frustration and jealousy, at least have the balls to do it here on USAG, and address me directly, rather than making back channel gossip. Anonymity is the refuge of cowards and scoundrels.

Be careful of traveling providers who are no longer welcome in their 'home city'. Feel free to let me know if she uses YOUR TIME to discuss this matter.

See my post in Cincinnati about one.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9626-Rants-Raves-and-Opinions-AKA-quot-The-Octagon-quot/page3[/url]

Kisses,

Molly

Here is a copy of my "rant" I had to post earlier this week when this provider decided it was 'ok' to trash talk me behind my back. I had warned her before, at the beginning of May, and specifically told her not to ever mention me again, good or bad. She called my best friend, in a weak attempt to get my real name and address. So please, Nashville gents and ladies alike, if you hear my name come out of her mouth, please let me know. The most effective punishment is a public shaming.

Sinful Nightmare.

What did I tell you a few months ago? You are NOT, I repeat NOT, to utter my name out of your fat mouth ever again. So, I ask, why is my name still COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!

I received a call from a very respectable provider in Louisville that you were to do duos with down there. She met you for lunch (we can all see how much you like to eat) , and by golly, my NAME CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! Not only my name, but Dawn, Silk, and Rhonda's names as well, AGAIN! And, you are still talking trash! Thankfully, this respectable Louisville provider is smart enough to see right through your characteristically unprofessional provider behavior, and made the right decision when she decided to choose not to be your friend, let alone do duos with you! Did you not learn your lesson after your vouching privileges were revoked on 'that site that sounds like the capital of Indiana' after leaking ladies-only room info and harassing gents as well? Why did you send a screen-shot of the 'escorts only' form on aNotheR site and send it to the hobbyist the alert / info was about? All of this is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR from a so-called UPSCALE / HIGHLY REVIEWED / TOP GFE provider! Now that this Louisville provider is no longer willing to believe your load of BULL SH*IT, you are running your mouth about her! When will you learn your lesson? When you have absolutely no clients and no friends in the hobby left? What will you do when that happens? Obviously you don't have a real career to fall back upon.

Now, let me give you a lesson on [b]DISCRETION[/b]. First of all, there is no reason whatsoever for another provider's name to be uttered out of your mouth, and, even more so, MY NAME! Am I your friend? No, I am not. Do we hang out? No, we do not. If you are showing ladies room only info to other hobbyists, what other information are you leaking? How many times have hobbyists real names, employment info, etc, has been uttered out of your mouth to other people who have no business knowing? I feel sorry for anyone that has ever seen you, because if you ever get arrested, and with everyone knowing how much you like to run your mouth, you will squeal to LEO EVERYTHING you know about EACH and EVERY CLIENT you have to save your own ugly fat ass! So, gents, be very careful what personal info you give to her. It will come back to haunt you in the end.

Now, let's talk about [b]HARRASSMENT[/b]. Why do you continuously still PM gents, begging for appointments? Is your business so slow that you have to contact each and every gent that posts on a forum or thread you have participated in, literally begging for an appointment? You and your big lying mouth have scared off so much of your business, because in Louisville at least 2 clients were able to haggle you down from your inflated rate of $300 (are you charging by the pound?) to $200. And, just to further iterate your two-faced natural habit of LYING and TRASH TALKING, you are always dissing and warning not to use the site BP, but you posted a SPONSORED ad on BP for your Louisville trip! Desperation calls for desperate BP measures, I guess.

GET A LIFE! GET SOME FRIENDS! If you find the dumbest, most gullible ones, it will be a few months before they see through your two-face-ness and constant compulsive lies. I mean, damn! The only friend you have left in Cincinnati feels like you are smothering her, and are so possessive of her that she wants out of the friendship! Do I have to PRE-WARN everyone in each city you travel to, about your true character, so that you will KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH?

[b]To sum it up, let me give you a lesson on proper etiquette for providers. [/b]

*Do not TRASH TALK your competition. If gents wanted to hear drama, they would stay home and listen to their wives' nag.

*Do not PM or contact hobbyists trying to 'drum up' or solicit business. If a gent wants to see you, he knows how to get ahold of you. All it does is further broadcast your desperation for business.

*Do not leak ladies' room only info, anywhere or anytime. Those forums are meant for UPSCALE and RESPECTABLE ladies only, to share info, who can be trusted not to repeat or 'screen-shot' it to hobbyists.

*Do not harass clients for who have they chosen to see, either past, present, or future. NEWSFLASH! There will always be someone younger, sexier, better in bed than each and every one of us. Hobbyists are here for variety – not to gain another nagging wife.

*Everyone can see right through your non-stop COMPULSIVE LYING! If anyone believes any words or stories that come from your mouth, then they are the most gullible person in the world.

Don't even waste your time, or everyone else's time, by trying to deny any of this. We all know it is true about you. The smarter members of our 'hobby community' know it's true, and know your true colors. Many gents have experienced first-hand how you like to spend THEIR time running your mouth. So, don't even try to play the victim in this situation. No one will believe your lies, and no one is going to feel sorry for you. I had warned you a few months ago that my name should never COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ever again. Since you were not smart enough to simply remember to never ever say 'Molly' again, I had to remind the community about what type of person you truly are.

I find it funny that the only info about this is coming from Molly. Sinful Dreams hasn't posted anything. I've seen her and talked several times. Never one time has she mentioned another provider bad or good. Our meetings have always been about me and what I wanted. It seems like Molly is the one that keeps bringing this up. Wonder why?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1816216]Here is a copy of my "rant" I had to post earlier this week when this provider decided it was 'ok' to trash talk me behind my back. I had warned her before, at the beginning of May, and specifically told her not to ever mention me again, good or bad. She called my best friend, in a weak attempt to get my real name and address. So please, Nashville gents and ladies alike, if you hear my name come out of her mouth, please let me know. The most effective punishment is a public shaming.

Sinful Nightmare.

What did I tell you a few months ago? You are NOT, I repeat NOT, to utter my name out of your fat mouth ever again. So, I ask, why is my name still COMING OUT OF YOUR MOUTH!

I received a call from a very respectable provider in Louisville that you were to do duos with down there. She met you for lunch (we can all see how much you like to eat) , and by golly, my NAME CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! Not only my name, but Dawn, Silk, and Rhonda's names as well, AGAIN! And, you are still talking trash! Thankfully, this respectable Louisville provider is smart enough to see right through your characteristically unprofessional provider behavior, and made the right decision when she decided to choose not to be your friend, let alone do duos with you! Did you not learn your lesson after your vouching privileges were revoked on 'that site that sounds like the capital of Indiana' after leaking ladies-only room info and harassing gents as well? Why did you send a screen-shot of the 'escorts only' form on aNotheR site and send it to the hobbyist the alert / info was about? All of this is UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR from a so-called UPSCALE / HIGHLY REVIEWED / TOP GFE provider! Now that this Louisville provider is no longer willing to believe your load of BULL SH*IT, you are running your mouth about her! When will you learn your lesson? When you have absolutely no clients and no friends in the hobby left? What will you do when that happens? Obviously you don't have a real career to fall back upon.

Now, let me give you a lesson on [b]DISCRETION[/b]. First of all, there is no reason whatsoever for another provider's name to be uttered out of your mouth, and, even more so, MY NAME! Am I your friend? No, I am not. Do we hang out? No, we do not. If you are showing ladies room only info to other hobbyists, what other information are you leaking? How many times have hobbyists real names, employment info, etc, has been uttered out of your mouth to other people who have no business knowing? I feel sorry for anyone that has ever seen you, because if you ever get arrested, and with everyone knowing how much you like to run your mouth, you will squeal to LEO EVERYTHING you know about EACH and EVERY CLIENT you have to save your own ugly fat ass! So, gents, be very careful what personal info you give to her. It will come back to haunt you in the end.

Now, let's talk about [b]HARRASSMENT[/b]. Why do you continuously still PM gents, begging for appointments? Is your business so slow that you have to contact each and every gent that posts on a forum or thread you have participated in, literally begging for an appointment? You and your big lying mouth have scared off so much of your business, because in Louisville at least 2 clients were able to haggle you down from your inflated rate of $300 (are you charging by the pound?) to $200. And, just to further iterate your two-faced natural habit of LYING and TRASH TALKING, you are always dissing and warning not to use the site BP, but you posted a SPONSORED ad on BP for your Louisville trip! Desperation calls for desperate BP measures, I guess.

GET A LIFE! GET SOME FRIENDS! If you find the dumbest, most gullible ones, it will be a few months before they see through your two-face-ness and constant compulsive lies. I mean, damn! The only friend you have left in Cincinnati feels like you are smothering her, and are so possessive of her that she wants out of the friendship! Do I have to PRE-WARN everyone in each city you travel to, about your true character, so that you will KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH?

[b]To sum it up, let me give you a lesson on proper etiquette for providers. [/b]

*Do not TRASH TALK your competition. If gents wanted to hear drama, they would stay home and listen to their wives' nag.

*Do not PM or contact hobbyists trying to 'drum up' or solicit business. If a gent wants to see you, he knows how to get ahold of you. All it does is further broadcast your desperation for business.

*Do not leak ladies' room only info, anywhere or anytime. Those forums are meant for UPSCALE and RESPECTABLE ladies only, to share info, who can be trusted not to repeat or 'screen-shot' it to hobbyists.

*Do not harass clients for who have they chosen to see, either past, present, or future. NEWSFLASH! There will always be someone younger, sexier, better in bed than each and every one of us. Hobbyists are here for variety – not to gain another nagging wife.

*Everyone can see right through your non-stop COMPULSIVE LYING! If anyone believes any words or stories that come from your mouth, then they are the most gullible person in the world.

Don't even waste your time, or everyone else's time, by trying to deny any of this. We all know it is true about you. The smarter members of our 'hobby community' know it's true, and know your true colors. Many gents have experienced first-hand how you like to spend THEIR time running your mouth. So, don't even try to play the victim in this situation. No one will believe your lies, and no one is going to feel sorry for you. I had warned you a few months ago that my name should never COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ever again. Since you were not smart enough to simply remember to never ever say 'Molly' again, I had to remind the community about what type of person you truly are.[/QUOTE]

It's nice to know she has one, just ONE, WHITE KNIGHT left.

Just like assholes, everyone has an opinion.

I just had to remind everyone of how she operates, and to prevent her from running her mouth about me behind my back. At least I have the balls to post publicly about it.

Oh yeah, BTW, her posted rate is for 'suckers'. You can haggle her down to $100 very easily LMFAO.

You advertise you have balls? Haha!

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1816747]It's nice to know she has one, just ONE, WHITE KNIGHT left.

Just like assholes, everyone has an opinion.

I just had to remind everyone of how she operates, and to prevent her from running her mouth about me behind my back. At least I have the balls to post publicly about it.

Oh yeah, BTW, her posted rate is for 'suckers'. You can haggle her down to $100 very easily LMFAO.[/QUOTE]

Just for future reference.

[url]http://www.myfoxny.com/Story/22863801/driving-somewhere-theres-a-government-record-of-that[/url]

They know where your car is parked. SMH. This is getting out of hand.

The feds just passed legislation specifically aimed at Walmart last week. They have now MANDATED through legislation that Walmart pays its employees a higher wage than they are currently paying them. Unbelievable. Damn freedom the Feds are determined to engineer Utopia. Trouble is all of the unintended consequences are just going to cause more problems than they create.

Watch out folks, your Federally mandated surgically implanted sub-dermal tracking devices are right around the corner.

Where is the ACLU when you need them????

G.

[QUOTE=Daboyz22; 1819083]Just for future reference.

[url]http://www.myfoxny.com/Story/22863801/driving-somewhere-theres-a-government-record-of-that[/url]

They know where your car is parked. SMH. This is getting out of hand.[/QUOTE]

It has worked so well everywhere else it had been tried. Oh well guess our government figures they can do it better than China, Russia and others.

[QUOTE=GregsRed; 1820790]The feds just passed legislation specifically aimed at Walmart last week. They have now MANDATED through legislation that Walmart pays its employees a higher wage than they are currently paying them. Unbelievable. Damn freedom the Feds are determined to engineer Utopia. Trouble is all of the unintended consequences are just going to cause more problems than they create.

Watch out folks, your Federally mandated surgically implanted sub-dermal tracking devices are right around the corner.

Where is the ACLU when you need them?

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gotta Run;1820858]It has worked so well everywhere else it had been tried. Oh well guess our government figures they can do it better than China, Russia and others.[/QUOTE]Just one piece at a time is the way they want it. Once it all comes together you do not realize it or it is to fucking late.

Just a clarification on this before the "socialism" talk gets out of hand.

The District of Columbia passed a living wage ordinance and it applies to businesses receiving government assistance.

I use to live in seattle when we had this and business didn't have to shut down because of it. Could you live on $1300 a month living in a big city?

[QUOTE=GregsRed; 1820790]The feds just passed legislation specifically aimed at Walmart last week. They have now MANDATED through legislation that Walmart pays its employees a higher wage than they are currently paying them. Unbelievable. Damn freedom the Feds are determined to engineer Utopia. Trouble is all of the unintended consequences are just going to cause more problems than they create.

Watch out folks, your Federally mandated surgically implanted sub-dermal tracking devices are right around the corner.

Where is the ACLU when you need them?

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonSwanson; 1821280]Just a clarification on this before the "socialism" talk gets out of hand.

The District of Columbia passed a living wage ordinance and it applies to businesses receiving government assistance.

I use to live in seattle when we had this and business didn't have to shut down because of it. Could you live on $1300 a month living in a big city?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=GregsRed; 1820790]The feds just passed legislation specifically aimed at Walmart last week. They have now MANDATED through legislation that Walmart pays its employees a higher wage than they are currently paying them. Unbelievable. Damn freedom the Feds are determined to engineer Utopia. Trouble is all of the unintended consequences are just going to cause more problems than they create.

Watch out folks, your Federally mandated surgically implanted sub-dermal tracking devices are right around the corner.

Where is the ACLU when you need them?

G.[/QUOTE]Correct, the bill was passed by the D. C. City Council, the Federal Government had nothing to do with it. That's called "States Rights!" In fact Mayor Vincent Gray has not decided to sign it yet, so it is not even law in D. C. If you stop and think about it, no law that raises the minimum wage is going to get out of the House of Representatives. Reminds me of "Chicken Little!"

Just my logic but. If you want to live in a big city you should probably seek employment that pays you the wage you need rather than rely on the GovCo to strong arm your employers into "giving" you more money.

It has everything to do with choices. If you choose to work at WalMart, you are not going to enjoy a particularly high standard of living.

Hell, I want the government to subsidize me sitting here at my computer bantering with you knuckleheads while I search for the next young lady. Maybe the ACLU can sue someone for me...that would be constructive.

No matter how much meddling the libs and Government does (I'm a card carrying Libertarian) they will never Never NEVER be able to control the Free Market. NEVER.

Greg.

[QUOTE=RonSwanson; 1821280]Just a clarification on this before the "socialism" talk gets out of hand.

The District of Columbia passed a living wage ordinance and it applies to businesses receiving government assistance.

I use to live in seattle when we had this and business didn't have to shut down because of it. Could you live on $1300 a month living in a big city?[/QUOTE]

Opinions wanted: Do smokers give the best BJ's?

Does the constant oral gratification of tobacco cause a predisposition to being a proper hose monster?

Discuss!

[QUOTE=Jeepster1;1825939]Opinions wanted: Do smokers give the best BJ's? Does the constant oral gratification of tobacco cause a predisposition to being a proper hose monster? Discuss![/QUOTE][b]I don't think I've got enough data to either support or refute your hypothesis! If you'll give me a half-million-dollar's funding as a research-grant I'll be happy to work full-time on researching this & writing up the study-report for peer-review prior to publication. I should have it done in four years; maybe five to seven if I have to re-study & RE-refine any of the data. [/b]

"But seriously, folks" I'm not sure that putting up with the smoke-odor from the bodies & mouths of constant heavy smokers would be worth seeking them out as preferred providers! I know that I noticed that my "quickie" with "Mia Rayne" last month in Clarksville left a noticeable cigarette-odor on my skin & in my hair; & I didn't have time to go someplace where I could take a shower (because of my time-crunch I had to forgo my usual preference for [u]out[/u]_call; see my report on [u]Clarksville[/u]_[u]B'P' Advertiser Review[/u]'s thread) so I had to pull-off at the L' B' L' boat-ramp on K'Y_Lake & dowse myself with lake-water so my S' O' wouldn't smell cigarettes on me & interrogate me when I got home. & I'm speaking as a former two-pack-a-day [u]UN[/u]-filtered cigarette's-smoker myself. It certainly is an interesting hypothesis & provocative question: I hope you get a lot of replies; I'll be curious to see the results. Personally I don't think I've noticed enough of a difference to remark on it; but since I "kicked" my addiction myself I've tended to prefer providers & strippers who don't smoke around me & have attempted to wash-off or otherwise expunge or supress the cigarette-odor on themselves!

Sincerely:

A. K.