Casino girls

[QUOTE=2me4looking2] BTW, I don't have a car and my budget is around $250. Also, if you have any specific advice on how, when and locations that would be great since picking up a girl like this is completely knew to me.

Thanks for any help and advice[/QUOTE]

You don't need a car. You are staying at one of the very best hotels in Vegas in a great mid strip location.

In your price range, take a walk down LV Bl after 2am to Barbary Coast and back. If its a weekday, pickings are going to be slim(and I recommend you be willing to go $$$ and pickup a girl in the hotel). If its a weekend you will have to bat away girls left and right. Pick whatever you like. Be prepared to catch a cab back to V if the girls is wearing high heels & doesn't want to walk. BTW, timing is everything.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]My own philosophy about CG stings is that I keep that concept in the same reserved area as a roll. I don't expect it but I don't dismiss the possibility of my dumb luck finding one.[/QUOTE]

Very well said, Just because it doesn't happen with any kind of regularity doesn't mean it couldn't happen to you.

Both are a possibility If you prepare your room in advance, and keep valuables hidden use discretion you have done as much as you can do to protect yourself.

It is no surprise certain hotels have a dislike for the C.G. some have even gone as far as kicking them out as soon as security spots them, I think the robs have a much shorter life span in good hotels then in cheap hotels or streets.

A bigger concern isn't LE as much as Price, I hate to find a nice girl then get to the room to find out she is twice what I expected.

As far as LE I can't say with any kind of certainty that they use stings in casinos, but it would be hard to say that it is not a concern.

After all I there is a reason that the girls are so concerned, if they have to worry the customer has to worry as well.

My View Better safe then sorry.

Last night I strolled through the Venetian around 2: 00am and ran into one Black girl, but wasn't all that interested and then I walked to the Mirage and as I was leaving there ran into a really hot white girl, but she wouldn't go back to the Venetian. She said she had been ran out of there and that they had been running most of the white girls out. She would only get a limo, but I wasn't interested because she was already more than my budget. I then went back to the Venetian and ran into that same Black girl and she ended up going back to my room and once there she was quoting a ridiculous $600, saying I was in $300 room and you should always pay the girl twice the room. I ended up having a VERY limited and disappointing time with her for $150 and then she stole my cologne out of the bathroom when she left.

So my question is whether security at the Venetian has really been cracking down and how does the Limo thing work if I were to decide to go that route? There were 3 times the number of security guards at the Venetian than there were at the Mirage so maybe it is true? Also, with it being so cold out is there any point in even walking around outside?

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=2me4looking2]Last night I strolled through the Venetian around 2: 00am and ran into one Black girl, but wasn't all that interested and then I walked to the Mirage and as I was leaving there ran into a really hot white girl, but she wouldn't go back to the Venetian. She said she had been ran out of there and that they had been running most of the white girls out. She would only get a limo, but I wasn't interested because she was already more than my budget. I then went back to the Venetian and ran into that same Black girl and she ended up going back to my room and once there she was quoting a ridiculous $600, saying I was in $300 room and you should always pay the girl twice the room. I ended up having a VERY limited and disappointing time with her for $150 and then she stole my cologne out of the bathroom when she left.

So my question is whether security at the Venetian has really been cracking down and how does the Limo thing work if I were to decide to go that route? There were 3 times the number of security guards at the Venetian than there were at the Mirage so maybe it is true? Also, with it being so cold out is there any point in even walking around outside?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]

I put a post up a few weeks ago of things that would limit action with CG's in Vegas. One of those things is if you monger on a weekday. Selection is limited. You are probably right that walking outside is not a great idea with it being so cold. But it wouldn't be a waste of time to cab down to Flamingo and have a drink or two at one of the bars. If you are now willing to go $$$, try heading down to Bellagio and have a drink or two at one of the video poker bars.

The thing about security at Venetian cracking down is a bunch of BS. Either the girl's pimp doesn't want her working at V for whatever reason or the girl got in some sort of difficulty at V and got read the tresspass there.

Bottom line is if you insist on weekday trips, your options are gonna be limited and you will experience exactly what you experienced. I have no clue why people argue with me on this. The population of cg's on weekends is appx 10x what it is on weekdays. Put it this way......Do you have a better time at your local strip club when there is 6 older fatter dancers at 1pm on a Tuesday or do you have a better time when there are 50 or so dancers on a friday night?

[QUOTE=2me4looking2]I then went back to the Venetian and ran into that same Black girl and she ended up going back to my room and once there she was quoting a ridiculous $600, saying I was in $300 room and you should always pay the girl twice the room. I ended up having a VERY limited and disappointing time with her for $150 and then she stole my cologne out of the bathroom when she left.[/QUOTE]
You should discuss price before taking her back to your room, and if she tries to upsell you then kick her ass out.

[QUOTE=Speck]The thing about security at Venetian cracking down is a bunch of BS. Either the girl's pimp doesn't want her working at V for whatever reason or the girl got in some sort of difficulty at V and got read the tresspass there.[/QUOTE]She did say that she couldn't go back for something like 60 days so who knows what happened. I just know that there were a whole lot more security guards in the Venetian than the Mirage, but this is my first time here so I don't know what is the normal.

[QUOTE=Speck]Bottom line is if you insist on weekday trips, your options are gonna be limited and you will experience exactly what you experienced. I have no clue why people argue with me on this. The population of cg's on weekends is appx 10x what it is on weekdays. Put it this way......Do you have a better time at your local strip club when there is 6 older fatter dancers at 1pm on a Tuesday or do you have a better time when there are 50 or so dancers on a friday night?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice and the insight. I'm sure things would be better on the weekend, but my conference is during the week so I'm just working with what I was dealt. I may have some time Friday night, but that is a little iffy and then I fly back Saturday. Hopefully I'll have at least one good experience while I'm here.

Thanks

Weekend and weekday are night and day.

Weekend rates in the hotels jump astronomically in Vegas, because everyone wants to be in Vegas on the weekends.

Local girls can keep a regular job or go do lines of blow in clubs all week long and only pick-up the date's they want to, they can then work the weekend Friday Saturday night, and make the rent and expenses for the month.
That is Vegas, no one likes to work, cg are no different if they could get away with working 4-5 days a month they will, wouldn't you? Selection is much better on weekends as well unless there is a convention in town.

Most Black C.G. are nothing but regular old overpriced s/w like most c.g..

Double the room rate is a funny line, next time tell her your room is comped so the pussy must be free as well.

If they ever steal report them to Hotel Security, hey as far as you knew she was a girl you picked up you were none the wiser.

Always prepare your room Before hand, Put all valuables away in the room safe, always have your money that you are paying her with outside the safe.

Treat the room as you would your car, hide everything of value, Never allow the girl to be anywhere in your room alone. If the girl agrees to a very reduced rate from where she started, be suspicious.

[QUOTE=2me4looking2] .... and how does the Limo thing work if I were to decide to go that route? [/QUOTE]

Nobody else addressed yer question , so allow me =

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=301189&postcount=1583[/URL]

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[QUOTE=Webcams]Always prepare your room Before hand, Put all valuables away in the room safe, always have your money that you are paying her with outside the safe.

Treat the room as you would your car, hide everything of value, Never allow the girl to be anywhere in your room alone. If the girl agrees to a very reduced rate from where she started, be suspicious.[/QUOTE]
All good tips but let us not overlook the one big rule about NOT letting her hand you a drink that you didn't watch being made or had out of your sight while in the bathroom or whatnot. Just like at any bar nowadays - never let anything you ingest leave your sight.

Am staying at the MGM for 10 days, and met two CG’s last night in the lobby area. One was Asian, a 7/10, about late 20’s I would say. She was sitting by a slot machine and gave me the look, I chatted with here, she said $ was 5 to 6 for full service. I coughed at the high rate, she offered hand service for 1, I said no thank you (I can do that myself for free) and left.

Met another one, blond, about 6/10, she said she was 28 but looked and talked like 35. She said 5. I told her I would pass, it was nearly 2 and I was tired anyway.
A question for you experienced folks: Is the quality at Bellagio and Venetian better than some of what I saw at MGM? What about the nightclub type places in the hotels, are they good places to find/meet? And also, what is the median rate here for full service, I mean what is the reasonable amount over which I should not pay.

[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]Nobody else addressed yer question , so allow me =

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=301189&postcount=1583[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for answering that one. I wasn't sure if that was a setup or something...you know like they won't allow it oh well sorry see you later. Sounds interesting, but more $$$.

Did anyone see Cops last Saturday? I just got around to watching it on my DVR, and they showed two of the hottest escorts I've seen in a long time. They got pulled over at a casino across from "Margaritaville" (anyone know where that is?). They were pulled over because the car had "spinners" and neon lights, which I guess is a no-no in Vegas. The chicks were obviously going on a call, so I feel for the poor bastard who got stood up with blue balls. If that was the double he was getting, he was going to have the time of his life! The passenger who was brunette, thin, great body, and 18 got pinched because she had a prior prostitution charge, and she was barred from being anywhere on LV Blvd. The driver, who was 21, blonde (bottom of hair was black, which was a little strange) was let go, but she also had priors that were dropped to lesser charges of loitering.

Man, it's been a few years since I've been out there, I forgot what I've been missing. I'm envious of you people out there.

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Is the quality at Bellagio and Venetian better than some of what I saw at MGM?
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Quality and quantity at the $$$$$ price range is way better at Bellagio and Ceasars than anywhere else. I cannot explain why this does not hold true at other upper end places like Wynn and Venetian. Only that there is a huge over abbundance of really attractive hookers at Bellagio and to a lesser extent at Ceasars.

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What about the nightclub type places in the hotels, are they good places to find/meet?
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For p4p? No. For drunk girls. Yes. Provided you and friends can drop a combined $1k or so for 3-4 bottles. Get a VIP table. You get your own security. They will bring girls to you. But getting lucky here....you need some game to get these girls back to your room. Drunk or not. But if you score, prolly a better lay than a hooker. But effin expensive. I love how guys don't consider this to be paying for it.

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And also, what is the median rate here for full service, I mean what is the reasonable amount over which I should not pay.
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It just depends what you want to spend. General consensus is that if you go out late night(like after 2am), some of the girls left are a bit desperate and will gladly accept $$$, and sometimes $.5 or $$.

However, I wish I could drop $$$$$ like it was no problem. Some of the girls are insanely fine.

Bottom line is Las Vegas is a very expensive city with a supply of money that is constant. Higher end girls don't need to work every day, or even every week. They don't need to advertise. All that is done in the higher end casinos or through (exclusive) agencies. So for us normal joes, we gotta do a bit more work and pay a little more than we are used to. The reward of course is picking up a little hottie, bringing her up to our room at TI, banging her, and having her pickup and leave, providing us a good night sleep.

[QUOTE=Cienega32]All good tips but let us not overlook the one big rule about NOT letting her hand you a drink that you didn't watch being made or had out of your sight while in the bathroom or whatnot. Just like at any bar nowadays - never let anything you ingest leave your sight.[/QUOTE]

Very Good and Important Point ! I have heard very bad things regarding that!

[QUOTE=Webcams]Very Good and Important Point ! I have heard very bad things regarding that![/QUOTE]


Robert Johnson died that way, having been handed a bottle of poisoned beer by the bartender who was married to the waitress that Johnson was having an affair with. Apparently he hung on for a while but died shortly thereafter from pneumonia.

[QUOTE=Speck]Quality and quantity at the $$$$$ price range is way better at Bellagio and Ceasars than anywhere else. I cannot explain why this does not hold true at other upper end places like Wynn and Venetian. Only that there is a huge over abbundance of really attractive hookers at Bellagio and to a lesser extent at Ceasars. [/QUOTE]
I would have thought the $$$$ at the Wynn would attract the top talent, Maybe the hotel staff is catering to Every need and has there own line of girls. I don't understand the allure of Ceasers at all, but it is expensive for a pretty old place. Never went there looking for c.g. though.
[QUOTE=Speck]For drunk girls. Yes. Provided you and friends can drop a combined $1k or so for 3-4 bottles. Get a VIP table. You get your own security. They will bring girls to you. But getting lucky here....you need some game to get these girls back to your room. Drunk or not. But if you score, prolly a better lay than a hooker. But effin expensive. I love how guys don't consider this to be paying for it.[/QUOTE] Bottle service at the top clubs runs about 3-500+ depending on what you drink or more, it is fun if you are doing buisness or have quite a few friends bottle service for 2-3 is a bit wasteful, it does provide you VIP access though. In Vegas you get regulars and tourist the tourist girls will sleep with you in either area some might even be impressed with it, Regulars at least the hot one's always get into the VIP areas. A large selection of girls who party in VIP Club sections at least the hottest clubs also do strip model and escort not all of them but a large majority, VIP is also your best place to score anything else you need. Same for good Limo Drivers.

[QUOTE=Speck]It just depends what you want to spend. General consensus is that if you go out late night(like after 2am), some of the girls left are a bit desperate and will gladly accept $$$, and sometimes $.5 or $$. [/QUOTE]
Vegas is a late night weekend town for sure I can stay up to 3-4 easy & see who is out around at 3-4 am it is still surprisingly busy. 2-4 bills is a good ballpark at this hour depending on what the selection is.

I ignore all hand job offers I can't see the point for more then 40 for a HJ & what I picture I am sure isn't included in there version.

[QUOTE=Webcams]I would have thought the $$$$ at the Wynn would attract the top talent, Maybe the hotel staff is catering to Every need and has there own line of girls. I don't understand the allure of Ceasers at all, but it is expensive for a pretty old place. Never went there looking for c.g. though.

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Oh the money will take care of what you need at Wynn. Its simply not the meat market of prostitution that Bellagio is though. I can make a case that there are actually hotter women on a typical weekend at Wynn, but relatively few are p4p. Compared to Bellagio anyway.

Ceasers.....thats a wierd thing I think. I don't really understand the allure of the place either. But it attracts lots of really rich middle aged dudes. And those guys attract hookers like mad. So there are lots of hookers at Ceasars. Frankly, Harrahs does a pretty good job of taking care of customers that drop a huge wad of cash. So maybe elsewhere on the strip, $100 a hand at BJ 4 hours a day doesn't get you much...maybe a room, if that. But Harrahs will find a way to keep you coming back and dropping $5K or so a trip. They give you a room and a dinner comp. So these guys always come back to Ceasers. Lots of high rollers have been comped there for years.

And if anyone ever wonders how there are so many people out there who can drop so much cash so often......

I consider the $15-30 and $30-60 limit hold em tables at Bellagio to kinda be the crossroads of Vegas....you get all types...novices, pros, those that can't afford, and those that could afford much more. The games are tough enough to provide a challenge, yet easy enough that some wealthy gambler can get lucky, and beat the "pros". Based on the location of the Bellagio poker room(right next to the sports bar & buffet line, and just down from the entrance to Light), lots of people see the place and want to try out a few hands of poker. Literally in one night you will sit with broke novices slipping through their last few hundred, to a steamed rich dude who is po'ed he dropped $50k at craps. So this is what happened on my last trip. Some wealthy rancher guy sat down at a $15-30 LHE table at the Bellagio. He was upset he lost $25K at other gambling. He got to talking to another guy at the table. After a while of talking it became apparent the rancher was being truthfull, and worth a whole lot of millions. I'm thinking....now heres this guy with more money than I could ever hope to have. And he is playing the same game I am. And this SOB is probably gonna pick up the finest hooker in the place, and not care about price!

So anyway, some dude doing some job you probably never even thought about....these guys get invited to come back to Vegas for free all the time. And they're supporting a whole segment of the city's population in more ways than one.

[QUOTE=Speck] After a while of talking it became apparent the rancher was being truthfull, and worth a whole lot of millions. I'm thinking....now heres this guy with more money than I could ever hope to have. And he is playing the same game I am. And this SOB is probably gonna pick up the finest hooker in the place, and not care about price! So anyway, some dude doing some job you probably never even thought about....these guys get invited to come back to Vegas for free all the time. And they're supporting a whole segment of the city's population in more ways than one.[/QUOTE]

That is exactly why the High End industry is so successful in Vegas, They don't care about how Much, that is never an issue. To them they want the nicest prettiest girl or girls that he can get his hands on. If I had millions I would just live there banging all the hot chicks, probably till I was broke.

[QUOTE=Speck]Oh the money will take care of what you need at Wynn. Its simply not the meat market of prostitution that Bellagio is though. I can make a case that there are actually hotter women on a typical weekend at Wynn, but relatively few are p4p. Compared to Bellagio anyway.

Ceasers.....thats a wierd thing I think. I don't really understand the allure of the place either. But it attracts lots of really rich middle aged dudes. And those guys attract hookers like mad. So there are lots of hookers at Ceasars. Frankly, Harrahs does a pretty good job of taking care of customers that drop a huge wad of cash. So maybe elsewhere on the strip, $100 a hand at BJ 4 hours a day doesn't get you much...maybe a room, if that. But Harrahs will find a way to keep you coming back and dropping $5K or so a trip. They give you a room and a dinner comp. So these guys always come back to Ceasers. Lots of high rollers have been comped there for years.

And if anyone ever wonders how there are so many people out there who can drop so much cash so often......

I consider the $15-30 and $30-60 limit hold em tables at Bellagio to kinda be the crossroads of Vegas....you get all types...novices, pros, those that can't afford, and those that could afford much more. The games are tough enough to provide a challenge, yet easy enough that some wealthy gambler can get lucky, and beat the "pros". Based on the location of the Bellagio poker room(right next to the sports bar & buffet line, and just down from the entrance to Light), lots of people see the place and want to try out a few hands of poker. Literally in one night you will sit with broke novices slipping through their last few hundred, to a steamed rich dude who is po'ed he dropped $50k at craps. So this is what happened on my last trip. Some wealthy rancher guy sat down at a $15-30 LHE table at the Bellagio. He was upset he lost $25K at other gambling. He got to talking to another guy at the table. After a while of talking it became apparent the rancher was being truthfull, and worth a whole lot of millions. I'm thinking....now heres this guy with more money than I could ever hope to have. And he is playing the same game I am. And this SOB is probably gonna pick up the finest hooker in the place, and not care about price!

So anyway, some dude doing some job you probably never even thought about....these guys get invited to come back to Vegas for free all the time. And they're supporting a whole segment of the city's population in more ways than one.[/QUOTE]


Sucks to be us. If you were playing on his table, I hope you helped relieve him of some chips. Just so he didn't have to cash out as much later...

On the high prices, if you only come into town once or twice a year and you're an old guy with money, why not drop 600 to a 1k on a really hot young beautiful girl? If you think of the ratio of guys that come in at any one time, and the money they have, it makes sense that the girls can ask for that much--well some of them anyways. And if they get paid $600 versus $200 or $300, do the math. Sleep with three guys and get $1800 or sleep with six to eight guys and get the same amount. And if you spend an hour with each, three hours work versus six to nine hours. So it pays to wait it out.

Pretty dead in Flamingo, New York New York, Wynns', etc. I probably drove 50 miles tonight and walked two (but I needed the exercise).

Dismal, just dismal. There might have been some CG in Flamingo at the back bar, but they weren't all that great if they were, and I"m sure they weren't pros.

Maybe it'll get better tomorrow since its closer to the weekend. I can only hope.

No pussy is worth $1000. I don't care if the seas roar or I unload inside her. It is not worth $1000.

[QUOTE=Fission06]No pussy is worth $1000. I don't care if the seas roar or I unload inside her. It is not worth $1000.[/QUOTE]

If I've got a net worth of 50 million, generate 3 million a year, and drop $50-100k in Vegas each year, WTF do I care if I spend $300 or $1k for some fine ass pussy.

If you're "generating" 3 million a year, you shouldn't have to be paying a woman for pussy. Dinner and wine and all that crap, sure. But to straight up pay for it? To each their own. Doesn't bother me one bit. I certainly wouldn't pay it. Although to not have to deal with their bitching the next day might be an incentive.

Oh phooey, it's starting to stink of bullshit in here. People who "generate three million a year" do not spend like idiots, contrary to the fantasies of many trailer park residents. They do not appreciate being taken for fools, and know what things cost. Low life pimps and dope dealers enjoy "livin' large" by setting fire to money like that. Successful people do not. Most of the very wealthy people who spend time in town, of which I have known more than a few both residents and regular visitors, are notorious low rollers. A lot of what is on the most recent page of this thread is is a pile of crap which is not remotely close to accurate in any aspect whatsoever. A couple of guys from LA who make occasional visits, one of which has posted some accurate observations in the past, have gotten completely carried away with what they imagine they "know," and what they "know" in these most recent posts is mostly not true. Not close. Visitors reading this junk need to search through the dozens of archived reports on Strip casino girls, most of them in "General Reports," which contradict this nonsense. They're scattered around over several years at the rate of about one or two a month, and not easy to get at since there's no easy search term to separate them out, but it is wise to take the time and get an accurate picture.

They ask for all kinds of wild stuff, just in case they've hooked a drunk moron. Happens for them once in a blue moon, and not necessarily to the best lookers either. It does happen, but they could starve to death waiting to hook one of those, though they tend to remember it for months afterward, embellish the tale, and fantasize that they should get that again. Reality is they spend many hours night after night hunting for dates, and they are most often doing it because their boyfriend/uncle/manager/dope dealer said [I]"if you don't bring back at least eight hundred dollars tonight I will kill you"[/i] and she's not getting any five day holidays from her video poker addiction and her pimp's coke habit, and she's also not getting anything close to a grand very often. They lie a lot, and most of what they lie about is not sex, it's money. If you want to give her a couple of thousand go ahead, it's no skin off my ass, but you are giving it to the very same hooker who did someone else for about fifteen percent of that, and will again shortly. And guys who do that are just not the kind who are ever likely to accumulate substantial assets and have significant incomes for very long.

P.S. Flamingo, the cowboys are in town. Thousands and thousands of them for a big rodeo thing every year in early December, and the casino working girls get hard ridden and make their nightly quota quick during this week every year. Sorry, but it doesn't change until they ride out of town, and that won't be happening until after this weekend. After the guys in pointy toed boots and big hats leave town, there will be a two week slow patch leading up to Xmas when the working girls will be getting hungry.

Wastrel,

Yup, happened last year, too, when the Cowboys came to town and I was here...and they ain't broke back mountain cowboys. The combination of that and the weekday was bad. The girls are back, or rather they are here (Thursday). Lots of them at the middle bar, but they are surrounded by cowboys. Two girls had "I love cowboys!" shirts. One black girl, and three others at the bar. Three very good looking, two average, and the BCG (Is that even a term?) was bah, not so great.

I came here in the spring, and it was whoa! All over the place, all types.

I'm holding onto my money tonight, though. Hit on the roulette wheel and am keeping my money! I want to keep something in my pocket going home this time.

Thanks for all the info.

I can only say read the posts, Wastrel's "overview" hit it right on the head.

Good mongering to all and to all a good night.

There is a fine middle ground which spends a substantial amount in Vegas,
Most Casino Girls are good for us average visitor 200-500, but you know Wastrel that there is an escort business that runs high end, not your everyday CG, that runs a pretty penny.

All I am saying is that there is significant action for 2-500 in the casino's, but the high end market is Very well worth it every now and again.

1K-2500+ is definitely out of most peoples league, that doesn't make it less worthwhile because of that.

I agree with Most of your post though, most cg girls are in that position, Paying a regular CG that amount is stupid, I use to scream about pussy not being worth more then 200, got to say I tried it and liked it and got in good so now I drop change on certain girls which meet that high level of quality.

Most nights 400 will get you nearly every working girl in the casino, and that works just fine for me, but there is a luxury market, in high-end cars, clothes, everything, and pussy is no different.

Wastrel come on you know for a fact certain clubs cater to the people who blow $ like it is going out of style Pure comes to mind, Certain people have a lot of money certain people are well off certain people just get by, Those same people who live like money is falling off trees in twenty years might not be off so well, it is not a good way to live unless you can get the $ consistently.

I know I can speak for myself, I see a lot of money roll through my bank account it comes in in very large checks and goes out the same way, I think I need to have those large expenses to keep me motivated and fighting the good fight, I think people in my income range, who are in the same types of business, are three good or bad months away from a nice vacation or bankruptcy. Tax time is the worst when you ask yourself how you made so much money and there is so little in the bank.

But I see it like this, Live life and enjoy it because life is way to short, I have seen people die at very young ages from cancer to car wrecks, If I don't live now, I certainly don't want to try and get pussy when I am seventy.

But to set something straight I am not found Partying in Vegas every weekend, I am not the guy sitting VIP when I go to the club getting bottle service every time, have I done it yes is it fun yes is it a big waste? For me it is, but sometimes you just have to do it.

Got to love Vegas though there is pussy a plenty.

For the average tourist, 2-400 should get them anything they need.


But we all know High Quality Pussy is just that High Quality.

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1K-2500+ is definitely out of most peoples league, that doesn't make it less worthwhile because of that.

For the average tourist, 2-400 should get them anything they need.

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That was my only damm point. The average joe making $40-100K a year..and really going by stats, thats actually quite on the high end of average.....ain't dropping $1000...or even $500 on a high end girl. The guys dropping the big bucks on the girls at Bellagio...and I've been turned down there plenty at $300....are guys with a TON of money to spend. Sure lots of wealthy people aren't gonna spend that...hell Greg Maddux and Bill Gates are notorious for playing very low limit poker...but the only market for the high end girls IS very wealthy guys.

[QUOTE=Speck]That was my only damm point. ....but the only market for the high end girls IS very wealthy guys.[/QUOTE]

I do know one guy who drives a sorry car earns very little, doesn't say much, lives very humble, but once a year he heads up to Vegas and goes ape shit, I asked him why he does it, his answer it gives him something to look forward to every year.

I myself have not yet seen Very Hot White Or Latina CG's working in the 200 range, all the decent girls were firm at 350 and up.

I am sure girls come and go and if you catch a newbie, you could get lucky, hell I get lucky in LA quite often catching newbies, I honestly think they are the best.

[QUOTE=Fission06]If you're "generating" 3 million a year, you shouldn't have to be paying a woman for pussy. Dinner and wine and all that crap, sure. But to straight up pay for it? To each their own. Doesn't bother me one bit. I certainly wouldn't pay it. Although to not have to deal with their bitching the next day might be an incentive.[/QUOTE]
I think it was Charlie Sheen who said I dont pay for the sex I pay them to leave after the sex. He was a big customer of Heidi Fleiss.

[QUOTE=Wastrel]Oh phooey, it's starting to stink of bullshit in here. People who "generate three million a year" do not spend like idiots, contrary to the fantasies of many trailer park residents. They do not appreciate being taken for fools, and know what things cost. Low life pimps and dope dealers enjoy "livin' large" by setting fire to money like that. Successful people do not. Most of the very wealthy people who spend time in town, of which I have known more than a few both residents and regular visitors, are notorious low rollers. A lot of what is on the most recent page of this thread is is a pile of crap which is not remotely close to accurate in any aspect whatsoever. A couple of guys from LA who make occasional visits, one of which has posted some accurate observations in the past, have gotten completely carried away with what they imagine they "know," and what they "know" in these most recent posts is mostly not true. Not close. Visitors reading this junk need to search through the dozens of archived reports on Strip casino girls, most of them in "General Reports," which contradict this nonsense. They're scattered around over several years at the rate of about one or two a month, and not easy to get at since there's no easy search term to separate them out, but it is wise to take the time and get an accurate picture.

They ask for all kinds of wild stuff, just in case they've hooked a drunk moron. Happens for them once in a blue moon, and not necessarily to the best lookers either. It does happen, but they could starve to death waiting to hook one of those, though they tend to remember it for months afterward, embellish the tale, and fantasize that they should get that again. Reality is they spend many hours night after night hunting for dates, and they are most often doing it because their boyfriend/uncle/manager/dope dealer said [I]"if you don't bring back at least eight hundred dollars tonight I will kill you"[/i] and she's not getting any five day holidays from her video poker addiction and her pimp's coke habit, and she's also not getting anything close to a grand very often. They lie a lot, and most of what they lie about is not sex, it's money. If you want to give her a couple of thousand go ahead, it's no skin off my ass, but you are giving it to the very same hooker who did someone else for about fifteen percent of that, and will again shortly. And guys who do that are just not the kind who are ever likely to accumulate substantial assets and have significant incomes for very long.

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Never watched "My Super Sweet 16" eh wastrel?

Speck,

That's MTV. MTV has to always pick absolute garbage. I've seen that show and it's quite pathetic. Here are people that have never worked a day in their life and have no clue what hard work is. They are just a bunch of 16 year olds who should be shipped off to an island to make products for the United States.

[QUOTE=Fission06]Speck,

That's MTV. MTV has to always pick absolute garbage. I've seen that show and it's quite pathetic. Here are people that have never worked a day in their life and have no clue what hard work is. They are just a bunch of 16 year olds who should be shipped off to an island to make products for the United States.[/QUOTE]

You missed my point entirely. My point was that there are people with lots of money who are frugal and place value on their time and money. There are also people with lots of money who couldn't care less how they spend it...ala my super sweet 16.

I don't understand what your comments add.

[QUOTE=Speck]Never watched "My Super Sweet 16" eh wastrel?[/QUOTE]You're right. Never heard of it. Don't watch a lot of the tube, and I long ago zapped the Pimpincrackhomusicnetwork out of my channel list. I try to ignore most of the work product of the entertainment industry whenever possible, but given this context...[QUOTE=Fission06]...That's MTV...Here are people that have never worked a day in their life...[/QUOTE]...I'm guessing it probably involves some young one week (or eighteen month) millionaire types. And sure, that exists. Actually I find that the Palms is a pretty good (or bad) place for running into it. Twenty three year olds with the emotional make up of a messed up eight year old who've recently hit the jackpot as a newly minted sports celebrity with a signing bonus, a whacked out pop star in the middle of his fifteen minutes of fame and glory before his “musical artistry” becomes yesterday's trash and he is permanently forgotten, spoiled kids throwing away the equity in mom's house they've inherited, snots squandering insurance and legal settlements, some trust fund babies, a few assorted folk who just hit a boxcar payout gambling who feel like it's not real money, etc. Individually their careers as temporary high rolling big shots don't often last long from what I've seen, but when they flame out, which usually happens pretty quickly, there are more to take their place.

The Palms can sometimes be a rewarding place to play poker, by the way, for that same reason. They tend to watch too much TV, and pay a lot more careful attention to how cool they look in sunglasses than how to count outs and calculate pot equity, know what I mean? Personally, I enjoy playing against a certain local casino owner more (with a net worth far to the north of a hundred million) who actually likes playing a 1-3-6 spread limit game exclusively, in which the pots are often a little light of twenty bucks, but I find places like the Palms are financially much more rewarding if you catch the right crowd on a given night. And there are sometimes some stunning skirts hanging round the joint hoping for a sniff of the celebrity du jour.

And I should admit there are a few, not many but some, more durable guys who come into town and wildly vaporize money like that regularly. The porn king Larry Flint (Flynt?) is an example of someone who is well known locally for being in that unusual category year after year, and there is a former politician (I won't name) from a third world country who I've actually met and got to know a little bit, with his family (and gorgeous daughter), who is in exile owing to a little misunderstanding over some allegations that he looted the treasury of a certain Asian nation and is subject to a death sentence for graft if he returns to his homeland. I guess maybe he spends like there's no tomorrow because if he gets extradited, it's possible there really isn't. But I haven't yet encountered a working girl in town who's figured out a way to corner enough of the market in the impulse control challenged choking on money types to be able to arrange for a steady diet of them for herself. Some who've got a gig as a steady mistress, but they're not on the market to freelance, and while apparently comfortable they don't net that much every time Sugardaddy pops a nut.[QUOTE=Webcams]1K-2500+ is definitely out of most peoples league, that doesn't make it less worthwhile because of that.[/QUOTE]Okay, fair enough, if it is felt to be “worth it” to the guy doing it, then I guess it is, to him. There were some gals in a house on an exclusive Vegas golf course busted not long ago for providing services to the local guys for something like a grand a pop. I thought they looked like frumpy hags. Some women some guys go ape over look more like livestock suitable for pulling a plow than sex objects to me, and no doubt some that I go for wouldn't be worth a used dishrag to someone else, and while I have never once in my life been with or ever seen a woman who could possibly do anything for me in one night that would be worth more than a plane ticket to Bangkok or Manila, let alone two or three times that, if someone really feels their world is getting rocked that hard by something very different and ultra special, then I'm not in a position to say for sure it isn't.

By the way, if you want to see some of the aspiring super escorts off the clock it is not unusual to find them at the Kinko's that shares a building with the all night Starbucks on Paradise Road near Flamingo. I often run into those entrepreneurs there putting together their marketing materials for what they hope and imagine will someday soon be a career of glamor and riches to take them away from a life of brass poles and hanging out on barstools for hours and hours.

My post probably was way too pissy than was called for, but...[QUOTE=Fission06]...Here are people that have never worked a day in their life and have no clue...who should be shipped off to an island to make products for the United States...[/QUOTE]...I really like that idea, even if what they are capable of doing is utterly worthless. It would be good for them. Followed by a six year hitch in the Marine Corps, and some time scratching out an existence foraging in one of the starving hell holes they often romanticize as culturally superior. But I digress.

QUOTE By the way, if you want to see some of the aspiring super escorts off the clock it is not unusual to find them at the Kinko's that shares a building with the all night Starbucks on Paradise Road near Flamingo. I often run into those entrepreneurs there putting together their marketing materials for what they hope and imagine will someday soon be a career of glamor and riches to take them away from a life of brass poles and hanging out on barstools for hours and hours.

Try the Ruth's Chris on west Flamingo after midnight. Great steak and more escort and dancer eye candy. Seems its the place to go when the dancers get off work and where a lot of the escorts wait around.

By the way, I hope I did the quote thing right?

[QUOTE=Wastrel]My post probably was way too pissy than was called for, but......I really like that idea, even if what they are capable of doing is utterly worthless. It would be good for them. Followed by a six year hitch in the Marine Corps, and some time scratching out an existence foraging in one of the starving hell holes they often romanticize as culturally superior. But I digress.[/QUOTE] Wastrel Your post's are always Superior Your point of view is always on point, and your style of writing is very sharp and clever. we only disagreed on the amount =).

I myself have been made sick on the amount I have witnessed gambled, I have sat next to friends and calculated the hours of pleasure, mortgage payments, and new cars each hand would buy. Everyones limits are different, but Vegas can accommodate them all, that's what I love about it.

Whether I am in the mood to eat the best food, get a good legit massage, gamble till the whee hours of the morning, drink at the latest hottest club watching young honey's dance and mingle, or anything in between, I can find it in Vegas.

In Vegas, if you want to meet and to bed attractive women, try playing the higher end tables or baccarat. Once the wanna-be models/amateur escorts see you playing, they wont bother you, but will certainly try to join your group later.

I spent Tue thru Thur nights in Vegas this week. On tuesday, walked the area and the Bridges around Ballys, Paris, and the Aladdin. Several to be found, mostly African American around the Bridges is seemed. Since it is colder out, they mostly follow a path from Aladdin, over thru Paris and Ballys and out to the bridges and vice versa.

Walked over to Aladdin, boy has that place changed and still is changing. Spotted a nice looking 30ish lady on the way over and got the look and smile, I stopped but she kept walking so headed into the Aladdin. Trying to find my way around I spotted this girl walking out into the mall area so I followed, caught her at the parking garage which is a long chase by the way. Denise, slender with dark hair. nice ass, little up top, wanted 2 bills, probably would have been well worth it but it was a long way back to Ballys so I passed. Walked back thru the mall, spotted a girl in a short skirt talking on a play phone as I did but got no reaction. Re-entered the casino and found the bar area, couple of so-so's around and the girl that was on the phone comes in and has a seat, so my radar was correct. Went back to Paris, see this working girl talking on her phone by the back bar, she went into the casino and 2 minutes later was escorted out by security. Went back out and over to Ballys, as I was on the walkway I saw this blond in a short skirt come out down below so I went down to check her out but she was long gone, must have been getting her ride. Sitting in the entry was the very pretty girl, and yes a working girl, she to was waiting to get picked up. This was what I was looking for but she would not budge from her $$$$$ price tag. To Bad. But lots of action is this area.

Spent Thurday Night at the Wynn, there where working Girls coming and going at all hours. Mid afternoon met and talked to one on the elevator. Around 10 the bar had at least 5-6 sitting around, more walked by but kept going because it was full. I wasn't partaking as I was waiting for a independent escort to call be back. Saw a couple get dates, one tall dark haired girl in a very short skirt got two guys to hit the ATM and all three headed upstairs. There of course some girls walk thru you wished where but the where heading to the they have there, just the way there where dressed most people leered and probably thought they where hookers.

At this hotel security decided they had enough and started walking them out. I saw a couple of other girls come in from the self park area and warned them. I waited long enough for my escort and could not find another one (I prefer this instead of the casion girls if I can) and went back down around 1:30 and took a walk thru, nothing a the bar plus they where re doing some carpet right in front of it. Walked over by the night club and there where 2 bcg sitting at slots, security was there in a couple if minutes also asking them to leave. Walked away and ran into a couple if blondes, one headed to talk with some else and the other we started walking towards my room as she was aware of security also. Chanel was her name, she was Canadian. got to my room, she takes off her jacket to reveal a even better body, we start talking I hike up her dress to check her down below, pretty nice. She wanted $$$$$ but I wouldn't budge from my price so I told her she could go even thou I really wanted her bad, well then I got my price. Everything covered so since I hate covers so things lasted a while.

What I was saying about coming and going at all time, spotted this other girls just as I was checking out, I see this tall blond with tits half hanging out, talking on a cell coming off the elevator with a purse and a small bag even got the look and a smile but I had to leave.

[QUOTE=Member #1716]I spent Tue thru Thur nights in Vegas this week. On tuesday, walked the area and the Bridges around Ballys, Paris, and the Aladdin. Several to be found, mostly African American around the Bridges is seemed. Since it is colder out, they mostly follow a path from Aladdin, over thru Paris and Ballys and out to the bridges and vice versa.

Walked over to Aladdin, boy has that place changed and still is changing. Spotted a nice looking 30ish lady on the way over and got the look and smile, [/QUOTE]


Member #1716,
What do you mean by Aladdin's changes? Has the decor/clientele improved or gone downhill?