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[QUOTE=NoahBennett;7481371]It sounds really awful. I recently went to SD Ocean Spaif you're looking for a place that can help you calm down and relax, I think it's a pretty good choice.[/QUOTE]So there's an SD Ocean and Gold Ocean? Any clarification is much appreciated!!
[QUOTE=Kodak619;7485612]So there's an SD Ocean and Gold Ocean? Any clarification is much appreciated!![/QUOTE]Gold Ocean in Convoy that's HE, SD Ocean is FS.
Blue Ocean (non-FS) and Ocean Breeze Spa 9 (FS) down south. Ocean breeze (unsure if FS or non-FS) up in Miramar. Oceanic, aka River spa (table shower FS) too.
Totally not confusing at all. LOL.
[QUOTE=Cruzier1;7485832]Blue Ocean (non-FS) and Ocean Breeze Spa 9 (FS) down south. Ocean breeze (unsure if FS or non-FS) up in Miramar. Oceanic, aka River spa (table shower FS) too.
Totally not confusing at all. LOL.[/QUOTE]Too many oceans. But thank you all so much for the breakdown. Sounds like blue ocean and gold ocean are for me, haven't really enjoyed FS spas, prefer the k agencies if that's the vase. A good massage and HE, and maybe a BBBJ if that opportunity presents itself is my ideal. So far I have yet to find my go to after my Sakura gal left.
A few days ago I also went to see Sophia but she was busy. MMS gave me Anna. She was fence and not a granny. Good massage no HE. She had strong hands for sure.
After leaving she said to come see her only. LOL if you want no HE this place is decent. I'll prob keep searching.
Anyone had any luck for attractive providers + he?
[QUOTE=BKane80;7484820]Just following up on this. Came back from an appointment with Sophia and unfortunately HE is not on the table. Very good massage, but not as sensual as Coco's. In my opinion, Coco is more attractive, but to each his own. If you just want a good therapeutic massage with no HE, then Aegean Spa is your place.[/QUOTE]
Went to Aegan one last time to see if Coco would do anything more. She is in her 20's from what I can tell, def dresses in a way you would assume for someone under 30 as well. Cute, however nothing more than a bit of teasing.
Wanted to finish the job, but not FS so went to Island Foot down the way, got what looked like an older Korean woman late 40's / early50's? Not attractive, not great, but did the job. Would not go again unless there was a younger better looking provider that someone could reference to.
If anyone knows a good Thai place w someone younger like this feel free to dm. The only thing I saw anywhere recent about Thai girls that are also attractive came from Sakura, which I def tried out both Nicole and Lily. I really like both of their looks, but they are actually both kinda a lazy massage for the most part laying on you most of the time. Would rather go somewhere else than return there.
Hey all,
I have small window before I have to catch a plane tonight and am driving down looking for your best HE with a good massage recommendations in the Miramar / Clairemont areas. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Swimmer17;7497961]Hey all,
I have small window before I have to catch a plane tonight and am driving down looking for your best HE with a good massage recommendations in the Miramar / Clairemont areas. Thanks![/QUOTE]Gold Ocean spa on Convoy is probably my favorite in that area. You can't go wrong with any of the girls there for a RT.
Edit: Just saw you were shooting for last night, so my reply is late. Hope you found what you were looking for.
[QUOTE=Relief;7482474]I've read in older posts this place gave good service including solid massages and even table showers. I don't like that it's high visibility area (near societe and right on high traffic CMB) , however it was a rainy day so I took the opportunity to give it a try. Was a greeted by a mid 50's bordering granny and assumed she'd be my provider. Looks-wise, 4/10 and fairly slim body type, but that's to be expected, since I'm mainly here for the service. Opted for a 30 min, and unfortunately, the massage was not very therapeutic, and felt more like body rubs from the typical independent providers. Definitely leaned more towards sensual, so I had to switch my expectations to more an enjoyable sensual tease. This is where the experience goes downhill. On the flip, she started talking donations, and basically wanted a hundo for a handy. HELL to the Nah! On top of that, as she stood above me face to face, I could smell her breath, which had a sour putrid smell. Neither of us, backed off on our counter-proposals, so she switched to doing regular massage for the next couple of (very silent and awkward) minutes. She later agreed to 60, and she gave me the no look, sitting on the table, back facing me HE. Don't know how I popped, but I got myself to. I asked for her name, and she gave me some gibberish sound like Ablonica. On the way out, saw another girl was most likely late 30's / early 40's, but unless I hear otherwise, this is on my no fly list. Given that these standard HE spots don't rotate much at all, and this lady will probably be there for a while. So OOTD $100, $40 house $60 donation.[/QUOTE]One of my favorite shop girls worked here for a couple years and while she was there they had a couple other decent girls, all of whom are gone now. The whole place smells faintly of mildew, a lot of time they are burning incense to try to mask it.
My strategy is just to find a few girls that you like, get their contact info, and deal with them directly. I have about six HJ girls that I keep on the roster. The shop is kind of irrelevant at that point, but I do miss the thrill of the hunt sometimes. Though I feel like it was always more misses than hits.
Not exactly a report. Yet. A buddy has asked me to take him to a non-FS AMP. He's nervous to go for the first time. So I'm looking for a place with talented masseuses who provide a nice ending. No grannies. We'll be heading in together so a one lady shop won't do. From experience I know Convoy and Sakura have more staff, although you won't always get a release at Sakura. Any other places around that fit the bill?
[QUOTE=RolfTorren;7501338]Not exactly a report. Yet. A buddy has asked me to take him to a non-FS AMP. He's nervous to go for the first time. So I'm looking for a place with talented masseuses who provide a nice ending. No grannies. We'll be heading in together so a one lady shop won't do. From experience I know Convoy and Sakura have more staff, although you won't always get a release at Sakura. Any other places around that fit the bill?[/QUOTE]My recommendation would be Tulip on Diane. They usually have at least 2 providers at a time. Sometimes there's only one provider, when they've just opened. So avoid opening hours. Also, they have parking in the back with a back entrance and exit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there's even a doorbell at the back entrance.
[QUOTE=RolfTorren;7501338]Not exactly a report. Yet. A buddy has asked me to take him to a non-FS AMP. He's nervous to go for the first time. So I'm looking for a place with talented masseuses who provide a nice ending. No grannies. We'll be heading in together so a one lady shop won't do. From experience I know Convoy and Sakura have more staff, although you won't always get a release at Sakura. Any other places around that fit the bill?[/QUOTE]Hey Rolf!
Here is a list of multi provider non-FS spots off the top of my head:
Apple: Two+ on crew (Coco (larger) and someone else).
Arcadia: Big roster, but very hit or miss at wild price points.
Gold Ocean: Ivy, Mia, or Jojo / Vicky. Parking sucks, but a back door if you call ahead.
Golden A: Not the best place and ladies, but they have a crew.
Happyland: Two on crew (MMS and someone else). I've seen a third get called in on short notice.
MBC: Last I went 3+ on staff. However, as you know, pricey for what you get.
Wildflower: 3 or 4. Probably would honor an appointment for a sure thing.
It's a boring / standard recommendation, but Wildflower might be the best bet. It absolutely passes for a normal shop which helps with nerves. Gold Ocean is up there, too.
Haven't been to apple, arcadia or happyland, but I do agree with all the rest.
I have gone back to gold ocean, golden a and wildflower (for leah).
I agree with sakura as well, overall had good experiences w Nicole and Lily but I made appts.
As you prob know, for most places you can call and ask who's working to better the odds that you would be able to ask for who you want, if you don't want to just make an appt.
I think Sakura / Gold Ocean might be good picks.
I guess I could add paradise to this list too but I haven't been there in so long I have no clue if they still have more than 1 person.
[QUOTE=Cruzier1;7501886]Hey Rolf!
Here is a list of multi provider non-FS spots off the top of my head:
Apple: Two+ on crew (Coco (larger) and someone else).
Arcadia: Big roster, but very hit or miss at wild price points.
Gold Ocean: Ivy, Mia, or Jojo / Vicky. Parking sucks, but a back door if you call ahead.
Golden A: Not the best place and ladies, but they have a crew.
Happyland: Two on crew (MMS and someone else). I've seen a third get called in on short notice.
MBC: Last I went 3+ on staff. However, as you know, pricey for what you get.
Wildflower: 3 or 4. Probably would honor an appointment for a sure thing.
It's a boring / standard recommendation, but Wildflower might be the best bet. It absolutely passes for a normal shop which helps with nerves. Gold Ocean is up there, too.[/QUOTE]
Tricky entrance, good secluded parking spot.
Place is a little bit old, feels like a house.
Tina looks very young and fit, taller than the usual Asian, clean and with good self-care, or whatever the female version of groomed is. I'm very iffy about scents, and she did have a nice light perfume, so bonus point there.
Happy, bubbly personality, good English, no issues communicating.
Playful, but like others mentioned, slight to no roaming allowed based on the zone hands wandered. Somehow felt like it wasn't an issue cause the whole affair was very fun, for a lack of better wording.
60 hour / 80 tip. Only reason why I added 20 additional tip, as I'm usually very firm is cause she made me laugh a lot, she had a good convo, she's kinda like an overactive teen, reminded me of my younger years.
Would recommend to someone new to the hobby or someone who wants a good massage, she packs more strength than she seems. There's sultrier providers and with more curves elsewhere, but again, the whole thing was fun.
Now I'm split between Sakura, Wildflower, Gold Ocean and here, goddamn expensive vice.
As a funny side note, she was very thankful I showered first and I used my own lotion and perfume. Not the first provider I meet that mentions clients don't have the best hygiene habits.
Still shocks me to this day.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Cruzier1;7501886]Hey Rolf!
Here is a list of multi provider non-FS spots off the top of my head:
Apple: Two+ on crew (Coco (larger) and someone else).
Arcadia: Big roster, but very hit or miss at wild price points.
Gold Ocean: Ivy, Mia, or Jojo / Vicky. Parking sucks, but a back door if you call ahead.
Golden A: Not the best place and ladies, but they have a crew.
Happyland: Two on crew (MMS and someone else). I've seen a third get called in on short notice.
MBC: Last I went 3+ on staff. However, as you know, pricey for what you get.
Wildflower: 3 or 4. Probably would honor an appointment for a sure thing.
It's a boring / standard recommendation, but Wildflower might be the best bet. It absolutely passes for a normal shop which helps with nerves. Gold Ocean is up there, too.[/QUOTE]Happy land was the very first AMP that I visited. It was during LNY so mostly Hispanic women were on deck. I drew an older Hispanic lady that gave a decent massage. On the flip she asked if I wanted to fuck, she must have been horny. I was reluctant but thought what the hell. I was naked and she was willing so she blew me to get me hard, wrapped my dick in saran wrap and climbed on. Rode me until she had an O then it was my turn. Put her in standing doggy and pounded away until I finished. Let me tell ya, saran wrap isn't the way to go if you're going to pound away vigorously. That shit was leaking everywhere when I pulled out. This was in 2020 just before covid and never went back.
[QUOTE=Will008;7509996]Happy land was the very first AMP that I visited. It was during LNY so mostly Hispanic women were on deck. I drew an older Hispanic lady that gave a decent massage. On the flip she asked if I wanted to fuck, she must have been horny. I was reluctant but thought what the hell. I was naked and she was willing so she blew me to get me hard, wrapped my dick in saran wrap and climbed on. Rode me until she had an O then it was my turn. Put her in standing doggy and pounded away until I finished. Let me tell ya, saran wrap isn't the way to go if you're going to pound away vigorously. That shit was leaking everywhere when I pulled out. This was in 2020 just before covid and never went back.[/QUOTE]Same had good first time experiences back in the day too that definitely skewed my perception of that place. They would thoroughly do a 40 min massage and then finally release or do it in the middle and then still continue a good massage afterwards. If you were lucky you'd get the Saran Wrap, which I got to experience a couple times at a nearby place at Massage A Spa on college. But ever since the quality of those places dropped from my initial impressions.
Used to be called Relax Spa. Provider was a bit older, but was super playful and really patient with me. Not a lick of English, which somewhat adds to the fun haha. Got a full 30 min stroke, along with unlimited sucking on the b cups (a bit droopy, but I'm not complaining). Awesome time! Pretty sure I've seen her at Healing Massage in Lakeside before.
So a little of a delayed report but went to Spa Hans and Drew Nana. Was late, near closing with nobody in the parking lot so was perfect. Anyway, walk in and drew Nana. Was wearing a long black skirt with a tight top and initially appeared pretty hot but was taken to the room pretty quickly, probably because they were so close to closing so I didn't get a really good look. But got the room with the poles on the ceiling so I was really hoping to get my back walked on. I handed her. 6 and laid down on the table. Started with a really good and firm massage. She kept calling calling me "baby" and asking if I was ok. Did get the walk on the back and it was good. On the flip she starts moaning and gently stroking me. I then noticed she wasn't the 20 yo I was imagining. Not ugly by any means but definitely in the 40's range but with a good body. I kinda committed myself to a CBJ so I asked for that. She asked "how much you pay?" And I responded with. 100 to which she seemed to get upset. I told her that's all I had (which wasn't true but I wasn't paying more than 100) anyway after some haggling she finally agreed and slipped on the cover and gave a fantastic CBJ. She did pull down, not off her skirt but revealed granny panties. Did take her top off and had some nice and firm boobies. Finished and headed out but I noticed a much younger and thicker girl who kinda gave me a scowl for some reason. Anyway, never had too much luck here but it's ok for what it's worth.
[QUOTE=Ptown24;7519297]Used to be called Relax Spa. Provider was a bit older, but was super playful and really patient with me. Not a lick of English, which somewhat adds to the fun haha. Got a full 30 min stroke, along with unlimited sucking on the b cups (a bit droopy, but I'm not complaining). Awesome time! Pretty sure I've seen her at Healing Massage in Lakeside before.[/QUOTE]Good to hear action is available. I had cloe that last time there and got nothing, not even a hint of anything. Seems like the prior workers may have left. I would like to ho back again now and see. Do you remember the girls name? Thanks.
It was a one girl shop. Forgot to add, good ball massage as well and she was pretty submissive. Always negotiate up front and let them know you want HJ before handing over cash and pro tip, lay face up the whole time LOL.
So was in the area and stopped by SZ Massage in Solana Beach. Wasn't sure what to expect so went in and was met by a 30-40 year old very average lady about 5'2" and maybe 100 lb girl named MAYBE Mimi? She only spoke through translator and told me to wait 2 minutes. Well 2 minutes turned into about 10 and I was about to leave when she came back and brought me to a very clean and nice room. Stripped down and laid uncovered on the table and she came back in and immediately covered me up. She then began probably the best massage I've gotten. Stand on my back, kneel on my back, twist, stretch everything! I honestly felt great and figured it would be totally legit and thought I would leave a 20 tip and leave at least feeling much looser. Well to my surprise she began a fairly intense teasing while on my stomach. Teasing similar to Wildflower. So I thought this was a go. So I flipped and without any negotiation she did a decent hand release. No stripping (not sure I would've wanted her to) but I was super relaxed and knew the job would get done. She is by no means ugly at all. Just very average, no makeup, loose fitting pants and shirt. Paid 50.
For the half and tipped 70. I'll probably revisit if in the area. Only issue is it is right on the 101 in a very affluent beach community. There is a small back parking lot but entrance is right on 101.
Hit Poway Spa again. Got a nice, 30 min slow stroke. Provider is a bit older, but submissive and patient. Got to suck on titties and play with the kitty. Door chime went off half way through the session, that sucked. Scratched the itch, would recommend if you're not too picky and just need to let one off.
Called and asked for an appointment with Coco, but was told she was back in China for the next 45 days. I was pent up and had a bad thought that maybe I would get the same service from someone else there, but I was wrong. I have only seen Coco there and I should have gone else where. Anyways, I didn't even care to get her name, sorry guys. She was short, had natural titties, but were much better looking in her dress. Massage was okay, not as great as Coco's. Flip came and asked for a BJ, she asked how much and I said 80, she countered with 100, but I was ready to walk for if any negotiations. She accepted and I think she pulled out the saran wrap. Anyways, made her work for that. She thought I busted and paused and said no. Get back to work. Finally nutted and will never come back or stay for anyone else. If anyone has any questions please ask.
[QUOTE=ModernMonger;7482071]On other threads Gold Ocean Spa on Convoy has been mentioned a number of times in the past as strictly a HE spot with great results. I checked it out a few months ago and can confirm that both the massage and the finish were both well done. And the provider was cute and had a good attitude. Sorry, I forgot her name, but I would definitely go back. There was no haggling or anything. I left a happy monger.
Be advised that it is tucked in the corner of a small little section off Convoy. I went there while my car was getting worked on one morning, but I imagine the bubble tea spot 2 doors down might get busy during the later hours of the day or night. So discretion might be an issue when you're walking in or out of there.[/QUOTE]They do have a fairly well-hidden back door you can use. I'm guessing you had Mia, as I think of her the most for good attitude and cute.
[QUOTE=ElmersGoo;7527023]Called and asked for an appointment with Coco, but was told she was back in China for the next 45 days. I was pent up and had a bad thought that maybe I would get the same service from someone else there, but I was wrong. I have only seen Coco there and I should have gone else where. Anyways, I didn't even care to get her name, sorry guys. She was short, had natural titties, but were much better looking in her dress. Massage was okay, not as great as Coco's. Flip came and asked for a BJ, she asked how much and I said 80, she countered with 100, but I was ready to walk for if any negotiations. She accepted and I think she pulled out the saran wrap. Anyways, made her work for that. She thought I busted and paused and said no. Get back to work. Finally nutted and will never come back or stay for anyone else. If anyone has any questions please ask.[/QUOTE]Bummer to hear about Coco at F Spa. I read about her both here and elsewhere, and she sounded like exactly what I wanted for my first AMP experience (a great, relaxing massage + HE).
I'm new to the forum, new to AMPs, but have done non-FS FBSM with a few independent providers. I'm only interested in non-FS experiences, so I'm glad this thread exists!
I have two questions, for anyone willing to share their thoughts:
1. Do you ever negotiate up front at AMPs for a massage + HE? I feel like I'd enjoy the massage so much more if I didn't need to worry about A) how the price negotiation was going to play out at the end, or worse, B) not getting an HE offer at all.
In my mind, I'm walking up to the counter and being asked what kind of massage I want from their menu of services, and I just ask if I can speak with them in private to tell them what I want. Then I say I'm looking for an hour long massage with a HE at the end, and ask what the price is. Any reason that wouldn't work?
2. Does anyone know of a non-FS AMP in SD that has a table shower and will do a table shower + great massage + HE? That sounds awesome.
[QUOTE=Scottnelson;7529839]Bummer to hear about Coco at F Spa. I read about her both here and elsewhere, and she sounded like exactly what I wanted for my first AMP experience (a great, relaxing massage + HE).
I'm new to the forum, new to AMPs, but have done non-FS FBSM with a few independent providers. I'm only interested in non-FS experiences, so I'm glad this thread exists!
I have two questions, for anyone willing to share their thoughts:
1. Do you ever negotiate up front at AMPs for a massage + HE? I feel like I'd enjoy the massage so much more if I didn't need to worry about A) how the price negotiation was going to play out at the end, or worse, B) not getting an HE offer at all.
In my mind, I'm walking up to the counter and being asked what kind of massage I want from their menu of services, and I just ask if I can speak with them in private to tell them what I want. Then I say I'm looking for an hour long massage with a HE at the end, and ask what the price is. Any reason that wouldn't work?
2. Does anyone know of a non-FS AMP in SD that has a table shower and will do a table shower + great massage + HE? That sounds awesome.[/QUOTE]1. Research, research, research! You don't just pull into any gas station and ask for a engine overhaul. Tipping is pretty standardized and if you don't like it, don't tip well. If you ask how much a HE is before there is any "improper" contact between you, then they are thinking you are a cop. Then your HE becomes a DIY, especially if they don't know you. While laying down naked, you will have to be the first one to rub her leg and slide it up to her butt. If you worry about being disrespectful, just ask her if this is okay. If it's not a HE place, she will move as soon as you make contact. Good luck!
2. More research. I don't table showers, so someone else will have to help you with that, but do share your experience here.
[QUOTE=Scottnelson;7529839]
2. Does anyone know of a non-FS AMP in SD that has a table shower and will do a table shower + great massage + HE? That sounds awesome.[/QUOTE]Sakura Massage on Convoy. You should be able to get HE as long as you don't get Chloe or Wendy.
[QUOTE=ColPucker;7532761]Sakura Massage on Convoy. You should be able to get HE as long as you don't get Chloe or Wendy.[/QUOTE]Been a client for years now, my top pick is Lily on looks, good massage and lots of teasing.
And agreed on Wendy, she doesn't do HE, but her massage is pretty darn good.
[QUOTE=ColPucker;7532761]Sakura Massage on Convoy. You should be able to get HE as long as you don't get Chloe or Wendy.[/QUOTE]I will say, it was my first time with Ella, so that could have been it. She was okay with me touching her butt and told me I could jack off, but I wasn't about to do all that LOL. I asked her directly if she would and she said no. She also gave me a solid massage, I'd say 7/10. Did a table shower with her as well, she avoided my dick like a champ LOL.
A few places I've enjoyed.
[QUOTE=Kodak619;7533632]I will say, it was my first time with Ella, so that could have been it. She was okay with me touching her butt and told me I could jack off, but I wasn't about to do all that LOL. I asked her directly if she would and she said no. She also gave me a solid massage, I'd say 7/10. Did a table shower with her as well, she avoided my dick like a champ LOL.[/QUOTE]From the posts below, I've gathered that Sakura is a great place for a solid massage and a tease, but not a reliable HE. Good intel, I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Deserticon;7532837]Been a client for years now, my top pick is Lily on looks, good massage and lots of teasing.
And agreed on Wendy, she doesn't do HE, but her massage is pretty darn good.[/QUOTE]May I ask how old the girls are here? Does Lily do HE?
Does anyone know of any providers that give a decent massage, not full service, that also have some decent fake tits they might allow you to access? Age does not matter here. I really appreciate any suggestions.
Sounds like a comedy skit, trying to negotiate at the counter and then asking to speak privately.
[QUOTE=Scottnelson;7529839]Bummer to hear about Coco at F Spa. I read about her both here and elsewhere, and she sounded like exactly what I wanted for my first AMP experience (a great, relaxing massage + HE).
I'm new to the forum, new to AMPs, but have done non-FS FBSM with a few independent providers. I'm only interested in non-FS experiences, so I'm glad this thread exists!
I have two questions, for anyone willing to share their thoughts:
1. Do you ever negotiate up front at AMPs for a massage + HE? I feel like I'd enjoy the massage so much more if I didn't need to worry about A) how the price negotiation was going to play out at the end, or worse, B) not getting an HE offer at all.
In my mind, I'm walking up to the counter and being asked what kind of massage I want from their menu of services, and I just ask if I can speak with them in private to tell them what I want. Then I say I'm looking for an hour long massage with a HE at the end, and ask what the price is. Any reason that wouldn't work?
2. Does anyone know of a non-FS AMP in SD that has a table shower and will do a table shower + great massage + HE? That sounds awesome.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gl0987;7539433]May I ask how old the girls are here? Does Lily do HE?[/QUOTE]Age varies based on providers, Wendy is Chinese and in good form, and Lily is Thai and in excellent shape, she probs works out. They are not grannies if that helps.
Wendy is no on HE, Lily does, but she is picky.
[QUOTE=Deserticon;7532837]Been a client for years now, my top pick is Lily on looks, good massage and lots of teasing.
And agreed on Wendy, she doesn't do HE, but her massage is pretty darn good.[/QUOTE]Wendy performed a very good legit massage. My balls had been drained 2 Xs earlier in the day by a civilian / very tired so was seeking legit only.
After reading the board including your posts (TY), I sought out Wendy or Lily. W was available.
Wendy seems to do some tease also. For a spell I thought she was prepping for a 3rd pop of the day. And that is one in a thousand for me now.
How would you compare Wendys massage with Lily massage?
Leah at Wildflower has fake tits but they don't look to fake. Actually very perky looking. I got a HE from her and had to ask if she would take her top off and she did. She started the play time between my legs and I can't remember if I asked her to come to the side or if she did, but after that I asked her to life up her shirt and I got to massage and lick them.
[QUOTE=Surf69;7539666]Does anyone know of any providers that give a decent massage, not full service, that also have some decent fake tits they might allow you to access? Age does not matter here. I really appreciate any suggestions.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Deserticon;7540040]Age varies based on providers, Wendy is Chinese and in good form, and Lily is Thai and in excellent shape, she probs works out. They are not grannies if that helps.
Wendy is no on HE, Lily does, but she is picky.[/QUOTE]Are we talking 20's, 30's, 40's?
[QUOTE=Gl0987;7544837]Are we talking 20's, 30's, 40's?[/QUOTE]I would put Wendy and Lily late 20's to early 30's with eye inspection. Actual age may be mid 30's.
[QUOTE=Gl0987;7544837]Are we talking 20's, 30's, 40's?[/QUOTE]I think Lily is in her early 40's, and Wendy mid 30's. Wendy does a very good, professional, strong massage. Lily does a softer massage that is more focused on teasing.