General Reports

Guys, there are hookers, ho's, sluts, tramps, *****'s, providers and a host of other descriptions availbles for the ladies that we mongers ply our hobby with.

Once in a great while one comes accross a cortesan. This is a lady that provides such service so as to make one almost forget it is a service. Destiny is such a lady.

I'm no pimp, I get nothing for singing her praises. These are just the facts. Your time and investment will prove to be well worth it but remember... She's limited time offer.

If you wait too long, she will have moved on like every other lady before her. Digits are available with a PM from Senior members.
(Life is what happens when you are nake other plan's.)

Destiny has asked me to post her latest photo without the edit. Now what do you think???

Pick up Michelle on topeka by McDonalds. Took her back to the my room for 60. Did the cop check after pick up. She was between 7 and 8 on streetwalker scale. Topeka seems to be the hot spot in this town.

I think its time to go back for another visit!

Many, from around the Midwest, find many of those on the "east coast" to be rude, arrogant, boastful, boring and believe only their oppinon has value. "WheninVegas" obviously helps promote this belief.

If you click on his name in the corner you can read his past posts. He consistently has comments about other members, but seldom offers any new information on his own. Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Bird of Prey]Many, from around the Midwest, find many of those on the "east coast" to be rude, arrogant, boastful, boring and believe only their oppinon has value. "WheninVegas" obviously helps promote this belief.

If you click on his name in the corner you can read his past posts. He consistently has comments about other members, but seldom offers any new information on his own. Nuff said.[/QUOTE]

Sorry if I came across as rude for pointing out a bogus post.

How ridiculous to say you didn't mean to offend? You called the lady a fat pig! You also attacked someone in public instead of asking a question in private.

All due respect, Bird's right. You don't offer much info, just criticism. This community works much better when we contribute instead of attacking. Just some thoughts.

[QUOTE=ICTPussHound]How ridiculous to say you didn't mean to offend? You called the lady a fat pig! You also attacked someone in public instead of asking a question in private.

All due respect, Bird's right. You don't offer much info, just criticism. This community works much better when we contribute instead of attacking. Just some thoughts.[/QUOTE]


If we want bait and switch pictures we we have CL for that. That is not the same girl. Period.

WheninVegas seems to have a desparate need to feel important. I can't even say ignore him and he will go away... He's never been here in the first place.

I've posted more than a dozen girls in the past 18 months. One can verify this by clicking my name and following my thread back through the earlier.

CL sells advertising. What is my personal motovation to post a different girl? Better yet, what is your's to attack me and the lady. You sir, are the real pig and you bore me.

[QUOTE=Bird of Prey]WheninVegas seems to have a desparate need to feel important. I can't even say ignore him and he will go away... He's never been here in the first place.

I've posted more than a dozen girls in the past 18 months. One can verify this by clicking my name and following my thread back through the earlier.

CL sells advertising. What is my personal motovation to post a different girl? Better yet, what is your's to attack me and the lady. You sir, are the real pig and you bore me.[/QUOTE]

Bird, let me apologize as my intention was not to personally attack you. You got the pic from the girl...perhaps it's her...maybe when she was younger.

Vegas

Now, Let's go get laid and remember to post it here... WITH PICTURES!

Thanks to Bird of Prey for giving me some options in Witchita.

I saw Destiny last week and she's nice and not a drug user. As far as the photos go, she is the gal in Bird of Prey's first post with the 3 photos called Amanda Sue. As far as the second photo of her goes, I could see no similarities and the tits didn't even match. She's very fat. I should have just given her $20 for her when she arrived and sent her on her way.

She gives a decent BBBJTC and I'm sure a second round is on the menu. I'm usually good for 2 rounds but I had no interest. IMHO, not a good value for $150.

We all have different tastes and I felt it's important to share my opinion.

We all add a few pounds as we age, at least I know I have. What should also incease is one's negotiations skills. If one's looking to purchase a used car, should one accept their first offer? So it goes with our hobby. Those that over pay for the experience make it that much harder on the rest of us.
When one's mongering in an unknown area, or picking up a new provider, how much does one really know about the upcoming event?
I've had an outstanding experience everytime I've been with Destiny. She's never watched a clock. She's clean; she can carry on an intellegent conversation and doesn't do drugs or have a pimp.
I always try to make sure she has as much fun as I do. She also has never asked for $150. Have I ever paid that? No. Would I? Probably, because of the above list. Oh yeah, one more thing. Destiny loves to do it. How many times have to looked into the eyes of a provider as you laid pipe and seen the look of real lust? How many times have you looked and seen..."Are you about done?" Nuff said.
Have I stopped mongering for other ladies? What? Are you out of your mind?

Well... Let's just say that everyone has different tastes. Personally, I'm planning to see Destiny again. I really enjoyed my time with her. I'm with Bird. How often do you see a provider that actually enjoys their profession??? Believe me, that makes it worthwhile. At least, it does for me.

Providers are selling a product. Independent providers have the most limited means to market that product. Services buy ads in the weekly rags available at the bars etc. Some buy newspaper space. Some use the "Date Lines". These all cost significant money. This drives our costs up. Most never heard of USA Sex Guide.

If you sold candy, where would you market? I'd check into being on the candy aisle at the grocery store. This is just a slightly different candy, that's it. Think of the USA Sex Guide as the countries best candy aisle.

When a provider is worthy of recognition (Either good or bad.) I make them aware of WSG. I explain about hobbiests and how the U.S.G. reaches us. I offer to help them get the word out and possibly get them off the streets a bit more.

BINGO! They are now asking me to take their picture. There's no magic. I use the assumptive approach. you want more time in front of your target consumer, with less time in front of Uncle Leo? The USA Sex Guide is their conduit to it.

Here's where the varience lies. If the provider has done a good job or not, I post the real story. Good, bad or or reading the newspaper while I was breathing hard, I post how the lady was. It's my oppinion.... IMHO.... YMMV....

If you have a differing experience, post it. If you found the info helpful, thank Jackson. He's the one that's made this forum available. One way or the other... POST! I'm just like you, just out here enjoying getting laid.

[QUOTE=Bird of Prey]We all add a few pounds as we age, at least I know I have. What should also incease is one's negotiations skills. If one's looking to purchase a used car, should one accept their first offer? So it goes with our hobby. Those that over pay for the experience make it that much harder on the rest of us.
When one's mongering in an unknown area, or picking up a new provider, how much does one really know about the upcoming event?
I've had an outstanding experience everytime I've been with Destiny. She's never watched a clock. She's clean; she can carry on an intellegent conversation and doesn't do drugs or have a pimp.
I always try to make sure she has as much fun as I do. She also has never asked for $150. Have I ever paid that? No. Would I? Probably, because of the above list. Oh yeah, one more thing. Destiny loves to do it. How many times have to looked into the eyes of a provider as you laid pipe and seen the look of real lust? How many times have you looked and seen..."Are you about done?" Nuff said.
Have I stopped mongering for other ladies? What? Are you out of your mind?[/QUOTE]


I've followed your forum with interest since our little photo exchange. So is this the way 'the community works' in Wichita?

1. We post a questionable picture of a provider (no longer in doubt given eye witness report)
2. We recommend her to a fellow monger from out of town
3. We do not advise him on reasonable cost
4. He expresses his disappointment with the session
5. We then get on his case for not being a good negotiator and for forgetting that 'we all put on a few pounds as we age'.

No apology, no resentment. No shame.

OK... This is getting a little much.

The way the "community" works here is this.

1. We post our experiences.
2. Others review our posts and make their own decisions on accessing services.
3. If they decide to access those services, they make their best deal.
4. They post their experiences.
5. We review their posts and make decisions on whether or not to continue accessing the same services. We also comment if we see something worthy of comment.

If you read any board on here, you'll find that those who drive the price up by paying too much get some feedback. I am no rockafeller. Result: I want the best service at the most affordable price. If someone is interfering with that little equation, I'm gonna comment!

The bottom line is this... the quality of service, just like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Even away from the hobby, two guys can look at the same woman and find her to be an 8 and a 4. Those same two guys could take her for a spin and have equally variable results. In the end, the simple message is this: YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY and YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION OF WHAT IS WORTH THE MONEY.

Please, feel free to debate quality, price, etc. However, I take offense when you suggest that those of us who contribute regularly are doing something wrong. I'm not going to comment again on the picture issue. It is what it is. However, the comments made on the site, in my humble opinion, have been wholly appropriate, with the exception of those who wish to attack instead of supporting the cause.

Well, that's my $0.02 worth... No hard feelings, only my honest opinion.

The difference in taste on this one is quite dramatic, but hey...that's part of the reason we're here.

The posting of a false photo provided by the provider is another thing, and it was fake. My fault though for following through with it. The $150 price tag was recommended to me.

You guys need to come up to Denver sometime.

I just downloaded the following picture from the Rockford, illinois board dated October 6th. I didn't take it, I didn't edit it, I didn't upload it to that board only to spring it on you now! This is an extreme example of two pictures of the same girl side by side. Life on the street is hard.

I've just reviewed my PM's with Major Dude and find not one mention of a donation amount from either of us. I reviewed all PM's regarding donations and found one listing $60-$80 as my typical donation to her and another as $30 to another provider. Even though Major Dude listed his phone number in his PM to me, I never spoke with him. If $150 was recomended, it wasn't by me. That being said, my past $150-$300 experiences with faceless escorts don't compare with my $30 - $60 and $80 experiences with Destiny.

Thanks so much, MD for your invitation to Denver. Your posts on that board seem to be missing entirely, however. Your 5 total posts seem to be dedicated to disparaging Destiny and the effectness of Viagra. My experience with both of these must have been better than both of yours.

How about I refund any money any fellow monger alleges he paid for time wih Destiny even though I in now way profited. (I can't ask her for the money, she's already blowing the motel clerk for tonight's rent.);
The monger can then make an appointment with Sinfull Wish.com for a lady of their choice (I'll have the date prepaid by credit card);
I'll then spring for a room with a big Jacuzzi at the Hyatt (I have to use a coupon, I hope you don't mind.);

And finally... Anyone disatisfied with their experience can have 3 tries to run Destiny down with their car in the Auto Motel Parking Lot (This might take a little convincing on my part, so let's not let her know ahead of time, OK??)

Extreme, you say? No way, a reputation has been impuned!

You are missing the point. Nobody is denying people change and we all have personal preferences as to what is attractive and what is not.

The point is: don't post pictures of girls when you know the girl no longer looks like that or it's not the same girl. I'm sure Major Dude felt he was getting the Destiny in the last posted picture and would have said 'No thanks' if he knew she looked like Destiny from the first set of pics.

Do what you want....Pulling that last picture would be a nice gesture in my book.

Later,
Vegas
PS. I purposely didn't re-post your pics to minimize visibility to our discussion.

You know, when you have a winner, its always best to stick with it. I tried calling the young lady of much debate a few weeks ago and she was otherwise occupied. Instead of waiting for her to call back, I got antsy and took advice from a "friend" who is not a regular player in our little sport.

Anyway, I visited one of our local provider establishments, ran by a lady named Jessie and bearing her name. I saw an "18" year old brunette, never caught her name. If I find her on their site, I'll post it. Anyway, after 1.75 for an hour, I had the privilege of hearing all of her rules... no backdoor, no her on top, no fingers in the box, and she doesn't like oral. JEEZ. Anyway, I finally got bored listening to her talk about everything under the sun while we tried to go at it and started counting the number of times she asked me what time it was. 14. That's right, in 60 minutes, she checked the time 14 times. I finally just excused her and took my lumps.

The hell of it is that my call was returned when I was late back to work and couldn't take advantage of the reliable provider. BUT, I do believe I'll correct that tomorrow.

There are givers and takers... There are those that listen and those that would rather drone on endlessly... There are those that beleive and those that search and fail... Me? Why, I believe I'll help myself to your recomendation and have a little more too. Wanna share????

The "provider" was Blossoming Beauty. I have heard good things about Jessies. But, for the money, the service was worthless. Trust me, guys, save money and pursue the hobby the old fashioned way!

What do you give to the man that makes appointments after appointments but then doesn't show??? Evidently, it's motovation to never do that agian. A hookers motovation probably would include standing the guy up, send a pimp in her place or the ever popular Cash & Dash.

Destiny read about Ict's bad experience with Jessie's and felt so bad she arranged for a girl freind to meet her when ICT called for an appointment so thet couls double team him... he didn't show... talk about your bad timing! Was shes pissed off? Nope, she rescheduled for Sat... he didn't show again. Pissed off now for sure. right? Not that I could see.

She called me to help her work out her frustrations. What could I do??? At her insistence we stopped by Pricillas and picked up some things to make her feel better... Handcuffs, Tea Candles and a kit called "Spank Me". Let . me be very clear, these toys weren't for me OR ICT. Did she feel better after our date? I know I did... when she came 5 Times!

Hey Dumbshit. The ball is in play for Monday night. I can't wait for you to chicken out again!!!!

I was working late at the office Sunday and dicided to hit the stroll on the way home. It was after midnight, dark of course, and still several girls were working. Nothing that realy jumped out at me, so to speak. I've recently been experiencing great satisfaction with my regular squeeze, Destiny.

That was til a chick dressed all in black litteraly jumped out in front of my car! I'd never seen her before and just out of curiousity, I decided to check her out.

She had a beak nose and a confused way of expressing herself (Crack talk) so I began to circle the block to drop her off. When she figured out what was about to happen, she straightened up. Unzipped by pants and payed me lip service. No money up front, just a promise of complete satisfaction. Oof we went.

Chrisy, Christina, Lady "T' ...obviously a woman of many names is a lil' one. She has a tatoo of a rose on her ass and likes to get kinky. (I hate that, don't you?) She likes it up the ass. (But not on the first date, she wants to reserves somethings to keep her regulars coming back.) She does massage therapy and feels some parts of the male anatomy must be massaged only by the tongue. (I enjoy a spirited hand job occasionally but who am I to argue with a Lady (T) ?)

Sorry bout no pictures. One, I didn't have my camera. Two, the photos would not be a major selling point anyway. From performance stance I rate her a 6.5. She tried upselling several times but continued to apply herself without additional compensation, and talks far too much... even with her mouth full. Digits available to senior members.

Hello Kids,
It's been a while since I've been here. Maybe to long but now I am back. I've been reading some of the more recent back logs and I think now I'm up to speed. SO...Whats UP? Lets all play nice now and get back to helping each ohter out. With that in mind I would like to say that I would be more than happy to take you all up and give Destiny a visit. Sounds and looks good to me. I'll even be more than happy with the double team thing too. ;-)

Anyway Glad to be back and look forward to reading and contributing as time permits.

JrJayhawk

First of all, yup. I ended up standing her up a couple of times, but not because I didn't want to be there. Believe me, I would love to have partaken both times. However, my job often gives me no notice of its demands on my tme and she often needs an hour or two before she can meet. Unfortunately, both times I was called away before she was available. I couldn't take calls as I was tied up with work. While she is awesome, she could be a little more accessible.

Nevertheless, I was ready to play tonight, made damn sure there would be no interruptions and now she was nowhere to be found. The ball may have been in play, but the tight end never took the field. Waited over two hours for her and finally gave up.

Oh well, maybe I'll still get the opportunity to see her again. I know if she surfaces and can be available I won't stand her and her friend up!

I am never serious. I alwasy go for the joke. Except when I screw up. Then I seriously screw up. I was trying to be humorous about how Destiny and ICT kept missing their date. Our hobby demands some degree of secrecy (at least for those of us that are married).

Often times, the plans we make to spend time perfecting our hobby are changed at the last minute by outside forces. (Just like I was experiencing last night with you on the phone.) (Just like similar forces and somtimes much more sinister forces can make our providers
unavailable at the last moment, also)

If in any way offended you ICT, it was not my intention. You have been a perfect gentleman to me, on the board and to others who know who they are.

I appologize that my poking fun in jest may have seemed out of line and maybe it was. Please forgive my embarrasing you in public. You deserve much better.

No worries, Bird. I understand. I just didn't want anything thinking I go around standing people up just for fun. And, I do have to admit, our mutual friend has been more than accommodating of my last minute disappearances, as you rightly point out.

Personally, I intend to forget this whole thing and go spend some quality time with our mutual friend. I'll report back on my success.

You know... there's two sides to our hobby. On the one hand, there's the concept of non-committal fun where the pressure to perform is off. After all, if I'm providing the donation, I don't have to make anyone else happy, I just get to have fun. That definitely has its appeal. After all, many of us hobbyists are married and have our share of trying to keep someone happy. Sometimes, it can be fun to just think about one's self and have a good time selfishly indulging. On the other hand, there is also the pleasure of sharing a good time with a young lady. Still no pressure, but when she's involved and enjoying herself, it can be just as fulfilling to share the fun.

I've said all that to say this.

I spent an hour and a half last night with Destiny. I have NEVER IN MY LIFE had a provider not only not be angry with me for standing her up twice, but then apologize when she missed the next appointment through no fault of her own. I've also never had a provider genuinely want to make me happy. That is, until last night. Now, don't get me wrong. I've had great service and great experiences before. But, last night was something different.

Destiny was genuinely driven to make me happy. She wasn't just providing good service, she was determined to make me happy. She started with a massage and some cuddling, then followed with, BAR NONE, the very BEST oral experience of my life. She loved every second of it, as did I. After a while, I took over on the oral arguments and convinced her to have one hell of an orgasm. She was actually out of breath and complimented my skill. Well, after that, I had to let her do the mouth work for a bit. But, having had the pleasure of tasting and touching her special place, I just had to dive in for some fun. She climbed aboard and took a rodeo ride like a true cowgirl. We discussed favorite positions and discovered we shared the same favorite. However, I was having too much fun with her oral skills and decided to finish that way, after making sure she saw a second good time during the rodeo. Once she caught her breath, we went back to the "dick-scussions."

After I was satisfied, we both cleaned up and spent a few more minutes talking. We then settled on a fair price and I tipped a bit to show my appreciation for her service. God help me, if I weren't married, she could be a real addiction! As it is, I may never monger again as long as she's around. You gotta love it when you get all the fun of mongering and a good acquaintance too!

Bird, I gotta tell ya, this is the find of the century!

As you can tell by ICT's post, all providers are not created equal.

Simply put... Destiny was the best sex I've ever had. No others have even come close. And I'll never know that feeling again.

Destiny disappeared tonight for the final time. At least as far as I'm concerned.

The police picked her up on a parole violation that said if she got arrested for anything she goes back to jail. She called the cops to come protect her from a psychopath and she then takes the fall. Her voice on the phone begging for help made no matter.

She confided in me yesterday that she had a meeting Friday morning that most likely would send he to jail for an extended stay. Her voice told me she was on the verge of a break down. I begged her to listen to reason and not let fear make her do something really stupid.

Once a girl is "in" the jail system, she is litteraly hounded at every level. She can't get a regular job because of a record, no matter what the "offence". If she hits the streets, she takes her life in her hands with either the cops or johns. She is forced to choose between paying her fines or paying her food and rent. She is the lowest class of slave on earth with little hope of escape.

These are realities gentlemen. It's not our fault as hobbiests. It's the Christain Militia that demands their pound of flesh. It makes me sick to my stomach. I won't be part of this any more.

Bird of Prey ... Out.

I hope this don't mean that you are leaving us for good. Take some time and regroup. Do what you must. Always take care of yourself. When ready at least come back and let us know how your doing.

Til Later
JrJayhawk

Somehow the phone ring didn't sound the same. As I was returned to the enevitable emptiness of no Destiny for who knows how long the voice on that phone belonged to Aly, Destiny's best freind. She wanted to be consoled as much as to console.She said she was going to stop by in about 15 minutes, could I be ready? Ready for what???

What transpired was 10 minutes of pleasantries, followed by 45 minutes of pleasure that was tragically interupted by previous unavoidable appointment... by me! The lady came 3 times and we barely got started.

These girls are like night and day. One is submissive, the other very aggressive. I can't wait to see what the two of them together will be like.

Don't get me wrong, I can't wait for Destiny to put this nightmare behind her. In the mean time tho, Ally is going to make the time much much easier.

Pictures to follow.

Thanks Bird,
Glad to see your still in the saddle...

Jj

Yes it can and sooner than we may think according to our friends in Baltimore. Read the following; Watch the skys (At least at street light height) and report back here any activity on the strolls that is suspect!

[url]http://www.examiner.com/a-356798~Denver__others_taking_interest_in_Baltimore_s_surveillance_system.html[/url]
[url]http://www.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=10405[/url]

RTFF

Next thing you know, uncle leo is gonna start stuffin GPS devices up our arses! They can't catch us fair, so they gotta cheat!

I was cruizin the SBW stroll with thoughts of a quick dinner then back to work. I turned down a side street to make the driveway and the cutest lil Milf jumped right in the side door of my car.
Wanda had a business opertunity to discuss and would not take no for an answer. My most recent reports have centered around the 23-29 year olds. Remembering that it can take years for a fine wine to age, I decided I'd roll the dice with this 40y.o. just for the team.

I'm happy to report that maturity has it's advantages. She sucked, stroked, massaged, pumped and swallowed like any teen I've had and then thanked me for the good time.

She's looking forward to posting some pics here this weekend if I can find time. She says there's a whjole new covey of girls working SBW in the mornings before work. Check em out!

Promised pics when I got back in the saddle, so here goes.

No details??? Come on, TM.... Where's the story?

Once a Crackwhore, always a crackwhore. If you think otherwise you've never been with one for very long. If you follow this forum for any time period you've read all the raves and rants about Destiny. To date I've been her leading advocate, but no more.

I did the unthinkable, I thought I could change her. I thought because she provided me with the best sex of my exsistence there was some bond between us. There was, I had something she wanted which was access to you therfore a consistent access to new customers with less time on the street.

So here is the unvarnished truth. I found her on the street, was inside her within 15 minutes and she was in my head even further. I've paid for hotels for weeks; bailed her out of jail; saw to it she had money every week in jail; and recently even paid for her attorney.

She's been out of jail three days, she went directly to the street and hasn't had a single momment to see or god forbid... thank me. What was I thinking might happen?

Crackwhores live to smoke crack. They F*** (and some even F*** exceptionally well) to make the money to get the rocks. Crack makes permanent changes to the ways the mind works. Love doesn't matter. Family doesn't matter. Other people depending on you doesn't matter. Commitment exists only to the pipe. Crack ****** can focus only on getting thier next hit. If you are in thier way, you become a statistic. Trust a crackwhore to be a crackwhore. Anything else is just your imagination.

From now on my fellow hobbyests, you can trust I will be remembering my name for what the creature really is.