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I think it is fool-hearty to post full details on ANY public board.
I believe that "friends" look out for "friends". I'll take prudent steps to protect my "friends" from LE, ROB's, and jerks. Less security = less details, and conversely, higher security = more details. JMO
I haven't posted much of late, simply because it DOES seem to lead to my favorites being closed down. In fact, every time I see some sort of details posted here, I know that the place mentioned will be closed soon. I figure the CAMP mentioned below is next. Too bad, I had a good time there.
If you think LE doesn't watch this forum, you're unbelievably naive. Apparently LA LE doesn't care to be interviewed about it, but other PDs in other towns have been, and they admit to getting leads from these forums. I can't believe LA is an exception.
Pickings in the Valley are too slim as it is. We may not know for sure who can be trusted and who can't, but we can make our best effort.
Sunday 12:15pm
Just called the place and again, Lisa is not working. Only available is Cindy (reviewed earlier) & Sophie (unknown). Will pass.
Lots of places are popping up in the LA weekly lately with locations in thw west SFV, but I'm skeptic.
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.
Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.
Mike[/QUOTE]
I went here on Saturday afternoon and the place was dead. I was let in by a very nice and friendly Chinese lady and led to a room. I told her I wanted the hour for 60 with the table shower, I love those. She asked me to undress as she left to go get the room ready. The table shower was nice and she washed everything and dried me off then back to the room and she left.
A knock at the door and another lady came in. She was Chinese, 27 years old, from San Francisco, nice little body and very friendly and flirty.
As she got me worked up I started to undress her and she never stopped me so I kept going until she was naked. I fingered her, kissed her tits and then I lifted her onto the table tried to get it inside her. At this point she made it clear that that was not an option and she asked if I had protection, which I did, and offered a BJ. In the end she wanted 100 for a CBJ and she would not budge. I told her no thank you just finish the massage. She did finish the massage and kept messing with me trying to get me to change my mind. It was fun and she was a real tease. She got me dressed and walked me to the front door where the other lady was waiting. I got a big hug from both of them and left. I didn't even leave a tip and not a word was said.
[QUOTE=Friendly Tiger]This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.
I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...
...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL
She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.
I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.
Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.[/QUOTE]
Sorry you toftt, Mike. :(
That's a first: an AMP girl who let's you strip her, finger her, but won't finish the deed! I never would have guessed that my girl would have drawn that kinda line.
FT
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]OCA,
Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...
Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...[/QUOTE]
OCA = useless. OCA you remind me of Seinfeld a.k.a. Hizark.
[QUOTE=Webcams]I disagreed with these statements in the past, but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.
Example:
Soandso
Member 68 Posts.
He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place[/QUOTE]
Damn, you said it bro! I feel you on every point you made in your post. Read what Webcams said fools! The best info is shared via PM. Earn your stripes and reap the rewards.
Joe
Some of you guys are extremely nieve if you think LE relies on this board for useful intel. (keyword here being USEFUL). Besides, don't you think LE is smart enough to know that in order to get real intel here you have to post enough to become "trusted"? They're NOT idiots, and contrary to what they might want you to think, an internet forum isn't going to be their prime source of intel when they have hundreds of officers interacting with hundreds of girls/jons on the street every day. I'm not advocating open availability of providers' info, I just think some of you on this board might have somewhat of a false sense of security due to the PM and postcount features :p . I guess it all boils down to who they choose to go after. We all know LE has TONS of intel but will(can?) only investigate so much.
[QUOTE=Dark A] I just think some of you on this board might have somewhat of a false sense of security due to the PM and postcount features :p .....
We all know LE has TONS of intel but will(can?) only investigate so much.[/QUOTE]
tRUE AND TRUE, nEVER EVER SAY ANYTHING INCRIMINATING TO ANYONE AT ANYTIME PERIOD, iT DOESN'T MATTER who IT IS OR WHERE YOU ARE
PM IS no diffrent, always use caution, but to share top secret info with those that have shared good intel is the best route, just not enough places left, Oh and LE are idiots it takes them forever to figure this stuff out, they falsify shit, make bogus arrests, violate everyones rights no wonder they get there ass shot and crippled, I for one feel no sympathy for pigs, there are very few who are good honest cops, the rest are crooked impotent abused disfunctional people. not a generalization, I would bet I know more le then the LE on this borad. If you want to know suicidal anti depresant abusing miserable people come hang out with some of the people that live in my area, LE are no diffrent then regular people and they with regularity take out there agressions and problems on the public. and yes LE do frequent the quieter establishments that's a fact, some even do s/w's.
I'm wondering if there is more than one place in WH? I reread the post below from NiceGuy carefully, because I just can't seem to get the same experience! I have not noticed that the place I go to has more than one level. Below in the post you said "We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying "You love Lisa". " Downstairs? Hmmm. Of course, I haven't seen Lisa either, but keep getting Cindy. Who is such a tease letting me touch her everywhere. But doesn't go all the way. Only HJ's seem to be on the menu. Good one, but some days you just need to feel a hot moist tounge. Thank goodness for Oxnard.
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]Thursday night my back was killing me and I decided I really needed a massage. No, I mean it, I wanted a real massage. So I jumped on Craigslist, in the Therapeutic Services section, and found an Asian place in Woodland Hills. Gave them a call to make sure they were open and got the address. When I got there two older, I mean they weren’t in their 20’s, maybe between 30 and 40, but nice looking Chinese women greeted me. I told them about my back and was led to a room upstairs. I paid the girl 40 for half an hour, she asked me to get ready and she left the room. I stripped and lay on the table for a few minutes tell she came back. She put some oil on me and went right to work on my back and I think it was helping my sore muscles a lot. She moved around so she was standing at the end by my head and started long strokes from my shoulders down my back. Soon she was rubbing my ass and inside my thighs with her whole upper body laying on me. She then forced my legs apart and went to work on my dick and hole. After awhile I turned on my side, unbuttoned her pants and slid them down. As she stepped out of her pants I lifted up her shirt and she unhooked her bra. I guided her head to go down on me and got a BBBJ without saying a word. I pulled her up and she kissed me all over my lips, face, neck and chest as she pulled her panties aside and slid me into her. After she got used to the size she really started to rock and roll. She seemed to be really enjoying herself so I just hung on for the ride. It felt like she came a couple of times before I shot my load inside of her and she acted like she enjoyed that even more. After we were done she wanted to cuddle and she got giggly and very playful. She then got up and got a damp cloth and cleaned me up. She got my clothes and helped me get dressed. Don’t you just love that about Asian girls! As I was leaving I asked her about a tip but she spoke almost no English and didn’t understand what I was talking about so I started to leave. But she stopped me and as she looked into my eyes she said something I didn’t understand and made this sign with her hands about the size of a dollar. I said OK and pulled out a 20, she took it and said something else I didn’t understand so I pulled out another 20 and gave it to her and now she was happy and gave me a big hug and a big wet kiss. We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying “You love Lisa”. The other lady was sitting on the couch and got up to introduce herself and as she told me her name was Cindy she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek then they both held my hand and walked me to the door. What an unexpected surprise the whole thing was and only 80 bucks. Not only that the next day my back felt great. Now I know I shouldn’t have done it without protection and I ALWAYS do but what the heck now.
By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?
I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.
Mike[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spank Me]I'm wondering if there is more than one place in WH?[/QUOTE]Is the Pope, Catholic? LOL
I have posted up for a while as there's nothing going on in the Valley and posting details just seems to result in providers disappearing quickly. All that seems to be availale in Vallet amps these days is overpriced HJs.
Anyway, it's probably time to start checking out some CL posts.
Hit the spot you recommended, would have never spotted the place from the street, I will PM YOU the story.
[QUOTE=Webcams]Hit the spot you recommended, would have never spotted the place from the street, I will PM YOU the story.[/QUOTE]
Hey Webcams,
Glad you got Lisa. I've called and called and told she is not working tonight. Except the last time so I headed over only to find that she wasn't there so I left. Oh well, I'll keep trying.
Finally found a Chinese place off the beaten path way in the northwest. Senior members can pm for the actual spot.
Saw mamasan Susan, a bit older, but I've been getting FS from a lot worse up in Oxnard, so the nearby find is nice.
Asked for something special, she said she has her period but got bbbj. Will go back next week after her Aunt Flo's visit is over.
...but all I got there was a handie. Perhaps I should try again.
[QUOTE=Lulu Pussy]...but all I got there was a handie. Perhaps I should try again.[/QUOTE]
I gave up on this place for FS. Only one girl doing it and twice I've called and was lied to about her being there.
Mike
With the long holiday weekend I decided to check out the neighborhood. I found a total of 10 AMP's, all Chinese and in a nutshell this is what I found/got:
1 - Massage School. I did not get a massage here.
3 - Closed for the holiday. Will try to get to them later
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got HJ included no extra $
1 - 30 min 40, Older, Jeans, wanted 60 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Young, Jeans, asked 100 for HJ, Passed
1 - 60 min w/ Table Shower 60, Older, Pants Uniform, No extras offered
1 - 30 min 40, Young, Short Skirt, got Saran BJ for 60
1 - 30 min 45, Young, Short Skirt, got her nude, 69 and Saran JB for 80
I got the promise of FS on future visits at two places but I bet it will be expensive.
If you want more info or if you have any info let me know.
Mike
I've challenged myself for some unknown reason to locate the Lisa in WH. Thought I'd just ask for her when I call. Who? they say. Oh, Lisa. Yes. She Working. hmmm. right. Let's try it. Ok, bypassed my regular for this "Lisa", and got led upstairs. Yay! Things were looking up. She was older, but decent, probably 30's or 40's. She did long strokes down my back and teased my back door, felt nice but not really a massage (yeah, I do want everything!) Then she moved to the side, and really started working and teasing the sensitive areas. OK, I'll go back for that, but I'm on a mission, damit, to find a cowgirl. No such luck this time, just a very experienced and great HJ, she undid her bra so I could feel her up (guess she thought I was taking too long) And yes, I'm still complaining. Saw one other cutie while I was there, seemed younger than C or L. Maybe I get lucky with her next time. One real complaint though, is that they don't make any effort to keep us mongers from seeing each other. If discretion is important to you, I suggest heading to TO for a great HJ.
I have been to the place in WH twice. First time saw Cindy and only got HJ and play with and suck tittes. She is 30's ok looking but all business tiped 20. 2nd time called ahead and found Lisa was working got there and had to get past Cindy tell her you want Lisa or you are leaving. Lisa came and got me ok looking late 30's or early 40's and no english. She will start with the long strokes to your ass but then you need to take the lead take her pants and underware off she will let you no problem and then she even got rid of the bra and you can touch any place you want but if you leave it to her all you will get is a HJ. So I got up off the table and moved her to laying on the table and between her legs and went for it she just let's it happen and after you get in her she starts to like it. Then she will give a good massage. I paid 60 for 1 hour and 40 tip I will be back.
I've mongered for a long time and never had an encounter like this. I called a posting from CL (asian massage) so I could visit after work. They have 2 locations, so i decided to go the location closest to my work.
The girl who answered gave me the address. Thinking I was going to a storefront, I figured I had the wrong location since it was an apartment. I called the number and girl said you have right place; a girl will be down in a minute.
Went into the apartment and was offered a shower which i didnt take. After I got undressed (her too) she asked for the money. A good way to make sure I wasn't a cop. The ad says140, but told offered her 120 and she smiled and seemed surprised it was that much.
Started with bbbj, then covered fs. face 6, body a 9. Here's where it get strange. After we were done and dressed she led me to the living room and had me sit on the couch and watch tv with her. Chinese tv but didn't really matter. I commented that I hadn't eaten lunch yet, so she heated up some chicken and rice, peeled me an orange and gave me a soda.
I was there for over 2 hours of pure GFE. Then all of a sudden she said I'm tired and wanted to take a nap so I had to go. Just a wierd encounter. She gave me her email address and personal number. A must to go back to.
Bro,
Dont F**k that up... She sounds too good to be true!!!
Late, V da Sadist
[QUOTE=ReallyaNiceGuy]Hey Webcams,
Glad you got Lisa. I've called and called and told she is not working tonight. Except the last time so I headed over only to find that she wasn't there so I left. Oh well, I'll keep trying.[/QUOTE]
Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.
Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.
Malosos
You got what they call "the old bait & switch" - I wish I could say I have never been a victim of that, but I can't... ;-)
When a popular girl stops working at an AMP, the MMS will always tell the caller that she is still working there today, just to lure you to come in. You get there, all horny, and guess what? "I'm sorry, she is not available now, she felt sick and went home, the dog ate her homework, etc., etc."
Then she'll offer you whoever available or a "new girl". You are already there, thinking with your little head - you are not going to decline. For MMS, it's mission accomplished.
I consider myself a veteran monger with 17 years of hobbying in the US and a bit abroad. The bait & switch happened to me at my favorite SGV AMP (been there at least 10 times) just 2 weeks ago - it happens all the time in this business.
Called for my ATF and the MMS (who is a working gal, too and I did her 3 - 4 times) tells me, yeah, your ATF is here. I drive doen 45 minutes from the SFV to get there and what does the MMS tells me upon arrival? Oh, she left... Yeah, right.
Offered me a new girl - which was cute but didn't offer DFK - so I banged the older MMS and was in/out in 15 -20 minutes. I was pissed: 1.5 hour of driving for so little fun after being lied to.
But that's part of the business. A week later my ATF was there and I was in heaven again...
You will have ups and downs, but the ups are worth it and keep you smiling...
[QUOTE=Maloso1]Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.
Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.
Malosos[/QUOTE]
First time at this location, girl was a 7 who only offered a hand job, nice nipples and that was about it. AMP is just too cautious.
[QUOTE=FedEx]You got what they call "the old bait & switch" - I wish I could say I have never been a victim of that, but I can't... ;-)
When a popular girl stops working at an AMP, the MMS will always tell the caller that she is still working there today, just to lure you to come in. You get there, all horny, and guess what? "I'm sorry, she is not available now, she felt sick and went home, the dog ate her homework, etc., etc."
Then she'll offer you whoever available or a "new girl". You are already there, thinking with your little head - you are not going to decline. For MMS, it's mission accomplished.
I consider myself a veteran monger with 17 years of hobbying in the US and a bit abroad. The bait & switch happened to me at my favorite SGV AMP (been there at least 10 times) just 2 weeks ago - it happens all the time in this business.
Called for my ATF and the MMS (who is a working gal, too and I did her 3 - 4 times) tells me, yeah, your ATF is here. I drive doen 45 minutes from the SFV to get there and what does the MMS tells me upon arrival? Oh, she left... Yeah, right.
Offered me a new girl - which was cute but didn't offer DFK - so I banged the older MMS and was in/out in 15 -20 minutes. I was pissed: 1.5 hour of driving for so little fun after being lied to.
But that's part of the business. A week later my ATF was there and I was in heaven again...
You will have ups and downs, but the ups are worth it and keep you smiling...[/QUOTE]
You live, you learn...btw cruising down Reseda Blvd. around 2 PM I spotted a BSW & W/LSW pulled over for the W/LSW but she wouldn't come over, must be my good LE looks!
Maloso
[QUOTE=Maloso1]You live, you learn...btw cruising down Reseda Blvd. around 2 PM I spotted a BSW & W/LSW pulled over for the W/LSW but she wouldn't come over, must be my good LE looks!
Maloso[/QUOTE]I am assuming this is between ? ? I would guess Saticoy to Sherman Way maybe? I hate when girls think your either LE or a Pimp, No
ya dumb 8itch, I just wanna pump you!
Howdy all. Went to a amp in wh a few days ago. Older asian lady greeted me. Place is a bit old but she was really nice. Offered a hj after the turn but I declined cause I wanted fs. She was nice about it and just continued the massage. Massage is good but no fs. .40 at door and I tipped her another .40 despite the fact that I didnt' get hj. pm me if you want info.
Cole Slaw
...located on Moorpark Road. :(
I got Lisa last Tuesday evening. I was in the area and decided to stop in and I didn't even call first. The door was open a little and just walked in and there was Lisa.
Same routine as before. Got 30 minutes for 40, FS covered this time but she smelled nice down there and gave her 40 tip. She seemed happy with it.
Mike
[QUOTE=Maloso1]Checked out this place...called ahead of time and asked for Lisa and said she was working, got there was escorted to the room and started with the massage, so-so, flipped over and she oiled up the jimmy and started to stroke to completion, but would not go any further except for some tittie sucking which I manged to get to.
Right before I left I gave her $30 and she asked for $40, I said next time.
Since I'd never been there before I didn't know if it was Lisa and didn't want to pass off as if it had been my first time there so on my way out I asked another girl who my girl was and she said Mimi...wasn't too happy, Oh well she only got $30.
Malosos[/QUOTE]
The one on La Baya is closed too.
Mike
[QUOTE=Friendly Tiger]...located on Moorpark Road. :([/QUOTE]
I went there today. It took several calls but I got in and when I did I was greated by Jenny, 23 years old, from Korea, good English and very nice. She said she was in the US for 3 months and was going to go to school and would be going home in a year.
Got everything and I mean everything for 160.
Mike
Maloso & Webcams,
My brothers are these pro's, teens, students or just regular girls walking for fun $$$?
I am just curious because I do see alot of fly girls on all parts of Reseda. From way south, past victory towards Ventura, and then all the way north towards CSUN between Sherman way up to Plummer. Has anyone banged a sw on the Reseda stroll yet this summer? I have not hooked up here in more than 2 years myself. Thanks boys.
Remember newbies post everything about sw's & nothing about Amp's. This is the way to keep our threads safe. Sw's are transient & LE has trouble stopping them on the random strolls they hit. However, all Amp's are vulnerable to attack because they are not mobile. So dont give the man anymore intel than needed. And always have fun while your mongering!
Laters, V da Sadist
[QUOTE=Webcams]I am assuming this is between ? ? I would guess Saticoy to Sherman Way maybe? I hate when girls think your either LE or a Pimp, No
ya dumb 8itch, I just wanna pump you![/QUOTE]
Yup...that area!
Maloso
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Maloso & Webcams,
My brothers are these pro's, teens, students or just regular girls walking for fun $$$?
I am just curious because I do see alot of fly girls on all parts of Reseda. From way south, past victory towards Ventura, and then all the way north towards CSUN between Sherman way up to Plummer. Has anyone banged a sw on the Reseda stroll yet this summer? I have not hooked up here in more than 2 years myself. Thanks boys.
Remember newbies post everything about sw's & nothing about Amp's. This is the way to keep our threads safe. Sw's are transient & LE has trouble stopping them on the random strolls they hit. However, all Amp's are vulnerable to attack because they are not mobile. So dont give the man anymore intel than needed. And always have fun while your mongering!
Laters, V da Sadist[/QUOTE]
Hooked up last summer with a BSW just across from the post office...don't really hit the Reseda stroll as much as SB, but when I have the action is usually north or east (which ever way you look at it) of Sherman way, the LSW I saw the other day was in the residential part north/east of Saticoy and the BSW by the Pep Boys.
They can be everywhere, just gotta look.
Maloso
Bro,
Thanks. I thought so. I will stay alert. I wish some hot white girls from CSUN would trick for $$$. That would be sweeeeet.
Hey PM me the thin latina off of SB's contact info if ya still got it... She sounds tight!
Peace, V da Sadist
One suspect arrested in brothel crackdown
By Zeke Barlow, [email]zbarlow@VenturaCountyStar.com[/email]
July 20, 2006
Scattered around Thousand Oaks are a handful of businesses that look legit enough.
Stickers on the windows advertise how Visa, MasterCard and Discover are accepted. Doctors, hair designers and restaurateurs hang shingles right next door. The businesses even advertise in the local newspaper.
But what goes on inside these businesses is anything but legal, said Ventura County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Mike De Los Santos.
Three massage parlors in Thousand Oaks and one Camarillo home were searched Wednesday as part of a crackdown on parlors suspected of doubling as brothels.
Though officials are not sure if all the suspected brothels are connected, the roughly 35 "massage technicians" who worked at the various businesses often moved among locations, De Los Santos said.
Though only one arrest was made, others could come, De Los Santos said.
"It's a large operation," he said, standing outside one of the massage parlors on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, just beside a dentist's office. "It shows that if it's here, it's everywhere."
The Sheriff's Department has been getting complaints about the parlors for years and started an investigation six months ago, De Los Santos said. Another parlor in Westlake Village was raided last month.
On Monday, deputies searched the Oriental Health Center at 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite A, and arrested owner Gui Yun Wang, 42, of Camarillo, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame.
Also searched was New Life Acupuncture at 253 Lombard St., Suite B, and HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure at 951 S. Westlake Blvd., Suite 200. Another business that has since moved was searched, as well as Wang's Camarillo home.
The masseurs will be cited if they do not have massage licenses. No clients were arrested over the course of the investigation.
Though no Ventura County sheriff's deputies did any undercover work, an outside agency did do some at the Westlake Village location, De Los Santos said. He declined to say what agency that was. Other information came from "Johns" coming out of the businesses, he said.
In addition to complaints, De Los Santos said, the whereabouts of the parlors were as easy to find as picking up the Ventura County Star. Advertisements in the classified section routinely boast such things as "new girls" and "free table showers." The VC Reporter also advertises such services.
Star Publisher Tim Gallagher said the paper accepts advertisements from businesses with a legal license, but at times, the language of the advertisements has to be toned down. If the business is deemed illegal, the advertisements are pulled, he said.
"If we are battling for the First Amendment, and it's a legal business, we'll accept their ads," Gallagher said.
De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living. More scrutiny will be given to masseurs and business when they apply for licenses, he said.
Though the searches were limited to Thousand Oaks, such places exist all around the county, he said.
At the parlors raided on Monday, the procedure would usually entail a client asking for a massage and paying about $60 for it, De Los Santos said. The client would then initiate something more — sometimes including full intercourse — and give a large tip on top of the massage rate.
This came as little surprise to the business owners around the parlors.
"There was a lot of traffic, a lot more than you'd see for an acupuncturist," said Jay Perry, manager of Johnny P's A Place for Ribs, which is just below HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure. He'd see as many as 20 men, often middle-aged and seemingly middle to upper class, go into the business each day, he said.
De Los Santos said the quality of the parlors depended on their location. Some were small and quaint, others had six rooms and lavish decorations.
"That place," he said, referring to the one in Westlake Village, "looked like a five-star hotel."
[QUOTE=Friendly Tiger]One suspect arrested in brothel crackdown
By Zeke Barlow, [email]zbarlow@VenturaCountyStar.com[/email]
July 20, 2006
Scattered around Thousand Oaks are a handful of businesses that look legit enough.
Stickers on the windows advertise how Visa, MasterCard and Discover are accepted. Doctors, hair designers and restaurateurs hang shingles right next door. The businesses even advertise in the local newspaper.
But what goes on inside these businesses is anything but legal, said Ventura County Sheriff's Department Sgt. Mike De Los Santos.
Three massage parlors in Thousand Oaks and one Camarillo home were searched Wednesday as part of a crackdown on parlors suspected of doubling as brothels.
Though officials are not sure if all the suspected brothels are connected, the roughly 35 "massage technicians" who worked at the various businesses often moved among locations, De Los Santos said.
Though only one arrest was made, others could come, De Los Santos said.
"It's a large operation," he said, standing outside one of the massage parlors on Thousand Oaks Boulevard, just beside a dentist's office. "It shows that if it's here, it's everywhere."
The Sheriff's Department has been getting complaints about the parlors for years and started an investigation six months ago, De Los Santos said. Another parlor in Westlake Village was raided last month.
On Monday, deputies searched the Oriental Health Center at 1459 E. Thousand Oaks Blvd., Suite A, and arrested owner Gui Yun Wang, 42, of Camarillo, on suspicion of conspiracy to commit prostitution and keeping a house of ill fame.
Also searched was New Life Acupuncture at 253 Lombard St., Suite B, and HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure at 951 S. Westlake Blvd., Suite 200. Another business that has since moved was searched, as well as Wang's Camarillo home.
The masseurs will be cited if they do not have massage licenses. No clients were arrested over the course of the investigation.
Though no Ventura County sheriff's deputies did any undercover work, an outside agency did do some at the Westlake Village location, De Los Santos said. He declined to say what agency that was. Other information came from "Johns" coming out of the businesses, he said.
In addition to complaints, De Los Santos said, the whereabouts of the parlors were as easy to find as picking up the Ventura County Star. Advertisements in the classified section routinely boast such things as "new girls" and "free table showers." The VC Reporter also advertises such services.
Star Publisher Tim Gallagher said the paper accepts advertisements from businesses with a legal license, but at times, the language of the advertisements has to be toned down. If the business is deemed illegal, the advertisements are pulled, he said.
"If we are battling for the First Amendment, and it's a legal business, we'll accept their ads," Gallagher said.
De Los Santos said the illegitimate businesses take away from the bona fide masseurs trying to make a living. More scrutiny will be given to masseurs and business when they apply for licenses, he said.
Though the searches were limited to Thousand Oaks, such places exist all around the county, he said.
At the parlors raided on Monday, the procedure would usually entail a client asking for a massage and paying about $60 for it, De Los Santos said. The client would then initiate something more — sometimes including full intercourse — and give a large tip on top of the massage rate.
This came as little surprise to the business owners around the parlors.
"There was a lot of traffic, a lot more than you'd see for an acupuncturist," said Jay Perry, manager of Johnny P's A Place for Ribs, which is just below HWA Rong Acupuncture Acupressure. He'd see as many as 20 men, often middle-aged and seemingly middle to upper class, go into the business each day, he said.
De Los Santos said the quality of the parlors depended on their location. Some were small and quaint, others had six rooms and lavish decorations.
"That place," he said, referring to the one in Westlake Village, "looked like a five-star hotel."[/QUOTE]
When is American going to wise and legalize this. License the girls,screen them weekly with a doctor and tax it. I don't see a crime problem in the counties of Nevada where it is legal. This makes me sad.
Why do people care about what we do inside an Amp? I will never get it...
I dont get pissed off when all these idiots go into BevMo & buy liquor. (Just smoke da Kine people). I know they are going to drive drunk, beat their wives & kids, destroy their health and generally be stupid. Honestly, its not my business unless I see it on the road, in my neighborhood, or in my immediate family. Otherwise, I dont care WTF YOU do to yourself in the privacy of your own home.
Victimless crime laws make me sick to my stomach. As a staunch Libertarian, now in my mid 30's, I am done w/both corrupt political parties. I hope I live long enough to see the day when I can buy a pack of Indica lights at Ralphs, then go get F**cked at the local neighborhood massage parlor legally and then finally go shoot my unregistered machine gun till I cant pull the trigger anymore. Ha, ha, ha!!!
Oh yeah, I got to MOVE TO NEVADA, a free state that still respects my individual right to pursue life, liberty & happiness!
Peace, V da Sadist
What do you expect? You live in the most puritan country in the western world, where a benefit by bikini-clad Hooter Girls is cancelled because it dimmed immoral. So you want legalized prostitution? Drive to TJ... That's the closest-to-the-USA organized prostitution you will ever find, even though that even there it's not legalized, either. They get the LE protection in the "Zona Norte" (North Zone) or as it is also called the "Zona Roja" (Red Zone), but will chase down working girls everywhere outside that area (like on the main drag of Avenida Revolucion, where most uninformed mongers look for fun - I did so, too...).
[QUOTE=Larks Tongue]When is American going to wise and legalize this. License the girls,screen them weekly with a doctor and tax it. I don't see a crime problem in the counties of Nevada where it is legal. This makes me sad.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Why do people care about what we do inside an Amp? I will never get it...[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more, Might I add, Chronic is some serious shit, a few hit's of some orange feathered shit, and it is good Webcams said.
That out of the way, I did want to point out that I could care less if anyone fucks chickens or donkeys in the privacy of there own home, but the religious wackos are overtaking society with there bullshit, if you don't like naked women your a fag! Period. If you belive in imaginary creatures like say unicorns or aliens or God then you need mental help, how can anyone with a straight face say they Don't belive in aliens but they belive in God, Where did the imaginary friend in the sky line get drawn ? Who the fuck cares? Why the fuck are churches Tax Exempt? Why is the catholic church not charged with rackettering or conspiracy on a federal level? why the Fuck does homeland Security not take away the illegal aliens on my block? But they shut down every fuckin amp from here to china? When the fuck did abortion become anyone elses business but the woman who got knocked up? Why is stem cell research getting vetoed? I am taking bet's on when the republican party orders all women to wear burkas! Fuck man people look at what were becoming we are becoming the taliban, please don't buy the Hype about the Taliban, they are not Al-Qaeda, they are religious wacko hard liners just like the FCC and the republican party. They started small and look at what they became. Now I know why people move to Montana, Me shit I like the Pussy way to much to leave the big city. Rant Over
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