Non-Pros, UTR, SBs

[QUOTE=Zauriel;2611330]This one, "P," responded to my ad yesterday. She's a single mom, self-designated small bbw and in bad financial trouble. Emailed a bunch and seemed cool. She said she has never done this before and I believe her. She's no beauty queen so I told her I had a lot of responses to go through (I didn't), and figured she would be good for a cheap beej. She lives farther away than I wanted to drive so I requested that she come over to my place. Meaning, the parking lot of a big, upscale apartment complex where I don't live but is close enough to walk to.

She arrived in her SUV and parked in a spot. I hopped in the passenger side, introduced myself and we chatted for about 15 minutes. I turned the conversation to sex and she has few restrictions in her personal life. Just no COF and no pain, YMMV anal but not off limits. I am entertaining the thought but honestly, I am just not attracted to her in the least. However I assumed that she could give an awesome blow job. I asked if she liked giving head. She said she loves it. I knew it. I asked if she would give ME head. She was a little surprised but not aghast. Her concern was where. So I had her drive to a more secluded parking spot and after surveying the area to give us sufficient comfort, I unzipped my d00d, she leaned over and went to work.

Gentlemen, it was very nice. Slow, wet, soft. Just the right amount of pressure, and she took direction well. When I was close, I asked her if she wanted it and she mumbled "mmmhmmmm" - so with very little encouragement needed, I released into her mouth. She never stopped her motion, but she slowed enough to coax all the jizz out of me, swallowed it, then cleaned me off with her lips. Not a drop on my pants.

Gave her. 5 for gas money (we never talked about donation), we exchanged pleasant farewells and parted company. We were both happy.

Would I have given her a 2nd look if I saw her at the Publix? Nope. Am I desperate to see her again? Nope. But it was an unexpected diversion today. Plus I nutted in a willing stranger's mouth without worrying about pimps or LEO.[/QUOTE]Great Story, with a happy ending!

I thought she looks nice, especially with those talents!

DTL.

Since 4500 of you have asked for her info, I did a little probing during our last meeting (and I don't just mean my pecker in her mouth). I asked her how many other guys she is seeing and she said one. And he wants a relationship but she is wary. I am only the 2nd white guy she has ever been with.

She is NOT a pro and her time is limited. However, when I got home and checked my email, she had responded to a different ad of mine, not realizing who placed it. So, she is definitely open to others, she is just cautious and discriminating due to her UTR status. This is the pic she attached.

[QUOTE=Zauriel;2611330]This one, "P," responded to my ad yesterday. She's a single mom, self-designated small bbw and in bad financial trouble. Emailed a bunch and seemed cool. She said she has never done this before and I believe her. She's no beauty queen so I told her I had a lot of responses to go through (I didn't), and figured she would be good for a cheap beej. She lives farther away than I wanted to drive so I requested that she come over to my place. Meaning, the parking lot of a big, upscale apartment complex where I don't live but is close enough to walk to.

She arrived in her SUV and parked in a spot. I hopped in the passenger side, introduced myself and we chatted for about 15 minutes. I turned the conversation to sex and she has few restrictions in her personal life. Just no COF and no pain, YMMV anal but not off limits. I am entertaining the thought but honestly, I am just not attracted to her in the least. However I assumed that she could give an awesome blow job. I asked if she liked giving head. She said she loves it. I knew it. I asked if she would give ME head. She was a little surprised but not aghast. Her concern was where. So I had her drive to a more secluded parking spot and after surveying the area to give us sufficient comfort, I unzipped my d00d, she leaned over and went to work.

Gentlemen, it was very nice. Slow, wet, soft. Just the right amount of pressure, and she took direction well. When I was close, I asked her if she wanted it and she mumbled "mmmhmmmm" - so with very little encouragement needed, I released into her mouth. She never stopped her motion, but she slowed enough to coax all the jizz out of me, swallowed it, then cleaned me off with her lips. Not a drop on my pants.

Gave her. 5 for gas money (we never talked about donation), we exchanged pleasant farewells and parted company. We were both happy.

Would I have given her a 2nd look if I saw her at the Publix? Nope. Am I desperate to see her again? Nope. But it was an unexpected diversion today. Plus I nutted in a willing stranger's mouth without worrying about pimps or LEO.[/QUOTE]She advertised the other day on CL looking for a SD.

She was older and heavier than I'd want for a SB, but met her yesterday for a car BBBJ.

Delicate touch, but took it deep, and slurped every drop. Worth 40 to me.

Told me she's "freaky" so I believe she'd be into fetishes for those of you who may like that.

Gentlemen,

It seems like most of the UTR or SBs on this forum seem to be discovered on CL. I've registered on SA and have started to receive messages but figured I would exhaust my options on CL first before paying for the background check and monthly membership. Based on some of the earlier posts it looks like some of you are posting as SD and receiving emails from potential UTRs / SBs. Is this the more successful / accepted way to do it? Or is emailing the CL women for men more effective?

I'm actually interested in a twice monthly arrangement with someone capable of FS, CCIM, and a reasonable location; is BP a better source for that target?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm definitely a n00 b to the hobby in the US. This was unbelievably easier in Europe where you can pound a 8 or 9 for 30 to 50 euro (Amsterdam) . . . I kind of miss passing thru Europe when I was in the service.

Thanks,

P.

Sometimes, newbies deliver. I just had a meetup with KaylaG. She's definitely a BBW so if you really dislike that body type it may not be your thing. Normally it is not my thing but it being my first finding a provider in Greenville. I found her on SA (seekingarrangement). And here are the details:

Experience Type: GFE.

Age: 20.

Bodytype: BBW.

Utilized Menu: BBBJ, FS, Biting / Spanking, DFK, Fingering.

Available Menu: Greek.

Unavailable Options: CIM, Facial.

Summary: Relatively easy to coordinate with she wanted to meet as soon as possible. I arranged a relatively cheap hotel ($60), and gave her a time to arrive. She arrived promptly and was super reliable in communication; she gave me what she was wearing and asked me to escort her into the hotel to avoid awkwardness. After a little discussion we broke the ice and gave our backgrounds, neatly avoiding the companies we worked for and our last names. After about 20 minutes of introductions we started with some DFK and foreplay (dry humping, playing with breasts, some biting). After getting worked up I asked for a blowjob and got an INCREDIBLE no hands BBBJ with nut sucking and all. One of the best BJ's I have ever had honestly. This girl is the bees knees for oral. I then finished in her doggy (CFS). Not the out and out best sex I have ever had, there are some logistic issues for doing a big girl that I was unaware of; but that BBBJ was fucking awesome. She did a great job of moaning and may have genuinely enjoyed the sex. I paid her $140 based entirely on what I thought she was worth for one hour. Not sure of the SA market but I thought it was fair.

TLDR: The girl for BBW lovers; for the rest of us a solid GFE experience with an incredible blowjob. Prompt, communicative, and reliable. I will see her anytime I am in the mood for a BJ.

How to contact: Search KaylaG in the Greenville area on SA.

Good hunting gentlemen. This report is also in the general reports thread. It took me about 48 hours to go from no account to FS / BBBJ.

I'm interested in seeing "P" when I'm in town in a couple weeks. If anyone has her contact info please let me know. Thanks.

If you're looking for an immature SB with GPS, a stripper mentality, mechanical sex, then this is your girl.

I'll share details with folks I know and trust.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb453c311/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shelby500;2668840]If you're looking for an immature SB with GPS, a stripper mentality, mechanical sex, then this is your girl.

I'll share details with folks I know and trust.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb453c311/view?search-recently-active[/URL][/QUOTE]She sounds hard to resist, LOL.

Good afternoon all.

Today I joined SA, just out of curiosity. Now I know with the downward spiral that BP has, and the slim pickings on the other review site, and even the sparsely visitors we have with P (3-digit number), is SA the new place to find a quality lady. I'm not looking for a bombshell. Just a regular. I don't mind shelling out $8-10 a month but the quality and reliability is what I'm seeking. I have a set work schedule and set play times. It's seems like my list has been too demanding and unaccomplishable. What are your opinions and experiences with this matter.

I know I have been on this board for a year now. I don't post very often, but have always taken the advice given here to heart. Thanks in advance and stay safe.

[QUOTE=VinnyMason;2711825]Good afternoon all.

Today I joined SA, just out of curiosity. Now I know with the downward spiral that BP has, and the slim pickings on the other review site, and even the sparsely visitors we have with P (3-digit number), is SA the new place to find a quality lady. I'm not looking for a bombshell. Just a regular. I don't mind shelling out $8-10 a month but the quality and reliability is what I'm seeking. I have a set work schedule and set play times. It's seems like my list has been too demanding and unaccomplishable. What are your opinions and experiences with this matter.

I know I have been on this board for a year now. I don't post very often, but have always taken the advice given here to heart. Thanks in advance and stay safe.[/QUOTE]What services are you after and what kind of schedule constraints do have? I've had good luck on SA but I do invest a lot of time chatting and setting up the first date. I've found it rough to find a lady into Greek but if you just want a decent looking woman who enjoys sex, its not a bad site. I've mainly gotten women in their 30's and 49's who have maintained their bodies and are not getting any in their private lives. Actually, some if the best BBBJ with CIM that I've ever had came from milfs on SA. It just takes more set up time up front. The main reason I like SA is the fact that I want a woman who can entertain at her house. Dint like motels and can't use my house. Good luck. Mikey.

I'm seeking sex on a routine. I'm a simple guy. What I did notice on SA was them wanting a public pic. I can't do that due to my work. There are certain days of the week I am able to play so that's what I'm really seeking a reliable schedule of entertainment. I don't like drama so I'm trying to stick to someone over 25. But the pickings are slim these days. I'll look on SA today and try to start chatting. Thanks Mikey.

After one year. Met this genuinely sweet MILF for BBBJCIMNQNS. Totally was into it. Seems to have genuine financial issues. She can see a couple of "generous" gentlemen but says she got too much crap from CL before she met me. Anything but Greek. So I'm willing to share contact info with 2-3 SMs for some other UTR contact info. I could stick to this one but somehow didn't see to be my type to go for an FS though I'd go back for BBBJ. That was one BBBJ that took me back to college days!! More on PM.

[QUOTE=DamienY;2713667]After one year. Met this genuinely sweet MILF for BBBJCIMNQNS. Totally was into it. Seems to have genuine financial issues. She can see a couple of "generous" gentlemen but says she got too much crap from CL before she met me. Anything but Greek. So I'm willing to share contact info with 2-3 SMs for some other UTR contact info. I could stick to this one but somehow didn't see to be my type to go for an FS though I'd go back for BBBJ. That was one BBBJ that took me back to college days!! More on PM.[/QUOTE]I could be wrong but this is the lady that posted on backpage with a younger girl which was her niece. If so they were worked out of a place in Greer.

Be safe and have fun.

[QUOTE=VinnyMason;2712621]I'm seeking sex on a routine. I'm a simple guy. What I did notice on SA was them wanting a public pic. I can't do that due to my work. There are certain days of the week I am able to play so that's what I'm really seeking a reliable schedule of entertainment. I don't like drama so I'm trying to stick to someone over 25. But the pickings are slim these days. I'll look on SA today and try to start chatting. Thanks Mikey.[/QUOTE]What does SA stand for?

[QUOTE=Burn1;2714317]What does SA stand for?[/QUOTE]Sugar daddy website. SeekingArrangement. Dotcom.

[QUOTE=Daniel1;2714112]I could be wrong but this is the lady that posted on backpage with a younger girl which was her niece. If so they were worked out of a place in Greer.

Be safe and have fun.[/QUOTE]She didn't even know of backpage till I told her. Her story was a separation and not alimony. Some health issue (stomach surgery) and disability leave because of that. And lost job. No savings. Trying to provide for teen son. And son called her at the same time. Sounded a story that I could believe.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;2712418]What services are you after and what kind of schedule constraints do have? I've had good luck on SA but I do invest a lot of time chatting and setting up the first date. I've found it rough to find a lady into Greek but if you just want a decent looking woman who enjoys sex, its not a bad site. I've mainly gotten women in their 30's and 49's who have maintained their bodies and are not getting any in their private lives. Actually, some if the best BBBJ with CIM that I've ever had came from milfs on SA. It just takes more set up time up front. The main reason I like SA is the fact that I want a woman who can entertain at her house. Dint like motels and can't use my house. Good luck. Mikey.[/QUOTE]I have to completely agree with mikey here. Once the BP scene began going bad I hopped onto SA too. The membership is fair (hell, we have all spent that kinda money on trash from BP) . Like mikey said, it takes time sometimes a lotof time upfront. It took me 3 weeks to set one up. And then its smooth. If your mongering budget is say $300 per month. With SA you'll need to make it a littl emore. May be $500 . But you get GOOD stuff. Try women aged 35 years and above to avoid drama. Getting a hotel is not too bad actually. I try spartanburg and its pretty cheap like $50 per night. That'd be your outcall fee on BP. My plan is to get 3 from SA and call it quits with BP.

[QUOTE=DamienY;2730790]I have to completely agree with mikey here. Once the BP scene began going bad I hopped onto SA too. The membership is fair (hell, we have all spent that kinda money on trash from BP) . Like mikey said, it takes time sometimes a lotof time upfront. It took me 3 weeks to set one up. And then its smooth. If your mongering budget is say $300 per month. With SA you'll need to make it a littl emore. May be $500 . But you get GOOD stuff. Try women aged 35 years and above to avoid drama. Getting a hotel is not too bad actually. I try spartanburg and its pretty cheap like $50 per night. That'd be your outcall fee on BP. My plan is to get 3 from SA and call it quits with BP.[/QUOTE]I have two SA regulars and have given up on BP. I'll probably change out my SA ladies occasionally, keeping two in play at any given time. I just don't the patience for the BP bullshit artists who claim to be escorts.

[QUOTE=Zauriel;2611330]This one, "P," responded to my ad yesterday. She's a single mom, self-designated small bbw and in bad financial trouble. Emailed a bunch and seemed cool. She said she has never done this before and I believe her. She's no beauty queen so I told her I had a lot of responses to go through (I didn't), and figured she would be good for a cheap beej. She lives farther away than I wanted to drive so I requested that she come over to my place. Meaning, the parking lot of a big, upscale apartment complex where I don't live but is close enough to walk to.

She arrived in her SUV and parked in a spot. I hopped in the passenger side, introduced myself and we chatted for about 15 minutes. I turned the conversation to sex and she has few restrictions in her personal life. Just no COF and no pain, YMMV anal but not off limits. I am entertaining the thought but honestly, I am just not attracted to her in the least. However I assumed that she could give an awesome blow job. I asked if she liked giving head. She said she loves it. I knew it. I asked if she would give ME head. She was a little surprised but not aghast. Her concern was where. So I had her drive to a more secluded parking spot and after surveying the area to give us sufficient comfort, I unzipped my d00d, she leaned over and went to work.

Gentlemen, it was very nice. Slow, wet, soft. Just the right amount of pressure, and she took direction well. When I was close, I asked her if she wanted it and she mumbled "mmmhmmmm" - so with very little encouragement needed, I released into her mouth. She never stopped her motion, but she slowed enough to coax all the jizz out of me, swallowed it, then cleaned me off with her lips. Not a drop on my pants.

Gave her. 5 for gas money (we never talked about donation), we exchanged pleasant farewells and parted company. We were both happy.

Would I have given her a 2nd look if I saw her at the Publix? Nope. Am I desperate to see her again? Nope. But it was an unexpected diversion today. Plus I nutted in a willing stranger's mouth without worrying about pimps or LEO.[/QUOTE]Missed this post. I've been pleasured by P. Zauriel pretty much covers it. Her BJ is really good. Amongst the best I've had because she leaves you completely clea and and ctually enjoys swalowing. 0. 5 was my damage when I saw her too and iv seen her once after for the same job. When I need to get off a load I consider visiting her. Prompt, safe, clean. And I've a thing for not-so-pretty BBW southern MILFs and she fits that bill really well.

[QUOTE=JustMikey;2731422]I have two SA regulars and have given up on BP. I'll probably change out my SA ladies occasionally, keeping two in play at any given time. I just don't the patience for the BP bullshit artists who claim to be escorts.[/QUOTE]Only thing I keep wondering before making that jump is with an SA meet do you have to, I don't know, date? Court? Care if she is satisfied? Part of the hobby allure to me is not having to worry if I please the girl, I don't object to it and I try but in a business transaction I am the customer. Does that get blurred in an SA thing?

Paul.

Just found this category after browsing the other forum for a couple years now. I don't have much opportunity to partake in the hobby due to home life and financials. But I would love to find someone who is up for regular lunch meetings in the Greenville Powdersville area. If any of you guys would be so generous to proved me with a referral via PM I would greatly appreciate it. I am all down for a needy MILF and even BBWs. Don't mind hot ones either LOL!

I am glad to exchange any info that I have in return. Just PM me. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=PaulGripes;2734319]Only thing I keep wondering before making that jump is with an SA meet do you have to, I don't know, date? Court? Care if she is satisfied? Part of the hobby allure to me is not having to worry if I please the girl, I don't object to it and I try but in a business transaction I am the customer. Does that get blurred in an SA thing?

Paul.[/QUOTE]Not as tough as it sounds Paul. I met 3 women thru SA in a month spanning a wide age range (22,35, 45) . One of these (the least expected for me, 45) was my best sex and hers too. The one that I thought that was the most atractive and will be the best sex for me (22) was the worst. Guess what, I found that that girl didn't mind it and she actually said "I enjoyed our time. Been the best hour I've had this month" because there was conversation, a few drinks, it was slow. . I found one distinct difference between SA women and BP though. After they got comfortable with me, the SA women "made love" . And in my few years of hobbying around I've never been able to "make love" with any BP girl. I've only "had sex" . Granted, the effort in getting to know the women from SA is higher and such but I loved what I got out of all 3 women in terms of companionship and sex and I am, at least for now, ready to bid goodbye to BP.

Damages were as much or in fact lower than BP sometimes, and the quality is much better if you can hit it off with someone. The cost of SA membership is pittance in compared to how much I've wasted on some very bad choices from BP. Just wish I'd started this earlier!

[QUOTE=DamienY;2755972]Not as tough as it sounds Paul. I met 3 women thru SA in a month spanning a wide age range (22,35, 45) . One of these (the least expected for me, 45) was my best sex and hers too. The one that I thought that was the most atractive and will be the best sex for me (22) was the worst. Guess what, I found that that girl didn't mind it and she actually said "I enjoyed our time. Been the best hour I've had this month" because there was conversation, a few drinks, it was slow. . I found one distinct difference between SA women and BP though. After they got comfortable with me, the SA women "made love" . And in my few years of hobbying around I've never been able to "make love" with any BP girl. I've only "had sex" . Granted, the effort in getting to know the women from SA is higher and such but I loved what I got out of all 3 women in terms of companionship and sex and I am, at least for now, ready to bid goodbye to BP.

Damages were as much or in fact lower than BP sometimes, and the quality is much better if you can hit it off with someone. The cost of SA membership is pittance in compared to how much I've wasted on some very bad choices from BP. Just wish I'd started this earlier![/QUOTE]I just made an account there, I was a little worried what I'm willing to spend is to low. I only want to drop maybe 400 a month in not including dinner and movies etc. Can you typically find someone in this price range? I set myself as minimal.

[QUOTE=Coonsaa;2757225]I just made an account there, I was a little worried what I'm willing to spend is to low. I only want to drop maybe 400 a month in not including dinner and movies etc. Can you typically find someone in this price range? I set myself as minimal.[/QUOTE]It depends what you are looking at. The older women are happy with 400 . The blue-eyed college girls, no way! I dunno what you are looking for. But take my word for what it is. The older women are much much much much much better than the 20 year olds. I started talking to one girl at first who was 20 and really pretty and had negotiable out there. Then after I exchanged details her drama began. Need money for gas, for phone, for car. Can meet you anytime but I need money bad. With me I am not a guy who can spend for a room 6 times a month (that's 400 right there) and 200 each time I meet someone. Thought that one was the oddball but 2 other younger girls were similar. They were gold diggers. 30+ has worked for me well. 40+ is even better. YMMV as always. Good luck.

I was just an SA newbie as early as last year but here's what I had success with (2 girls regular, 2 pay per play, and three in queue to replace old ones as time goes by).

[B]0. Have some god damn money.[/B] If you don't have an emergency fund of 6 months expenses or don't make 75 k+ a year you need to be getting better at your day job. Don't whine about a freaking $75 monthly fee. Just get better and make more money.

[B]1. Put up a pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes if you want. But a pic will help get you a response.

[B]2. Put up a private pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes here also; but you'll get a ton of requests and it can potentially be a conversation starter. I'd recommend a full body pic as opposed to a profile pic of the chest and higher. Maybe a pic of you in the gym. If you don't have a 6 pack or giant pecs don't be a moron and post a picture without a shirt. Keep your god damn shirt on.

[B]3. Select your search criteria.[/B] IE. If you aren't going to travel more than 50 miles. Filter all those girls out. You don't care about them. Filter on your body type and race criteria if you have particular preferences.

[B]4. Sort by most recently active.[/B]

[B]6. Go down the list and message each girl on the list for every girl that has been on in the past week.[/B] Don't bother with girls who haven't been on in 2 weeks or more.

6. A. Always address the girl by her name. They like that.

6. be. Always mention something you like about the girls look / pictures. Hair and clothes are good place to start. Eyes and figure are good too. Just mention one thing. Don't spill your undying love out to the girl.

6. see. If you thought something was interesting or amusing from her profile put it in the first message.

6. the. Ask her if she would like to discuss an arrangement over coffee or lunch. If you want to go straight for up a meetup that involves a hookup; feel free to do so but your success rate will be much lower.

[B]7. If she responds; ask for her number.[/B] If she responds negatively. Ask for it anyway.

7. A. Some girls will ask for allowance details. Feel free to give them your terms. Don't lowball but don't suggest something you cannot afford.

7. be. Some girls will ask for money straight up. Block her account, messages, and phone number if this happens. She's a scammer and you're trying to get laid, not waste time.

[B]8. Set up your public meeting through text (typically, coffee, lunch, or dinner).[/B] Don't go someplace crazy expensive. No need to spend money here. Someplace you like that is not repugnant to the girl.

[B]8.A. Discuss an arrangement. [/B] Here is what works for me. You pay for the lunch / dinner / coffee (not any more, if she demands payment for date one tell her to take a hike and go to the next one on your list). After all you're a dude and you make money so can pay $12 for her lunch; also you didn't go somewhere expensive because you followed the first part rule 8. I then suggest doing a meet up that involves a hookup. It can be the same day, later in the week, etc. This first time hookup is a [B]pay per play[/B]. That means it is a one time thing to determine if you are going to be regular with the girl. If she asks for a number I typically offer $200 or less (depending on the girl's looks). If you're older or out of shape or something it may cost you more. You can discuss an allowance also but it is always contingent on that first meetup.

[B]8.B. Discuss what you want in a hookup.[/B] BBBJ or CBJ? CIM? Positions? Choking? Biting? BDSM? CFS? Way more is on the table for these types of relationships. If you have to have something you let her know then. If she won't do something she should let you know then.

[B]9. Do the first meet up. Handle your business.[/B] If you like the girl chat it up with her. Since this is not really an escort situation; most girls are all about the MSOG. I got an hour massage, an hour conversation about music, art, and an out of this world BBBJ. I also tore off the girls clothes when I did her with choking and biting. Then she had an oral fixation and blew me for another hour just cause she liked doing it.

[B]10. Either continue with the arrangement with a biweekly (never do a full month upfront) allowance or not if you didn't like your experience. [/B] If you are trying out multiple girls before making a decision on a regular, then stall your next meeting.

[B]11. Meetups always involve a hookup.[/B] A dinner date, movies, etc that does not involve that simply does not count. If you like the girl you can do those things with her but she doesn't get to count those as her prearranged meetups. If they ask for money outside of their allowance; mentor them by telling them to budget better.

YMMV but the experiences are never rushed. The sex is quite good; and the girls are pretty submissive; remember you aren't pleasing the girl. . . She's pleasing you, take charge and be a man. Remember she's not your girlfriend so once you want something new; go find something new.

Another review: [B]Vanessa[/B].

[B]Experience Type:[/B] GFE.

[B]Age:[/B] Mid 20's? Not Specified.

[B]Bodytype:[/B] A Few Extra Pounds.

[B]Utilized Menu:[/B] BBBJ, CFS.

[B]Available Menu:[/B] Not specified.

[B]Unavailable Options:[/B] Anal, CIM.

[B]Summary:[/B] I saw Vanessa's information on SA and shot her a quick message. After immediately swapping phone numbers we decided on a meetup a couple of days later. Rather than do the typical lunch screen she wanted to go straight to drinks followed by the hotel. We met up at a local bar and chatted it up for about 30 minutes and each had a couple of drinks. I think found a clean but cheaper hotel nearby ($60) and she had her friend drop her off at the hotel. After booking the hotel she came up. She needed a few minutes to get ready and supposedly take a shower but she actually proceeded to smoke a cigarette in the bathroom of my non-smoking room. Dumb. I guess she had done this kind of thing before based on the amount of steam she created and how she placed towel under the door; but it was still extremely dumb. Also she smelled of weed; maybe she had just done it before our meetup; however still dumb.

Having already gone this far though I was like, fuck it. She is clearly not a [B]slim[/B] bodytype as she says on her profile. She's definitely "a few extra pounds. " Not gross or anything, but temper your expectations her as she is probably 5'3" 160 or so. Anyway I proceed to grind against her and the remove my clothes while grabbing her tits and ass. She says I am a bit rough; however I thought I just grabbed a forceful handful. After a while I focus on licking her nipples and kissing her. Then proceed to put my junk in her face for a BBBJ (do not think she would have gone for it until I put it out there). She's not a deep throater as she gagged a bit. She does a good job but not as good as any other SA girl I have been with. I then proceed to do her missionary CFS until completion. Overall satisfying but some serious issues with her reported weight and dumb smoking nonsense will probably make me not see her again. Damage was $200.

[B]TLDR:[/B] Not [B]slim[/B]; clearly [B]a few pounds extra[/B] in body type. Also a big time smoker; honestly probably not worth more than $150; she should also definitely host or pay for the hotel due to her smoking habit.

[B]How to contact:[/B] Search [B]Vanessa[/B] in the Greenville area, her profile description includes [B]Adventurous ; Puerto Rican princess ( :[/B].

[QUOTE=PSeries;2789889]I was just an SA newbie as early as last year but here's what I had success with (2 girls regular, 2 pay per play, and three in queue to replace old ones as time goes by).

[B]0. Have some god damn money.[/B] If you don't have an emergency fund of 6 months expenses or don't make 75 k+ a year you need to be getting better at your day job. Don't whine about a freaking $75 monthly fee. Just get better and make more money.

[B]1. Put up a pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes if you want. But a pic will help get you a response.

[B]2. Put up a private pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes here also; but you'll get a ton of requests and it can potentially be a conversation starter. I'd recommend a full body pic as opposed to a profile pic of the chest and higher. Maybe a pic of you in the gym. If you don't have a 6 pack or giant pecs don't be a moron and post a picture without a shirt. Keep your god damn shirt on.

[B]3. Select your search criteria.[/B] IE. If you aren't going to travel more than 50 miles. Filter all those girls out. You don't care about them. Filter on your body type and race criteria if you have particular preferences.

[B]4. Sort by most recently active.[/B]

[B]6. Go down the list and message each girl on the list for every girl that has been on in the past week.[/B] Don't bother with girls who haven't been on in 2 weeks or more.

6. A. Always address the girl by her name. They like that.

6. be. Always mention something you like about the girls look / pictures. Hair and clothes are good place to start. Eyes and figure are good too. Just mention one thing. Don't spill your undying love out to the girl.

6. see. If you thought something was interesting or amusing from her profile put it in the first message.

6. the. Ask her if she would like to discuss an arrangement over coffee or lunch. If you want to go straight for up a meetup that involves a hookup; feel free to do so but your success rate will be much lower.

[B]7. If she responds; ask for her number.[/B] If she responds negatively. Ask for it anyway.

7. A. Some girls will ask for allowance details. Feel free to give them your terms. Don't lowball but don't suggest something you cannot afford.

7. be. Some girls will ask for money straight up. Block her account, messages, and phone number if this happens. She's a scammer and you're trying to get laid, not waste time.

[B]8. Set up your public meeting through text (typically, coffee, lunch, or dinner).[/B] Don't go someplace crazy expensive. No need to spend money here. Someplace you like that is not repugnant to the girl.

[B]8.A. Discuss an arrangement. [/B] Here is what works for me. You pay for the lunch / dinner / coffee (not any more, if she demands payment for date one tell her to take a hike and go to the next one on your list). After all you're a dude and you make money so can pay $12 for her lunch; also you didn't go somewhere expensive because you followed the first part rule 8. I then suggest doing a meet up that involves a hookup. It can be the same day, later in the week, etc. This first time hookup is a [B]pay per play[/B]. That means it is a one time thing to determine if you are going to be regular with the girl. If she asks for a number I typically offer $200 or less (depending on the girl's looks). If you're older or out of shape or something it may cost you more. You can discuss an allowance also but it is always contingent on that first meetup.

[B]8.B. Discuss what you want in a hookup.[/B] BBBJ or CBJ? CIM? Positions? Choking? Biting? BDSM? CFS? Way more is on the table for these types of relationships. If you have to have something you let her know then. If she won't do something she should let you know then.

[B]9. Do the first meet up. Handle your business.[/B] If you like the girl chat it up with her. Since this is not really an escort situation; most girls are all about the MSOG. I got an hour massage, an hour conversation about music, art, and an out of this world BBBJ. I also tore off the girls clothes when I did her with choking and biting. Then she had an oral fixation and blew me for another hour just cause she liked doing it.

[B]10. Either continue with the arrangement with a biweekly (never do a full month upfront) allowance or not if you didn't like your experience. [/B] If you are trying out multiple girls before making a decision on a regular, then stall your next meeting.

[B]11. Meetups always involve a hookup.[/B] A dinner date, movies, etc that does not involve that simply does not count. If you like the girl you can do those things with her but she doesn't get to count those as her prearranged meetups. If they ask for money outside of their allowance; mentor them by telling them to budget better.

YMMV but the experiences are never rushed. The sex is quite good; and the girls are pretty submissive; remember you aren't pleasing the girl. . . She's pleasing you, take charge and be a man. Remember she's not your girlfriend so once you want something new; go find something new.[/QUOTE]I was just dropping by because I'm chatting with a couple Greenville SBs (I'm in Charlotte) but I just wanted to say to any SA newbies, that the advice above is rock solid. Follow it.

Also, once you get the number, Google it and do a Facebook search. Most SB just use their real phone. I like to find their real identity. Why? Just this week I was chatting with one, got the number, and found out she's been arrested for armed robbery twice. Not taking that risk. On to the next.

[QUOTE=PSeries;2789889]I was just an SA newbie as early as last year but here's what I had success with (2 girls regular, 2 pay per play, and three in queue to replace old ones as time goes by).

[B]0. Have some god damn money.[/B] If you don't have an emergency fund of 6 months expenses or don't make 75 k+ a year you need to be getting better at your day job. Don't whine about a freaking $75 monthly fee. Just get better and make more money.

[B]1. Put up a pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes if you want. But a pic will help get you a response.

[B]2. Put up a private pic[/B]; you can censor out your eyes here also; but you'll get a ton of requests and it can potentially be a conversation starter. I'd recommend a full body pic as opposed to a profile pic of the chest and higher. Maybe a pic of you in the gym. If you don't have a 6 pack or giant pecs don't be a moron and post a picture without a shirt. Keep your god damn shirt on.

[B]3. Select your search criteria.[/B] IE. If you aren't going to travel more than 50 miles. Filter all those girls out. You don't care about them. Filter on your body type and race criteria if you have particular preferences.

[B]4. Sort by most recently active.[/B]

[B]6. Go down the list and message each girl on the list for every girl that has been on in the past week.[/B] Don't bother with girls who haven't been on in 2 weeks or more.

6. A. Always address the girl by her name. They like that.

6. be. Always mention something you like about the girls look / pictures. Hair and clothes are good place to start. Eyes and figure are good too. Just mention one thing. Don't spill your undying love out to the girl.

6. see. If you thought something was interesting or amusing from her profile put it in the first message.

6. the. Ask her if she would like to discuss an arrangement over coffee or lunch. If you want to go straight for up a meetup that involves a hookup; feel free to do so but your success rate will be much lower.

[B]7. If she responds; ask for her number.[/B] If she responds negatively. Ask for it anyway.

7. A. Some girls will ask for allowance details. Feel free to give them your terms. Don't lowball but don't suggest something you cannot afford.

7. be. Some girls will ask for money straight up. Block her account, messages, and phone number if this happens. She's a scammer and you're trying to get laid, not waste time.

[B]8. Set up your public meeting through text (typically, coffee, lunch, or dinner).[/B] Don't go someplace crazy expensive. No need to spend money here. Someplace you like that is not repugnant to the girl.

[B]8.A. Discuss an arrangement. [/B] Here is what works for me. You pay for the lunch / dinner / coffee (not any more, if she demands payment for date one tell her to take a hike and go to the next one on your list). After all you're a dude and you make money so can pay $12 for her lunch; also you didn't go somewhere expensive because you followed the first part rule 8. I then suggest doing a meet up that involves a hookup. It can be the same day, later in the week, etc. This first time hookup is a [B]pay per play[/B]. That means it is a one time thing to determine if you are going to be regular with the girl. If she asks for a number I typically offer $200 or less (depending on the girl's looks). If you're older or out of shape or something it may cost you more. You can discuss an allowance also but it is always contingent on that first meetup.

[B]8.B. Discuss what you want in a hookup.[/B] BBBJ or CBJ? CIM? Positions? Choking? Biting? BDSM? CFS? Way more is on the table for these types of relationships. If you have to have something you let her know then. If she won't do something she should let you know then.

[B]9. Do the first meet up. Handle your business.[/B] If you like the girl chat it up with her. Since this is not really an escort situation; most girls are all about the MSOG. I got an hour massage, an hour conversation about music, art, and an out of this world BBBJ. I also tore off the girls clothes when I did her with choking and biting. Then she had an oral fixation and blew me for another hour just cause she liked doing it.

[B]10. Either continue with the arrangement with a biweekly (never do a full month upfront) allowance or not if you didn't like your experience. [/B] If you are trying out multiple girls before making a decision on a regular, then stall your next meeting.

[B]11. Meetups always involve a hookup.[/B] A dinner date, movies, etc that does not involve that simply does not count. If you like the girl you can do those things with her but she doesn't get to count those as her prearranged meetups. If they ask for money outside of their allowance; mentor them by telling them to budget better.

YMMV but the experiences are never rushed. The sex is quite good; and the girls are pretty submissive; remember you aren't pleasing the girl. . . She's pleasing you, take charge and be a man. Remember she's not your girlfriend so once you want something new; go find something new.[/QUOTE]This is some great advise.

Here's one for you with unlimited funds. Definitely high maintenance with GPS.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f5beda35-05f0-43cf-c1a2-99360014eef0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shelby500;2853909]Here's one for you with unlimited funds. Definitely high maintenance with GPS.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f5beda35-05f0-43cf-c1a2-99360014eef0[/URL][/QUOTE]Details? Some girls will put high; doesn't mean they don't have a reasonable 200 pay per play though. They may get offended if you ask. But honestly, who cares, won't know if you don't ask.

I just joined and was looking for a gal or 2 ta welcome me properly.

Another review: [B]Imykel[/B].

Experience Type: [B]GFE[/B].

[B]Age:[/B] 20.

[B]Bodytype:[/B] A Few Extra Pounds.

[B]Utilized Menu:[/B] BBBJ, CFS, DATY, Light Bondage (Choking).

[B]Available Menu:[/B] Light Bondage (Handcuffs), CIM.

[B]Unavailable Options:[/B] Face slapping.

[B]Summary:[/B] Imykel has a very short profile on SA. She's 5'5" and puts her body type as average but she is definitely [B]A few extra pounds[/B]. I did a few messages on SA before getting her phone number. She has very good text game and does an excellent job looking average bodytype in her pictures. However in person she's heavier and layers the makeup on with extreme prejudice.

After setting up a dinner screen we chit chatted about music, activities, and other people we've met on SA. She's only 20 so could not drink and she likes to give you the stare down. I would not consider her going conversational skills or life experience her strongsuit. After becoming comfortable (30 minutes) we headed to a nearby hotel I had prearranged.

She definitely was a little nervous at the beginning but after getting out of her clothes we made out and I fingered her. I then asked her to give me a BJ which she did dutifully if not enthusiastically. She was great at it and I considered just popping in her mouth right there but decided to DATY a bit first. After DATY I then had her blow me again before putting a condom and doing her missionary; then from behind. She's got a great ass, doesn't mind spanking, and a tight pussy. I only lasted a few minutes before popping.

[B]TLDR:[/B] Not average; clearly a few pounds extra in body type. She upsold a bit on her text game, I would say she is worth roughly $200 (she may try to upsell you to $300), she was prompt, clean, and shaved. May see her again if no options available; I prefer thinner more interesting girls though.

[B]How to contact:[/B] Search [B]Imykel [/B]in the Greenville area, her profile description includes [I]"just seeing what is out there. curious."[/I].

Had awesome time. She is gorgeous and new to the area. Actually in the cola area but will come to Greenville. I have had her come to Greenville twice in the past 2 weeks. Search Mia on SA she is 21 brunette. If you don't have a membership to get on site pm me and I will see see if it's ok to pass her info on to you but only senior members that I have dealt with before.

She looks hot! Nice find.

[QUOTE=Badcock;2875963]Had awesome time. She is gorgeous and new to the area. Actually in the cola area but will come to Greenville. I have had her come to Greenville twice in the past 2 weeks. Search Mia on SA she is 21 brunette. If you don't have a membership to get on site pm me and I will see see if it's ok to pass her info on to you but only senior members that I have dealt with before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Badcock;2875963]Had awesome time. She is gorgeous and new to the area. Actually in the cola area but will come to Greenville. I have had her come to Greenville twice in the past 2 weeks. Search Mia on SA she is 21 brunette. If you don't have a membership to get on site pm me and I will see see if it's ok to pass her info on to you but only senior members that I have dealt with before.[/QUOTE]Her rates started at 400 for 3 hours.

I was sniffing around SA for a couple weeks already, I go several messages I couldn't read due to my freebie account.

I decided to give it a shot so lets see how it goes.

I looked for Imykel and Mia without success, they don't come up for some reason. I was able to find KaylaG but she's not my cup of tea.

I've seen several familiar faces on this site. I'm trying to find a true UTR or "negotiable" SB.

Will keep you posted on any catches!

[QUOTE=PSeries;2854071]Details? Some girls will put high; doesn't mean they don't have a reasonable 200 pay per play though. They may get offended if you ask. But honestly, who cares, won't know if you don't ask.[/QUOTE]That's true, I saw a SA profile of a rare BP provider, she's as high but takes 200 for two goals = 1 hr, if you treat her right. By the way she's really good too.

Anyone recognize this lady? Her ad says she's looking for a SD / SB relationship. Insists on immediate meeting at $$ each meet and you must host. Acts more like a pro than a SB to me. With all the busts lately one can't be too careful. Giving a complete unknown your address is a dumb idea unless you know the person is legit.

[QUOTE=Shelby500;2929531]Anyone recognize this lady? Her ad says she's looking for a SD / SB relationship. Insists on immediate meeting at $$ each meet and you must host. Acts more like a pro than a SB to me. With all the busts lately one can't be too careful. Giving a complete unknown your address is a dumb idea unless you know the person is legit.[/QUOTE]She responded to a CL ad I had up, also talked to her on SA. So seems like a UTR / Pro. She is engaged. I've got her actual name, facebook if you want to check her out.

Appreciate the info. She's not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=RedThunder;2929726]She responded to a CL ad I had up, also talked to her on SA. So seems like a UTR / Pro. She is engaged. I've got her actual name, facebook if you want to check her out.[/QUOTE]